1/4 stayed for a degree ( CS ) in Greece and most of us it takes us 6-7+ Years to finish it

Great video, Theveloper. Looking forward to your next upload! I hit the thumbs up button on your content. Keep up the excellent work. Your perspective on the value of a computer science degree is refreshing. How do you think the rise of online coding boot camps is influencing the traditional educational pathways for aspiring software engineers?

A university degree in IT is not primarily designed for the job market in the same way as vocational training, for instance. Instead, the degree is aimed at preparing you for research, where you need a strong foundation in skills like math, physics, and other core theoretical disciplines. This background is essential in research contexts, where a deeper understanding and ability to develop new methodologies or theories is required. For this reason, I wouldn’t agree with your video. It seems you may have misunderstood the purpose of the degree if you think that studying a science is primarily intended to prepare you for a job. Rather, the degree focuses on building a foundation for research and deeper theoretical understanding, not on immediate job readiness.

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You are simply comparing apples to oranges here. If you are interested in applied informatics, which it seems like you are, a CS degree is not the way to go. A CS degree is theoretical in nature in comparison to applied IT, and is there in order to actually understand the abstractions on which technology is built upon. Not how to use and apply modern technology. Go watch a video about how software engineer John Carmack used computer science and academic research to bring innovation to 3D rendering in games using binary space partitioning to understand more of what I am going to share below. Today you can become a game developer without understanding linear algebra to actually rotate a camera in 3 dimensions using quaternions which works in 4 dimensions. Today you have a camera.lookAt(vector3d) to do so, which is an abstraction. It is a bit obvious that you would have had a better time during your studies if you went for an IT degree (with an emphasis on applied informatics), instead of a CS degree. Many times during the video, you are interchangeably talking as if a CS and IT degree are more or less the same, or supposed to prepare you for the same kind of jobs afterwards. A lot of your arguments are rooted in what you were interested in and stems from presented interests of applied informatics, and actually understanding the field of information theory to understand enough of how computers and software works on a high enough level to be able to develop software as an engineer. Not actually using computer science to solve digital problems and innovate/"modernize" technology. A CS degree is for solving the harder problems, also within the realm of software engineering, dealing with the actual optimizations that save money long-term and provide a vehicle (science) to innovate without wasting money. CS is a broader field and taking a CS degree entails just that, understanding a much broader picture than applying IT to solve problems as a software engineer. A lot of software today just simply works and the problems are nowadays rather simple to solve for because computers are fast enough to run non-optimized code without noticeable delay. At scale when bills get much higher, this is not the case, and for example every O(n) task that can be converted to O(1) or O(log n) complexity can end up saving a lot of money. I think it is too bad that a degree was pursued that was perhaps not right for you, your own interests and what you ended doing as a software engineer. It happens, and is often why so many students drops off as well. They didn't actually understand what CS entails, especially the "science" part of the degree; It is broad and is there for you to be able to understand how the underlying technology actually works, and requires you to properly learn how technology actually works to be able to use research within the field to innovate and solve the actual money-saving complex problems at scale. To quote a reply you gave below, "For instance, I've never heard a DevOps or Cloud engineer say, "Yeah, unoriented surface integrals are really useful in my job."", well, of course you haven't, because they are not using the underlying bare technology in 2024. They are using abstractions built by scientists and innovators who actually made the current way of doing cloud computing and infrastructure so easy as it is today. CS is about understanding the technology that functions as the foundation for what we use today in terms of modern technology: It is all built upon abstractions on top of abstractions. When you encounter leaky abstractions, you might be glad you took a CS degree that could help you understand what is actually happening behind all the abstractions that is in use today to make modern technology more available in our current digital age. To give you a (theater) metaphor: Customers often base their needs on what they expect to happen on stage and is what they want to pay for, instead of what actually happens behind the scenes. Abstractions in use today allow you to focus more on what happens on stage compared to what happens behind the scenes in a much larger sense today when compared to just a decade or two back. One day, down the road, I hope you might end making a video where you reflect upon this video where you can explore the possibility that it is actually more important to choose a degree that is right for you and your interests (in the interest of self-motivation to excel and achieve mastery), instead of calling it worthless. One day you might realize how self-contradicting the description of this video is, as it showcases a misunderstanding of how academics and science is tightly linked together to innovate upon how technology is used and made more available for everyone. The main reason I made this comment is due to the disclaimer in the description, as this video is not educational, but simply, a presentation of your own opinions made based upon anecdotal evidence from your own experiences of "breaking into the world of software engineering". In the video description you also present a versus relationship between "university" and "self taught skills". They are in no way mutually exclusive, such as (perhaps not intentionally?) presented. Good luck with your KZbin channel and your journey as a software engineer, may you meet challenges that make you grow and more importantly, have fun solving problems that result in learning more. Perhaps one day, you get to look back and realize, it wasn't "worthless" - just not yet understood in terms of the time spent learning the abstractions that make your life as a software engineer much easier today than it was many years ago. Best regards, from someone who felt the need to present this long text for you or someone else who might stumble upon this video and get the wrong impression of CS degrees. If you like coding and solving logical problems more than math, an IT degree with an emphasis on applied informatics is for you!

It really depends on your location. I had a part time job as a software engineer while studying, for which the degree was not important at all. Now that I got my degree (2 months ago) I started working at a more prestegious place, which does put a lot of emphasis on degrees. Those kinds of companies (at least here in the Netherlands) also offer (way) higher wages. So it can definitly be woth it. I will say that I learned very little during my computer science education. I was already a self taught programmer before, and really not that much new stuff was taught to me (concurrency was really the only topic that felt very new for me). So it depends on the kind of job you want to pursue, at the same time, a degree is not only for your carreer right now, even down the line, if you have some formal education, it will put you ahead of many applicants, even if it is in a completely seperate field. The thing is, lots of students seem to think that once they get their degree, that they have proven themselves to an employer. Getting a degree is really only the first step, now it is time to gain experience. So I really would not say your CS Degree is worthless, but at the same time it is definitly not worth as much as universities want you to believe.

Na you noob. You dont know what you are talking about. Now that the tech industry is not booming anymore more, more people will be looking for a job. And recruiters will choose the most qualified people the one with experience and a degree. Nowadays they wont take you serious if you dont have a degree because of the influx of IT experts. Your brain is stuck in 2014. The competition is high now and it does not look like it gets better with the rise of AI. And you really think people will take you serious when take a stupid online course. wtf. Think again big brain

If you are a self driven individual with a drive to create your own software, I think its worthless. If you are just a dude who wants to be a random mook at a company, I do think a college degree is super valuable to get hired by a 50 year old boomer who doesn't really know much about computer science. Some companies will certainly filter out your resume completely if you mark down that you have no formal educaiton.

I deeply hate people that put yt videos with titles like yours. If you're ambition in life is to being a front-end developer maybe ur right. But Wtf, think about, for example, the amount of linear algebra, statistics, numerical analysis that you find in AI degrees in these years. Certain concept are not easy at all, and having someone that can explain that in an easier way is useful. AI is the best examples, but degree like cybersecurity or data science are not that less.

"I've had some subjects that aren't related to computer science, like math, physics, psychology..." It's called computer science. SCIENCE. Math is absolutely crucial to understand for computer scientists. If you didn't want to learn math or physics you should have just done a bootcamp course... If you just wanted to code you should have gone into software engineering. And as someone who also studied in Poland and had no truble finding a job after my uni, the reality is that the person behind this video probably jst went to a school that's low in the rankings and generally doesn't provide good education. At no good school would they ever force you to take psychology - ever

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I have autism, so I really like the niche aspect of programming, but I really struggle with productivity and meeting deadlines.

As someone who struggle learning. Thank you very much

I actually use chatGPT for accelerated learning, and every line i get from it, i actually understand and adjust it myself in my code. Its like a google on steroids for me, or better, an assistant. I am an experienced programmer, so its easy to say that now. The point is, dont just take the code that works from gpt, copy paste it, and forget about it. Understand the code first, the context its used in, then write it yourself. I know its time consuming, but chatGPT should never write your projects, it should provide you with the code you can use, its up to you how to use it. And if you dont understand the code it provides, then you are not ready as a programmer, you didnt learn the basics or mastered your craft. Go and learn.

You can't use AI to learn programming. But you can use it to do the donkey-work. Garbage in garbage out

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Sometimes, I find myself struggling with when to rely on ChatGPT. Lately, I've been turning to it for solutions whenever I encounter a problem I can't immediately solve on my own. While it's helpful, I sometimes feel more like a prompt engineer than a software developer when I do. It's a blessing and a curse, I suppose.

Great video! ❤️

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Very good explanation for computer science aspirants like myself, hope you will give us good content like this frequently.

One day I feel im really stupid and ill never succeed, the next day I feel like success is at my fingertips. Rinse and repeat

i feel really stupid and that i dont learn fast enogh

me feels sad

fake it until you make it

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you have no idea how much java is used

It actually works 😭

after years of doing code reviews I've learned that the truth behind impostor syndrome is not "you are not dumb" it is "everyone else is also dumb"

I feel that I was lucky to be hired as a developer. I can't really code or understand how to solve problems. I will always rely on others repo's and code to do my job. I'm afraid that my coworkers will think that I'm a dumb guy and don't deserve to be here.

I often couldn't fill the job application because I feel I am not that much enough for the job role.

your story telling style is very good. keep the good work up and motivate us. by the way i'm also a computer science student and feel this video very related.

Thanks for the video. I do agree with small projects and experiment thing. It's so overwhelming seeting enew technology coming out every day. I have lots of things to learn as a frontend developer and it seems that it doesn't get even close. But I think it's relaxing sometimes stop and just explore new tech, for me, it could be backend or mobile app such things I'm purely interested. I've been looking for a job over one year, and I don't even wanna get into a big company, just a job where I can code. I feel a little bit frustrated tbh but I will keep going on. Once again, thanks for making this video. it's motivated me 👍💪

For Me, whenever I have a problem I try my hardest to solve it, but can't and end up using some chatgpt or googling for assistance. After using it, I feel disappointed in myself because I always 'Oh that was the solution, yeah it makes sense so easy'

I doubt that im smart enough or sexy enough

Entonces, ya valimos verg4 los que apenas estamos aprendiendo como caraj0s se centra un div.

thanks for the video , i was depressed seeing ai coding better than me

Cool video bro, how do you edit you videos.

I hope it does!

damn, that was a great video, congratz

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TypeScript, Python, Go, Rust, Swift, Kotlin, C#, C++, Solidity. These programming languages cover a wide range of applications: web development (backend and frontend), mobile, desktop, embedded systems, ML/AI, data analysis, and data science, game development, cybersecurity, networks and systems, automation and scripting, blockchain, AR/VR, DevOps, etc. They have promising futures, and numerous job opportunities are available. You just need to choose a couple of these languages, and you're good to go. Decide which field you want to specialize in, and choose a language accordingly. Also, keep in mind that some languages are more saturated in the market; for instance, TypeScript is in a highly competitive market with millions of programmers, while Go, Rust, and Solidity are less saturated.

I like the wisdom in it. Rust is my favorite programming language because it pocess the fonctionnalities that I need for my projects

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