Uhh, you should sand the ply to remove any release agent they use in manufacturing. Oh and glue an eight inch of squeeze out is good. Excess epoxy adds weight to the build fast.
@pcka12 Жыл бұрын
I am sure that Pientenpol didn't use Epoxy, i know of casien & urea formaldehyde glues being around in the forties, but before then it was hide glue,
@ivobuelens3 жыл бұрын
Cool👍🏻 go on👍🏻😍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@SergLa3 жыл бұрын
Матрица для изгиба полок нервюр мне понравилась. А вот технология обрезки книц на нервюрах не самая лучшая. Я предпочитал сразу вырезать кницы какие нужно по размеру. I liked the matrix for bending the rib shelves. But the technology of trimming the gussets on the ribs is not the best. I preferred to immediately cut out the gussets that needed to be sized.
@jbl70923 жыл бұрын
Nice. I'm probably going to regret this since I don't have any woodworking experience, but I've decided to build a Pietenpol. Thanks for your videos.
@usednapkin2452 жыл бұрын
How’s it going? I’m in the same boat as you, buying the kit soon
@stubryant66733 жыл бұрын
SWEEEETT!!!!!
@rogerwitmer26593 жыл бұрын
Does the front of the wing get installed when the gussets get installed?
@jamesharkness10584 жыл бұрын
Great sounding engine!
@tailwheel15224 жыл бұрын
You are very accurately measuring the wrong glue ratio --- T-88 is 1:1 by volume not weight .
@in2flight4 жыл бұрын
Correct. Read the info in the package or on their website. I don't remember the the exact ratio, but it is NOT 1 to 1 by weight.
@tlcasey10020004 жыл бұрын
PUT THIS WOOD OR CARDBOARD UNDER THE STAPLE TO GIVE SOME SPACE UNDER THE STAPLE TO GET A TOOL UNDER IT.
@kosmicvalkyrie4 жыл бұрын
Hey all, I know this is an old video, but if you're using as a reference, the ratio between hardener and resin is only 1:1 if measured by volume. If you're going by weight as in this video, you have to use a resin/hardener ratio of 100/83 per the T-88 spec. Hope that helps!
@thejetdrvr4 жыл бұрын
Did this plane ever get finished ?
@edwardfoehring88275 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a set of heads !
@guytero88125 жыл бұрын
Succinct and we'll explained. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@msprincegt5 жыл бұрын
Check out this technique for rib making kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqC1ZZaNjaelf9U
@tlcasey10020006 жыл бұрын
WHAT AIRFOIL IS THAT?
@LosDaniellosB6 жыл бұрын
how is this pietenpol doing? flying already? more videos?
@Michael-xo8lw6 жыл бұрын
Excellent series!
@c1ph3rpunk6 жыл бұрын
How did you handle installing the leading and trailing edge pieces?
@brianamato10786 жыл бұрын
titebond III is just the ticket. Not affected by moisture, acids, gasoline. Wood joints always break at the wood instead of the glue joint. So easy to apply and easy cleanup.
@FrenchCrow4 жыл бұрын
TB3 is very strong but not good enough for aircrafts. Typical test for aeronautical grade, water resistance of glues and plywoods: samples are soaked for 10 days or boiled for eight hours. Aircraft glues must also withstand high temperatures, unlike Titebond assemblies that can be detached by heating.
@6h4713 жыл бұрын
No PVA glue is waterproof.
@brianamato10783 жыл бұрын
@@6h471 Titebond III Ultimate Wood Glue is the first one-part, water cleanup wood glue ever offered that is proven waterproof. The waterproof formula passes the ANSI/HPVA Type I water-resistance specification and offers superior bond strength, longer open assembly time and lower application temperature.
@brianamato10786 жыл бұрын
I would like very much to communicate with you about your rib building. Are you available somehow? Thanks, Brian
@LosDaniellosB6 жыл бұрын
where did you ordered that plans from???
@LosDaniellosB6 жыл бұрын
I guess i found the answer to my own question. if anyone else needs it please visit www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/kitspages/pientenpolaircamper.php
@jpelmo804 жыл бұрын
@@LosDaniellosB For anyone else seeing this (2020 or later), Bernard H. Pietenpol's grandson still sells the plans directly along with various supplements: www.pietenpolaircraftcompany.com/shop
@LosDaniellosB4 жыл бұрын
@@jpelmo80 i figured this out myself during two years which passed since I posted my comment. Thanks for quick reply!
@LosDaniellosB4 жыл бұрын
@@jpelmo80 I answered myself two years ago. Good job mate...
@jpelmo804 жыл бұрын
@@LosDaniellosB Yes, you did - but you provided a link to a 3rd party and I linked directly to the Pietenpol Aircraft Company. No good deeds...
@bartgoins17827 жыл бұрын
That engine definitely sounds healthy.
@matthewmoilanen7877 жыл бұрын
I have been reading the comments and see several takes on this process. One thing I would like to bounce off you is what type of glue was used in original production. I'm sure it wasn't epoxy that had to be applied to not miss one millimeter of coverage. I have even seen someone calling for a glue that is "vibration" rated as if there is one. If you choose to go to the lengths that you do too satisfy your heart than so be it. Just a note if your gonna be anal about it you should not deform your gussets with staples as it breaks the fibers in the ply demonstrated by the raising and splitting of the fibers. A simple weight or block and clamps is more than sufficient. Very fastidious, thorough and quality work though. It is your plane and and as long as you are having fun you can rub it anyway you want as they say.
@paulpoulsen83047 жыл бұрын
Is the form that you are clamping to for the top of the rib or the bottom? I noticed that there is another former in the background with a more severe radius on what would be the leading edge, what is that for? Also, if you are soaking 8 spruce strips I presume that 4 will be for the top and 4 for the bottom of the rib? If so, what former do you use if any? Apologies if these are dumb questions. Regards Paul
@xraybravo30447 жыл бұрын
You're a Great Master... thanks.
@kirbylee577 жыл бұрын
I built a fuselage onto a 20 foot long table. I made the frame from 2x4 's and the top from particle board. I was told not to trace the plans onto the table because the plans can shrink, so I just drew them onto the particle board.They said to be sure to put wax paper over the table before gluing the parts together. Particle board is hell for strong, but too heavy for airplanes.
@ChineseSweatShoppe7 жыл бұрын
Why not just form the spar to match the contour of the inner part of the rib, that'll add structural integrity by having one part and no filler.
@AustinChopra7 жыл бұрын
Great video, do you have any more showing the fuselage or any other part of the plane
@mh53eflyguy7 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I am using an idea right from Kenny Crider's Piet's wing jig and I plan to also use circular disks instead of the square ones the plans call for. In this, I'll be omitting the staples (I just don't trust them). I know the plans call fo nails, but Bernard pulled them for the reasons you stated. Nice video! Thanks for posting!
@aldoyosbel17283972638 жыл бұрын
can i use home depot wood to do it. thanks
@fattywithafirearm8 жыл бұрын
I'd love to one day build 1 of these airplanes. it would be so much fun to do and be free in flight.
@richarrrdj8 жыл бұрын
Interest stuff that T88 epoxy. I think its a 100/100 mix by volume and a 100/83 by weight (resin/hardner.) I've never used it (T88) myself. I always make some test pieces in fiberglass or epoxy to eliminate weird stuff going on (expired date catalyst or whatever.) Thanks for posting this. Once when reworking my sailboat hull I mixed up a laminate panel with acetone (polyester) that didn't get hard. Interestingly it could be bent and shaped and later brushed with resin/++hardener to make it hard.
@wkdemers8 жыл бұрын
why not use foam material?
@wkdemers8 жыл бұрын
I'm so HAPPY you didn't put music on this video! :D
@choppergirl8 жыл бұрын
Ok, how are you going to get your wing ribs over your spars, when your spar box frame is already put together? Do you have to take the whole !@#$% wing apart if you break a rib, take all the wires and everything else off, and slide all the ribs off until you get to broke rib, and slide it on ?
@choppergirl8 жыл бұрын
All my wing ribs just fucking disintegrated, from transporting my uncovered wings on a bouncy trailer. At the moment, I hate wing ribs. Indestructible, my ass... ! About as snappable as chopsticks... a 2 year old could break these stupid things. It's going to take me forever to rebuild this wing now. There has got to be a better, faster way to build stronger wing ribs. www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-communities-and-interests/homebuilt-aircraft-and-homebuilt-aircraft-kits/resources-for-while-youre-building/building-articles/wood/making-wood-wing-ribs Aren't you compromising the wood grain integrity by jamming staples in there? Why not use lead weights on top of them until they dry? Also, you don't show the gussets getting trimmed off... what do you use, a bandsaw? And where do the peanuts come into the build process? :-/
@พูขงสีหาจัก8 жыл бұрын
I like your video Do you have an e-mail to contact
@shaunsprogress8 жыл бұрын
Nice, but how heavy/strong is this compared to a plywood rib? Wouldn't the latter be much quicker to make also? Nice work btw!
@brianamato10788 жыл бұрын
any guy who builds guitars, mandolins AND a Piet is OK with me!! See my Piet data plate on ebay. Brian
@Champhangar9 жыл бұрын
Great video, looking forward to getting started building my ribs. The T-88 mix ratio of 50/50 is by volume. The ratio by weight is 100:83. systemthree.com/products/t-88-structural-epoxy-adhesive
@johnaffleck65729 жыл бұрын
If you use TiteBond II for your wood gluing; all of it. there's nothing to mix; no wasted time; and the wood will break every time before the glue line breaks; as has been proved over and over again. In other words; this is a mis-guided attempt to build something to "Aircraft Specs.". Glue is glue; and wood is wood, and when the wood breaks before the glue does; there's not much left to talk about.
@1975lap9 жыл бұрын
+John Affleck How is Tightbond 2 rated for long exposure to vibration?
@1975lap9 жыл бұрын
Exactly. You said in way more words my point I was making. Anecdotal strength tests are nothing you want trust your life with. Heat and cold cycles, fuel and oil exposure, exposure to light and UV, and vibration... all things to consider above and beyond how "strong" a glue is.
@N934839 жыл бұрын
Three wonderful videos.... Really hope to see more!!
@danielmartinez85349 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@KB4QAA9 жыл бұрын
Great to see the little details of building. Nice presentation style, easy to listen to. Thanks.
@Kintarothewolf9 жыл бұрын
im glad i found this channel as myself im building a piet at 17 also im planning a piet flyin at flabob
@ryankirk357710 жыл бұрын
Some good little tips in there that I might use with my Piet build. Keep it up!