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@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 2 ай бұрын
Coming back to this months old video to let you know not only is Mama Ramp still one of my favorite decks to play, I’ve now worked a version of the bounce songs deck here to include Jafar/Second Star to the Right as well as Bruno with some scrying and it’s been a lot of fun as well. Thanks for two fun decks!
@moto3112
@moto3112 3 ай бұрын
Hey there! I started recently and really immediately loved gramma Tala (because she reminded me of what I played when I played MTG) but I was thinking of swapping amethyst for steel, would you happen to have any advise by any chance? I love the synergy with Mama, I was thinking of using steel songs like zeus and grab your sword to control the board, as well as titans for added removal, and pawpsicle/flaversham/beast and Robin for drawing. I know I won't get the card advantage I would with Amethyst but I'm curious to try it out. Thank you in advance if you reply!
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 3 ай бұрын
Sapphire/Steel is a good combo as well. If you want to run Flaversham items, there are a few ramping items that synergize with Tala, like Heart of Tefiti and Fishbone Quill. I think you need to lean heavily on Grab Your Sword and Tinker Bell Giant Fairy for 2-for-1s and as a way to slow down your opponents long enough for you to reach the late game. Let me know how it works for you!
@moto3112
@moto3112 3 ай бұрын
@@LorcanaUniversity What do you think about using the blue tinkerbell to get extra lore when I'm getting rid of items? I was thinking playing pawpsicle and maybe the frying pan to add a bit of control to the board?
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 3 ай бұрын
@@moto3112 I like the idea of using the blue tinker bell in a tala - item list, it makes sense! It would be a good fit for the card which, outside of generating extra ink for Tala, normally comes too late to be valuable. I would probably start with a 2-of and test her out, since you're going to want to figure out the right number of items that can banish themselves to make sure she works consistently. I'd usually shoot for 12+ of any specific "thing" to reliable draw them, so 12+ self-banishing items is a tall order... but flaversham can count as 4 of those (since he can turn any item into a "self-banishing" item), and perhaps some number of Judy Hopps can help out too.
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 3 ай бұрын
I’m sorry I’m the most annoying commenter ever, but just one more: I’ve been able to finally play some games both online and in paper with this deck and I absolutely love it. I ended up just hard swapping the Dr. Facilier for two copies of shift Elsa because I didn’t feel like thinking any more about it and I’ve had some really fun games with it. The last one I played I ended up at 17 ink against Jafar Wheel combo after Mama Odie absolutely popped off WITH a shift Tala on the field for a huge lore burst. Using the extra ink to just spam the hell out of Hades and in my case Elsa just shuts down certain decks and must be similar to what a Ruby/Amethyst player feels in the late game. I think between this and the Emerald/Amber puppies deck I’ve been playing I’m set at locals for a long time now, AND I’m gonna be looking to tweak this deck into set 4 and beyond. Thank you one more time for the build!
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 3 ай бұрын
Not annoying at all! It’s always good to hear that the deck ideas are showing similar results for other players! Best of luck at your locals, and let us know how you do!
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 3 ай бұрын
There’s some slight discrepancies between the card counts in the video and the list in Dreamborn. Is Which one is up to date?
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 3 ай бұрын
The dreamborn list is a little more up to date, as I think I made some minor tweaks after the deck tech was recorded 😅
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 3 ай бұрын
@@LorcanaUniversity No worries, lol. Just building now to see where I can swap in the single Elsa I have without pushing the uninkable count even higher. Also don’t have The Queen’s Castle in paper, so I’m trying out some sillier options there as well. Shift Madam Mim has been hilarious in a couple games, if not optimal.
@joinerytherapy
@joinerytherapy 3 ай бұрын
Your deck list doesn’t match the video fyi, are you doing 3 or 4 Rabbits? I found 4x it calls me works well. Also not 100% sold on big Tala…the ramp might be better served with some maleficent uninvited and a dime or 2 but not sure yet. Thanks for the list!
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, this deck was more of an attempt to build around tala specifically. But it can definitely be improved by foregoing that card in favor for things like big Elsa instead, as that card can dominate the late game very well especially when bounced and replayed.
@coreydill3532
@coreydill3532 3 ай бұрын
How do I get that playmat!?
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 3 ай бұрын
Here’s a link to the Etsy store: www.etsy.com/listing/1602908066/lorcana-heihei-playmat
@berzerk130
@berzerk130 3 ай бұрын
funny enough I just ordered a bunch of pieces to brew something similar. I'm trying to do it without the merlin mim package first, but i've got a feeling I may need to add them in after some testing. Still, amethyst has no shortage of early interaction so I think I can make it work
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 3 ай бұрын
I’m building this for locals! I think I might try to work my one copy of shift Elsa in as another repeatable bomb. Replaying her also seems very backbreaking.
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely! I worked with another player and they switched to using big Elsa’s too saying it really improved the deck! I kept her out to try and win with Tala, but honestly, if prizes/money are on the line… do the best thing to improve your win %!
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 3 ай бұрын
@@LorcanaUniversity well I’m absolutely not taking Tala out, I love her as well and want to use her. It’d be a matter of fitting in one Elsa as well since that’s all I have in paper.
@criscopirate
@criscopirate 3 ай бұрын
How do you think this fares against steel song?
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 3 ай бұрын
That a bit of a harder matchup for the deck because of A Whole New World being able to discard your crafted hand of bounced characters, and their bombs being harder to defeat with challengers like madam Mim Fox. I’d need more games against Steelsong variants to be sure!
@kbell2660
@kbell2660 3 ай бұрын
I had been thinking about something similar to this, but hadn’t yet put it together. I had started with an amber-sapphire deck heavy on songs and items and was going to cut the items and add Gramma in to bonus off Odie. I got clobbered in league with the amber element but def saw the potential. Will give this a try!
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 4 ай бұрын
Ok now that I’ve watched it, I love both but especially the ramp. I’ve been building and playing an Amber amethyst broom songs flute deck, so it’s always nice to see another version of the concept. But that ramp deck is exactly the kind of off meta fun thing I like to bring to locals. And it’s not tremendously expensive! I’m gonna work on building it in paper because I wanted to find a home for Odie and shift Tala so badly.
@joinerytherapy
@joinerytherapy 4 ай бұрын
I’m a mama odie believer. Why do you run ‘It calls me?’ Just a cheap ramp song?
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 4 ай бұрын
Yes! I’m a big advocate for Develop Your Brain as a great way to smooth out weird hands… but I swapped it into It Calls Me just make sure Mama Odie has a critical mass of 14+ songs to make sure she’s ramping all game long.
@joinerytherapy
@joinerytherapy 3 ай бұрын
@@LorcanaUniversity thanks for the reply. I was also toying with the amethyst song legend of the sword in the stone as a substitute for crab and more ramp.
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 4 ай бұрын
I haven’t watched this yet but both of these color combos and titles are already getting me excited.
@drewthompson9310
@drewthompson9310 4 ай бұрын
I love that Mama Odie deck it's so cool!
@joshlane1711
@joshlane1711 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Have you got the deck list for these?
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 4 ай бұрын
Oops! SHould've definitely linked those! Alice Support - dreamborn.ink/decks/NfbX19s7E0BEiG4mpcdh BlueSteel - dreamborn.ink/decks/e1FEEycefbNEwAIDs8nX
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 4 ай бұрын
Love seeing the deck working in paper. Still can’t afford Ursula, so I’ve adapted the list I was using in Rise to now include Fang and I WIll Find My Way to protect an important character in the support chain as well as bring Pete online with a single card if I move him with the song.
@vsgvictorystrikegaming2229
@vsgvictorystrikegaming2229 4 ай бұрын
To bad these packs are so expensive, unfortunately it literally doesn't pay anymore to get into ccg's
@kbell2660
@kbell2660 4 ай бұрын
Nice video, thanks! I fall victim to the lure of the crazy combo. Scored 16 in one turn today and still lost, haha
@AngryBosn
@AngryBosn 4 ай бұрын
Auto Lose to Steel? Ursula is gone to SRF, Smash, ACZ, etc..
@johnblue2270
@johnblue2270 5 ай бұрын
I have played this list some. I’d like to add emerald Floatsam and Jetsam are an interesting budget add from set 3. Only 2 health is rough but if they are both out they both have 5 attack and ward.
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 5 ай бұрын
I tested them as well! But was disappointed when they were banished by Dalmatian puppies 😂. I’m sure they’d be better in certain matchups
@kbell2660
@kbell2660 5 ай бұрын
looks fun! I will def give it a try.
@TGDisciple
@TGDisciple 5 ай бұрын
I really think Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo has been a sleeper card since its creation, I ran an amethyst emerald deck just so I can Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo the goat package
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 5 ай бұрын
I have been working on an amethyst/sapphire ramp deck (build-around big tala), and the value from bouncing and replaying things has been obsessed - naturally it bled into this build lol
@treybartholomew1070
@treybartholomew1070 5 ай бұрын
Excited to see the update 🎉
@coreydill3532
@coreydill3532 5 ай бұрын
The song is from The Three Musketeers
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 5 ай бұрын
Time to go watch that!
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 5 ай бұрын
Time to go watch that!
@dreamwalking
@dreamwalking 5 ай бұрын
​@@LorcanaUniversityYou should. It's a fun, solid film, and the last of the "Mickey Donald and Goofy have an adventure together" genre before Disney shutdown their 2D animation studios. I love the use it makes of classical music, using it as the core of the soundtrack and putting story vocals over it.
@philipmoran4265
@philipmoran4265 4 ай бұрын
I just watched this like a week ago with my son. Surprisingly good.
@dreamwalking
@dreamwalking 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I'm having more trouble than I would have expected wrapping my head around this game, so none of my brews have won a single game on Pixelborn. Thank goodness I got that working instead of spending money on any real cards. But taking this for a spin won me a best of three immediately. I should be able to enjoy running this deck going forward while finding my feet in the meta and mechanics. And it even has my favorite girl, Alice. Which is why I clicked on the thumbnail. Which is why I am now getting into Lorcana in the first place. So thanks.
@Pandaman64
@Pandaman64 6 ай бұрын
Why no pawpsicle/hiram engine? I would imagine the deck needs the draw
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
It would definitely help the deck battle through the late game. I generally don’t include Hiram or item/song centric packages without 10+ of the fuel pieces (items). Since I don’t have many items, I ended up trying this list without Hiram.
@MicaRulz13
@MicaRulz13 6 ай бұрын
Deck im running my record is 28 lore turn 5
@Airdaman1
@Airdaman1 6 ай бұрын
what about green beast? would he support for each time he quests?
@Airdaman1
@Airdaman1 6 ай бұрын
john silver and gaston are great.
@Airdaman1
@Airdaman1 6 ай бұрын
def got something out of this video for this deck.
@Airdaman1
@Airdaman1 6 ай бұрын
Peter Pumping Alice...add cogsworth and or aurora.
@GnomeSangTCG
@GnomeSangTCG 6 ай бұрын
Thoughts on Cogsworth or Aurora package? Thanks for the upload! Been following this deck for some time and I like the updates and additional gameplay.
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
I like the auroras over the cogsworths as i often find myself not questing if I don’t have a chain set up, so ward is more helpful than resist. I don’t use either because of the importance of 4-strength characters to activate those Strength requirements in Pete and Pain. But it will definitely help the deck survive more interaction, at the cost of teasing off a little bit of consistency!
@carbonadam13
@carbonadam13 6 ай бұрын
I’ve been playing amethyst saph and found the queen with draw doesn’t end up having much value in the long run when you can throw in pawps and friends for draw and change queen for a bigger hitter or larger quester
@gamesgonenuts
@gamesgonenuts 6 ай бұрын
this was fun left a like
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the gameplay, and doubly so for the paper version. I’m finalizing my order now for cards to build a version of this deck. Still going back and forth on some of the same cards you mentioned like Tala, Phil and Ratigan. That other version you linked with a Pawp engine is enticing but I still don’t know which version I like better lol.
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
Two alternative packages I've been considering include Cheshire Cat - Always Grinning (2 ink 3/2) and the shiftable Cheshire Cat - From the Shadows (8 ink shiftable 5/6 evasive quest for 2 that can banish damaged characters) or Cruella De Vil - Cruising Around (2 ink 3/2 that can challenge evasives) and Cruella De Vil Perfectly Wretched (5-ink 4/3 shiftable that quests for 2 and gives out -2 Strength). I'm leaning more on the second package to replace the Talas and Robin Hoods as the Big Cheshire is a dead draw unless you can shift it (as this deck curves out at 5 ink and stops inking around there). I'll test the new list on Pixelborn next week.
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 6 ай бұрын
@@LorcanaUniversity Those could be solid as well. I was also thinking about support Basil and the shift basil for more draw and another 3 lore quester who could also sing Let it Go.
@chancekeown9889
@chancekeown9889 6 ай бұрын
Link decks please
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
Here’s the Alice deck list: dreamborn.ink/decks/NfbX19s7E0BEiG4mpcdh I’ll reply with the Sapphire/Amethyst control list when he gets it over to me.
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 6 ай бұрын
Do you have any thoughts about some upgrades/investments in the deck? I’m starting to build your list but I’m wondering about cards like shift Aurora or shift Cogsworth as protection. Maybe even something like Sisu?
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
I was so focused on 4-strength characters that I never considered those other options. But I saw someone with a more expensive list that supposedly was doing well that has things like Hades and pawpsicle/hiram package that looked like a less aggressive but more stable build able hang on the game longer. Here’s a link: dreamborn.ink/decks/5eyj8e2yWwb9fngDc1fb
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 6 ай бұрын
@@LorcanaUniversity I unfortunately cannot or will not let myself afford Hades at the moment, gotta be semi-responsible with the wallet lol. I like your list anyways as it’s more focused on the gameplan and uses non meta/niche cards. I may swap in Sisu for Gaston/Robin for some hopefully repeatable scrying and drawing and see how that goes. I’m not convinced Aurora and Cogs would be all that useful anyways, it may be even more set up on top of already needing to do set up for Alice turns.
@jmsandford
@jmsandford 6 ай бұрын
Question about using the strength 'at the end of the chain' - do you need two Alice's in play to do that?
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
You can always give Alice’s strength to another character and challenge a big opposing character. This makes things like Gramma Tala, Panic, and Duke Weselton something to do of you don’t need them to help reach your strength targets!
@jmsandford
@jmsandford 6 ай бұрын
@@LorcanaUniversity I must be missing it - how do you pass on Alice's strength? She doesn't have support and her card says she gives support to 'other characters'
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
@@jmsandfordYes, you’re right! She will only be supporting if you have Scepter of Arendelle or another Alice in play.
@DuxBellorum13
@DuxBellorum13 6 ай бұрын
Nice game. Agreed that Benja is starting to become a neccessary part of ambersteel
@fallugaloog
@fallugaloog 6 ай бұрын
I just traded for three Alice’s todays at League and this was exactly the deck I was looking to make! Love seeing the commons and uncommons in here getting some love.
@fantasyfactory1564
@fantasyfactory1564 6 ай бұрын
Was at locals today discussing locations and said support will become a bigger payoff with set three to get characters to one shot locations, was thinking this color combo may be the way once Inklands is released
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
Good point, have the flexibility to pivot to knocking out a bigger defenseless location at any time, ask the whole stop generating lore, seems like a good option if locations become popular!
@cheshirecat7058
@cheshirecat7058 6 ай бұрын
cool game happy to discover it
@Cloudfire.
@Cloudfire. 6 ай бұрын
Have you tried Sorcery ? That game is siick 😅
@KalanzoHI
@KalanzoHI 6 ай бұрын
Another banger of a deck. Love your approach to building. I'm still learning the decks and interactions. I find the emphasis on mulligans and learning the nuances in this game is particularly interesting; considering there's not a sideboard or sidedeck kind of game.
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
Yeah it's strange to think about playing Best-Of-3 but not being able to change up anything. At least with the vast majority of cards being inkable - you can main-deck some crazier side-board options and just ink them if they're not relevant to your matchup. The only problem is if you top-deck one of these cards in the late game... it's kind of a dead draw...
@awbreyrucker800
@awbreyrucker800 6 ай бұрын
Great video! The deck looks super fun. I love combo builds like this. I'm getting an error when I click on the decklist? Not sure if that's a problem on my end or not.
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
It looks like Dreamborn might have exceeded their API call limit - I think they did something to query prices and might have angered TCGPlayer :D It seems to be working now!
@djarvish1589
@djarvish1589 6 ай бұрын
I have been playing this deck since the game came out, floodborn helped it alot but hopefully inklands helps make it more competitive
@reigh_leigh
@reigh_leigh 6 ай бұрын
Love it. Thanks for the content!
@cesarreyes263
@cesarreyes263 6 ай бұрын
That’s a very cool deck list
@TGDisciple
@TGDisciple 6 ай бұрын
Been trying to find a good lorcana content creator, I am now convinced that you and steadfast are the best
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks for the kind words! It’s comments like these that keep me working on content!
@dennisvogel5982
@dennisvogel5982 6 ай бұрын
i am currently trying to get ariel to work too (snatched up a playset at the end of chapter one since i think she has big potential). However my take on it is actually using a cogsworth or aurora line to shift into 5 drops that protect ariel from spot removal or damage based removal and sing swords and a whole new world early - then using more traditional items like fishbone quill to ramp with your card advantage. the rest is more or less only cantrip effects. 4 develope your brain, 4 nothing to hide (check your opponents hand for removal) 4 simba 4 let the storm rage on. So the ideal is - shift an aurora - play ariel - then next turn sing a whole new world and combo of - your 7 cards should be cantrips or items most of the time so you just filter and quest. havent got around playing it yet but id like to hear your oppinion and if you tried something similar
@LorcanaUniversity
@LorcanaUniversity 6 ай бұрын
I think it’s a valid strategy! My only concern will be getting the item count right in order to ensure you’re getting enough items to really take advantage of Ariel. I found that with item counts below 20 you sometimes only got 1-2 items in your hand to ready her with. But if you do 4x whole new worlds with singers on board, I think it’ll work really well. You might be able to set a new Highscore on quests in a single turn 😂