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@RobertMustoe 2 ай бұрын
Was this engine known as the merchant navy class 😮 any one know😅
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@josefbuckland 4 ай бұрын
That’s the best looking train cab I have seen I love model railway and trains but most cabs are far from what young boys dream they will be but somehow there really is a beautiful layout to this cab great stuff thanks for sharing.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you always liked class 47 cabs
@pinza55007 7 ай бұрын
Great day out. Enjoyed this video.👍👍👍
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I was a nice day out, and thought I’d capture the signals as they will no doubt go at some stage
@pinza55007 7 ай бұрын
I meant to mention them, but forgot. I was especially interested in the lower quadrant signals. Very nice 😊
@john110v8 8 ай бұрын
Very good video. Excellent camera work. I was lucky enough to get a trip on the Jacobite on August 23.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. It appears last year may have been the last unless WCR actually sort out their CDL on the coaches like all the other tour operators had to do.
@weeardguy 9 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who gets a Fiat Multipla kind of vibe from these locos?
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 4 ай бұрын
I can see where you’re going with that
@cliveharman7762 10 ай бұрын
Be interesting to know where the class 56 was based at considering it was at tonbridge in load haul livery
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 10 ай бұрын
As far as I’m aware it was allocated to Immingham FDBI pool in Spring 97, but that may have changed by this date
@amfwelsh 10 ай бұрын
Just found your channel. You’ve got some awesome stuff uploaded
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. That’s appreciated
@lrvproductions 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see D1501 is doing well :)
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Yep, it’s good to see them working (been nice to give it a bit more on the handle though 😜 but not complaining as it was really appreciated for the opportunity)
@jonhigginson4096 11 ай бұрын
I’d love to see all those EDs in one place. Looks like a busy place Tonbridge. Maybe I should venture to the Deep South sometime.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 11 ай бұрын
They are either here or Eastleigh. About a 15 minute walk to West Yard at Tonbridge from the station
@supertrains156.66 11 ай бұрын
0:12 156456 I remember you on first scotrail livery I mess it so mush
@supertrains156.66 11 ай бұрын
4:41 cadonion sleeper spaces with class 377 gangways and dilner couplers
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 11 ай бұрын
I like the current livery. quite eye catching
@jerryhayes9497 11 ай бұрын
You seemed to have some audio problems, but otherwise it was a good video
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 11 ай бұрын
It was draughty with cab doors and windows open unfortunately that affected a couple of spots of the video, but that was down to the weather. Hopefully it didn’t spoil it too much for you
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 11 ай бұрын
@Jack_Warner got one, and it was on at the time
@Andrewjg_89 11 ай бұрын
I’m saddened that TransPennine Express are no longer going to use the Class 68 Mk5 Nova 3 units. Very sad to hear about it. 😢
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Yes, it was nice having loco hauled. Make the most of Chiltern, as we don’t know how much longer that will last
@train4905 11 ай бұрын
Awsome😊
@traindrivingrailenthusiast 11 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@aellis5575 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Great clips. Such a shame they are stopping them. Does anyone know if you can still see these at York?
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
until December
@ianeccles111 Жыл бұрын
TPE state they are taking them out of service because of staff shortage (not enough drivers), not because of any fault in the units. They claim it takes too long to train drivers on the new units and it compromises the rest of the service and their aim is to reduce cancellations .Next year they plan to cut some services in an effort to reduce cancellations.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
it’s all about reliability of service. ludicrous that cutting services is just a way to make the figures better instead of upping the game
@ianeccles111 Жыл бұрын
You are right but cutting the service is the cheapest and easy option to reduce cancellations. Their WCML service is not the best, some days they clog up Carlisle station with cancelled units.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@ianeccles111 On paper, yes, but the result is a poorer service
@ianeccles111 Жыл бұрын
@@traindrivingrailenthusiast They are not concerned about a poorer service, their mandate is all about providing a workable timetable with fewer cancellations and that means a truncated service for the future untill more drivers become available to expand the service.again.
@alanbanks9474 Жыл бұрын
Wasnt 08830 a southern loco Ian?
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
I believe it was allocated to Ashford and Eastleigh, with the most photos I can find of it covering the pilot job at Westbury
@arthurmatthews9321 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the mk5s is the same as the CAF built units. The yaw damper drop link comes away from the underside of the carriage, due to fatigue cracks . This is a dangerous fault as it’s a vital part of the carriage suspension. There is a repair that can be done using a three quarter inch steel spreader plate and a shorter drop link, but I am not sure it’s a permanent fix. TPE have probably decided to not take the risk until a solution can be found.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
i just wonder if there’ll be a wind down of the loco hauled sets before the final date as it becomes pointless in keeping sets with defects running near the end
@neilcrawford8303 Жыл бұрын
A component of the bid requirement for the current TPE franchise now operating was for locomotive hauled stock, with the plan to utilise redundant class 442 EMUs converted to push pull mode. Much like the old SR 4TC sets. First's included new stock in their bid. It's a shame they didn't go with the 442s. They wouldn't have the problems that the Nova 3s are giving them, what with cracking that's taking some sets out of service and those still in service requiring daily inspections. It would also have saved First on their SWR franchise. If the 442s had been used for First TPE, they wouldn't have been around for First SWR to spend a fortune on refurbishment and starting a retractioning programme just to subsequently stop the project and scrap the 442s. CAF = Cheap And Fragile. Having briefly read how First TPE managed training and staff rostering, they deserved to lose the franchise. I read some services could have five sets of crew on its journey. All it took was a crew member being late or a no show at one of the changing points to cancel or terminate the service short. Not only affecting passengers, but also subsequent services due to the crew, rolling stock and any staff travelling as passengers to their next duty all being in the wrong place.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Yes, complete mismanagement of the 442’s. Cracking units and were even fitted with ETH cabling too. However, we have what we have, and I doubt anyone else will look at what has happened and think, yes let’s get locos and Mk5’s. Shame really
@user-mm5fn5fl9t Жыл бұрын
You need the 221s!
@47606odin Жыл бұрын
Why do I need them?
@user-mm5fn5fl9t Жыл бұрын
@@47606odin They are Diesel. They are fast (125mph) HIGH CAPACITY. Good Horn
@AquaFonic Жыл бұрын
@@user-mm5fn5fl9tthey are SHITE !!!
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
they are awful things, but why do I need them?
@danielsellers8707 Жыл бұрын
Didn't see any 68 / push pull stock when I visited Bamford / Hathersage last week.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
They don’t run that way
@simonsv9449 Жыл бұрын
So you stopped using them on the Southern TransPennine, why?
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with me, it was TPE decision
@MegaVector2011 Жыл бұрын
Complaints from people living near the railway line saying they could hear 68's pass by.....? Well there's a shock.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@MegaVector2011 I know, no excuse unless you’re about 180 years old, the railway was there before you move in lol
@BigPaul62 Жыл бұрын
If you don't want the class 68 sets we'll have them down here for the Chiltern Line please.!!!
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
lol, if it was my choice, I’d let you 🤣
@AJGossTrains Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I thought they already finished using them. I saw on FB, that the 25th of July was the last day when I saw one at Doncaster. I guess not then. I need to go out and get some!!
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
the last day for the southern route to Cleethorpes was 25th July, and concentrate them on the route to Scarborough, but this has subsequently been cancelled from the end of the summer timetable
@cannedham8630 Жыл бұрын
Why are the 68s going from TPE? The upgrade on the route and trains going over to high speed emus?
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
as stated many times, it’s a decision to simplify operations and they haven’t been the most reliable due to cracking issues with the coaches
@Gary31310 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how feasible it is to get down from Glasgow, have a jaunt on these, then return to Glasgow the same day?. If its viable, any suggestions on diagrams/times etc?. Ive read that TPE are always usually rammed, but any quieter periods would be much appreciated. It would be nice to have a journey on such an unusual train before they are axed in December. Also wouldn't mind heading one way on a 185 if thats the best option. Thanks in advance.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Head to York which I assume is regular enough via Edinburgh, and catch one in or out in either direction to Cleethorpes or to Manchester. There is the class 68 on TPE group on Facebook which publishes allocations daily. There are substitutions, so the best way is to look on there and plan what you could get to, and on the day, see if those diagrams are actually 68’s and not a 185
@Gary31310 Жыл бұрын
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Thanks very much for your advice 👍. Definitely keen on having a trip down before December if the nova 3's are still on the go. I just wouldn't want to make a wasted trip if there was only a slim chance as I've had numerous jaunts on a 185 and although they are superb DMU's, I'm not sure I'd go out my way to have a ride on one any time soon (one way perhaps, but not each way) 😂.
@TheosTrainsWalesOfficial Жыл бұрын
I doubt they'll be scrapped, as they're too new. There's rumours going around that TFW may be getting them, so the MK4's can all go to Grand Union.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard that rumour. And why would TFW want them when they keep getting taken out of service? The Mk4’s are definitely more comfortable too
@rthoc71 Жыл бұрын
I would not believe that for starters Mk4 very well liked by Welsh Commuters and class 67 attached to Mk4 coach absolutely no noise penetrating. Issues around Mk5 everyone in uk inc TFW be aware of problems. The other issues 68 burns through fuel certainly doesn't last distance quoted by manufacturers, on fuel range. Grand union is not after Mk4 anymore originally mk4 was choice this was discounted as BI Mode stock is preferable don't forget wires run out at Cardiff train going to Carmarthen needs diesel power, as per their website. As for Stirling to London option via Cumbernauld and West Coast main line, class 91 not allowed on WCML south of Carlisle not passed for the route. Other thing to achieve 125mph tilt is compulsory mk4 don't tilt, whilst images on website might look like Mk4 unlikely mk4 go into service on WCML, remember GU Blackpool to London mk4 amounted to nothing despite getting paths to run. Stock now in service in Wales.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@rthoc71 having travelled on the Mk4 and mk5 on holiday, the Mk4 would get my vote
@TheosTrainsWalesOfficial Жыл бұрын
@@rthoc71 Well, the 91's will most likely be replaced by new Stadler Class 93 tri-mode locos, which will haul the MK4's from London Euston to Stirling and back.
@rthoc71 Жыл бұрын
@@TheosTrainsWalesOfficial I don't think they have got any paths yet from Network rail or ORR. Better waiting till got actual paths run trains before getting rolling stock. As GU specify BI Mode for South Wales highly likely same be ordering for West Coast.
@richardwills-woodward5340 Жыл бұрын
Amazing how new trains have these cracking issues yet older stock didn't seem to have to go as soon as it entered service. Suspension is crap - constant tapping on the underside since getting rid of air cushions.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Class 158’s had body cracking issues when new
@richardwills-woodward5340 Жыл бұрын
Did Mark 1's or 2's? Did the A4 Pacifics? Did the class 47's? Did the class 91's? @@traindrivingrailenthusiast
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
@richardwills-woodward5340 well, you’ve listed locos, so as for locos, the class 68’s don’t have the issue. Mk5’s are closer to a 158 bodyshell, than a mark 1 coach, and southern EPB coaches used to split the skins above the doorways. Saw lots of those cracks. They got welded up, but didn’t stoop the cracks. The issue here is TPE are trying to improve reliability of the service not improve quality of the trains, and I used to own a full size preserved loco, and it had crack repairs in the frames, and it was common for loco frames to crack hence painting the inside of frames red to make them more visible, so cracking isn’t a new thing, it’s been a factor since the days of locomotion. oh and there was the balance beam that broke off a 37 due to a crack on the north wales coast in the late 90’s. that’s why wheelsets get periodic ultrasonic testing to make sure there’s no cracks
@richardwills-woodward5340 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Well it seems comfort doesn't top any train list today. The biggest issue as a passenger are damn bogies used from the UK to Germany and Japan. Instead of an air cushion they are mechanical I believe - you get a constant tapping on the undercarriage and it is very audible and annoying as hell. It makes the trains sound cheap and let's not get started on seats. I have literally gone back to the car for my journeys to North Yorkshire and Manchester twice per month. Very sad indeed that we go backwards. @@traindrivingrailenthusiast
@kermito3659 10 ай бұрын
Apparently the first few MK3 bogies had issues with fatigue, these were overcome with small design changes apparently. The P2's also had fractured joints in the steam pipes. Fatigue is complex and has always been very difficult to design for, it is helpful to know the stress ranges you expect your components to experience and the loading cycles, but these are hard to know at the design stage
@christopherhulse8385 Жыл бұрын
10:30 WMT must have the worst livery.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Worse than the dark green and black on the 350’s?
@Marcsharp82 Жыл бұрын
The people who complained these are too noisy are the first to complain when the trains are cancelled because there isn't anything to replace them.
@leeowen4989 Жыл бұрын
It does make me laugh sometimes at why people are really complaining. I live a stones throw away from Scarborough station and there are trains coming and going that are considerably louder.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the way of the world now
@TB76Returns Жыл бұрын
I only ever have been on these once between Leeds and York....I wanted to get a set from Manchester Piccadilly a few days ago but it was replaced by a 9 car 185 set.....much to my displeasure.....somehow I think Northern Should take over the York-Scarborough services, extended the Blackpool North -York to Scarborough
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
From my understanding Northern is as dire at providing a service, so be careful what you wish for lol
@timlewis8567 Жыл бұрын
@@traindrivingrailenthusiastAlways feel sorry for Northern Rail franchises, who are generally (apart from the odd few sets) have been given the oldest rolling stock and have a hell of a large area to cover with stock that is not suitable.
@AlphaSam74 Жыл бұрын
Why do they have the class 68 at the front?
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
where else would they be when the coaches are that way round?
@AlphaSam74 Жыл бұрын
@@traindrivingrailenthusiast well couldn’t they have a 3 coach nova 3 then another 3 coach nova 3 or can’t they change how many coaches the nova 3s have got
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@AlphaSam74 they are trying to simplify/standardise operations so they aren’t going to keep changing set sizes. The nova 3 are a semi permanent fixed rake of a standard formation
@rthoc71 Жыл бұрын
Depends where set been sometimes it arrives at Rear of train at your location, 68 & Mk5 fixed Formation 5Vehicles Inc Driving Trailer with 68 attached next 1st class irrespective direction, something not nice ambience in 1st Class shattered as u can hear 68 verberating through out coach .
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
The benefit of first class travel is you get to hear the 68. @@rthoc71
@simondimps1002 Жыл бұрын
are thery going to be retuning or they going somewhere eles may tfw might have them
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
the locos are apparently leased from DRS, so apparently they will probably go back there, and the coaches are going into store
@joshgambrell4095 Жыл бұрын
I love these locos and stock. They look so cool and it'll be sad to see them go.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Indeed, unfortunately nothing we can do except enjoy them while we can
@signalpassedatdanger Жыл бұрын
Why even are the 68s going out of service? They're practically brand new!
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
apparently to make things easier, so they will cover with 185’s and the 80x units, and the mk5s have the cracking issues too
@KitsuneKiera Жыл бұрын
68s will be handed back to DRS, and the MK5s will be going into storage presumably if another company wants to take a stab at the push pull fools errand. As for the reason, I've heard that they've been pretty unreliable plus TPE is keeping its 185s so can run them in pairs to replace the 68s that are going. Realistically TPE should've ordered an extra 14 Class 802s and not bothered with the MK5s in the first place.
@rthoc71 Жыл бұрын
@@KitsuneKiera i would expect MK5 end up somewhere else in 1st Groups Companies more likely SWR London Waterloo to Exeter springs to mind replace 158/159 stock as Loco Hauled Class 50 regular on this route people used to locos on this route,
@KitsuneKiera Жыл бұрын
@@rthoc71 I strongly doubt this, really SWR need some new build bi-mode units that can run on 3rd rail to Basingstoke and then on Diesel the rest of the way, or full electrification to Exeter or heck even Salisbury (which lets be honest isn't going to happen). Plus 14 MK5 sets are nowhere near enough to replace 8 Class 158s and 29 Class 159s and you don't have the flexibility to run a 2 coach off peak and up to a 9 coach for busier services, MK5s are fixed as 5 coaches.
@rthoc71 Жыл бұрын
@@KitsuneKiera bi Mode for SWR exists in Tri mode 769 would been perfect, sister company FGW ditched 769 use so why haven't SWR made efforts use 769 have DC & AC & diesel power packs. I think reality uk Government needs get off its ass and electrfi Basingstoke to Salisbury. However 1st could electrify route DC in private partnership funds rather wait non existent DFT actually do something & run diesel power only from Sainsbury 159 will mean change of train or 769 in diesel mode Salisbury to Exeter fixed 4 car sets which can be doubled fit selective doors operation
@pj6641 Жыл бұрын
Isn't there an issue with cracks appearing on the TPE MK5's ? it was something someone told me on a Facebook page don't quote me on this
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
yes, apparently there is
@rthoc71 Жыл бұрын
Yes Definetly correct some sets out of action several weeks ROG Driver took one month or so from York maximum 45MPH to Crewe i believe
@not-now-silentsinger Жыл бұрын
When are they going, do you know?
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
In December when the winter timetable comes in apparently
@icextransport8490 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what's gonna replace the 68s or is it just going to be the 185s before the Nova 3s entered service
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
as far as I’m aware, it’ll be existing stock
@icextransport8490 Жыл бұрын
@traindrivingrailenthusiast so probably 185s and maybe Nova 1s aswell, what's happening to the mark 5A carriages
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
My understanding they are going into store. @@icextransport8490
@ChilternTransportProductions Жыл бұрын
@@traindrivingrailenthusiast But they’re practically brand new!!! Why are they already leaving? It’s really weird to think that Chiltern Railways will have used their 68s with significantly older MK3s longer TPEs used theirs with MK5s from new!
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@ChilternTransportProductions yes, but there’s a cracking issue still on the Mk5’s which keep having to come out of service for checking apparently, so the class 68’s can’t do anything so to improve reliability they are going, but according to rumours the Chiltern 68’s will be going too at some stage soon
@brucejohnston8510 Жыл бұрын
Nice one. Thanks for the train ride fantastic cheers from Bruce.blenheim south island new Zealand
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed it
@MatthewRailways50033 Жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍👍😀😎. I've subscribed to your KZbin channel 😎
@47606odin Жыл бұрын
Great! Thank you
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Oops, I replied from my other channel, but yes, great, thank you 😁
@Class777 Жыл бұрын
I have just discovered your channel and I'm loving how it's set out and the suspense of that connection!
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! I’m glad you enjoyed it. it was a good day out in the end, although I’ve not gone back for Chiltern 68’s since….yet
@Mike-kc8rl Жыл бұрын
Living on the Chiltern line, I was glad to see the back of the class 67 sets! These were so slow off the blocks it was almost painful?? Mind you, I live near the line side and wasn't prepared for the noise onslaught of the 68s ? The 68 is much quicker on the timings over the said 67s, though! I guess a more modern design with more bhp shows through!
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
I guess not being geared for 125mph helps the 68’s off the mark, but yes, they are loud, and I think that’s part of the appeal of them
@Mike-kc8rl Жыл бұрын
@traindrivingrailenthusiast I live near a cutting, and with the 68s, you can hear them miles away, but their is a strong rumour that Chiltern Rail is to discontinue with the six sets and are taking on DMU replacements which would be one more nail in the loco haulage on train travel??
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
I heard that rumour too, allegedly due to noise complaints from those living around Marylebone. Maybe the sets will cascade onto TFW for their Cardiff Manchester corridor services to bolster their MK4 sets, who knows. There has been a bit of a resurgence in loco hauled so maybe, they’ll find other use. @@Mike-kc8rl
@ChilternTransportProductions Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-kc8rl They’ve always wanted DMU only operation
@dislecsyk991 Жыл бұрын
People that work for and run Chiltern love the Mk3 sets. If the 68s are phased out, it's more likely to be a DfT decision than a Chiltern management one.
@Clivestravelandtrains Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if changing at Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury might have avoided the stress of a 3-minute non-connection at Crewe!
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
to be honest, I hadn’t even thought of that move, as I was still thinking class 68’s at the time as I was working things out on the hoof
@Andrewjg_89 Жыл бұрын
Very nice.ScotRail does have the best trains in Scotland. Including the Class 43 HST “Inter7City”.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
all that is needed though is buffets open on the inter7city sets as it was a bit rubbish to be fair. at least first class got a complimentary biscuit and can of still water, but as a premiere service, it was a bit lacking (apparently still quoting covid as a reason there is no trolley service)
@danguinan7238 Жыл бұрын
I’ve spent a few years working on steam now and I can honestly say the most important part is not what loco you are on or what job you’re booked to work… its working with your mates! Great video
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
absolutely. if you can have fun with your workmates, it helps
@Del-bm Жыл бұрын
Classic
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
not the best catch, but I like it
@Del-bm Жыл бұрын
Love this video, so I’ve just subscribed
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Welcome!! I hope you stay and enjoy the future videos too
@Gus0898uk Жыл бұрын
I guess the MAN-EUS divert was because of the Colwich Jct works, nice trip. Especially in First class.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
yes, I think that’s why the diversion, but once we were behind the late freight, that was it. no chance to make up
@percismehta8959 Жыл бұрын
I hv just seen Pakistan Rail Fanning. Beautiful country lovely PPL.
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
not been there myself
@geofer023 Жыл бұрын
Great rideing video❤❤👌👌 👍👍1️⃣4️⃣👍👍
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
@mahmoodQureshikohatiPakistan Жыл бұрын
188good 🎉🎉
@traindrivingrailenthusiast Жыл бұрын
thanks