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@guillaumelafleche9477
@guillaumelafleche9477 23 сағат бұрын
I enjoyed this presentation, gave me lots of ideas on how to improve my hive designs. Thanks for the inspiration.
@Jay-cy7wp
@Jay-cy7wp Күн бұрын
As a suburban sodbuster myself and a descendant of Nebraska farmers (outside Inavale), your story resonates deeply with me. Thank you for sharing!
@imysteryman
@imysteryman Күн бұрын
I use the same ratchet straps, first I cut off the hooks then I sew the strap back to the ratchet. It makes them much easier to use not having to fumble with hooks especially when I strap the box to a tree someone does not want me putting screw into. I also took a stick of 3/4 electrical conduit and put a short piece of 2x6 on the top end by drilling a hole in the 2x6. It gives me something to set the box on while the straps are installed.
@animalinstinctz
@animalinstinctz 2 күн бұрын
Newbie bee keeper here. Like week 1!😆Ive watched most of your videos. I’m so impressed with what you’re doing. You’re so honest and that can be tough sometimes. Please don’t stop , you are such a great mentor!! And you’re doing exactly what I want to be doing. Same way as Dr Leo. I’m Iway up here in Canada . British Columbia. Thank you thank you!!
@jonathandangers5009
@jonathandangers5009 3 күн бұрын
Our 20 frame layen's hives are completely out of room and bursting at the seams with bees. We made a split in April from one and accidentally let another one swarm and they still ended up jam-packed. Any ideas on how to prevent this? Or know of an easy way to convert langstroth equipment to super a Layen's? My wife and I are not fantastic at wood-working.
@rickabrams3422
@rickabrams3422 3 күн бұрын
hi, new to your channel. do you see any disadvantage of making a layens style hive but modified to accommodate langstroth frames? i'm only 5yrs into bees teaching me and layens makes sense. unfortunately it's all langstroth for me.
@SimboJr-ym5nt
@SimboJr-ym5nt 5 күн бұрын
I've been loving your videos and I definitely subscribed! (from comparing Layens/Langtroths hives to how to build frames). You've helped me decide to go with a Layens and build it myself in my shop. Question: would you recommend a 20 frame hive or more frames if I have the space in my backyard? How many colonies do you keep in your 30 frame Taj Mahel at any given time? I'm debating going with a 30 frame hive as well to give me more flexibility in the future but I'm wondering if it's overkill. Hoping that you have some opinions based on your Taj Mahal hive experience. Maybe better to go with 2 hive boxes amounting to 30 frames instead? Thank you! And keep up the great work!
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 4 күн бұрын
My preference is for a 20 frame hive - in my experience it's big enough to accommodate most colonies through a season. I've had a couple that filled the hive but many that didn't need all of the space. Also, 20 frame hives aren't too big to move, if needed. Areas with a very strong nectar flow might justify a larger hive, maybe 25 frames - but this can also be managed by replacing full honey frames when space is needed. My "Taj Mahive" is 30 frames and usually holds two colonies, but sometimes space gets tight. It's also too large to move, as a matter of practicality.
@SimboJr-ym5nt
@SimboJr-ym5nt 3 күн бұрын
@@SuburbanSodbuster Thank you for these pointers! Will go with a 20 frame hive then. Really appreciate it.
@falkinable
@falkinable 5 күн бұрын
So true.. I've gotten into hobbies now I wouldn't have before with this mindset. May not have what i ideally want, but I can do a lot with what I have.
@revann
@revann 5 күн бұрын
I started with Dadant frames, not sure if popular in US. I can't imagine trying to transport a hive like that without using a crane :D I would love to have horizontal hives due to ease of use but I transport my hives twice a year and can't imagine anything else that styrofoam vertical ones.
@stephenjung6582
@stephenjung6582 6 күн бұрын
I didn’t treat my initial hive and it made it very strong through the winter. I currently have two hives going strong. Neither has been treated. I am planting and putting mint, oregano and thyme around my hives to repel mites. I will likely use a powered sugar dusting in both hives this fall.
@Jos-scifiwriter
@Jos-scifiwriter 6 күн бұрын
Thanks that was interesting 👍 ive never seen this before 👋👍
@KevinBaughen
@KevinBaughen 8 күн бұрын
Good luck to you sir 🙂
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 4 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@whtcutter
@whtcutter 9 күн бұрын
Wrap and cover my hives. Also add an electric heater at the back side to kick on when it gets really cold.
@whtcutter
@whtcutter 9 күн бұрын
Didn't lose any over winter BTW
@paulajones4999
@paulajones4999 10 күн бұрын
A lot of people reinforce the joints with wood and spend a bit more on wood to get better durability. Especially across the joints on the top.
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 4 күн бұрын
The company posts pictures of reinforcements that other customers have done; I made the mistake of assuming that my backyard was sheltered enough that the reinforcement wouldn't be necessary.
@pauljones8463
@pauljones8463 11 күн бұрын
Hallelujah! Its time some closed minded people woke up and took notice. There is a big difference between Thriving and Surviving. I started insulating my hives from the start. and lost count of the amount of abuse from so called Bee keepers. Telling me that I was doing it all wrong and it would end in disaster and "They will end up with Nosema" Usually recomending I keep them in standard British National hives. Which in my opinion are too small, the wrong shape, uninsulated torture boxes which people keep using because 'thats how its always been done'! Well I havent lost a colony since I started 5 years ago. just increased each year from 1 to 7 hives. So what am I doing wrong?! No species want to become extinct. Provide the habitat its taken millions of years to evolve to live in. (In this case a good solid insulated hive) and it doesnt need any more help, Or hinderance from us. My hives are either Layens or 14 x12 national frames. The It is a lot more work To build them but well worth the effort. Iin the autumn the supers are removed and replaced with insulated supers containing pillow cases stuffed with wood shavings covered by the insulated roof. Once a month I check and if the shavings are very damp. (sometimes they are sometimes not) I replace the damp area. I never disturb the Bees underneath, they have plenty of honey on the brood frames.I only ever take honey from the supers. Love the Videos Cheers
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comments. "The way it's always been done" can be a terrible trap, as can be assuming that we have all the answers. I hope that I don't fall into either.
@Jos-scifiwriter
@Jos-scifiwriter 13 күн бұрын
Very interesting 👍🥰 tremendous stuff, thanks from central Otago southern New Zealand 👋🥝
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 4 күн бұрын
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
@brjplummer9415
@brjplummer9415 14 күн бұрын
Hi an interesting Video on a controversial subject. Have you seen videos about using powdered sugar to encourage the bees to remove the mites as part of their grooming ? Icing sugar can work but it has drying agents added. If you grind sugar into a powder and cover the bees with it it helps get the mites off. You can simply pour the powder onto the top of the frames and get it to fall down between the gap between frames. Otherwise you can take out one frame at a tome and blow the powder over the bees on the fram and then put it back, doing all frames one by one. The sugar does not harm the bees, the mites the mites do not become resistant because it is not a chemical treatment. you do need to have a grill at the bottom of the hive for the mites to fall through and a sticky board underneath to trap the mites. The bees will eat the sugar so win win. there are videos out their showing this.Probably too much work for the commercial beekeper but not to much for the back yard keper. Another method is the use of heat. Taking advantage of the maximumum heat the varroa can stand is less than the bee can stand. The hive is heated and held at a maximum temperature for about an hour then brought back down to normal. Varroa die the bees will be put under some strain but they survive. Hope this helps
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment and question. My perspective is that the only sustainable mite control is to keep and propogate bees able to manage bees on their own. Beyond that I avoid any artificial interventions. Researchers working with Tom Seeley have done mite counts on honeybees living in the wild - populations which have recovered since originally being decimated by mites. Those colonies tested all had mites - sometimes with counts higher than would be considered "acceptable". Besides that, the colonies were otherwise thriving. Through natural selection, bees without intervention have developed resistance and/or tolerance to mites. If we keep bees with these traits then our actions to remove the mites are, at best, unnecessary and, by putting unnatural stress on the bees, could be detrimental.
@liquidrockaquatics3900
@liquidrockaquatics3900 14 күн бұрын
Do you find that hive color matters at all in respect to winter survival (for absorbing sun) and do you recommend treated ply for the exterior sheeting on the hive, or just paint untreated?
@liquidrockaquatics3900
@liquidrockaquatics3900 14 күн бұрын
Do you find that hive color matters at all in respect to winter survival (for absorbing sun) and do you recommend treated ply for the exterior sheeting on the hive, or just paint untreated?
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 6 күн бұрын
I generally recommend light colors for hives so as not to absorb much heat from the sun. With the insulated hives the color is probably less important. Over winter the bees will generate their own heat; if we can help them retain that there's no need to add external heat. As for the exterior, I use untreated sheathing grade plywood and paint with an exterior paint.
@raincoast9010
@raincoast9010 17 күн бұрын
What a fine puzzle you have built there!
@Dasher523
@Dasher523 17 күн бұрын
I usually blow on them with my own breath as I move the frame closer horizontally. Bees don’t like human breath and move lower on the frame allows me to close it completely.
@danielholtxxl4936
@danielholtxxl4936 18 күн бұрын
You almost had me converted until you mentioned the extractor issue. Darn it, anyway! I’m four years into beekeeping and last year sunk about $1,200 into a Maxant motorized extractor. Sucks to be me because I would convert to Layens.
@JohnBarnes-jt9yi
@JohnBarnes-jt9yi 19 күн бұрын
So styrofoam around and maybe heat tape around the hive it is! 😵‍💫
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 18 күн бұрын
I would advocate for the insulation but not anything that adds heat to the hive. The bees will produce the heat; by insulating we can help them retain it. Adding heat could cause the bees to react in unseasonable ways - e.g. act as if the weather is warming and start building up brood early which will increase resource usage prematurely.
@raincoast9010
@raincoast9010 19 күн бұрын
Wow, they've really closed that entrance down.
@raincoast9010
@raincoast9010 20 күн бұрын
Lost queen, i guess that's a risk...?
@DavidKissinger-cm3lh
@DavidKissinger-cm3lh 20 күн бұрын
good video, learned stuff, thanx.
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 18 күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad this was useful.
@raincoast9010
@raincoast9010 20 күн бұрын
Some very interesting comments.
@penandpike
@penandpike 21 күн бұрын
With the third variant you can smash the bees that are inside between the the sides of the frames when they get closer and eventually touch each other. The second variant is the best IMO
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 18 күн бұрын
That's a possibility I've recognized but haven't seen it to be much of a problem in practice. At least the approach minimizes the surface area between which the bees can be trapped. I generally use a mix of approaches and actually do prefer to slide the frames in vertically, but sometimes the bees crowd in and make it impractical.
@videogenie1236
@videogenie1236 21 күн бұрын
COMMENT I like that there is versatility in the build of your hive. As it's built with interlocking boxes, it makes it easier to carry to its location as opposed to one big heavy box, which would take two people carry.
@yaddahaysmarmalite4059
@yaddahaysmarmalite4059 23 күн бұрын
I recommend doing away with the wires in the frames. Instead put a dowel in the middle of the frame to support the weight of the top half of the comb the bees will build. Then an angled piece of wood in the top of the frame to guide the bees to build down the middle. the wax won't sag so much when it gets hot in summer like it does on the wires. Also when I go to harvest the honey, I can just cut the comb out of the frame- big cut comb! Then the bees will build all new fresh comb. A dowel in the middle is just all round better than wires, imo.
@raincoast9010
@raincoast9010 20 күн бұрын
I was wondering about that...
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 18 күн бұрын
To each their own. I prefer to use an extractor and return newer comb to the bees to re-use. I've started using cross-wired frames to provide better comb support and have also found that it often results in more even comb than straight wires.
@raincoast9010
@raincoast9010 18 күн бұрын
@@SuburbanSodbuster Maybe a video about the different frame options, horizontal or vertical wired, or wood starter strips or wax or plastic foundation starter or dowels would be a good idea if you are up for it?
@raincoast9010
@raincoast9010 18 күн бұрын
@@SuburbanSodbuster I was thinking. maybe the ultimate frame would have a horizontal 1/4 oak dowel to stop the horizontal wires from pulling the sides in? What thinks you?...
@KevinFogo
@KevinFogo 23 күн бұрын
I see you wired a couple frames with a cross-wire pattern. Do you think this gives a benefit in Layens frames over the traditional inline method?
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 23 күн бұрын
I started wiring frames with a cross-wire pattern in hopes that it would provide better support and prevent comb collapse in the heat. I haven't had enough opportunity to really test that, yet, but I have found that the bees tend to build better comb on the cross-wire. With vertical wires bees will sometimes build long sections of narrow comb between the wires, but they can't avoid the angled and crossed wires so seem to build across the wire better.
@drustanastrophel9538
@drustanastrophel9538 24 күн бұрын
Is this better or worse than having a laying worker in terms of ability to save the hive through the correct interventions
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 24 күн бұрын
An intercaste queen is easier to correct than laying workers, as the queen can be removed and replaced in the same manner as any requeening operation. A laying worker hive is more difficult to correct as there can be multiple laying workers and they all must be shaken out of the hive in order for the colony to accept a new queen.
@wheezer-the-weezer
@wheezer-the-weezer 24 күн бұрын
It's sweet that they still tend to her anyway. i feel a little inspired now, since even some bees with a disability/dysfunction can still do something to progress in life, so that means i can too.
@sharonbroward2452
@sharonbroward2452 24 күн бұрын
I caught one so far with LGO
@markic6224
@markic6224 26 күн бұрын
Is this a 10 frame deep or 8 frame deep?
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 26 күн бұрын
10 frame
@markic6224
@markic6224 26 күн бұрын
@SuburbanSodbuster thank you. My brother runs 10 frames, and I think with my pulled layens frames, I can easily convert him using this setup. Find the queen, put her in the bottom with the layens frames with a Queen excluder between the layens on the bottom and the old brood frames up top. Everyone will eventually move down. It's easier to deal with, in my opinion, than building a bunch of jigs and spacers for a layens hive. I appreciate your reply.
@darlenebradley6756
@darlenebradley6756 27 күн бұрын
I entered the fascinating world of apiculture approximatley 5 years ago. As a registered nurse, I was well acquainted with the concept of resistance, as seen in the alarming situation of microbial resistance to antibiotics. As a gardener, the same situation can be seen in the development of resistance to control methods of a variety of plant pests and diseases. As I began to learn more about the life cycle of the Varoa mite, I logically concluded, "Are we, with our various interventions, creating stronger mites and weaker bees?" I posed this question to our state apiarist at a local bee association, where she had been invited to speak to the subject of mite control. You would have thought I just turned into one of those murder hornets from Asia at the response to my question! I simply wanted to know what, if anything, the state was doing to investigate this egregious situation, besides alternating the chemical agents over and over. I use very minimal interventions with my bees. As you stated in this video, I have suffered some significant losses, but I can say I see progress with my own bees. A hive I rather left to benign neglect last season was the strongest and healthiest I have ever seen! I hope more folks get on board with this 'less is more' (eventually) approach. I am running a horizontal hive, compatible with Langstroth frames, and also looking into the Layens set up as well, and follow Dr. Leo Sharashkin's informative articles and talks on the subject of natural bee keeping. I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to more from you.
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 27 күн бұрын
I appreciate your comments and insight. I've noticed a trend in online beekeeping groups that those who frequently treat report higher losses than those who minimize interventions. But the conventional response is usually to treat more and suggestions, otherwise, often get the response as you reported from your bee association. I'm glad to hear of your progress. By continuing to propagate from your survivors you should see increased strength and resilience of your colonies.
@yaddahaysmarmalite4059
@yaddahaysmarmalite4059 28 күн бұрын
I find my hives have much less hive beetles in layens hives than langstroth hives. Layens hives have much less nooks and crannies for hive beetles to hide in than langstroth hives. so bees can more easily chase the hive beetles out of a layens hive.
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 27 күн бұрын
I agree with you. I also think that the ability to manage the available space for the bees by frames, not providing more than they can effectively cover, helps them to manage the beetles. When I see SHB they've usually been herded to the ends of the hive.
@mikelaney3026
@mikelaney3026 28 күн бұрын
Thank you young man it was just wonderful information God bless you and yours and God bless the USA
@91932net
@91932net 29 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 29 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Corylolable
@Corylolable 29 күн бұрын
maybe i missed it, but is there a queen excluder in the layens hive?
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 29 күн бұрын
I don't know of excluders made for the Layens hive, but some will cut down a plastic excluder to insert, vertically, between frames. I haven't yet used an excluder in the Layens hives, though. The colony will typically keep brood on the frames closest to the entrance and surplus honey deeper in the hive.
@steverochon1620
@steverochon1620 Ай бұрын
Interesting. I'm still new enough (5th summer) to maintain an open mind about what works. In the last two years, I've moved away from the ventilated method of wintering hives for more of a convection method. Those last two winters were the only times I've had hives survive a northern Illinois, and this may be the next step. That, and the fact that as I approach 70, my fondness for lifting boxes (and bending over to inspect lower boxes) has diminished. I'm relatively new to your work and find it both interesting and well produced. Thanks for your work.
@91932net
@91932net Ай бұрын
Love your channel, Newbee here😅I live up in the Rockies. My question is…..i had bought a few Nucs (I know, I just couldn’t catch any swarms last year and am so impatient to catch swarms this year). Anyhow, my first Nuc I cut the langstroth frames and then screwed them into my layens frames. My second Nuc I built adapter frames and used those. My third Nuc I just placed the langstroth frames sideways using my layens frames as a holder, does that make sense? My question is….for this third Nuc how do I rotate out the langstroth frames out? And should I do this before winter?
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster 29 күн бұрын
That sounds like a great experiment; I'd be interested to hear how the various conversion methods work for you. As for rotating out the Langstroth frames, I think the best approach is to keep adding frames on the brood end of the hive (close to the entrance), moving the Langstroth frames farther into the hive. If the bees cooperate they should keep adding brood close to the entrance and fill the frames deeper in the hive with honey. Eventually you should be able to harvest from the Langstroth frames or, at least, set them out for the bees to clean.
@liquidrockaquatics3900
@liquidrockaquatics3900 13 күн бұрын
@@SuburbanSodbusterso as I understand it from an outsider perspective, bees will first build comb for brood and the use it once for brood? Or does brood comb get used repeatedly? But after the used brood comb is empty and the colony is expanded, the empty cells are then used to store food for survival in lean times? Is the further area from the entrance chosen (in your opinion) as an efficiency factor or more as a security measure to prevent something from coming in to raid their stores?
@DonnaSchultz-us6hx
@DonnaSchultz-us6hx Ай бұрын
We are switching from Langstroth to Layen horizontal hives. We have an abundance of brood frames. Can they be wired tied together - bottom to bottom (trimming and narrowing the top piece of wood now as the new bottom frame)? Will the bees build their brood comb continually from the top brood frame to the bottom brood frame? Is it possible to create a closed "top bar" effect by nailing a length of lath wood to the top piece of the newly created double brood frame?
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster Ай бұрын
It's possible, but I'd have a couple concerns. One is that the bees build their comb with the cells angled down toward the middle, so if the bottom comb is turned upside down then the cells will be sloped in the opposite direction. Also, attaching the frames together would create a division between the comb on top and the comb on bottom. A better option, I think, would be to cut the ends off of the Langstroth frames so that the center portion of the comb will fit within a Layens frame and remove the bottom bar. Then attach the cut out comb inside of a Layens frame by running screws through the Layens top bar into the Langstroth top bar. This will leave space below the existing comb for the bees to build new comb. Of course, there are many ways of re-using the comb and, given some time, I could probably think of multiple variations myself. But, what I describe above will keep the comb and the angle of the cells in the original orientation - and not introduce a division in the middle of the frame.
@bbqburch8204
@bbqburch8204 Ай бұрын
Where are you located
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster Ай бұрын
Eastern Missouri
@subsidiarity8839
@subsidiarity8839 Ай бұрын
Excellent overview. I have both styles. I much prefer the Layens for the insulation and overwintering issues here in the north where overnight temperatures do fall to -30F a few times most years.
@kjamesjr
@kjamesjr Ай бұрын
Is it possible to use a horizontal hive, but with smaller frames?
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster Ай бұрын
People do use "long langstroth" horizontal hives with Langstroth deep frames, but the deeper frames like Layens provide a lot of benefit for easy over-wintering, especially in colder climates.
@lexwritesthings
@lexwritesthings Ай бұрын
I'm curious, did you keep the two colonies in there all season or did you eventually move them to separate hives? How did that go?
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster Ай бұрын
No, this is just a way of getting the new colony started and can buy some time until another hive is available. But, as long as the colonies are strong and the nectar flow is good they will outgrow the space quickly and one will need to be moved out. Depending on location, another hive can be put next to the original and one colony moved into the adjacent end of the new hive. Then the new entrance will be easy for the foragers to find. Or one colony can be moved into a small box (nuc/swarm trap) to be transported to a hive somewhere else. If the new hive is close by then the colony will lose foragers unless the colony can be moved a few miles away for a week or so to reorient. But if a colony is strong then they can sacrifice some foragers for a short time, and those foragers that return to the original location will likely end up going to the colony in the opposite end of the original hive.
@lexwritesthings
@lexwritesthings 20 күн бұрын
@@SuburbanSodbuster thank you! That's so helpful. I started working a Layens for the first time recently (my other hives are Warre) and now I kind of wish all my hives were Layens. I love the ease of horizontal management, and the bees seem to appreciate it too. I've gained so much from seeing your videos - books are great, but seeing the work in action makes a huge difference.
@Rob_Brock
@Rob_Brock Ай бұрын
Lemongrass oil always works. It’s natural and cheap. Swarm commander is way too expensive. 15’ is way to high and unsafe. Even Dr Seeley recently suggested hanging traps at a safe height. I’ve used a safe 6’ height and caught swarms every year. Some are even using water barrels with success. When lifting a healthy swarm off the tree it can weight easily 50-60lbs after one week. Safely bringing the box down is critical while holding the box and walking backwards down the ladder. Catching swarms in a Layens swarm trap is very easy. Don’t let people make it too hard for you. You don’t need special equipment or sprays. I’ve helped 6 people this year catch swarms in Layens traps. They are all excited about getting good local bees without paying. Give it a try. You’ll never go back to paying for bees.
@jeffreydustin5303
@jeffreydustin5303 Ай бұрын
Terrific explainer. Well done, sir!
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster Ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you found this useful.
@pappapace3437
@pappapace3437 Ай бұрын
I have been wondering if Swarm Commander was worth it, and now I know. Thanks. Also, I am hoping you will return to your conversion hive. I want to build one but would like to know how well it works before committing. Thanks for all your videos, they really help us nu-bees. (no pun intended)
@SuburbanSodbuster
@SuburbanSodbuster Ай бұрын
I've used the conversion hive since the original colony with good success. Last year swarm season got hectic and I ran out of Layens boxes and was using Langstroth. Not really wanting to increase my number of Langstroth hives, I used the conversion hive to migrate another colony. They are still in that hive along with Langstroth frames now used for surplus honey storage; I plan to harvest those this summer.