I use the other hole so I don't have to drill one. It works just fine.
@MosriteCharlieАй бұрын
Fix your crossover. The diverging rails in your video do not align.
@rob235ioa1Ай бұрын
Why try to fix a problem that doesnt exist..............POINTS have springs in them so whu put a paper clip in
@peteholzmanАй бұрын
Incredibly unsafe table saw procedures. You're lucky you didn't get kickback right into your gut
@rohitkhanna2 ай бұрын
Seems like a good idea. Seems to work. But not for long. Pity.
@JohnHill-qo3hb2 ай бұрын
I use PECO turnouts, I do have one or two Atlas and two Shinohara #8 curved ones as well. I find this video amusing because many modellers claim that one should remove the spring in the PECO turnout so they will work with a Tortoise machine, I leave the spring in and just use a thicker wire on the Tortoise. I made a spring turnout with a length of piano wire and some track nails, adjust the length of the wire so that your lightest rolling stock will push the points over without derailing.
@tomasgimenez45922 ай бұрын
Very nice!
@JaxonOsterhout3 ай бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@jonw37384 ай бұрын
thank you for this video! I am getting back into model trains after 40 years. Connecting my Kato track and power has been one of my biggest questions!
@dcrrails34024 ай бұрын
@@jonw3738 Glad I was able to help. Thank you for watching!
@FostoriaOhiomodelrailroadclub4 ай бұрын
what is the link for the blueprints for the wooden trestles
@dcrrails34024 ай бұрын
I just did a search on Trestle Bridge Drawings. Here is where I found it though www.nmrabr.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=748 There are others. I lucked out when I printed it, it was the perfect size to use as a template. Thanks for watching.
@VaughtDH6 ай бұрын
well done my friend. I enjoyed watching twas very original DCR.
@dcrrails34026 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@keithgamble53577 ай бұрын
It must be Atlas track turnouts ,they are garbage !
@NYCCovergirl7187 ай бұрын
Great idea. I'm going to try it.
@billmmckelvie51887 ай бұрын
Your track is mis aligned, As your trains traverse the outer turnout to mext inner one they bounce. You track does not follow the manufacturer's designed track geometry!
@bannerman1007 ай бұрын
Please cut out the music, it is very annoying. We want to hear the click as the turnout changes over.
@Brad-xd2bt7 ай бұрын
How does the paperclip fix derailments?
@FlyOz-b7b7 ай бұрын
a piee of plastic between the moving and fixed tie is far easier and better
@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of7 ай бұрын
WHY THE MUSIC IT MADE THE HEARING WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY HARD TO HEAR
@3DComputing7 ай бұрын
this would be watchable if it did not have that crap "music" - Way too loud - Adds nothing - Irritating.
@tracynation28207 ай бұрын
Super. I did something similar, but without an overthrow spring. I straghten a smaller paperclip, put a small loop in one end, then I poke the paperclip through the point throw bar where the switch machine connects. I get four track spikes, and put two into the layout, facing each other, holding down the middle of the paperclip, like a pivot, with the loop facing up. Then I push the loop end of the paperclip sideways to move the points and add two track spikes by the loop end, about 1/2" apart, with their heads facing out to catch the loop end of the clip. To switch tracks, I grip the loop, slide sideways slightly to unhook the spike head, lift, and slide sideways, moving the switch points, then replace the loop end against the other spike head. I provide the point tension and lock the points in that direction manually, by having the clip bend slightly, without any point overthrow springs. These work great, and are a cheap, easy, and effective turnout control method to allow operation during track construction, and they allow you to operate with no switch machines or throws until you can add them, and I even put paper clips on two overthrow spring equipped turnouts just to have a handle to switch them with. I still have six of them in use on an unscenicked seven track staging yard, mostly because of sentiment, because the rest of the layout has electric switch machines or high or low ground throws. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N.
@dcrrails34027 ай бұрын
sounds like great solution. Plus it holds the switch in place. Great idea. Thanks for sharing.
@rjmyers57137 ай бұрын
Turning off the annoying music would be a benefit.!
@vincenthuying987 ай бұрын
Dear DCR Rails, as so many commentators said before, Peco sells their turnouts with an over-centre spring installed. Also, Tim Warris from Fast Tracks Turnouts has made a great video on making your own over-centre springs out of piano wire. Great when the paperclip method works for the particular turnout on your layout. Nevertheless, it may be worth checking the video from Tim I mentioned, especially when the loop on the paperclip may show to be too wide to accommodate the appropriate spring action to put firmly the point rails in their positions on the stock rails. Just to close, I humbly think it’s instrumental to keep this possible tweak on our ‘hard drives.’ Therefore I very much appreciate your reminder! Cheerio
@dcrrails34027 ай бұрын
Thank you for the heads up. Thanks for the comment and watching!
@bobm39198 ай бұрын
Painful to watch. It took you 14 seconds just to cut the paperclip! More importantly, WHAT does the paperclip do? Yes, I know, it acts as a spring, but why didn't you explain that?
@willparsons328 ай бұрын
I used too be in the hobby and loved splurging on railcars that I normally couldn't afford to look at not alone own. Knowing that the cars where a serious piece of craftsmanship, precise engineering and everything else that justified the manufacture's three digit price tag of some limited run car, I knew they were designed to run flawlessly but setting the car on a mainline rail on my layout and crossing over a turnout and jumping the rails E V E R Y single time - in both directions frustrated me to the point where I ended up redesigning the entire layout and eventually giving the hobby up for the sake of my sanity. I think your resolution to the problem I was having would have found me still running my layout to this very day. All I can say is PECO, Eat your heart out!!😏
@garylester558 ай бұрын
Hi, that dam music! You don’t need it that loud, it should be soft. Cheers
@YuniorCampins8 ай бұрын
Good tip my brother
@larrybaughman6188 ай бұрын
🤠🖐🚂🫵
@keithhowell68338 ай бұрын
Instead of a paper clip, can this be done with a staple? IJA🤷🏿♂️
@wasatchrangerailway69218 ай бұрын
It is understandable why your trains are derailing there. You are using #4 turnouts where you should be using #6''s. Also, your tangent to curvature is off. If there is always just one car that is derailing there it is because the wheel gage is off. Just some constructive criticism!
@PlatformONE8 ай бұрын
Other brands of points maybe cost more, but they will be cheaper in the long run. Another idea is to not have curved track right next to points. Another idra to help would be if possible to use flexi track for curves and S curves.
@G_de_Coligny9 ай бұрын
0:10 Why do something !? Those sparks look awesome !😊
@tannercast93779 ай бұрын
An old idea, but I've never had much luck implementing it due to bending straight wire into the proper shape and length. This demonstration is a few steps simpler and seems just as effective. Nice job!
@rohitkhanna3 ай бұрын
It doesn't work. The clip invariably pops out.
@jacksnavely5599 ай бұрын
Life Like Power Lock track and have fun setting up everyway you can imagine , always another way to lay track , about 3 or 4 months and it changes , get nickel silver
@kensomething3799 ай бұрын
Someone mentioned it's an old idea. Others mentioned switching to A different brand. It's a old idea that I did not know. Someone else mentioned he did not explain how how or why this fixes the problem. Without the explanation, I had no idea what it was that he was doing to Improve the turn out. I'm in no position to buy new anything. Everything I get is used so if I end up with atlas so be it. But now If I have an issue, because of this video I know how to fix it for a about a penny instead of going out and paying twenty dollars to fifty dollars for a new turn out. One cent fix for a fifty dollar problem. Works for me and thanks for the video!
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
I didn't know about this until a bit ago when I stumbled across it. I too am on a very tight budget so anything to prolong the life of something, or an inexpensive way to have fantastic results I look for, and then share here. You're welcome for the video, I had hoped it would be beneficial to the community. Glad you found value with the video and good luck with your own layout. Thanks for watching and welcome aboard.
@robot77599 ай бұрын
Or you give your cars the proper weight. Cars which are too light will always cause problems, in my experience, but nevermind me.
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
Adding weight to the cars is on my ever growing to do list... Thanks for watching and commenting.
@robot77599 ай бұрын
@@dcrrails3402 Seriously, it's one of the first things you want to do as soon as you have a functional railroad.
@LarsPW9 ай бұрын
OK, nice trick, you made sure that the switch rails are kept as close as possible to their corresponding heel rails. More modern turnouts are spring loaded by design while older types left this task for the point motor mechanism. But what about the turnout you removed?
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
I threw it away. It was flat wore out and it wouldn't matter what I did with the thing. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@RichardSpencer-vk2kx9 ай бұрын
music to loud
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
noted
@davidsheriff89899 ай бұрын
Twisting motion on long wagons and carriages cause derailments. Needs a short straight to prevent the snaking effect as this produces two opposite forces...
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
I'm going to rework the location of the turnouts for the Arrival/Departure track and make a straight piece between the two turnouts. Thanks for the comments and for watching.
@HighFell9 ай бұрын
Fun fact about paperclips, invented in Norway in 1899. Nice seeing you improve what you have but I would look into modern trackwork if you can before committing to much more scenic work, Hi from UK 👍
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
I didn't know the fun fact. Thanks for sharing. I keep wanting to get to doing scenery, but the track work is keeping me busy! Thanks for watching and commenting.
@davidbugler45979 ай бұрын
This is called an over-centre spring. Peco switches have them built in. The paperclip will be fine, but the key element is to make sure that the distance between the turnout''s existing hole and the one you drill in the next tie is just fractionally SMALLER than the distance between the two prongs of the trimmed paperclip. That's what makes the clip want to spring back to full extension. It works even better with really springy wire, like a guitat string, which will not soften and lose its springiness over the years like a paperclip.
@michaelbujaki24629 ай бұрын
This is a neat thing that I wish I had thought of. Instead, I gave up on Atlas switch tracks and went with Peco, which have these springs already installed.
@davidstokes84419 ай бұрын
Good move.
@blainedunlap42429 ай бұрын
Please don't try this at home. Use one of the 27 better ways to do this.
@nathilliv10028 ай бұрын
Perhaps you should put together a video and explain them to us.
@davidbarrera3089 ай бұрын
I would like to add a few words of advice if I may. Intermountain 33 inch metal wheels, kadee couplers, and cars weighted to NMRA standards. Also have all your couplers either body mounted or truck mounted but do not mix. A kadee coupler height gauge is a must. Thank you for the paperclip tip. 36 inch intermountain metal wheels for passenger cars.
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
I figured that at some point I'm going to have to upgrade my rolling stock. However, the track work has to be good to eliminate sections where "something always derails there." My old turnouts were giving me problems, so the paperclip spring seemed to fix that issue. I have a couple of other problem spots that I'm going to fix next. Then I'll look at the metal wheels and Kadee couplers. I heard somewhere that HO scale rollingstock can use different size wheels, is that true? I may need to invest in a pair of calipers so I know what size I have... Thanks for the comment and for watching.
@MrLosttheplot9 ай бұрын
great video
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for stopping by and commenting
@petert97499 ай бұрын
DCR; or at least I hope it is DCR; losing track a bit here. To maul a great American saying: 'Go round the walls, Young Man; not up them.' That's what I did. 1/ long runs. 2/ huge radii 3/ Large radii turnouts. 4/ All is on narrow shelves; that means you don't lose the use of the room/garage. Effectively NO footprint. A layout on a table in the middle of a room takes out the whole room. 5/ Golden Retriever's bedding can be put under what is really a shelf layout. That means you don't break your neck on it. 6/ That last point is partly in jest, but only partly. Arrange your support legs so you cannot trip over the feet. It takes ONLY ONE FALL!!!! See if you can cantilever them out or place the layout shelf on angles secured to the wall. 7/ My layout is in a water-logged garage. The fact it still works is a wonder. Only one side is2' wide; the other main side is about 12" wide. Not quite that simple, but that will do. Some caveats: 1/ When 'going around' a room, swing the entry door the other way so you cannot lock yourself in. If you have a heart attack access is needed from outside. 2/ A lift section is needed as what you have is effectively an island layout. Have a look at 'Scott Rail'. My lift section is light enough, but is too wide. If time ever allows me back to the layout again I will replace it with a 2 foot long x 6" wide segment. Don't make 'duck-unders! You see: IT IS REALLY SO MUCH SIMPLER THAN WE ALL THINK. It can also be cheaper. Don't forget that 'gmail'. Meanwhile kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIvNmmmnedGbZqM
@JTTrainMan9 ай бұрын
I noticed some cars rocking very easily as if they have no weight🧐had similar issues and some of my issues were self induced like ballasting and couplers but the major one was weight of the cars! Most were underweight! Harbor freight has tire weights and I have a diagram I follow per length of rolling stock and add the necessary weight sometimes going over a bit on purpose. Now my trains can go several laps without derailing!
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
There are so many factors that cause derailments. I know trackwork is one cause, and then car weights is another. Most of my rollingstock I got as a kid, so it is more of a toy than a model, but with some tune ups that can be corrected. Thanks for the tip, I'll be checking into the weights down the road. Tuning up the rail cars is going to be in my future. Thank you for commenting and watching.
@PaulSmith-pl7fo9 ай бұрын
Something tells me that this trick is only necessary for use on certain makes of turnout.
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
Yes, Peco doesn't need this. Just trying to use what I have on hand and make things work. Thanks for watching and welcome aboard.
@musictosoothe9 ай бұрын
the problem i had with Peco, is trains would always derail if the switch wasn't set correct (when coming from the opposite direction of the points). I have many older switches on my layout that will allow a train to pass without derailing, even if the switch is set wrong. Now I can see your fix for Atlas switches as they are designed to be used with a switch machine (either manual or electric). Without that, they won't hold their position well.@@dcrrails3402
@waltslostson10569 ай бұрын
Your first mistake is using Atlas turnouts! Peco is the only way to go. Also the radius is to tight.
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
You've bring up some great points. I did start off using my old Atlas turnouts from my childhood, giving them a new life with the paperclip trick, but I’m always open to upgrading as necessary. I’ve incorporated a few Peco turnouts into my layout and have been really impressed with their performance. Regarding the radius, you're absolutely right-it's on the tighter side. I'm already planning adjustments to move the turnouts back for a smoother transition onto the arrival/departure track. These changes, along with navigating the switch between code 83 and code 100 track, will be covered in my next video. I've been working with what I had on hand, but I'm excited to share the solutions I've come up with. Thanks so much for watching and for the feedback. It's great to have you along for the journey!
@dundasjunctionmodelr.r-jam82679 ай бұрын
I only use Walthers turnouts, was not impressed with Peco
@plutoyaldnil47509 ай бұрын
Also if you want trains to run anything like smooth you are going to have to do something about that " turnout curve " piece the tracks have to join as smoothly as possible
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
Yes, the turnouts from the mainline to the arrival/departure track definatnly need some attention. In fact, that is the subject of my next video. Stay tuned and thanks for watching.
@bobm39198 ай бұрын
Yeah, that really looks bad!
@Joe-d7m6k9 ай бұрын
2 things--- dont try to cram too many tunouts in a really small area, and ALWAYS ALWAYS check the track by eyeballing it for smooth flow when installing it! From all directions!!!
@dcrrails34029 ай бұрын
Good points. I may have been over zealous with the industries. I added two more from the original track plan as I wanted places for operations. I have three real problem areas, and the one in the video was the worst offender as it was on the arrival/departure track and everything runs over that particular turnout. However, I plan on running the trains slower on the inner loop with the industries and all, so hopefully with good turn outs and the paperclip spring on the older turnouts things will go well. If not, new turnouts will be used, as needed.