@@TracyAMalone it’s still one of the top episodes of all time!
@TracyAMalone2 күн бұрын
@ woo woo! Sounds like we need to do a 2025 interview
@DivorceandBeyond2 күн бұрын
@@TracyAMalone I was thinking the same thing!
@brightpage10202 ай бұрын
Ladies, these women know the full ins and outs of what’s involved in this. Please listen and follow their advice. Make the call to them or pros experienced and qualified who have your best interests at heart. 💜
@brightpage10202 ай бұрын
One gal I know used to make these beautiful artsy mobiles - like mobiles for over baby cribs - but these were more like home decor mobiles for kids or any room. She made them with felt, and this wooly string… they were simple and fun and easy for her to do at home with her toddler and she sold them on Etsy and made plenty that helped her pay for her divorce. She could do it around her kids’s schedule and just sort of say she was making gifts for her old friends (many of us saw them on her FB page and purchased them directly). She’d sell them for like $60-80 or a really elaborate one for maybe $100. Plus shipping. She saved up for a couple years and got help and took her time to plan it out. But was able to create a great new life for herself and her child. A safe one.
@brightpage10202 ай бұрын
Women that I know who have gone through this tell me the toughest thing was feeling like they had to become a liar or hide things both because of fear for their safety in case their partner found out, but also because they don’t like feeling deceptive, even to abusers who in a lot of cases were not honest with the women who just have a boundary around becoming deceptive themselves. Risking their own abuse rather than their integrity doesn’t feel as difficult to them if the abuse isn’t that bad.
@brightpage10202 ай бұрын
“Because it happens in increments…” 😮😮😮❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉 whoa 😳 This makes so much sense. “You’re too strong for your own good” 👍 The women I know who have been caught up in this were and are *SO* strong! And from very strong families… and were super smart, successful, had all the support in the world, which is probably why it did eventually end, thank goodness! I heard from people recently who don’t have access to all that support and I can’t even imagine the weight of these decisions for them. I just pray for anybody in this. And thank Goodness for coaches like you who can be helpers, connect people with resources like this interview, and keep people accountable.
@kristykern3402 ай бұрын
I need help with this. I’ve left. I left my son with him because I didn’t want to uproot him from his home moved 1000 feet down the street. He changed the locks and alienated my son at age 9-10 . I trusted our arrangement. I fought like a lioness. I have no one in my corner. Omg because I was so beat down by him that I thought he was the better parent. Even know he’s a daily heavy drinker narcissistic. He coerced me into signing a lie document under the influence uncovering itself as a property agreeement. Totally brainwashed. He used my son as a pawn and a weapon to hurt me. I turned to drugs and tried to kill MYSELF. I sawbthebabuse when I moved out. and left but had to come home because of money he decided to stop helping me since he controlled money and omg the life I have please help me navigate getting help in the law. Our poor son is 14 and so angry he sees it now that he was dealt a shitty hand and I’m so tired I’m just fucking tired
@ginamedico82332 ай бұрын
This woman is trying to be me! 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
@ginamedico82332 ай бұрын
This is so bizarre to see a woman acting like me and stealing my researched work about domestic abuse. This woman is a psychopath
@ginamedico82332 ай бұрын
THIS IS MY STORY - This woman is a psychopath and needs to be stopped.
@ginamedico82332 ай бұрын
Every word she says is based on my research and my podcasts. Gina Medico of sweet corner girl.
@ginamedico82332 ай бұрын
This is based upon Gina Medico’s research and podcast for sweet corner girl. This group of women she is associated with has taken over my podcasts and have acted like this is her story. This is my story. She’s received a cease and desist and she continues. Something is wrong with this woman and she needs to be stopped.
@BBanerjee-z2x2 ай бұрын
Friend i am interested to friendship with devorce lady due to i am alone man
@robinfoster92872 ай бұрын
The worst coercive control I've ever been put thru is from Catholics and religious people who exploit, force men onto women, take their bewlongings, lock them in homes, steal their money, kidnap, drug, force unwanted controlling relationships on independent women who are REALLY NOT LOOKING FOR THEM and keep them chained in rooms molested, controlled, vomiting up sleeping pills, showering in their swimsuits showering with "god" forced onto feminists and well, I'd hve been a luckier woman if ariel castro would have sex abused me and treated better. he sodomizes me, destroys my education, takes my moneyl i was left runnign to shelter with a backpack, self-harmed, blacked out violated and will in fact blame him for long term rape, torture, kidnapping grosser neglect than i've ever experienced i was more thankful to be outside safe sleeping (unable to) finally on a park bench by myself. He has entitlement issues, narcisssism, hates women independent, gets women up deat hthreatning them for MATRIMONY to feminists who don't believe in it, stalks, murders , slams me into walls with teh 10 commandmewnts, won't let me dwell on my own living without him and is a murderer. He's caused suicide and it's still the first thing on my mind each morning asked to l ive with this vile piece of f trash near me.
@citygalmelanieproductions14312 ай бұрын
INSANE to leave with the court systems and their entities! This woman is totally insane… with the corruption in our Judical and government entities…. PURE INSANE!
@citygalmelanieproductions14312 ай бұрын
Where are the Resources????
@LydellAaron3 ай бұрын
Very good video. You want to go to court so that the issues are on file in some jurisdiction, part of record keeping strategy. The court brings "order" to this complex issue.
@supobostarman4 ай бұрын
Too late. Already called her a narcissist. Now what?
@sweetlittlelightofmine4 ай бұрын
What about reactive abuse?
@AffectionateSeaOtter5 ай бұрын
For every ABUSER who went through a crappy childhood there are plenty others who went through the same or worse who don't end up becoming abusers. So I don't believe in the theory / explanation / excuse that Childhood Trauma CAUSES a child to become an ABUSER. It creates the conditions but the CHOICE is yours.
@AffectionateSeaOtter5 ай бұрын
When Physical Abuse goes UNDERGROUND it becomes Coercive Control.
@DVul5 ай бұрын
Family law is toxic, it has destroyed marriage and birth rates for 50+ years now by 80%, and is acrimonious BY DESIGN... (not so) funny enough it was written by lawyers like you... who profit by it, no conflict of interest there..?! Equally people who practice in it are equally so, some of the most toxic people I've met are family lawyers. They thrive in conflict...just look at social stats and people who came from single mother homes to see how good a job you've done... Script is mother us a victim and a better parent and deserves all the custody, money and support, and father is abusive and needs to oay for it all... problem is kids pay the price for this stupidity later in life, and these idiots perpetuate it
@mswonder19705 ай бұрын
Mediation was a disaster! There is NEVER. A reciprocal action or a two way street, have gone through 10 different mediators and they ALWAYS HIJACK the mediation and the mediator always came back in a rush at the very last 15 mins of it! To try to force me into a decision in a rush. Imposible in my case!
@danbruno59455 ай бұрын
Im doing 50/50 with my ex gf Shes says im not allowed to cut our sons hairs without permission She cuts his hair a week later without asking me Says it all😂
@nanettej97606 ай бұрын
It's great to have ressources like this. Thank you. ❤
@hollytaylor94217 ай бұрын
My friend who makes $65,000 a year was ordered to pay $3,000 a month to her ex who for 6 years has consistently made $3 million annually.
@DivorceandBeyond6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing @hollytaylor9421. It feels as if there must be more to the story for there to be what feels like such a lopsided order but in any event, I am sure this is very frustrating for your friend.
@ashiquzzaman6667 ай бұрын
Susan, your discussion with Tracy and Debra was incredibly enlightening! Loved the Bobo Buffet analogy - it really puts things into perspective. Sent you a DM on Instagram to chat more. Thanks for sharing such valuable insights on divorce coaching!
@TracyAMalone7 ай бұрын
Love Bill Eddy! We just edited our interview. ❤️
@TruthFirst0057 ай бұрын
I've been separated for 7 months trying to work on my health but filling for divorce here soon. Would it be worth hiring a Forensic accountant to see if hes hidden money etc?
@BeauTCravez3 ай бұрын
Most def!
@angelalepore5718 ай бұрын
I would love to try therapy with you? I'm 63 years old and my youngest is 28 and all my kids have switched to his side. I have no one.
@anxietyrecoverycom8 ай бұрын
I've noticed a few times in the episode how a children who go through their parents' divorce at a young age under 18 is less challenging than "gray divorce" for adult children. I would LOVE to see the researched based evidence to back up that claim...
@anxietyrecoverycom8 ай бұрын
Children or adult children of divorce have human rights...I think we should spend alot more time on that absolute truth.
@SigmaFeminine8 ай бұрын
This doesn’t address the behaviour of the covert narcissist who is often on their absolute best behaviour around all lawyers mediators and judges while lying through their teeth.
@DivorceandBeyond8 ай бұрын
It can be difficult to cover every aspect of a topic in a single episode but if you want more information we highly recommend Bill Eddy's books. You can find some of them on our "Beyond Reading" page on the website: divorceandbeyondpod.com/beyond-reading
@lakshmi553810 ай бұрын
Grateful for all the information. Does judges look into the case history before meeting? As it is important for judge to know what is happening before the actual meeting for fair judgement
@Pjayysan9 ай бұрын
I honestly feel like they don't.
@anneyoung231011 ай бұрын
Coercive controllers are not only malignant, malicious, sadistic and desperate to invade and dominate every aspect of the victims life (reputation, career, finances, relationships, freedom, privacy) but they are mentally ill addicts, and should be exposed, held accountable, and prosecuted for their abuse and the plethora of associated crimes. Most of the invasions are criminal, in my case, dozens- surveilling, tracking, stalking, spying, technology and social media hacking, blocking, and shadow banning, doxing, isolating, career and financial monitoring, theft, sabotage, threatening and black mailing friends and family, paying flying monkeys to run incessant interference,...etc. Two things need to be highlighted by lawyers, psychotherapists, and other professional services: 1-all stalkers are mentally ill. Period. Stalking in any form is sick, and exposes the victim to horrifying and dangerous perpetrators/flying monkeys and traffickers, and has hugely debilitating ramifications for the victims, sometimes including murder/death. 2-Coercive control has numerous criminal elements and should be prosecuted. Victims are not being protected because the system supports these types of crimes, which are only becoming more common.
@lisakeshet380211 ай бұрын
I really like both of your podcasts, thanks so much for all of the work you’re doing for divorcing parents and their kids. It’s really helping me on many levels to navigate my divorce. I do wish that you would use more inclusive language for same-gender parents. It would mean a lot for so many of us in the LGBT community who are going through divorces (with the right to marry comes the right to divorce)🏳️🌈
@thumbz1960 Жыл бұрын
March will be year #4 without my girls. I am so devastated everyday I wake up and see pictures of us around the house. Don’t know how long before it takes a toll on my health too. Even with how well my life has been going since the divorce, this overshadows all that happiness. And there’s nothing I can do
@WarriorQueenb Жыл бұрын
How can they hack the phone car or computer without access to the phone computer or car? And how can I get proof to show my attorney in the court system?
@LisaValentine110 ай бұрын
The attorney and court systems will not help you. They are on the psychopath’s side.
@Sailorpluto1929 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that’s a spot on! I’m over 30, and struggling to deal with my parents’ divorce. I don’t know how to navigate future holidays, vacations, family get togethers with my spouse’s family… I want both of my parents to be happy in their lives. There was betreyal in their marriage, and I try to be neutral to their feud. I question the meaning of family and all my childhood memories. It’s hard.
@awakening80 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@ol7079 Жыл бұрын
❤️
@smtasrifshamim Жыл бұрын
Hello
@KD-gd5oq Жыл бұрын
100% chance that these guys Google phrases like "How to cause pain without leaving any marks."
@reesedaniel5835 Жыл бұрын
It comes naturally to them because they are born that way....they are offspring of the serpent. See Psalm 58:3-5
@RosieTime_ Жыл бұрын
Coercive control has ruined my life and I want to lift the weight of the coercive control off of me so I can live for myself and not feel guilt or shame.
@Nico589011 ай бұрын
I feel for you. I'm so sorry, it's too heavy of a weight to carry. Glad you found this video I was a broken and suicidal young woman 3 yrs ago. I left with my kids and made it to the other side and life is so so much better. Please imagine me waiting for you on the other side!! If I could make it out, I know you can too!
@RosieTime_ Жыл бұрын
If only mental, emotional and verbal abuse showed on our physical body. To see what comments, insults, mixed messages do to someone's psyche would be something shocking. I wondered that since I was an adolescent. Gen X kids are survivors.
@reesedaniel5835 Жыл бұрын
It does show up inside us in the form of various diseases and illnesses like IBS, colon problems, psoriases, fibromyalgia, lupus, etc.
@anthonyburke5656 Жыл бұрын
My parents had 9 children, every one of them breathed a sigh of relief when my Mother decided to separate and divorce. On my part, I could visit my Father, something I hadn’t done for years, because my Mother would be there.
@anthonyburke5656 Жыл бұрын
Divorce lawyer for 30 years, gotta say this, most Divorce Judges come to each case with their mind fully made up. There is so very little “Judging” done, they read the papers and take a position, getting them to first disclose the position, then, changing as necessary that position, is the art of the practise as a Divorce lawyer. My Frank advice to about 85% of litigants is devote your energy to settlement rather than litigation, you will almost certainly get an overall better result.
@redandblack19118 ай бұрын
Any input on move away cases and is what you describe here applicable to move away cases? Thank you!
@anthonyburke56568 ай бұрын
@@redandblack1911 Hi Tony, I call them “Re-location” cases. I don’t know your case law on the topic. Depending on whether you’re working for the “relocating” parent or the objecting parent.the relocation is always the “custodial” parent. The real motive/s for relocation are almost infinite, but valid ones are such things as: work, housing, extended family, health. After taking a full history, it’s a matter of collecting admissible evidence, deposing it and then assessing the Responses. I have always read the cases on Hague Convention (International Recovery of Children) with interest. There are often quoted interesting Expert Opinion on the effect of various factors on children. I recall one relocation case where the Judge took the Bench and said words to the effect of “You will have to have a good case to get up on this”. I was acting for a Father seeking an Injunction against a move un-announced by the Mother but foreshadowed by the children. The current Orders were Consent Orders made after my client had succeeded in an Appeal and the matter had been remitted for Re-hearing. We obtained evidence, on subpoena, that the Mother had been negotiating the purchase of the property she now owned and was proposing to move to, while the original Tria AND the Appeal AND the re-hearing were being conducted AND hadn’t disclosed the planned re-location to the Father, the Court or the Children until after the Final Orders were consented to, then only incidentally to the children. In effect, she planned to skip, create a status-quo and stonewall. The Judge granted the Injunction, gave a Costs Order in favour of the Father and granted the Father the right to lodge a Lien on the title of the Mothers property, as security for her compliance with the Orders she had consented to being made.
@calliopivogiatzis2235 Жыл бұрын
My friend's ex, in my opinion, is like a bad cold that never goes away. He's a narcissist that subtlely,, not necessarily coercively controls my friend at the casino. He's also the reason why my friend dosen't show up at the casino alone to hang out with me and my husband
@shellymichelle904 Жыл бұрын
This is life transforming. The stuck of wanting to be right?! We already are right and we need no more validation from anyone. Move on and create a beautiful life for yourself! ❤
@user-ee5om8wy7u Жыл бұрын
I think society teaches how toxic behavior is beautiful: it teaches us through movies and social traditions. For example, most people in society would generally describe someone, who I might meet and hear their claim that they "love me and want to marry me and have children with me" (literally from the first sight of seeing me), as very romantic and cute. But this in reality is very abnormal and potentially dangerous. I met many men who are attractive and are instantly love -bombing. And it always felt irresistibly attractive to me. So, I was raised to be attracted to toxic behavior and see it as romantic. One time I met a guy who kept saying to me with emotional tears in his eyes how he loves me so much that he would die for me, kill for me and that he basically loves me to death. Eventually he started saying he would kill anyone who would take me away from him. I am educated enough to know it's not healthy at all. Yet, hearing those words made me feel "loved" and "so special" and more attracted to him. I don't know why I react like this. I am smart and I know I should not be attracted to it. But then, I never had my father's attention, I never had brothers or any siblings, and I was bullied in school by boys who'd call me ugly. I couldn't get help from bullying because I was afraid to tell my parents. I was afraid because they were fighting a lot. I felt isolated and scared, growing up. Suddenly, I meet someone who "cares" so much they'd commit crime just to keep me in their life. It makes me feel important and significant rather than scared - and those are the feelings I never had growing up(the feelings of being important and significant). Hence, love bombing from an attractive street gangsta (who was a drug user and drug seller)😢became absolutely biologically irresistible and addictive to me. However, after reading and hearing tons of information on signs and dangers of love bombing and statistics on homicide among cocaine users, I finally convinced myself that the sweet love-bombing individual was potentially a threat to my own life. I figured that only due to EXTREME amounts of reading and learning so much. I figured it already at the stage of love bombing, while still feeling my own crazy infatuation with that person. I couldn't break my own pull to him. But I forced myself to trick my brain. I told myself to take a break from him(just a two month break and not a break up). And during the break I might clear my mind a little, and convince myself to stay away from that individual on a permanent basis. But that huge amount of self-reflection and learning is possible for me because I generally love to read and learn: I went to school and got two university degrees and I learned to speak three languages. I guess I have very good learning skills that allowed me over many years to become aware of my own trauma bonding experiences, which are also a great factor in becoming "voluntarily" trapped in such dangerous-to-life relationships. But most regular people (who don't have Master's degrees and any reading/learning habits) might not have that ability. 😢
@AffectionateSeaOtter5 ай бұрын
VERY IMPORTANT POINT you brought up my dear! It's GREAT that you can SEE it when so many others just sleep through it.