Looks real cool so far. I dig the mother 1 inspiration
@robinsonnox99802 ай бұрын
thanks!
@Flameshadow224 ай бұрын
I legit just discovered the pot warp solution in this video. Man, I'd read the in-game hints about that one a dozen times, but I could not wrap my head around that solution. This game often requires some huge leaps of logic with really vague hints
@The8bitFighter4 ай бұрын
Dude mad props for doing it the right way. Although I award you only half points for playing the remake version.
@BigJinfinity5 ай бұрын
Having finished the game recently I definitely feel that part about Jormungandr's ankh Though i figured out how to operate the corridor of blood, so i made it even further, all the way to the eternal prison, before i ended up fighting him A key fairy finally showed me the solution It's also funny to me that you figured out the "buried fortress" puzzle without any hints, cause i was stuck on that for probably around 10 hours, due to me not remembering that Svipdagr was a miniboss
@airix105 ай бұрын
Since this video is 5 years old, my comment here is probably meaningless to you, but Castlevania II (NA version) really has only a single incomprehensible secret, and you could probably brute force it since it's in an obvious "what do I do here?" location.
@robinsonnox99805 ай бұрын
I think I know the secret you are talking about and it's been spoiled to me through years of secondhand CV2 talk
@airix105 ай бұрын
@@robinsonnox9980 Yeah I'm sure you know the one. Also way back when, we were all subscribed to Nintendo Power so we already pretty much knew how to solve it before we even had the chance to spend 260 hours figuring it out 😁
@kenzoo216 ай бұрын
interesting mechanics. is there a demo somewhere ?
@robinsonnox99806 ай бұрын
Not yet. I am getting close to finishing the demo, though
@DonYagamoth7 ай бұрын
This is a really neat retelling, thank you for sharing your story. I know I'm about 5 years late, but I still appreciate your video :)
@XionSteel7 ай бұрын
older video but this one keeps popping up in my feed... but yeah, its the type of game where you get a bunch of items and need to figure out exactly where those items get used. It is possible to go in completely blind and not taking notes, while stumbling around and getting through the first 4 bosses without much trouble. Its when you hit the gate of illusion where you have to do a metric ton of required back tracking, and once you get to the tower of the goddess solutions are so far and few in between that you start to give up your blind run. This is where my wall ended up being, since i did my run going off memory from watching a let's play from deceased crab on the og la-mulana 16 years ago and the remake 11 years ago. Needless to say it was sparse at best but i ended up surprising myself with how much i got done with that alone.
@celebritiesnow75897 ай бұрын
man your channel is so underrated . even make the best contents
@rulan22609 ай бұрын
Chrono Trigger has bad combat? What?
@lukaerd62589 ай бұрын
I just recently beat La-Mulana 2 and boy, making my own map was definitely the best thing I've done for both games, most of the time i spent just browsing through my maps made from screenshots frankensteined together in Paint Tool SAI, complete with all the tablets too. But yeah making assumptions definitely was what hurt my progress the most. There were some puzzles that i just had completely backwards (mainly the Footprints) and i needed hints to get me on the correct train of thought. Although that one puzzle about the colossal dragon and infernal fiend was total bull, i had no idea what the hell the colossal dragon was supposed to be and the game never hints about it. Although i guess if I had payed attention to the images Brahma shows you then i may have figured it out then.
@darkarchonisme8 ай бұрын
the dragon is the takamagahara shrine and that is hinted at in a couple of places - it's the constellation shape for it in the annunaki charts of eg-lana, and the puzzle about a mantra to opena drop into the one chamber of the snake twins in the ancient chaos references it as well iirc
@lukaerd62588 ай бұрын
@@darkarchonisme Yeah you just said what i already had said and known for a while.
@darkarchonisme8 ай бұрын
well, sorry? I couldn't have known that from the video and the one comment. wasn't trying to be rude, just helpfully informative my bad.@@lukaerd6258
@ArmyK99 ай бұрын
You gotta be kidding? I switched to broadband cable in 2001, which already had something like 4-5mbps back then and was considered phenomenal. I'm very impressed by how you survived this long on dial-up!
@GuuJiYA-a.k.a-TheCrafty9 ай бұрын
Hahahaha I beat you.... 185 hours and no spoil x) omg that game. Truly an amazing experience, and a 150-page notebook full of notes where I recartograph with the names of the rooms and various annotations. For me, one of the puzzles that made me reconsider my way of thinking in this game was the one in the gate of illusion , where you have a long text peppered with wisdom and foolishness. And where you have to understand that right and left are not the solution. I lost my mind for 4 hours hahaha. Ps: Btw you have to play TUNIC ;) you will love it
@JoelHernandez-tz3vk9 ай бұрын
I'll avoid this like a plague and maybe and just maybe play the sequel. Largely because it isn't hard in the same way Battletoads or Super Meat Boy... or even I Wanna be the Guy is hard and in fact, I'd rather no death run Battletoads than play La Mulana. This game isn't hard so much as it is punishing and complex. Which is about the antithesis of accessibility. ... Not saying Battletoads is an accessible game. Specially with game overs in the equation. And if it does matter I do have some less than sane achievements like 106% of Super Meat Boy (total death count: 10006), Contra 3 in Hard mode, Battletoads without using a continue, no warps and no extra lives exploit in stage 2, every official level with all coins in Geometry Dash (total death count somewhere around 9000) just to name a few.
@robinsonnox99809 ай бұрын
It sounds like this isn't your kind of challenge
@maudjito10 ай бұрын
Whoa, that's hardcore. Stephen's Sausage Roll is absurdly hard
@robinsonnox998010 ай бұрын
I found SSR to be pretty breezy compared to other puzzle games I was playing at the time like The Witness and La-Mulana
@maudjito10 ай бұрын
@@robinsonnox9980 You have a different skill-set than mine, because I found The Witness much easier than SSR. La-Mulana is a bit different
@reggieisnotadog484111 ай бұрын
Just watched this. I know it's been a while but well done doing it without a guide! I'm always so blown away by the art in this game.
@artey667111 ай бұрын
You know what? I hate you. About 9 months ago I left a comment here expressing my frustration of me not being able to do the same as you. I beat the original La-Mulana (with using a guide a million times like any mortal, obviously), but after that I failed to beat the remake. Eventually I quit because playing a game on rails isn't fun. Now I came back to it and eventually got stuck once again, even though I passed that part 9 months ago. So you didn't just beat me once, not twice, but three times. PS: I don't hate you. Rather, I'm envious.
@legrandliseurtri7495 Жыл бұрын
6:05 Oh shit. I'm playing the game for the first time and I think I'm falling in the same trap. I have not idea how to access Kujata, but I did just beat Jorgunmand and got access to new areas. Well, so be it, I'm gonna continue the same way and hope that I figure out what's going with Kujata later on.
@Demortixx Жыл бұрын
I can't play games like this. They just frustrate me. I hate puzzles but love the idea
@robinsonnox9980 Жыл бұрын
Second-hand appreciation still means something!
@legrandliseurtri7495 Жыл бұрын
I was stuck in the tower of goddess for about 2 hours before looking up a guide. I solved it on my own once I was told what hint tablet was useful for this puzzle, I can't imagine how awful it must have been to be stuck there for so damn long. I just got past the 70 hours mark in this game. I went from having no help at all to slowly using the steam hint guide by Cheshire more and more. My desire to experience all of the content has become more important to me than solving every puzzle on my own. I do still solve a number of them without help(a recent example is finding the ankh jewel in chamber of birth) and I try to explore a bunch of possibilities when I'm stuck, but when I feel like something seems too arbitrary, I'll simply look at what seems like a relevant hint on the guide.
@Nat_the_Chicken Жыл бұрын
Yeah I also got stuck on the beherit feather thing for ages until I went to talk to Gerd lol. Luckily I figured out the underworld thing not long after, was messing around in corridor of blood and noticed the kotoamatsu symbol on the seal so I went to ask them about it lol
@geluflamma6896 Жыл бұрын
Got it in 95 hours with my friend. We didn't know what is this game. After we stuck first time we divided our duties. He played it most of the time while I took the notes and killed the bosses. Eventually we stuck again, for real now, so i screenshoted every tablet, dialog, skeleton, etc, while my friend hugged and smacked evey wall, floor and ceiling. Then I made 20 page google sheet and sorted it out. It was much more doable but we got stuck several more times. Eventually we got it! No guildes, no hints, we only read manual (we skipped spoilery parts like items list). There is no other game that comes close to this.
@robinsonnox9980 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like working with a friend is the way to go!
@vgpowerlord Жыл бұрын
Is it bad that even before watching a video like this, I can probably guess which puzzles took the most time?
@albertwong4516 Жыл бұрын
This is insane bro... I killed the flying fish boss without guides, then it got impossible. Loved the game but the difficulty spike was ridiculous. great video.
@treehann Жыл бұрын
Apparently I forgot I already watched this but I love this video, it comes off as a well-edited self reflection, a neutral review of the game, and a nice showing of what cryptic games have to offer (all the physical notetaking and such). Thanks for making it!
@treehann Жыл бұрын
Just came across this while looking for La Mulana 2 content and i loved your video! I’m someone who finds this series endlessly fascinating from a game design perspective but I don’t think I’ll ever finish the sequel. I only beat the first one by following DeceasedCrab’s Let’s Plays and i don’t have the time to devote anymore to the series. But i’m obsessed nonetheless.
@ShawnBlaque Жыл бұрын
I was watching a review for the game and the guy mentioned your insane journey to beat it. Hearing your actual story is even crazier lol good job man
@jibster5903 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm late to comment, but you could always try playing La-Mulana Classic, the remake you played is based on a game originally developed back in the day to look like an MSX game (not actually MSX), it's got a lot of the same puzzles, but the remake was made specifically in a way to trip players that had already played Classic. It will be similar the other way around, and maybe more fun.
@davidnishball660 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't worry about "cheating" for the ancient battery. The room is named "Chamber of Elements", which is a big hint.
@chucklebutt4470 Жыл бұрын
Great videos about La Mulana, dude! Also, love the My Blood Valentine profile picture, definitely a man of refined taste! lol
@quiquecrz6451 Жыл бұрын
in fact this game is easier than the original one, because of the walljump.
@gustavolobo4314 Жыл бұрын
Solving a murder mystery is easier than beating lá mulana
@gustavolobo4314 Жыл бұрын
I AM STUCK. You: "Never assume the order of progression" I start whipping the puzzle and dies of eye statues thunder
@joshua_lee732 Жыл бұрын
I used dial up until 2020. I literally had to rent a VPS to use to downloads files on the internet and had to use rsync to pull the file to my local computer. Funny enough that Linux works so much better on Dialup than Windows these days are there's FAR less (effectively next to none depending on the distro) background bandwidth usage.
@Xeeze Жыл бұрын
I have this game and might try it Soon:) just tryed the sea of stars demo and i loved that one that Will be released this year. I think Chrono triggers style is timeless and prob One of the best playstyles for jrpgs Thx for this awesome review
@eredkaiser Жыл бұрын
I remember my first playthrough when I spmehow just completely blacked out the entrance to ancient chaos and spent 15 hours wandering around lost.
@STANNco Жыл бұрын
I'm playing it now, and the most frustrating thing about the game is how long you can go exploring without having some specific item, so when you go looking for that item you have 7 different worlds you need to scour through
@STANNco Жыл бұрын
I've bit the bullet several times and searched for help finding some item, and it's infuriating how 1 statue in a room out of 500 is a roadblock to progressing with nearly or no hints
@jellywillreturn Жыл бұрын
12:15 People who know...
@jmv333 Жыл бұрын
Here from Dosh Doshington's channel, really love this vid! Especially how you detail the process, such an awesome achievement, an excellent video!!!
@Meganarb Жыл бұрын
Saw this in DoshDoshington's video, very glad he shouted this vid out!
@DSRwafflez Жыл бұрын
Having recently beat La-Mulana myself and looking towards starting my journey through La-Mulana 2, I'm curious what the commandments you drew up for yourself were. Also happy to see another Stephen's Sausage Roll enjoyer, I got my inspiration to play LM through discussion about it and loved both. Looking forward to watching your LM2 retrospective once I finish that one.
@robinsonnox9980 Жыл бұрын
Basically the same: always keep and open mind on what the solution could be, write down everything, etc
@artey6671 Жыл бұрын
Hey. Here is roughly what happened. A few months ago I beat La-Mulana, by which I mean the original freeware version. Of course, I had to resort to a guide eventually and later I was just playing on tracks and following instructions. I also saw your video at about that time, although I only watched it just now. A few days ago I started playing the remake and set myself the goal of beating it without a guide. Since I still knew the solutions to many puzzles of the original, I actually considered that to be a possibility. As you can tell, I was far from successful. Like you, I also didn't know how to flood the tower. I knew that the pot in the mausoleum was important, but going into it to be teleported is insane. You can hit the thing at 7:54 from outside that part, but it won't count, so I thought I needed a different weapon. Anyway, the other puzzle that got me stuck was getting the fruit of eden. Of course, the gate of illusion would have killed my run if I had made it there. After about 26 hours of playtime, I gave up. So yeah, it kind of sucks. It's not just that I failed to beat this game despite having a lot of knowledge about it. For me, it's a failure on a personal level. I care a lot about the ability to think critically and analytically. Likewise, I have a hard time giving up because I don't want to accept defeat. I study maths, where that mindset is basically mandatory. But apparently I'm not nearly good enough and I don't know what to do about it. I think I've started to play SpaceChem in 2015 and beat it in 2019, but that's child's play compared to La-Mulana. If you didn't make this video, I may have just concluded that the developers made an impossible game that no one has a chance of beating without guidance, but that's not the case. I hate to admit it, but your perseverance and problem solving skills far outclass mine. And since I've given up and used a guide, this failure will stick with me. I'm demoralised.
@AlastairGames Жыл бұрын
thanks, great review
@tenslein8977 Жыл бұрын
I got stuck and now I'm gonna give up. I briefly looked up some stuff online about where I was stuck, and I saw answers. I didn't know what that damn Nebra disc did, damn it! I also tried beating the time-stopping mini boss without the necessary equipment. I thought I'd be able to beat it if I grinded enough gold for gun ammo, but it ended up being a waste of time and I activated hard mode accidentally on top of that. I think I might never finish the game now.
@robinsonnox9980 Жыл бұрын
Ooof, that sucks. The game is hard enough on regular mode- Hard Mode: I can't imagine!
@Lunchtrey41 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. $4 on steam right now so I will be buying it
@peoplethesedaysberetarded Жыл бұрын
Jeez. My hat is off to you.
@GlennMagusHarvey Жыл бұрын
I've been playing this game with minimal help (only very light external hints) plus my distant memory of the original game, and I'm probably within a few hours of beating a first-time playthrough of the remake. I beat the original version of La-Mulana probably sometime around 2005, following DeceasedCrab's Let's Play (of the original, of course). That said, the remake does change quite a number of things, and my memory of some other things was fuzzy, so...I decided to try it with only the game's in-game clues and my memory of the old game, without external guides or hints. I don't remember how long my playthrough of the first game was, but according to my save files on the remake, I had two "false starts" like you did. My first was in 2013 when I spent an hour and a half, probably shortly after getting the game, just to check it out a little bit but without commitment. Later, in 2015-2016, I made a more serious effort, and played with some friends at times, spending a little over 9 hours on that attempt. Then, one day, after having mentioned the game to friends quite a lot over the years, I decided to stream it to a friend so that we could go on the journey together. Starting in 2019, I got through parts of the early game relatively easily, knowing what to do already, then put it down for unrelated reasons in early 2020 around the time the pandemic hit. A month or two ago, I picked it up again, intending to finish it. Another friend joined us, who did beat the remake before and occasionally offered me a few light hints. I have just over 36 hours on this file, and I expect to finish with around 40. My total runtime on the remake (which includes some non-playtime, such as waiting for friends to watch my stream) is similarly closing in on 90 hours. [game spoilers below] I found that I got majorly stuck at the same two places that you highlighted -- flooding the Tower of the Goddess (like you I thought I needed the Lamp of Time at that point), and unlocking much of the Chamber of Birth. In fact, I was stuck on that first roadblock when I put down the game in early 2020. And it was pretty much for the same reason as you highlighted -- and my memory failed me here since I think the solution is the same in the orignal. The second roadblock, meanwhile, occurred largely due to my lack of experience/expectation for the "held item" feature -- which is entirely new to the remake, and extensively used late-game in puzzles around the time the Chamber of Birth becomes accessible, while barely used at all before that. (In the original, all the held items were regular items alongside the other items, and puzzles that now require holding them up were different.) I also had a number of silly moments, such as...failing to notice a root-shaped ladder, or failing to start the plane with my key. Thanks for posting this video. Also, props for using LibreOffice!
@ellpherd9139 Жыл бұрын
saw someone mention la-mulana in an interview about game development and found this video, you have just earned yourself your 250th subscriber :)