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@magicmanspaz
@magicmanspaz Күн бұрын
No Z axis upgrade?
@deannaatkinson3004
@deannaatkinson3004 2 күн бұрын
I’d love to see a Bambu hotend round up. I’ve upgraded to the BTT Panda Revo with ObXidian .4 and .25mm. Would love to hear if the BTT extruder, gears, and fan cover thingies are worth it. Also, not sure if you’ve done it (too many Tubers in my brain), but a detailed stream on tuning filaments would be invaluable. But, if you’re looking for an intern to train for tuning filaments, I’m volunteering.
@hedleypepper1838
@hedleypepper1838 4 күн бұрын
Id like to see the wobble-x in place of those decouplers more precise i think especially in z hop moves
@hedleypepper1838
@hedleypepper1838 4 күн бұрын
A domestic toaster has the elements exposed without double insulation accessible through finger sized slots. The same consideration applies do not stick your fingers in it 😅😂🎉😊
@Amybnuy
@Amybnuy 4 күн бұрын
damn I'm so jelly I want one so bad!
@jeffbradley2501
@jeffbradley2501 4 күн бұрын
Disappointed I missed the live but stupid you tube told me it was 9.30 pm in Australia oh well at least I can still watch the stream even if it’s hours later.
@Toy_and_Prop_Masters
@Toy_and_Prop_Masters 8 күн бұрын
Excellent video! Sorry for the lengthy comment in advance. I was initially leaning toward the Prusa XL, thinking it would finally meet my needs, but after watching your video, I’m now unsure about whether it’s the right choice for my specific requirements. To give you some context, what I primarily need from a 3D printer isn’t necessarily speed, but precision. I often prototype intricate parts that must fit together with tight tolerances, so accuracy is key. I was initially drawn to the Prusa XL for its build volume, which I thought would be ideal, as my typical print heights range from 2” (50mm) to a maximum of 14” (356mm). While I mostly work with single-color prints, I’m also open to multi-color or multi-material options when needed, like the XL promises. However, the most critical aspect for me is achieving a smooth surface finish akin to SLA prints, but without the associated hassle of maintaining an SLA printer. I’ve heard that the Prusa XL’s slicer now includes the Arachne perimeter generator, which promises improved print quality, and that was something I found promising. Based on your extensive experience with various machines, I’d love to hear your thoughts on which printer would best meet these needs. Specifically, I’m looking for precision, ease of use, and the ability to deliver professional quality prototypes, without the maintenance demands of an SLA system. I trust your judgment and would greatly appreciate any suggestions or guidance on what to consider next in my search. Should I keep waiting or should I take the plunge? Thanks again for all the valuable content you create, it’s been a huge help!
@GreySectoid
@GreySectoid 8 күн бұрын
When your 3d printer is bigger than my apartment
@ApocalypsesDawn
@ApocalypsesDawn 9 күн бұрын
Did they include a back panel with your 500 kit? I'm not sure if they forgot mine
@MrAT-bv6zb
@MrAT-bv6zb 15 күн бұрын
Prusa vs Bambu is like Mercedes vs Kia
@joshc511
@joshc511 17 күн бұрын
Will you open source the slider or is there ones already available?
@neekovturbo
@neekovturbo 17 күн бұрын
Hey bud I hope I used your affiliate links correctly with the ***. Got me a bunch of PPS-CF and PA612-CF at 30% off from polly so that was a decent deal. And I spend about $260 at West3D on a bunch of odd ends i needed. Got me the Rapido2 Carbon UHF, Whats your thought on it?
@GhostlyGnome-iq9wl
@GhostlyGnome-iq9wl 18 күн бұрын
Hey thanks for the reminder about Polymaker! I was going to buy at any rate but thought I would give you the assist. Great work with your channel! Your a talented individual!
@MarkLee-z5j
@MarkLee-z5j 18 күн бұрын
Just ordered the Prusa XL with 2 heads. Never done 2 colour print before. How am I best designing and splicing with 2 colours? How does the slice know what print head to pick for which colour?
@Christopher72x
@Christopher72x 19 күн бұрын
Was this completed?
@mrphyslaw
@mrphyslaw 21 күн бұрын
I don’t see where they get ahead in the market with this. It has less features than the competitors and the price is higher. I just don’t understand the “excitement.” #prusadownfall
@Xymbu
@Xymbu 22 күн бұрын
I have to be a little bit nit picky. The AMS specifically says not to use carboard filament rolls and it looks like all of yours were cardboard. I use the bambu filament and ive never had a single filament feed issue.
@alessiobernoco9179
@alessiobernoco9179 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video, I was looking for something like this! A real direct comparison on which to choose if I have enough money but wnat only one printer that prints
@5jvm0u4
@5jvm0u4 25 күн бұрын
People do not understand that profit does not come out of no where, Prusa is earning it purely from selling printers, Bambu is earning it from the lockdown ecosystem just like Epson and Brothers with their ink cartridges, and the user info which is a highly valuable selected TA group that they can sell to marketing company. Also Prusa is using this profit to fund PrusaSlicer which Bambu just took it for free, and also average Chinese worker's wage is 5000USD per person PER YEAR. Think before you complain, if you don't want 3D printing to become the next lockdown ink cartridge system, you should not support any company that do these kind of things.
@GlenEdwards
@GlenEdwards 20 күн бұрын
So true. Sadly in the big picture, the small number of customers who make a moral-based decision compared to the vast majority of buyers who will make their decision based on value for money, speed, looks, features, KZbin hype… there is no stopping the beast. There is always going to be a place for Prusa, I hope they can continue to survive the thrive. But BambuLabs will, like DJI in its area, continue to grow and dominate until most others give up trying.
@makie1467
@makie1467 26 күн бұрын
It's just so boring. They could have make the xl to an m version.
@philippemayne7529
@philippemayne7529 27 күн бұрын
what d o you use for your belt ? it's unclear to mee what you use and I m sturggling with my belt on my build.It's a nylon?
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs 27 күн бұрын
You mean the tool? It is just printed from whatever you want, I released the file: than.gs/m/1150639 You just hold your belt against this, feed the tool through the area you need to pass the belt through and friction helps you pull the belt through. It works amazingly well. Takes a bit to learn but it really works. You can curve it a bit in your hands to help get around pulleys and idlers.
@philippemayne7529
@philippemayne7529 26 күн бұрын
@@MandicLabs yup taht tools , ty for the link and extra info
@notyouraveragegoldenpotato
@notyouraveragegoldenpotato 27 күн бұрын
Ha. When I first pulled mine out of the box i was like... well THATs a look- my kids got home and asked WOAH what is that? I said "its a new dishwasher" and they were like "oh.. ok" and walked off😂 so to kids eyes it is COMPLETELY passable as a dishwasher😂
@TheNewBloodDan
@TheNewBloodDan 27 күн бұрын
Finally they're making a competitive printer! I think Prusa is changing for the better!
@kruger12311
@kruger12311 27 күн бұрын
Not really. It's a smaller x-max3. Not worth it.
@Theprofessor1212
@Theprofessor1212 27 күн бұрын
Waiting for reviews. I was a prusa user since 2012 but moved to bambu X1C as there was just no competition X1C was way better to what prusa had to offer. If the reviews are awesome i will definitely be buying 2 of these to replace the original 2 kickstarter X1Cs we have.
@Immolate62
@Immolate62 28 күн бұрын
So a smaller printer than the P1S for twice the price and no AMS.
@krollmond7544
@krollmond7544 27 күн бұрын
There is AMS
@syko2695
@syko2695 28 күн бұрын
I really wish they'd have upped the build volume. Otherwise it looks solid
@mannysengineering
@mannysengineering 28 күн бұрын
$1200 plus trump tarrifs don't forget shipping next year looking like $1500
@jakeengland1430
@jakeengland1430 27 күн бұрын
Remember prusa has a stateside production proxy where they assemble all parts for kits in house so tariffs shouldnt be a thing if you order from printed aolid
@TestTypeG
@TestTypeG 27 күн бұрын
​@@jakeengland1430The parts are still coming in from Europe, and all those parts will incur tariffs. Assembled in the US doesn't mean squat when the material for assembly come from outside the states, which I imagine will be the case for 99% of things made in the US.
@The_Chillguy7
@The_Chillguy7 28 күн бұрын
would love to see one with a mmu3
@medvjed_store
@medvjed_store 28 күн бұрын
It is fully compatibile with the MMU3 :-D - so far I was to lazy to add the one I have to my MK4S.... Well - I guess I "need" that one ;)
@krollmond7544
@krollmond7544 27 күн бұрын
It is compatible
@maunique2852
@maunique2852 26 күн бұрын
@@krollmond7544 Compatible but you have to remove the top ... hmm fully enclosed unless using MMU ??
@krollmond7544
@krollmond7544 26 күн бұрын
@maunique2852 I don't know I don't use MMU. Look it up
@Ro3Deee
@Ro3Deee 28 күн бұрын
Is it true that the real reason #prusa does not support build in cameras on this printer is that Stratasys has two valid patents for this feature? US8747097B2 and US8562324B2 „a video camera positioned to capture video of the build volume from a point of view”
@bananasba
@bananasba 28 күн бұрын
1200$ and no camera?
@Ro3Deee
@Ro3Deee 28 күн бұрын
the real reason prusa does not support build in cameras on this printer is that @Stratasys has two valid patents for this feature US8747097B2 and US8562324B2 „a video camera positioned to capture video of the build volume from a point of view”
@marinermerrill3884
@marinermerrill3884 28 күн бұрын
I like that the camera is optional. Their focus on security and being able to remove cameras and wifi modules is a plus to me, not a minus.
@torquemada1971
@torquemada1971 28 күн бұрын
Either these are being sold near cost or they have been way overcharging for the MK4.
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs 28 күн бұрын
Eh I think the cast frame of the mk4 may have been pricier than it was worth. Pure guess though. There is less different from this to Mk4 than I expected. The upgrade kit is “only” $450
@marinermerrill3884
@marinermerrill3884 28 күн бұрын
Everyone worships core xy printers. At the end of the day the material cost is not really that different.
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs 28 күн бұрын
@@marinermerrill3884 They take up less space for the same build volume and enclose significantly easier. For someone like me printing higher temp materials regularly and having a lot of printers, those are ideal factors. And with current tech anyway, they can produce better print quality at higher speeds and not having obstructed build volumes like say a Cross Gantry design. They are the best of many worlds for a lot of people.
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 27 күн бұрын
They didn't get to the size they are at by undercharging. That said, I do think one of their core problems has been that their printers require entirely too much manual labour to assemble and looking at the construction of this, I think it fixes that somewhat. Id bet the profit margins are lower because well they have to at least get within the ballpark of the X1C but that they are still making their chunk of change especially with nickle and diming with the "optional"s
@maunique2852
@maunique2852 26 күн бұрын
@@MandicLabs If I had a Mk4 I think I would put the $450 towards a P1S then I'd have 2 printer and be in both camps. Will anyone buy a Mk4 now ? Rather than charging $450 for the upgrade kit I think Prusa should offer to exchange Mk4 for the Core.
@TooOldForThisS
@TooOldForThisS 28 күн бұрын
"You're welcome!" - The Voron Trident FYI, a Trident 300 kit can be had for around $200 USD less.
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs 28 күн бұрын
Absolutely true, but the trident is much less of a push button and go machine. For most folks this configuration is going to be a lot more useful day to day. Trident is really not a great PLA printer without modding either. And will draw a fair bit more power with its larger AC bed heater.
@YokohlCreek
@YokohlCreek 28 күн бұрын
Prusa has a kit version that is $200 less as well... The LDO Voron Trident 300 is not $200 less (by far the most popular voron kit)
@TooOldForThisS
@TooOldForThisS 28 күн бұрын
@@MandicLabs Agreed. I am a fan of Prusa, definitely nothing against them. I think they are one of the few premium priced machines that are truly worth their price, and I have no doubt that premium is part of what has helped them give back so much to the 3D printing community. It's REALLY cool that they will have a MK4-to-One conversion too.
@TooOldForThisS
@TooOldForThisS 28 күн бұрын
@@YokohlCreek LDO's machines always come with a premium price tag well above normal. The Formbot Trident 300 kit is $200 less than the Prusa kit, with essentially the same functionality, more if you take that extra 200 and put it into good mods.
@SpectraV3i
@SpectraV3i 27 күн бұрын
The LDO Voron Trident is $1,199(West3d) minus printed parts. Add printed parts for $239.99, add $7.50 because of the bed size. Total is $1,437.48, then add in 40+ hours to assemble it and if you don't know Klipper(like me), took me 2 months to get klipper installed on my ender 3 pi4 and btt e3 v3(getting errors), add time to get Klipper going lets say another 40 hours.
@plum3d
@plum3d 28 күн бұрын
I wish they had put the spool inside the chamber.
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs 28 күн бұрын
Outside won’t let out chamber air during swaps and allows for larger spools. Or dry boxes. Or printing direct from a dryer. Also, spools inside can be blocked by beds which is absolutely infuriating on a longer print.
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 28 күн бұрын
It looks like they finally made an answer, but Im disappointed by 3 things. 1. The misleading marketting that has many people thinking it has active chamber heating. 2. The build size is the same as before. I really wish it were bigger. 3. the camera is not included. Come on guys!!!! That being said, its looking pretty decent otherwise and its good to see that they havent completely fallen asleep. Its awfully close to whatever Bambulabs is releasing next though, so I guess we'll see if it holds up. I will note I think the fact that you can upgrade from the Mk4S to this for a not insane price (unlike some of the previous upgrades), its both pretty insane and novel. Im almost more interested in seeing that upgrade than the printer.
@username9774
@username9774 28 күн бұрын
build size is bigger
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs 28 күн бұрын
All solid stuff. It is a taller build volume but I also fully get wanting to stick with the same build sheet. They’ve got hundreds of thousands of customers with that bed size. Sticking with it so their bed plates and the vast aftermarket for them, makes sense. Camera should totally be included. That is honestly silly at this point. Granted the XL doesn’t even have the option yet. 😬
@YokohlCreek
@YokohlCreek 28 күн бұрын
@BeefIngot They don't have any marketing that says its actively heated. They only say its actively temperature controlled, which is a 100% accurate description. I don't know how you came up that they are being deceptive.
@YokohlCreek
@YokohlCreek 28 күн бұрын
@@MandicLabs from their blog post "The camera is scheduled to be ready in the same timeframe as the Prusa CORE One, so stay tuned - we will give you the option to edit your order and add the camera in case you order the printer before the camera becomes available. The same camera, although in a different body, will also be available for the MK4S and XL."
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 28 күн бұрын
@@YokohlCreek Given the number of people and even media outlets mislead by that very clearly misleading wording I think it's completely fair to call that misleading marketing. Theyve done it before too like with the mk4 launch. Companies should be called out for misleading marketing not only Chinese companies. Prusa shouldn't get a pass. Edit: More than that, in their blog they say verbatim: "But we wanted to take the heated chamber one step further."
@kerrigreen2626
@kerrigreen2626 28 күн бұрын
And it even as a optional camera.lol
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs 28 күн бұрын
Yepppp. Sure wish that was just included. The fact that the XL still doesn’t have one….
@trugbilddrachen
@trugbilddrachen 28 күн бұрын
I'm excited to see what comes from it, however holy panel gaps Batman. Not much better than the x1c but still.
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 28 күн бұрын
I have the same opinion I have when people complained about Bambulab panel gaps? Who cares if it hits the temperature you need it to reach? This appears to do that, so i dont mind outside of their marketing misleading people to think it has active heating. If it works, it works, and when it eventually gets negative pressure filtration, the gaps really wont matter.
@trugbilddrachen
@trugbilddrachen 28 күн бұрын
@ not trying to split hairs, and you are correct, if it heats it heats. I am looking at it from the design perspective and they couldn't do it any better? There are no moving parts unlike the z rod in the back or poop shoot. Could Bambu lab do a better job, sure. However I feel like Prusa who has been making printers for a long time could have done way better. Watching the videos and seeing all the light shining through the gaps was cringe worthy. Even look at top corners where the sheet metal is bent, even Bambu is not that bad. How much longer does the chamber heater have to run to keep that temp, esp is rooms that are colder? Then times that per job. Just seems they could have done better. Other than that is a nice looking printer.
@nlkatz
@nlkatz 28 күн бұрын
@@BeefIngot > Who cares if it hits the temperature you need it to reach? Heat will escape from the gaps and require more power to maintain temperature and likely limit the maximum temperature reachable.
@Roy-p5f
@Roy-p5f 29 күн бұрын
Dose it come with panel
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs 28 күн бұрын
No panels by default, just the files to order them locally. Which shipping and import wise makes sense. You can get an assembled machine with panels form them in the EU I believe.
@rickb5735
@rickb5735 Ай бұрын
I'd love to see a comparison with the A1/A1 mini only because it is a different style of color changer with even a color mod for the K1 series printers
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever Ай бұрын
I get that the SV08 was trying hard to meet a price point (and succeeded) but I think most users would have preferred to pay the difference for a big color touch screen from the start. I almost never use the interface on Klipper 3D printers because I send one off incidental jobs from PrusaSlicer via WiFi and I print production jobs from the Fluidd web interface browser page, where I also monitor the printer. This would be a good upgrade to make while replacing the noisy motherboard fan with a quiet Noctua fan.
@ldomotorsjason3488
@ldomotorsjason3488 Ай бұрын
It's alive! Great building. Can't wait to see cut some aluminum!
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs 28 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@DiggityDelights
@DiggityDelights Ай бұрын
Hello and thanks for the Video, I enjoyed it. It is always good when people share what they have learned with others. My friend recently purchased a Q1 Pro Nov 1, 2024. They have fixed all the issues that people mentioned previous to this time I believe. A big thanks to all of you early purchasers for working out the bugs for the rest of us. I used my friends Qidi Q1 Pro a few times now and it is the Ultimate ABS Printing Machine. It prints ABS like a Prusa or Bambu Lab prints PLA - Fast and Accurate. I am hoping to get one myself soon. Question for you: since you have taken your Q1 Pro apart some, what do you think about relocating the rocker switch for the power on-off around to the front side on the sloped underside under the door? It seems like the perfect place for it from a user standpoint. Wondering if it is safe from mechanical or heating interference and if there is enough wire to relocate it.
@rwebberpi
@rwebberpi Ай бұрын
Did you finish this build? I keep looking for the next episode.
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs Ай бұрын
I largely did. It is up and printing. I will be doing a "Print and Chill" episode where we will work with it, look at input shaper stuff, etc. And a video of my FIrst Impressions from the build. I needed to get the build done for a project so I had to stop streaming and just put my head down / finish. Sorry. Hopefully this Thursday will be the Print & Chill time.
@HomoSapiensMember
@HomoSapiensMember Ай бұрын
no usb-pd, why 200w, why rp2040; non-IP rated means its not travel ready packs into small form factor so it can be packed and stored away relies on outdated glass print-bed w/o heating bowden. no. ton of moving parts comment: reviewer states homing 'sensorless', immediately explains IR sensor-based why does it include rpi and pico - one is enough, in fact a single esp32 should also suffice open source: assumed there's mqtt onboard to integrate w/ home assistant/open hab or similar but haven't heard mentioned I'm concluding this is TRL 6 prototype with a nice polish, comes as a kit with lots of promising developments possible but a lot of ground to cover; I think the kit and merch w/ community backing will really help fund the project to iterate the design and release in faster cycles
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs Ай бұрын
Do you work with 3d printers or was this comment just written by a confused AI? This wasn’t a review. “No USB-PD” We said it could be done… “No IP rating” Why in the world would that be needed? No material is going to be happy printing in the rain and dirt. We explained that the glass IS HEATED. It is a unique see through resistive heater system. “Tons of moving parts” have you ever seen a core-XY 3d printer? The only additional parts beyond a typical one is the pivot for the Z axis to fold down. “Sensorless homing” is pretty universally understood to be X & Y homing only. Z Axis homing always uses some form of probing mechanism and/or endstop switch. There isn’t a 3d printer available with sensorless z homing. “Why a RP2040?” Because it runs Klipper firmware fast and well. It is ALSO an open source architecture… “Esp32” Ok, you could have started with that and I’d have known you had no idea what you are talking about. Absolutely ZERO 3d printers run ESP32s except for Wi-Fi connectivity. That’s it. “Home assistant” You can always integrate a Klipper powered 3d printer with home assistant. You don’t need an ESP32 for that. This was a wild ride of a comment. Thanks for giving me a chuckle as I read it over a few times trying to make any sense of it.
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs Ай бұрын
The 4 Plus has a developing issue with the SSR that controls the chamber heater. It seems to be able to massively overheat, with risk of combustion not out of the realm of possibility. Check out a bit more here: x.com/3d_musketeers/status/1851750002038583738?s=46&t=X5IWnwxycaPMfa3VMXKVhQ
@Kyle-dz9bm
@Kyle-dz9bm Ай бұрын
Sovol sells filament and makes a color matched blue PLA 👍
@arielmarshall5501
@arielmarshall5501 Ай бұрын
Am I right in thinking that they are planning to offer some kind of system for handling multi color prints (more than two materials) with their idex upgrade?
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs Ай бұрын
They have teased such a thing yes.
@TheNerdArmory
@TheNerdArmory Ай бұрын
7:41 i get these issues exclusively if i run cardboard spools without any plastic edges around them. If you run them bare it wears on your motors and has feeding issues. I don't like having to slip on plastic runners around them but when they glide easily, i never have the issues.
@dougphillips5686
@dougphillips5686 Ай бұрын
Ratrig core 4 IDX: $2653 + $100 Shipping Qidi plus 4: $800 free shipping I can buy 3 QIDI plus4 for one Ratrig With 3 Qidi plus4, I get 1.5x the output of the ratrig + redundancy and the ability to print 3different objects at once.
@MandicLabs
@MandicLabs Ай бұрын
Completely reasonable, BUT none of those 3 Qidis will print a 500mm object. Or even a 400mm one. Heck even a 310mm one. Going BIG costs money. There is a very distinct reason that the market is lacking in good 400+ MM machines. You start to run into serious logistical issues with shipping costs, box sizes, etc. The price increases EXPONENTIALLY as you get bigger. Do you NEED a 500mm machine? If not, then this isn't for you. If you DO, what else are you going to get?
@songhan1586
@songhan1586 20 күн бұрын
i got the plus 4 and the ratrig vcore 4 500 idex on order, they are for different purposes, ratrig will mostly print big multi material stuff, the qidi is mainly for 1 color stuff i'm printing in batches. different machines for different purposes.
@hedleypepper1838
@hedleypepper1838 4 күн бұрын
The same logic means for the $800 for the plus 4 I can buy 4 ender 3 v3 se and get redundancy and 2 x the output and print 4x as many models at once. 😮