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@MySpanky17 12 күн бұрын
I'll bet they use chinese boards.
@WilliamSquires-fc4kp 25 күн бұрын
Thank u bc i was just getting ready to get one ! Ill be looking at a different machine now.
@ChristineDugas Ай бұрын
Thanks so Much man!! I had the same problem, I have talked to miller, and 4 shops. they say its junk now.. That cheap piece of plastic they used for the torch........So dissapointed..
@_hector__ Ай бұрын
I heard great things about the fronius ignis 180 tig, its exactly like these but Im not sure if they have high frequency start You should look into them, a guy has been using his for 2 years near everyday on the field ESAB rogue 200 is another option and does have HF
@oldmarketforge9999 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the tips. Fronius is a Euro company and they’re growing in the US. I’ll definitely check them out. I’ve also thought about going with ESAB.
@chrisvillarreal6855 2 ай бұрын
Well hell you wanna sell one lol
@oldmarketforge9999 2 ай бұрын
Sure. I have 2 that are barely functional as a lift TIG and no ability to stick weld with them.
@chrisvillarreal6855 2 ай бұрын
How much you thinking
@oldmarketforge9999 2 ай бұрын
What are you planning to do with a broken welder? The parts alone cost more than the machine costs new.
@chrisvillarreal6855 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to try and fix it and maybe solve why it happens to the STH and maybe prevent it from happening again
@oldmarketforge9999 2 ай бұрын
You must realize what you’re saying is insane. Miller has known about the issues for 8? years? And you’re thinking you can troubleshoot for Miller to help figure out what’s happening? $2,000 and it’s yours. Shipping is not included.
@dameankelderman 2 ай бұрын
Where'd you get the finger switch from?
@oldmarketforge9999 2 ай бұрын
The machine comes with it instead of a foot controller.
@jasonchampion9932 2 ай бұрын
Arc captain 🤔🤷🏻♂️???
@flyinfr33domfreedom2 2 ай бұрын
I have a 161 s and i love it. The arc is super crisp and stable. It works as well as a larger machine (in a given power range obviously) Sounds like i make a good call not paying the premium for the stl model
@oldmarketforge9999 2 ай бұрын
I’m sure the 161 S is a good machine because it’s the simplest version. The 161 STH does, is supposed to do, way more capabilities than the “S” model. It’s apples vs apple pie with ice cream.
@Joseph-pd8ph 3 ай бұрын
Dose the 150 sth have the same issue?
@oldmarketforge9999 3 ай бұрын
My understanding is that the 150 STH was produced over 8 years ago. If it’s still functioning it should be fine.
@Joseph-pd8ph 3 ай бұрын
@@oldmarketforge9999 it work great just got it to learn how to tig with it, while doing research on it I came across this video and wasn't sure if there the same or anything like that but I appreciate your response back
@oldmarketforge9999 3 ай бұрын
@@Joseph-pd8phI’m glad you got an older machine. They are proven to work. Good luck with learning TIG. It’s relatively easy, just stick with it. My little piece of advice is that if you ever take a break from it, even for a few weeks or months, do some practice before jumping back in. And! With every change in material thickness, position!, material type, and machine, do some practice lines first. It’s easy to forget the specifics for each application.
@miguelmcclelland5306 4 ай бұрын
Is the miller stl good?
@oldmarketforge9999 4 ай бұрын
My understanding is that the STL is good.
@NCSCQ 2 ай бұрын
I literally just bought the STL and it's on the way. I started to have second thoughts. Hopefully it'll be fine.
@oldmarketforge9999 2 ай бұрын
@@NCSCQit’s a different machine. The STH has TIG high frequency, an additional board inside that is apparently the reason the STH fails. If you have any issues warranty wise in the first year or second, contact miller, they won’t do anything about it but at least you can make your case.
@thomaslang7634 5 ай бұрын
Most inverter machines have board issues.
@oldmarketforge9999 5 ай бұрын
Are you excusing the manufacturers for producing machines that break?
@jayquick6520 4 ай бұрын
This isn’t a cheap Chinese hobby machine. If most have issues like you said then why does that list include a $2,500 machine made by one of the most reputable companies in the industry? 95% of the inverter machines could be failing and that other 5% of the machines that last well after their warranty period should include this very unit.
@oldmarketforge9999 4 ай бұрын
@@jayquick6520sorry, I’m not sure what your point is. I’ve had experience with 3 of these machines Maxstar 161 STH and I’ve spoken with my local Miller warranty repair guy numerous times over the years about this particular machine as well as inverters in general, mostly Miller. My understanding is that the “cheap Chinese machines” are not that bad considering they cost a fraction of what Miller charges and they apparently last as long or longer than Miller inverters.
@thomaslang7634 5 ай бұрын
Get to the fucking point already.
@oldmarketforge9999 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’m sorry about rambling. I cut the video down from what it was originally. Obviously it wasn’t enough. Sorry I wasted your time, have a couple more drinks and you’ll forget about the video.
@AnthonyBaez-rw1iu 6 ай бұрын
After 3 machines and 5 years of using Miller you noticed they are Junk ?????
@oldmarketforge9999 6 ай бұрын
I know. I’m a slow learner.
@benjamincook6764 6 ай бұрын
anyone have experince with the maxstar 161S or how it fares against the 161STH? or are all maxstars junk
@oldmarketforge9999 6 ай бұрын
My understanding is that the 161S is a good machine. Which is crazy because when the STH breaks I can’t even stick weld with it.
@riggsyriggs4858 Ай бұрын
140 and 150 maxstar all models are great never fail with my 3. Had them 10 yrs to 17 yrs now. Rocker switch on the back was the only issues for me. I just hard wired it. 161 hours s junk get 150 if you can find them
@ToxiicZombee 7 ай бұрын
I'm literally learning how to tig with one of these. My welds are starting to get better. I found that it's best to keep ur torch at a lower angle and really try and be as sideways as u can be. I've been getting some rainbow welds and even the occasional yellow goldish welds. I keep my argon low around 15 psi
@oldmarketforge9999 7 ай бұрын
Nice! Keep practicing. The 161 STH is great until it breaks.
@ricardomontes373 7 ай бұрын
You lost me. If these are light duty welders and used for tacking hand rails inside finished homes, why do you have three?🤨
@oldmarketforge9999 7 ай бұрын
Well, first of all, when I had staff, we’d have multiple jobs going at the same time. Secondly, this was over a period of 5 ish years so I had to buy another after the last one broke and was unusable.
@7538ivan 7 ай бұрын
I use prime weld for sanitary welding and no problems 2 years and excellent
@oldmarketforge9999 7 ай бұрын
Thanks. They look like great machines. However, I don’t see a finger tip control.
@7538ivan 7 ай бұрын
@@oldmarketforge9999 yes the prime weld provides Finger control and foot control
@oldmarketforge9999 8 ай бұрын
I hear what you’re saying. It’s really sad that the best “American” brand doesn’t stand behind their increasingly shittier products. I honestly don’t know what you should buy. Others have commented on recommendations for machines that are a fraction the price of a Miller and are performing well beyond their warranty.
@Rellikman 8 ай бұрын
I bought a Miller 150 sth back in 2004. The high frequency died on me fresh out of the box. Had to rent a welder then got the welder back and used the welder 5 more times on separate occasions on small 1-3 day jobs and now it doesn’t work at all in 110v and just might still work in 220v. I’m told the welder is old and it’s a throw away, by multiple local techs and even the Miller tech. They don’t support these welders no more and they are very secretive on helping tech support with repairing. My welder belongs in a museum considering the condition it’s in. I am absolutely disgusted with Miller and the attitude that I got that these machines are just old tech throw aways. Why are we paying top dollar for these machines that are flakey?!!! Also unsupported with regards to circuit boards and parts… if I had a decent amount of wear and usage of this welder, the sentiment from Miller would be understandable but this is just not right!!! Do I get the Esab 200i Pro or something else?
@oldmarketforge9999 7 ай бұрын
I’m not sure what you’re saying is the point of my video. My 3 different machines were all purchased new and all experiences with them were less than 3 years from purchasing them new.
@oldmarketforge9999 7 ай бұрын
You should have a local authorized repair service that can help you understand your options.
@Rellikman 7 ай бұрын
@@oldmarketforge9999 I did!!!! They said Miller doesn’t support previous lines of their own product or offer wiring schematics to help local techs keep the older machines going. Not event firmware update support. Not just one local shop either, multiple approved shops!!! Who knows when they will introduce a new machine instantly turning your machines unserviceable.
@danielsplayhouse3804 9 ай бұрын
Give a primeweld Tig 200 for a change and see if they can out work the Miller. I'm running a Tig 225x which is not as portable as the 200 but it is going strong for me 2 1/2 yrs 8hrs a day.
@oldmarketforge9999 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation. Do you know if they offer a fingertip control instead of foot pedal?
@danielsplayhouse3804 9 ай бұрын
@@oldmarketforge9999 it comes with a finger trigger and a foot pedal I have my finger trigger on a air cooled torch for tacking.
@sskillie1 9 ай бұрын
Mine just stopped working mid weld. Won't power up. Power source is good.
@JohnSmith-lv8xk 10 ай бұрын
How about explaining what the issue actually was.....
@oldmarketforge9999 10 ай бұрын
I thought I did explain it as much as possible. I cut out a lot of the original video to make it much shorter… I’m sorry, I don’t know the technical details and terminology. Basically, there are 3 boards in the machine. Miller service doesn’t “repair” the boards, they replace them. I believe it was usually one of 2 boards that would go bad causing a loss of HF or an error that prevented the machine from working at all. Miller would send boards until the issues were resolved, Miller usually sent the cheapest board first and then the next expensive and then the most expensive.
@JohnSmith-lv8xk 10 ай бұрын
When the HF is not working does the lift arc still work ??
@oldmarketforge9999 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes. It seemed to depend on which board was bad whether the lift arc function would keep working or not. A few times lift arc wouldn’t work and a few times it would before I took it in to get serviced.
@oldmarketforge9999 10 ай бұрын
Are you a Miller employee?
@JohnSmith-lv8xk 10 ай бұрын
@@oldmarketforge9999 Nope, just curious, also in the video you never actually stated what the malfunction was. I watched it multiple times before my comment.
@vnohelix Жыл бұрын
Damn, almost bought this one. You saved me, thanks! Looking at ESAB 200 now. Also Tig HF start. Any experience with those?
@oldmarketforge9999 11 ай бұрын
I don’t have any experience with the ESAB 200. I’ve heard good things about it.
@vlatkokrklec8733 3 ай бұрын
Mine Esab 200 pro just broke after 7 month’s using HF,no gas comming out of machine
@muncast 14 күн бұрын
@@vlatkokrklec8733 yea i have the esab 205 ac/dc and is working but the welds are inconstant I’m having issues thinking on getting rid of it
@redcarone1341 Жыл бұрын
whats wrong with that lincoln precision tig
@oldmarketforge9999 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely nothing wrong with the Precision TIG from Lincoln. It’s about 5 years old and I’ve never had an issue with it. I use it frequently for TIG and Stick and I’ve never had any problems.
@magicmerlin1 Жыл бұрын
I was working in a new food processing factory(everything was stainless) that was being built near my house a couple years ago and there were tons of professional welders using a mix of the miller 151 and 161. I was looking for a tig so I asked several guys opinions and they said the same thing. Every one of them said do not buy the 161, they are junk. But they all loved the 151 and some of the 151 machines looked like they had been drug around job sites forever. Anyway, word gets around. You’re definitely not the only one having problems. Hopefully miller figures it out.
@oldmarketforge9999 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the second opinion.
@markfrak9827 Жыл бұрын
Hello sir does Stl have same issue? What would u recommend instead?
@oldmarketforge9999 Жыл бұрын
Hello Mark. I don’t think the STL has the same issue. The STL doesn’t have high frequency which seems to be the problem that Miller can’t resolve.
@EmilyBackPacker Жыл бұрын
This is sick! I’m hiking back to UGG this weekend and hoping to do Spearhead unroped. Looks pretty steep from your video, but maybe it’s intensified by the fish eye lens? How would you compare it to the final stretch on Long’s?
@oldmarketforge9999 Жыл бұрын
Hi Emily, the North Ridge of Spearhead is rated 5.6, it’s a technical climb. The keyhole route on Long’s Peak isn’t a technical climb, it’s a hiking route.
@sndspderbytes Жыл бұрын
Way harder! Spearhead requires the ability to climb 5.8 moves if you get a little off route.
@miguelangelayalariveraayal5243 Жыл бұрын
Es lo mismo con Lincoln hacen maquinas que no son sometidas a prueba de trabajo antes de salir al mercado y ya despues quieren solusionar los errores de fabricasion con cargo al cliente
@bernardocortez6543 Жыл бұрын
Estan dañadas las dos maquinas?
@oldmarketforge9999 Жыл бұрын
Si
@davidwilkinson1480 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I have been looking at that unit to do the same type of work that you described.
@oldmarketforge9999 Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. I’ve been meaning to post something like that for years. I kept holding out hope that they would resolve the issue with each repair.
@jonmarkclark Жыл бұрын
How did it break or what caused these to breakdown. How could you tell. Thanks
@oldmarketforge9999 Жыл бұрын
I would be using it and sometimes it would produce an error code but most of the time the high frequency would just stop working. The gas solenoid would start but no arc would initiate. Most of the time I could sort of scratch start an arc but that was just a temporary fix until I could get it to the warranty repair shop. Both machines are now just scratch start machines since they’re both out of warranty and it would cost more to fix them than buying a new machine.
@fleetwood9142 Жыл бұрын
How much to fix each one I was going to cave inn on the miller multimatic 255 ..
@oldmarketforge9999 Жыл бұрын
@@fleetwood9142 each time it was under warranty. They’re both not working properly and to pay to fix them would cost about as much as buying new ones. I haven’t heard much about the multimatic breaking. As long as it’s under warranty it’s should be free to fix.
@miamicanes561 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Fun_in_retrospect 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome pitch by bitch beta, exactly what I came looking for. Any advice for this? Especially with timing and the approach