haha yeah, 2 different bikes for sure. Purely coming at it from a learner perspective. The power the cb400 provides and the vtec bump is still provides a small climb in power and changes the exhaust note to sound more "beefy"

You could argue you dont need more than 125cc or about, 10hp. There are so many factors that go into speed, acceleration and safety. Engine displacement isn't the only factor. Can I cruise at 110km/h (the speed limit) on this bike? Yep. Can I do that on a 125cc bike? Yep. Is it more comfortable on a 1000cc bike? Maybe. Having owned dozens of bikes from 100cc to 1000cc, they all have their advantages and disadvantages. At the end of the day it is the riders choice how they use the power. Single-minded statements in all caps like this don't really contribute anything to the conversation. This bike definitely sits between the sweet spot of "not enough power" and "too much power" which I think is what you were trying to say.. but it ultimately, even that statement is subjective and depends on the application.

ALL I'M SAYING IT'S A GREAT ALL ROUND BIKE PLENTY OF POWER IT'S FUN WELL BALANCED GREAT SOUND FEELS BIGGER IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN A 1000cc THAT WON'T MATTER TO MY OPINION I AM SAYING THAT BIKE WILL BRING A SMILE TO ANY PRO BIKER OR NON PRO BIKER YOU REALLY DON'T NEED A BIG BIKE HOWEVER YOU FEEL YOU DO YOU COULD SAY THE 1000cc YOU HAVE YOU DON'T NEED A BIGGER BIKE AND ANOTHER COULD WRITE YOU STATING WHAT YOU WROTE ME STATING I HAVE A 1800 cc HOW VERY DARE YOU TELL ME I CAN'T RIDE MY 1800cc WHICH YOU ARE NOT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS YOU ARE HAVING GREAT FUN ON YOUR 1000cc THEIRS ALWAYS A WINGER ISN'T THERE

Honestly, it depends on the climate. At the time of this review I had ridden it in 15-25 degrees Celsius. Only once it got to 35 Celsius in summer and i got stuck in slow moving traffic did I feel it heat up. I could imagine in places like Singapore/SEA that it could be a problem year round.

Thanks! Did it many years ago now so glad you still got some value out of it. I ended up keeping it for about 2.5 years before moving into more of the ADV and dirtbike segment of the market but I jumped at the chance to rent one when I took a trip to japan a few years back. Definitely capable of handling any kind of riding you throw at it (except maybe offroad) and the reliability is godly in these engines. I'm now based in South East Asia there are many CB400s here with over 100k kms on them that still run like they are brand new!

@@dalediese Wow thats friggin awesome! Sth East Asia must be amazing for ADV riding 🤘 Mines got 18K on the clock, so shes got a way to go then! Everyone who's had one seems to love em and have big regrets and fond memories if they sold them. I'm heading to Bali or Thailand soon and hoping to come across some there!

That is a really good question actually. I've only ridden the CB650R for a short while but I can give some insight from my experience. Given that the cb650r is restricted for lams, the engine characters end up being somewhat similar between the two. Both weigh about the same. CB650R to me felt a bit more "sportier" - It _feels_ a little lighter handling-wise. This doesn't mean the CB400 feels dated though, it is still a great option even in 2023 and to me personally, has more "character". To me it honestly comes down to two things: cost to purchase and your preference on the styling. If you find a good deal on either then I think you would be happy. Can't go wrong with a Honda!

@dalediese thanks so much for your response, mate!!!! I'd buy the 650r new. I have come across some great examples of the cb400, which are still holding their value . (crazy right). which did you find more enjoyable? I keep thinking the 650 is a no brainer. modern, reliable, warranty, good looking etc, etc , but at the same time I can't wipe the cb400 . which you choose today man? new 650r or well looked after cb400?

@@cenzofrisina6517 So personally I would choose a cb400 over the 650r BUT that is purely an aesthetics choice. There is a huge piece of mind buying a new motorcycle and the warranty etc that comes along with that, especially if you aren't 100% sure what you are looking at when you are looking in the second-hand market if you are just getting into bikes. Last thing you would want would be a huge bill at the mechanics because something happens to your newly purchased second hand cb400. In saying that, the cb400s are notoriously reliable and especially in south east asia you see examples everywhere with well over 100k kms on them with zero signs of problems. Last thing I would say is that if at all possible, test ride both and see which one feels better. Let me know what you decide!

@dalediese legend ! thanks so much for the feedback mate. yeh ill be sure to keep you posted ! thanks again.

Yep. Hands are precious and hard to fix. And overtaking cars where there are double unbroken lines? Back to school, mate.

You are right. A 125 is perfectly fine for pretty much every use. I think my point was more *against* people buying bigger bikes as a first bike. I definitely have a lot to add to what I said in this video after owning 10 or so bikes since then and currently have a 110cc and a 150cc as my daily riders :D

@@dalediese Enjoy buddy, the love of motorcycles is like fever. Since I live in a poor country I'm planning to go out to canada or somewhere with good quality of life and buy a garage and fill it with all kinds of motorcycles ! I prefer cruisers that's my style. super bikes are cool and I'd like to have fun with It. but I'd love to have a harley sportster or honda rebel 500

I suppose it really depends on the model of bike. I would say from my personal experience with honda is they *may* have more "clunky" gearboxes in some of their bikes.. but they definitely soften up a bit over time. I personally think that clunk sound is very satisfying, better than some gearboxes where you feel like you are hunting for gears or occasionally find false neutrals between random gears. I'd say it's more of an engineering feature, rather than a flaw in the design haha.

I assume you don't know the conditions of this road. Let me explain my side (but you are entitled to you opinion either way). I was stuck behind this car for a long time going 30km/h-40km/h under the speed limit in a 60km/h. Laws in Aus are too strict at times. I waited patiently for over 10 minutes and then signalled for them to pull over quickly so I could get past but zero fucks were given. This stretch of road is straight with clear line of sight. Also I wouldn't always equate legality with safety. NSW is a prime example of an overpoliced state. I understand the point of laws is the not leave that decision up to the public but I believe I was acting safely in this scenario, even if a little impatient. You can disagree and that's cool but it happened 5+ years ago and I no longer ride this road unless I'm prepared to go 20kmh, stuck behind 20 cars. I just wanted to give my justifications which I still think are valid, even though I would do it differently today.

It's the bike I ended up buying and I absolutely loved it. I don't think I appreciated it enough while I owned it though. Highest quality finishes on any bike I've seen!