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@StefaanHimpe
@StefaanHimpe Ай бұрын
The visualization reminds me of "Truchet tiles". As for the music, I'd consider it a form of extreme minimalism: despite constant notes being played, there's no evolution in harmony, no real direction in the music. As a result, to me, it feels a bit like listening to a single chord for a very long time - not entirely my thing if I'm being honest, but it may work for others :)
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Ай бұрын
@@StefaanHimpe Thanks for your comment. Yes those are Truchet tiles but the pattern are generated by multiplication tables of groups. The music is very minimalistic, that is right :)
@Algoritmarte
@Algoritmarte Ай бұрын
Very nice!!! And the dynamics give it the right tension throughout the piece.
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Ай бұрын
Thanks for listening.
@Algoritmarte
@Algoritmarte 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting!!! Have you described the algorithm somewhere? The only thing is that the instruments are too "midi sounding". It would be interesting to render the same music with (heavily) synthesized/electronic instruments and effects (but perhaps it's not your objective/goal). If you want send me the MIDI recording of the music of the video (with same tempo) and I can try to see what happens adding some sound "craziness".
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. You are right, the instruments could be better with more work in a DAW. The algorithm for drawing the images is described here: www orges - leka de . Unfortunately the YT algorithm classifies my work as spam, so I can not post links to my own videos! Very crazy :-) . The music is from 030 Tour de force Algorithmic composition.
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. That would be a cool thing to do. Please feel free to send me short email at musescore1983 AT gmail DOT com. I do not have your email adress. I will send you the midi and am curious to see what you can do with this.
@kajito
@kajito 2 ай бұрын
It would be nice to know which curve belongs to which group =)
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 ай бұрын
the first 12 images belong to the a4 group. you can find those and others on my webpage orges-leka dot de.
@bewerbung9705
@bewerbung9705 2 ай бұрын
Bravo
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 ай бұрын
Rrofsh!
@sleepykiwi7
@sleepykiwi7 9 ай бұрын
This sounds really good!
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 9 ай бұрын
thanks
@bewerbung9705
@bewerbung9705 11 ай бұрын
Nice
@bewerbung9705
@bewerbung9705 11 ай бұрын
amazing
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 11 ай бұрын
thanks❤
@craia25
@craia25 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this piano composition is really impressive! It's great to see how artificial intelligence is used to create such beautiful music. Although the piece is more reminiscent of Mozart than Beethoven, it has a unique beauty. The technical implementation is impressive , although the sound still has room for improvement. I look forward to more of your work! 🎹🎵
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
thanks for listening
@schil_d
@schil_d Жыл бұрын
Hey I checked you out because of the comment you left and I sincerely vibe to this!
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
thanks
@schil_d
@schil_d Жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983 Hey, I looked it up. This is indeed playable after tons of study (Thank you again for the compliments ahahah, greetings from Italy!
@bewerbung9705
@bewerbung9705 Жыл бұрын
@Iloveelectronicmusic2
@Iloveelectronicmusic2 Жыл бұрын
This is very cool thanks for sharing ❤
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening.
@Algoritmarte
@Algoritmarte Жыл бұрын
Nice experiment (a human player would make it even more appealing). How are the notes calculated along the vertical line? I made similar attempts, but using the inverse FFT of the line, or more recently using a "moving" square.
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment and for listening. I create a bar for each rectangle. The raw pixels of the rectangle are transformed with PCA into natural numbers which I use as input to create the notes of the bar. Here is the code: github.com/githubuser1983/sonification_of_mona_lisa It currently does not create the mp4 because the ffmpeg does not work on my computer, but it creates midi and mp3. It is not documented though. Kind regards from Germany, [email protected], In case you want to exchange ideas on algorithmic composition.
@RelaxingSoundsOfElements
@RelaxingSoundsOfElements Жыл бұрын
This is a very wonderful and peaceful classic music composition - I really love it! <3 You won a new subscriber here :) Try to add transitions to your video loops to make your videos even better :) And keep up your great work! ;)
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
thank you for your kind words
@rasixa2653
@rasixa2653 Жыл бұрын
encouraging
@ЗахарБаранов-ы5ю
@ЗахарБаранов-ы5ю Жыл бұрын
Cool. Just started learning SC too :)
@zoexu3997
@zoexu3997 Жыл бұрын
Super cool. This melody reminds me of the sound track in pixel movie - Soul..
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words and for listening!
@bewerbung9705
@bewerbung9705 Жыл бұрын
Bravo
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
donkishot
@aleksdizhe
@aleksdizhe Жыл бұрын
Cool! Do you have a code of this?
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. There is a link in the description.
@sleepykiwi7
@sleepykiwi7 Жыл бұрын
Love it!
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
thanks for listening
@zitate2024
@zitate2024 Жыл бұрын
Cool 👌
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
thanks
@Algoritmarte
@Algoritmarte Жыл бұрын
Nice ... somewhat hypnotic!
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment and listening!
@Algoritmarte
@Algoritmarte Жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983 I also read the challenge on reddit, but it is unclear if there are rules on how to "transform" the formulas into a sequence of notes. For each k you get a N = p/q which is an approximation of PI, is it free to interpret such p/q as a note (or as a sequence of notes)?
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
@@Algoritmarte Yes, it is up to your musical interpretation.
@MrDanMaster
@MrDanMaster Жыл бұрын
can I add u on discord
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of doing so?
@MrDanMaster
@MrDanMaster Жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983 maybe write some music?
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDanMaster yes, you can add me for exchange of musical ideas, but I prefer to write "music" with python, and I am not sure if this is what you have in mind.
@MrDanMaster
@MrDanMaster Жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983 you got a tag?
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDanMaster to be honest i do not use discord or know what it is .. :-)
@Algoritmarte
@Algoritmarte Жыл бұрын
Very nice!!! What technique did you use? BTW the sound/effects/mix quality is poor, if you pay more attention to those aspects it could sound like a very good (minimalistic/ambient) song.
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I used a self developed technique, implemented in python, it is based on bezier curves (kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZuylKicobtpq68 source code: github.com/githubuser1983/algorithmic_python_music/blob/main/bezier_curve.ipynb ). The sound-effects are from LMMS as I felt it sounded good in my ears. It is intentionally bad - so to say.
@Algoritmarte
@Algoritmarte Жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983 Nice, I'll watch that video! (and if the mix is a conscious "lo-fi" choice, then it's fine)
@shawn3390
@shawn3390 2 жыл бұрын
💋 ᑭᖇOᗰOᔕᗰ
@ChrisJustinMusic
@ChrisJustinMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@StefaanHimpe
@StefaanHimpe 2 жыл бұрын
It took 3 seconds to recognize ;) But I won't spoil the surprise for other listeners :D
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
hahahaha I guess so, that it was not difficult.
@MrDanMaster
@MrDanMaster 2 жыл бұрын
I made a remix: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqLbkqCfnLJngJI
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@MrDanMaster
@MrDanMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Very postmodern. The tonal centre is harder to make out. Sounds jazz and hip-hop influenced.
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your comment
@vegardt3433
@vegardt3433 2 жыл бұрын
Intriguing!
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bewerbung9705
@bewerbung9705 2 жыл бұрын
Coole Idee
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
donkishot
@garaughty
@garaughty 2 жыл бұрын
Such a lovely, mesmerizing piece !
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for yor nice comment and words.
@DirkTomandl
@DirkTomandl 2 жыл бұрын
What algorithm or software did you use?
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment. I use the k-nearest neighbor algorithm with some scripts in python: github.com/githubuser1983/knn_music/blob/main/knn_music.py The method / algorithm to generate the music is described here: orges-leka.de/knn-music/Measuring_note_similarity_with_positive_definite_kernels.pdf I am experimenting with different algorithmic techniques but my background is more in mathematics not in music. May I ask what your composition style is, more algorithmic or do you compose by hand so to say? Kind regards form Germany.
@DirkTomandl
@DirkTomandl 2 жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983 Kind regards from the US although I grew up in Germany ;-) Some of my background can be found here: www.dirktomandl.com/ For my day job I am a scientist (Cheminformatics, AI/ML) in drug discovery. As a hobby composer I focus on classical music in a broad sense. I have used both algorithmic approaches as well as traditional techniques. For example, this playlist (kzbin.info/aero/PLbG6g-0Kt-BdgBGG9DjJ95cy-DbZ3-Wyp) includes piano pieces where I used AI as inspiration and idea generator. The actual compositions were created by me. I consider this approach a true man-machine collaboration. The playlist also includes a video where I explain my process. Recently, I released a piano concerto (kzbin.info/www/bejne/moDFfKendq90fc0) which did not use any algorithms whatsoever. I wrote it completely by hand. As an aside, it got recently performed as well as professionally recorded in a studio. I will post it on KZbin once it is finished. I believe your approach could be especially useful on a microscopic level, i.e., writing a few bars of a melody or filling details for a given musical phrase etc. What all algorithmic approaches so far are lacking is a sense of overall structure. Classical music often uses the so-called "sonata form". Pop music usually uses a verse/chorus form (ABAB) plus intro, outro, and bridges. In order to write "good" music an algorithm needs to understand the overall structure of its composition. For example, it needs to know if it currently is writing the verse or the chorus or a bridge in a song. Otherwise it will be just a sequence of random notes that don't connect with human listeners. "Good" music balances familiar with new: The main melody or theme often gets repeated or varied several times. Then something new happens and then it switches back to the familiar melody. In other words, "bad" music either repeats the same musical fragment over and over again or every note is new without any recognizable pattern. From an algorithmic perspective, I believe the most promising approaches are transformers that are capable in learning long-range patterns in music. Musenet from OpenAI is a good example and perhaps the best algorithmic composer that exists. Your approach could potentially postprocess and improve the music that comes out of transformers. But, again, the biggest gap is the lack of structure in all algorithmic composers.
@garaughty
@garaughty 2 жыл бұрын
Such a delicate, lovely piece !
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :-)
@karlosdergal
@karlosdergal 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Have a nice week!
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@karlosdergal
@karlosdergal 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive! Greetings from Mexico! 🇲🇽
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
thanks! 🙂
@karlosdergal
@karlosdergal 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! All my support and best vibes. here!
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for your comment and support!
@clement1181
@clement1181 2 жыл бұрын
??????? ?
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
What is this comment suppose to mean?
@GregHarradineComposer
@GregHarradineComposer 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting piece. I'm not sure I'm sold on algorithmic composition, but I'd be intrigued to hear this performed live.
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment. The source code is available, so it should count as algorithmic composition. 🙂
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
You migh also enjoy a shorter piece: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn7Lo3aYoLOhepY
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Greg, If you have contact to someone who would like to perform this live, you are welcome to share the score above the link. It would be nice, if you like, to keep me informed, as I am also courious how it would be performed live.
@GregHarradineComposer
@GregHarradineComposer 2 жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983 If I come across a group who I think would be interested in performing this piece I'll let you know.
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregHarradineComposer Thanks very much! :-)
@StefaanHimpe
@StefaanHimpe 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Is there any relationship between the circles and the voronoi cells? I kind of expected the circles to be located a the vertices of the Delaunay triangulation, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stefaan, The circles are the points for which the Voronoi cells are computed.
@StefaanHimpe
@StefaanHimpe 2 жыл бұрын
This looks good to me! Music visualization is an interesting field, and MIDI provides a much easier to interpret source of information than recordings. I'm looking forward to see what you come up with in the future.
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stefaan, Yes, midi is a rich source for music visualisation.
@vebgnx4513
@vebgnx4513 2 жыл бұрын
this is great! i have downloaded this code but after opening my command line i am unsure how to get it running on my mac? i am using python 2.7
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
I have not tried it with python2.7 and on mac. But you have to probably install some packages with pip such as scikit-learn, numpy. Furthermore you have to install with apt-get the sagemath and opencv for python. The shell-scripts with "example" in the name, should show how to use. Otherwise you can dm me: [email protected]
@bewerbung9705
@bewerbung9705 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that's awesome. Cool stuff 👍👌
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@abuaslanalturki4416
@abuaslanalturki4416 2 жыл бұрын
Sehr entspannend
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
danke!
@bewerbung9705
@bewerbung9705 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👌
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, my friend! ;-)
@BrianHagertyLawyer
@BrianHagertyLawyer 2 жыл бұрын
What role did Python play? What did you automate/script?
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for your comment. I wrote the script in python, with an algorithm I have developed to chose the arpeggios one after the other and the volume + durations of the notes. Then I put this score with different instruments in lmms by hand. May I ask what your background is, that you ask about python?
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
This other piece was done with the same method: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5DZanh4ac-EY7M
@BrianHagertyLawyer
@BrianHagertyLawyer 2 жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983 I am a music nerd and am learning Python. I'm interested in algorithmic composition.
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianHagertyLawyer If you are interested in the scripts, here is some similar script: github.com/githubuser1983/nice_sonification_of_oeis_sequences How it works, is described here: orges-leka.de/knn-music/Measuring_note_similarity_with_positive_definite_kernels.pdf
@wurnotantmlb
@wurnotantmlb 2 жыл бұрын
But what are the digits exactly? The chords or the melody ??
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
The sequence of the digits in base 10 determine how many nearest neighbor notes get appended in each step, after having defined a similarity of consonance between notes: orges-leka.de/knn-music/Measuring_note_similarity_with_positive_definite_kernels.pdf
@wurnotantmlb
@wurnotantmlb 2 жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983Thanks so much for that paper i really liked it. Still dont know exactly though, if the algorithm generates chords or not...Id say it does
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
@@wurnotantmlb Thank you for your nice words. You are welcome. I am working to include chords in the algorithm, which is not very easy because you have to compare multiple notes with one note etc. but I think I have a solution to this, which I can implement in the near future. As for the sounding: Since simple ratios as in chords are prefered by the algorithm, this might sound like a chord, I guess.
@wurnotantmlb
@wurnotantmlb 2 жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983 sorry about my terrible math understanding. I guess its all derived from the digits of pi. Maybe arranged a little, that sort of thing...thanks!!
@wurnotantmlb
@wurnotantmlb 2 жыл бұрын
@@musescore1983 I must apologize, I didnt listened to the piano very carefully the first time and I assumed it had chords but it doesnt...im really sorry!. But it was a good question either way. Im so much into pure data and couldnt be more interested about all this. You have earned a new loyal subscriber here!! Id really wish to know which software are you using if its not an inconvenience or anything. Thanks again!!
@hosseinjavidiniroomand
@hosseinjavidiniroomand 2 жыл бұрын
Nice and beautiful. Because inspiring and useful for me as a professional composer. Many thanks🤩 🙏
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for your kind words.
@vladymyrandryushchenko2050
@vladymyrandryushchenko2050 3 жыл бұрын
My applause! 👏👏👏👏👏
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Vladymyr, Thank you for your kind words. Greetings from Germany.
@StefaanHimpe
@StefaanHimpe 3 жыл бұрын
I hear some nice clashes between the major and minor mode. The resulting short dissonances attract the attention, almost like dew drops on a grass field :)
@musescore1983
@musescore1983 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stefaan for your feedback and for listening.