If it was going on for 41/2 years,my question is why did she continue to go to that church.even as a child if she yold her parents they should of stopped going to that church.
@jess685423 сағат бұрын
No sexual intercourse happened and to allow this to happen for 4 yrs to continue to see Mr. Morris looks to me she was and looking for the attention. Being very promiscuous and now trying to collect big money for it. God will deal with Mr. Morris but the church has nothing to do with his previous dealings.
@jenniewebb37423 сағат бұрын
She also conceived her first son outside of wedlock and only married the father 4 months before the birth. She is twice divorced and a vixen.
@poetry726015 сағат бұрын
You make me ill😢
@poetry726015 сағат бұрын
@@jenniewebb374Quit blaming her . 😢You are part of the problem.
@stjohnssoup14 сағат бұрын
He said it was an extra marital affair and he started to groom her before she was even 12
@stjohnssoup14 сағат бұрын
@@poetry7260they are evil like their father the devil
@nhgriff123 сағат бұрын
Why wait until he was rich and famous?
@poetry726015 сағат бұрын
Because NOW something will be done😮. Then, the false preachers could get away with their corruption 😢
@bert-cq3ij12 сағат бұрын
Such ignorance! Wealth had no bearing. All she asked for was reimbursement of her professional counseling...not a dime more. Your gray matter is wanting for smarts.
@bill6093Күн бұрын
Unbelievable. No life jackets.
@Mrs4everBlessedКүн бұрын
May God bless you Cindy. You had the courage to speak out and it doesn’t matter how long ago it was. You were an INNOCENT child! May God bless you as you continue to seek the Justice YOU deserve🙏🏽❤️
@ChiGuy1837Күн бұрын
Of course this is the Pastor Trump chose to be in his administration..You really think Trumpsters in TX care about what this dude did to a minor
@bert-cq3ijКүн бұрын
How terribly little you know, Chi. Trump didn't choose anyone, a large group of ministers from all denominations were "advisors" in matters spiritual. There wasn't any vetting, what makes you think there was? As a so-called "Trumpster" that you and other Dem muckers throw about, I know of no MAGA that is tolerating SA of ANYONE!!! So, Chi, crawl back into your cave and declare Hunter didn't have a laptop, that all Americans are beyond joy at all sky high prices that are killing them, and that Biden is sharper than a 2-edged sword. Only a pathetic Dem would insert Trump into Morris' shameful mess. You are so beyond pathetic!
@karenlong5622Күн бұрын
This is rape of a Child by a respected pastor, married for several years when the sexual abuse of the Child began.
@jerrylanglois7892Күн бұрын
Jimmy's a shining example of, '' no one has it made ''. Pulling for you, jimmy.
@glendapeglau4694Күн бұрын
I stand firm in my belief.. that mega churches are run by ppl who are greedy and NOT right with God !! Wolves in sheeps clothing..
@kmil4153Күн бұрын
not all of them not even most of them.. they're in small churches as well and every other aspect of life. That's why you have to watch your children and watch who you are exposing them to regardless of their reputation.. no matter where, especially in your own home
@poetry726015 сағат бұрын
@@kmil4153I don’t believe you.
@chrishill903Күн бұрын
I give that a 5- out of 10, not enough air for my liking and the rocks bearly moved
@phialdictator64932 күн бұрын
Get better poles.
@chrispybattyone59372 күн бұрын
joe biden at the wheel?
@Retrorick6422 күн бұрын
What kind of a person could stand on a stage and preach sexual morality to a nation, and behind the scenes he's diddling kids?
@casey25622 күн бұрын
Cool story
@denisecognata49702 күн бұрын
She now is speaking out after 42 year's!
@brucecindybernakevitch3263Күн бұрын
She spoke out years ago. How many times do you think a person should be punished for a sin? Rather how much peace, love and joy comes out of forgiveness.
@poetry726015 сағат бұрын
So what?!
@hanklohan2 күн бұрын
We all support you Cindy.
@ladyesther2 күн бұрын
It's so good to know the truth is finally coming out in these cases. Gives me hope.
@user-vl3ob1gr4t2 күн бұрын
After 40 yrs., something’s wrong here, it’s political Pastor Morris was President Trump’s advisor.
@bert-cq3ijКүн бұрын
What does Trump have to do with the SA of a child? Oh, I see, you're a Dem Biden-loving bobblehead. Trump had a group of men/women ministers of ALL denominations...he didn't pick any of them, all volunteered. How do I know? My fellow pastor-friend was one of them. He was never personally selected by Trump. You owe all truth-seekers an apology...we're waiting!
@jess685423 сағат бұрын
Everything! Why do you think it’s coming out now on this election year when they’re bring everything even so slightly that has to do with Trump!!!
@poetry726015 сағат бұрын
@@bert-cq3ijHe is a paid for puppet of the most dishonest con men in history and his judgement is coming and all the sleezy defenders who don’t believe in consequences, paid for or not , will go down with him like the other self promoting politicians.
@martawerth1622 күн бұрын
I know, sister. It takes yrs... So grateful you spoke out!
@juliecarveth98022 күн бұрын
If she was an innocent child why did it go on for 4 1/2 years? I’m very Leary of women of come out of the wood work from over 30 or 40 years to accuse
@ladyesther2 күн бұрын
Um, I think you are blaming the victim. That is not the right way to look at this. Would you say that to your daughter?
@iamanovercomer32532 күн бұрын
@ladyesther that person is NOT blaming anyone, they have a valid point, AFTER 4 DECADES, this story comes to the surface ❓️ If I was on the jury , I would have a hard time believing that. And if it was my daughter, well I won't answer that
@MaryGlory-ub5tp2 күн бұрын
She did speak out multiple times but no one listened. She told the church years ago but nothing was really done.
@abbyq46262 күн бұрын
Often times sexual assault trauma comes out much later in life. My sister is dealing with such abuse when she was very young, and now 63 yrs old.
@jenniewebb3742 күн бұрын
@@MaryGlory-ub5tp he offered to make the matter public in 2005 when she tried to extort $$$.
@oacfilms2 күн бұрын
Great Video
@4thetruthalways5312 күн бұрын
God is starting to bring judgment on the world and He says that judgment starts at the house of God, so be expectant of this.
@bert-cq3ij2 күн бұрын
I guess God the Father, Jesus the Son, the apostle Paul and other disciples weren't godly either? They all showed profound righteous anger at blatant/willful/destroying sins. As a former chaplain, I have experienced for decades the horror, agony, suicidal tendencies, numerous divorces, PTSD, and hopelessness of abused women and victims of rape...their rage and feeling like thrown-away trash. My anger is totally justified. Yet, you judge with insults towards the victims and those that are angry at such profound ignorance. I totally doubt your posted past...so high-brow.
@brucecindybernakevitch326311 сағат бұрын
As a counselor you didn't know the importance of forgiveness? Remember Ephesians 4:29-31 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Forgiveness is the answer to healing.
@screechingwind1142 күн бұрын
Southern Preachers teach the Congregation to Rape and Blame ...same old same old.
@bert-cq3ij2 күн бұрын
Where is your video (with sound) to throw mud on "Southern Preachers"? I know, you "lost" them, right? Morris is profoundly guilty but so is your post.
@screechingwind1142 күн бұрын
@@bert-cq3ij look up bobby leonard on KZbin. I also heard the same thing when I visited a church in Virginia back in the 70s...they are Child Predators and the Congregation did not rebuke the pig.
@bert-cq3ij2 күн бұрын
@@screechingwind114 Oh, I see...the internet is the ultimate bastion of truth? But, if proven true, that would be shameful, very shameful. Provide the link so I can research it.
@themysteryofgod84092 күн бұрын
@@bert-cq3ij we know Robert is guilty, he admited it.....but "prove all things" is definitely needed in this case.....Cindy is being taken at her word as though she is above being capable of distorting the true story.... and, as usual, Christian busy bodies are willing to jump on board with her even though they don't know her personally or have not been given carefully researched facts....
@bert-cq3ij2 күн бұрын
@@themysteryofgod8409 Mystery, let's turn this the other way for it is common sense. $$$$ has all the power: lawyers, smear machines, the bought and paid for gossips, air brushing or grossly twisting the facts so they become lies. Morris quickly lawyered up, Gateway's elders grabbed their lawyers too, what "BIG MONEY" is backing the victim??? All financial hell is dumping on her and many a goon is actively spreading this or that gossip to destroy her. After all, smear her into submission and Morris gets a ticker-tape parade back to his Gateway pulpit. I'm sorry you haven't seen this before. Politics are overwhelmingly alive and well in many a church. Make waves with the open truth and one gets a firing squad by the pastor/elders and the "innocent" pastor keeps his position. Isn't it obvious why believers in Christ are leaving churches in droves? Jesus railed against religious politics everywhere he went. For over 2,000 years the Jews have never admitted the truth about what happened to Jesus and why. But, it's not about the Jews, it's about the human sin condition. As a retired pastor/chaplain, I'm glad to be done with the secret lies and power of the higher-ups.
@jenniewebb3742 күн бұрын
She's a vindictive, vengeful woman.
@bert-cq3ij2 күн бұрын
You must work as an aide to Morris with such an all-knowing sewage.
@jenniewebb3742 күн бұрын
@@bert-cq3ij You seem nice. No.
@bert-cq3ij2 күн бұрын
@@jenniewebb374 I see you still show no shame on your previous post. I have been a chaplain for victims of sexual/spousal abuse. You are clueless on the agony such endure. Your judgments are pathetic.
@jenniewebb3742 күн бұрын
@@bert-cq3ij you don't speak like a Godly man. I have no shame to show. I was also abused but I didn't make a public show of the abuser 25 years later.
@gunitkjkp4702 күн бұрын
Why now?
@claudiayutko84403 күн бұрын
Money, money, money.
@donnainmt3 күн бұрын
I'd be willing to guess the democrats are behind this! She's done nothing substantial in 40 years, it's an election year, and now President Trump is tied into it. Funny, no one has mentioned Biden & his daughter!!!
@mariekrolly52492 күн бұрын
HAD SAME THOUGHTS SWAMP HERE $$$$$$$
@rachaelnuchols7643 күн бұрын
Email for money???? Why didn't the parents do something AT THE TIME??.. since they knew....?
@louisejack95413 күн бұрын
Why wait so long ,God is great to heal
@nontlahlantantiso69262 күн бұрын
Money is the reason for the wait
@jenniewebb3742 күн бұрын
@@nontlahlantantiso6926 she doesn't want to heal. She wants to hang on to bitterness. She is vengeful.
@familycoats95083 күн бұрын
As a mother of eight, 8, children and four of them girls I can not understand how a mother and father that found out about the abuse of their daughter did nothing to make sure that justice was done on behalf of their daughter! She was still a child!!! I DO NOT care that he was a pastor and he said he was sorry and that he repented!!! Justice had to be served!!! If a pastor had committed murder in the heat of the moment and then he repented he would STILL have to be tried for the murder!!! There are consequences to SIN!!! NOW in saying all of this it seems to me that Cindy Clemoshire was a victim at 12 years old that should have been protected by her parents and by the church!!! Now as an adult her motives are very suspicious!!! I will explain WHY!!! The abuse happened from 1982 - 1987. So from 12 years to 17 years of age she was abused. In 1988 she turned 18 years old and became an adult and then she should have gone to the police to get justice for herself because the adults in her life did Not do it! When she saw that Robert Morris was still a pastor and was not being held accountable that is when she should have gone to the police!!! Instead in 2005 when she was 35 years old she tried to take MONEY from him for what he did to her and ended up with nothing! He refused to give her any money! THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HE COULD HAVE GIVEN HER THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN AWAY THE PAIN AND THE MEMORIES OF THE ABUSE HE INFLICTED ON HER, NONE!!! So why NOW after ALL THIS YEARS at the age of 54 years does she reveal what happen to her when she was 12 years of age, WHY NOW!?!?!?!
@donnainmt3 күн бұрын
I totally agree!
@FoodieQueenBee2 күн бұрын
Great point! Nobody knows much about this case. If money is not the motive why she would try to black mail him back in 2005. Im not saying Robert Morris is not guilty, he definitely is guilty for what he did.
@BobbyTaylor-io1od2 күн бұрын
She was threatened!!
@amo22112 күн бұрын
@@BobbyTaylor-io1od I am not sure about that... she didn't mentioned being threatened and I see people twisting what she said as threat.
@BobbyTaylor-io1od2 күн бұрын
@@amo2211 she was threatened by morris, it is all over the place everywhere. She was abused on Multiple levels, not just sexually.
@lindaannshelley70883 күн бұрын
Morris you are a Pedi, 12 to 16 yrs old victim!!!
@brucecindybernakevitch32633 күн бұрын
Cindy Clemenshire, you said you forgave Robert Morris. That is not true. I was sexually abused when I was eight. I hated my sexual abuser for years, even after becoming a Christian I struggled to forgive. My unforgiveness caused me to sin in many ways, and it caused a bitterness in my heart. Finally, when I turned 40. I went on a quest for healing. First I tried group therapy, but it hit a dead end. Then I tried counseling, but I quickly backed away from it. I realized that I could not trust any counselor. I asked Jesus to be my counselor, and so He did. I found that Journaling gave me a way of communicating with the LORD. The reason nothing worked until I turned to Jesus for help, is that He knew I needed desperately to forgive my abuser, and He led me to do it in such a way, that I felt love and compassion for my abuser. Hatred was gone and I prayed for his soul. Yes child sexual abuse is terrible, but it, like any other sin, it is forgivable. And I would warn someone against unforgiveness. It leaves you vengeful and in danger of judgment yourself.
@LoriArnoldBunnyETR3 күн бұрын
You have no idea the condition of Cindy’s heart and whether she has forgiven her Molester. Forgiveness does not mean a victim cannot seek justice or tell others of the abuse. You seem to be equating forgiveness with being silent.
@lisabrooks8443 күн бұрын
@@LoriArnoldBunnyETR I agree! Evil prevails when good men do nothing!
@kelleyturner22383 күн бұрын
Read your bible. David committed a sin he repented, and God forgave him because he had a true heart of repentance. However. David had to pay for that sin because he knew well what he did in committing adultery and God told him so. God told him 2 Samuel 12:10"Because of this sin you committed, the sword will not leave your house" David's child he conceived out of adultery died, his son raped his own sister and one brother killed another. So, what I am saying is God is a just God he is fair in every way. There are consequences to blatant sin. Jesus warned us about wolves in sheep clothing and this is exactly what this was. Even Rm wife knew and she shamed a child. However just like Rm shamed this woman when she was a child. God has shamed Robert Morris and his wife because she went along with the sin knowing this was a child. This shaming his whole family. How sad and you are also trying to shame her for telling the truth and having the courage to do so. Now there is a investigation in regard to all who knew about this child being molested as it should be. People in the church need to stop being foolish because they will not make it into the kingdom following false pastors. God is waking his people up he wants this false teaching and manipulation to stop. God is loving kind and merciful He gave is only son. However, he is also righteous.
@donnainmt3 күн бұрын
@LoriArnoldBunnyETR apparently you don't understand "forgiveness" or that we serve a just God. If she would have forgiven and given this to God to seek justice, I guarantee there would have been justice in this long ago.
@LoriArnoldBunnyETR3 күн бұрын
@@donnainmt So victims should just shut up and trust God to reveal the pedophile’s crimes? That is asinine.
@mackiehall64283 күн бұрын
Put him in prison
@amo22113 күн бұрын
And the father who didn't report him. He is accountable of hiding a crime! The father hid this from authorities.
@LivNoTByLyes3 күн бұрын
Notice the media has to tie everything to Trump....idiots!
@donnainmt3 күн бұрын
Exactly what I thought! They never let an opportunity go to waste, but justice will soon be coming to them?
@margueritaharris24243 күн бұрын
Why does this surface in election year?
@dc29303 күн бұрын
repentance has been done already by Pastor Morris and God uses anyone that repents. The child's father did not press charges because his daughter was also complicit and wanted to save her reputation. Any child know what is being done is wrong. ANY 12 yo tell a friend that is a girl to stop such an act. She did say no to intercourse in the car so why not say no to going to the car or being anywhere alone 365days x4?? I hope the child now a woman realized her deep lack of peace with this is because no one has heard HER say she was responsible as well. It is a sad story. Morris told her father even though he was found out (it does not matter as long as repentance comes) and his wife. The father did not take it further bevcause he knew his daughter was a willing party. God used MOSES who did a cimininal act of murder. WHY does this lady need to know WHO KNEW when people were equally protecting her. This seems very disordered.
@kelleyturner22383 күн бұрын
Wow you are as sick as his wife. Robert Morris is not a pastor a Pastor is a shepherd and watches over the sheep. The sad thing about it many people think they know The Most High and His son and have no Idea of who He is and how works things out. She was 12 years old you are still a child. Moses act was to save his people this is why he killed that man however Moses was in the desert for years before God brought him to save his people because he knew Moses loved his people and would be obedient after he chastised him. You see God is just. Robert M and his wife shamed this child in secret however God has now shamed him and his whole family for the whole world to see. Look at all the pastors who have been exposed within the last 4 weeks. You are so weird and perverted to blame a child this is what molester's do. Unbelievable you can't make this stuff up
@jenniewebb3742 күн бұрын
Do you know this from knowing Cindy? Quite interesting and I believe you.
@1QYITSTORM3 күн бұрын
Katt Williams said people will be EXPOSED THIS YEAR!
@dustingrant20623 күн бұрын
Great video channel 9 josh is a beast at what he's done
@pamelaryan27793 күн бұрын
What a strong woman!!!
@brucecindybernakevitch32633 күн бұрын
Hatred makes you look strong. Forgiveness makes you strong.
@donnainmt3 күн бұрын
@@brucecindybernakevitch3263very well put!
@jenniewebb3742 күн бұрын
@@brucecindybernakevitch3263 she's smug and vindictive.
@sirstrong1st3 күн бұрын
Anybody who associate themselves with Trump tends to be of the criminal element.
@robynboone82563 күн бұрын
That's your opinion. But ignorant one.
@Runner86173 күн бұрын
AMEN! EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. If only people knew how evil he is and all politicians! 😳
@Runner86173 күн бұрын
It's like the blind are leading the blind! 🤦 God help us all.
@jrb2813 күн бұрын
@@robynboone8256rapist literally running for president...yet you are still defending these losers. Protecting children is more important than politics. Use your brain and moral compass.
@donnainmt3 күн бұрын
@@Runner8617perhaps you need to do some self-searching.
@rosaleewiegand6163 күн бұрын
Sorry but there’s no innocent child at 13.
@jrb2813 күн бұрын
I'm assuming you're on a list.
@bert-cq3ij3 күн бұрын
Please take a long walk off a short pier...you're stinking up the human race with your shameful post. And, by the way, she was 12 and not 13...you clearly count and well as you think, which isn't much! Go ruin some other posting site, here we post with rightful/critical thinking and compassion...the ignorant need not apply.
@donnainmt3 күн бұрын
@@bert-cq3ij I believe the point was that she kept getting in the car with him until she was 16 or 17. And she kept threatening to tell if he didn't continue. But they aren't revealing that part. Praise God, he broke, and that ended the physical part!
@c.eb.12162 күн бұрын
Sorry you think that.
@jenniewebb3742 күн бұрын
@@donnainmt how do you know this? Do you know her?
@otaku15243 күн бұрын
Well, even tho' statute of limitations expired, TDS never expires. Why Trump's name shows up!
@peacemama49573 күн бұрын
Exactly! What does Trump have to do with this???
@jrb2813 күн бұрын
@@peacemama4957well trump hired him and trump is a rapist too. They have A lot in common. Rape is bad here in the real world.
@melissadeloach85033 күн бұрын
Trump + election year is the reason this story is coming out now instead of 35 years ago. Would never be made public otherwise.
@kelleyturner22383 күн бұрын
@@melissadeloach8503 Please stop worshipping a man. Its a sin
@donnainmt3 күн бұрын
@@kelleyturner2238who is worshipping President Trump? The point is he's GOD'S chosen. We are choosing him, just like the Israelites chose King David, another one of God's chosen. Big difference between worship and choose.
@chapmans843 күн бұрын
what did her parents do? why did they not press charges?
@kelleyturner22383 күн бұрын
The father wanted too however the church talked him out of it. They removed Rm from the church and sent him somewhere else. Some of these church are like cults God is exposing this for His people to come out of false churches. We are to be holy and righteous
@claudiayutko84403 күн бұрын
@@kelleyturner2238you can pretend you are but God knows the heart of all man and knows that it is evil. If you say you don't send you are lying. This was how long ago? Remember when David committed adultery with Bathsheba and had her husband killed? God forgave him after he repented. So you all better stop judging. You don't know, I don't know the whole story but God does.
@iamanovercomer32532 күн бұрын
@kelleyturner2238 bottom line as a father and husband I'm the one responsible for my wife and children. My wife's old pastor (her and I just got married) started to correct my wife while I was there and I rebuked the pastor, telling him that she's my responsibility from now on, she doesn't answer to him anymore ‼️
@bert-cq3ij3 күн бұрын
You just couldn't help yourself, bringing up Trump. He is not the story, Morris and the victim are!
@rosaleewiegand616Күн бұрын
Why she had to wait 35 years???
@bert-cq3ijКүн бұрын
@@rosaleewiegand616 News flash: more than once she approached Morris' church but got the BIG-$$$$ stiff arm. Rosalee, when was the last time you spoke up to a multi-million dollar institution with loyal elders, lawyers on speed dial, and a "humble" ego-maniac leader? I bet you haven't and most likely won't.
@poetry726015 сағат бұрын
@@rosaleewiegand616I am more interested in why these celebrity pastors have several times let down their congregation. Such a simple troll trick to divert attention. Trick of the tail in fact. Are you really on God’s side? Or just a paid propagandist?😮
@islandgrl73463 күн бұрын
Why would you bring up President Trump? How is that even relevant to this story about the victim? You’re obviously trying to cast shade on President Trump even though THOUSANDS of people had NO IDEA what this pastor had done. Yet another mainstream news channel spewing disgusting propaganda garbage. Do better.
@buckobango3 күн бұрын
He said that he looked for girl(s), plural! How many more will come forward?
@tobberfutooagain26283 күн бұрын
What? Diddlin the debutants? Thats just wrong….
@wbooker57233 күн бұрын
You just have to put Trumps name in there. It has nothing to do with him.
@maryricketts73373 күн бұрын
Agree!
@lidavos21183 күн бұрын
Yes i agree!!!'
@kelleyturner22383 күн бұрын
You are worshipping a man. Who is trump compared to God. Focus on Jesus if you can.
@claudiayutko84403 күн бұрын
@@kelleyturner2238TDS much. No one worships Trump. Get real.
@iamanovercomer32532 күн бұрын
@@kelleyturner2238😂🤣 sadly you were one of the 60 MILLION " christians " that voted for a baby killer, traitor, someone who has no idea what is going on, and said that it's ok for men to go into women's restrooms and locker rooms ‼️
@richellepeace44573 күн бұрын
What took her so long? She was an adult who knew what was happening and kept quiet for her own well being. She is complicit in any victims that he made after her.. Why now? She's not just a victim she is an enabler...
@dawnzimmerman68183 күн бұрын
@richellepeace4457 ~ she did report it to her Pastor Dad back in 1987 who took it up the church elder board. There is a list of things both Cindy the victim-survivor has done over the years.
@jenniewebb3742 күн бұрын
@@dawnzimmerman6818 Hmmmm ... what is that list?
@brendaclark80533 күн бұрын
Why after 40 years ???????
@peacemama49573 күн бұрын
Do your research. She's not been silent. She's been vocal to many church leaders Morris was affiliated with for years and they all turned a deaf ear.
@cheerstogoodhealth3 күн бұрын
@@peacemama4957 If your stuff gets stolen it's your duty to call the police
@bobdenver8093 күн бұрын
It’s time to cash in the chips
@iamanovercomer32532 күн бұрын
@@peacemama4957go outside the inner circle then ‼️