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@UpAndRunning-xz6er Ай бұрын
I home made a simple alteration to allow a simple and inexpensive paper oil filter to be fit to the bottom of the oil in frame tube. Added a magnet and it works very well. It all looks stock and filters much better than the old metal screen. All these external connections make me nervous.
@UpAndRunning-xz6er Ай бұрын
After riding a Triumph 750 for over 40 years, l can tell you that these bikes stretch chains. I can never get more than 3000 miles out of a chain. No matter the brand or type.
@relph3 Ай бұрын
I was getting about 3000 miles use from my t140 drive chains too. I expect to get at least double that with this DID X-ring fitted. I have, at the time of writing this, used the chain for nearly 2000 mile with absolutely no signs of wear at all. Next time you change your chain, get the same DID X-ring I have fitted, you won't regret it. BTW... I have also got a ZX6R it is a 1997 F3.
@paulwild8556 Ай бұрын
So, I’m particularly interested to hear how this modification is working for you. I would love to install a filter before the pump as you have. But I’ve read that it is a bad idea. Can you share how the filter is working out for you?
@lorimcquinn3966 Ай бұрын
I purchased a new 1979 T140 and my bike had a carburetor mounted choke assembly, accessible from left side. You pressed down a single lever until it clicked. Once bike was started, you flipped the lever back to level position. My bike was a US model. The only failure I had was the Luca Rita electronic ignition. It left me one night although I was able to source a used one at local dealer for 1/2 price. I had Fox shocks on my mine with the 70-100lbs rear spring installed, rode and handled very well. I ran the original K81-T100 tires f&r and liked them. I used progressive front fork springs along with a Progressive o-ring replacement, which was basically a fiber, square faced ring that slid easier than the o-ring. The combo with different oil really made a difference in front end suppleness. Good luck w/ your bike, mine was one of the top (3) bikes I've owned, once sorted.
@Supersmalls1980 2 ай бұрын
Just bought one of these and 1st ride out the steering has a mind of it's own. Hard to turn in and then when it does i can't get it back out.
@relph3 2 ай бұрын
Sorry to learn you are not happy with the steering of your bike. I still own my bike and, apart from the steering stop to stop not being the most generous, the steering works very well as does the handling of the whole bike. There are loads of things to check on your bike before chucking the towel on it i.e. Head bearings, Tyre (pressure, wear, type), suspension setup, etc, etc. Also, see if you can get a go on another Tuono of similar model for comparison. I did not like the seating position of my bike when I first bought it so I changed the seat to the later 1100 model. Good luck and keep me posted.
@Zulutime44 2 ай бұрын
Check out the original Smiths instruments on my T140. 7k miles on the clock plus 50 years of same owner, and both Speed and RPM work perfectly, including the little light bulbs inside. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6GZo4hmr5pnj7c
@robthoreson8384 2 ай бұрын
I use the paper filter in the sump like many others but also MAP's return filter as well. One good thing about having the return filter is that any clutch swarf or material that makes its way to the engine crankcase has to go through the return filter before returning to the sump. I think the copper tubing looks cool but remember that copper work hardens over time and on a bike that is known to shake a bit you could have some potential cracks form as well. If tubing was a necessity, i'd go with stainless tubing or similar.
@anthonydavey157 2 ай бұрын
A good review. Background music not required.
@gren509 2 ай бұрын
BIG MISTAKE !!!! Oil filter is always on the return side: 1) it's a higher capacity pump. 2) if it's on the feed side the pump has to suck oil through it, which it's not good at, and you can get cavitation = no oil. 3) when the filter get's restricted with deposits the engine will be starved of oil !
@gren509 2 ай бұрын
Great work. How did you get the head so clean, it's amazing ! I assume the rectifier is off a modern Jap.. which one ?
@yogiguitar1 2 ай бұрын
she's sweet as m8
@RobsRidesPA 2 ай бұрын
You are adding to much of a restriction for your oiling system. The stock oil pump is not designed to pull oil through that much of a restriction. Very bad idea to do this mod to your engine. Please don't anyone else do this.
@Bmac3474-z9c 3 ай бұрын
Nice motorcycle it looks like it's new you take very good care of it
@edgarespinosa646 3 ай бұрын
this is the best comparation! greetings from Mexico
@rickconstant6106 3 ай бұрын
How did you deal with the length? It should have a half-link to give the right length, otherwise you will run out of adjustment very soon.
@relph3 3 ай бұрын
I'm running a 43 tooth rear. Stock is 47 tooth which uses the half link. Although I'm sure it's possible to fit a chain with out the half link anyway. The front sprocket on my bike is a stock 20 tooth.
@rickconstant6106 3 ай бұрын
@@relph3 You've had a chance to run it for a while now - have you had any clearance issues? I thought about it, but decided against it because of that (my T140V has standard 47 tooth rear, so I would need the half-link, anyway)
@stanscroggins5523 3 ай бұрын
Did you paint the frame ? It looks very nice ! If you did what type of paint did you use? Beautiful bike. I have a 77
@bigtime474 4 ай бұрын
I had a 1973 750 Tiger where are you?
@roybatty2030 4 ай бұрын
I fitted the Mana bar risers to my 2013 Tuono and later switched them to my 2016 Tuono. With a bit of jiggling the master cylinder and brake hose route, I avoided having to get a new hose.
@harmenkouwenhoven6252 4 ай бұрын
For years I m driving with a paper type oilfilter in the bottom off the oilframe ....easy cheap and clean fitting......
@awetaiwan 4 ай бұрын
hehe.. less music, more Nuda pipes next vid.. but good human bein in that van man!
@blackbirdxx4613 4 ай бұрын
Why change all that stuff 😂😂😂😂
@devimead750 5 ай бұрын
All of these oil filter kits have to be fitted to the return, as it will not work on the feed.
@devimead750 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully you haven't changed the oil flow through the oil filter, as it will not work on the feed. All of these oil filter kits have to be fitted to the return.
@MrPSYCHO66 5 ай бұрын
Are you the chap from Congleton way, if so met you at beartown dos , got the 78 twany brown
@relph3 5 ай бұрын
Yes,, That's me. was it you who was at the "Gawsworth Jesters" do at the Harrington Arms, Bosley yesterday evening, asking about the centre dial I have fitted to my bike?
@davidbowker8889 5 ай бұрын
How do you get the battery holder out? You can't get the battery in with the holder in place.
@kayak1100 5 ай бұрын
Copper can " work harden "
@THROTTLEOLOGY 5 ай бұрын
I’m reading on forums that this will starve the engine of oil How’s it been so far?
@rickconstant6106 5 ай бұрын
There are a couple of modifications I would recommend, having done them to my 78 T140V, which I've had for 31 years. The first is to replace the original 5/8" bore front master cylinder with a 13mm bore version. It fits in as a direct replacement, with all the same fittings, but gives a much better feel to the front brake, and 50% more leverage, effectively. No dearer than the standard size, and fairly widely available. The other is a permanent solution to the exhaust downpipe leaks. I had the exhaust ports machined to take the screw-in stubs, so that i could fit the clamp-over type downpipes. It gives a solid mounting, and no more exhaust gas leaks.
@nathgreen787 5 ай бұрын
@relph3 hey mate great video just did mine it was bad thanks heaps but quick question on the brake side of rear wheel is there a spacer between wheel and brake setup? like the one on chain side that sits between wheel and swing arm not sure if i lost mine or if im loosing my mind
@relph3 5 ай бұрын
If you have lost a spacer on the brake side, between the wheel and the calliper mounting bracket. It sits in the the dust seal of the wheel up against the bearing. You will have lost it because you left it in when you took the wheel out of the swing arm, after which It dropped out unnoticed. This happened to me and I had to buy another.. If it is the this spacer the part number is H7653136. shop.italhusky.com/en/products/2012/nuda-900-900r/rear-wheel-132 This spacer is the same as the 2017 BMW f800R Part number 36 31 763136 www.bike-parts-bmw.co.uk/bmw-motorcycle/F%20800/2015/F_800_R_17_-0B54_0B64_/K73-0B54-0B64-/Wheels-and-tyres/Cast-rim-rear/7/36_2150/36/590140B54
@lesjones7617 6 ай бұрын
Top of the oil filter housing is very close to the bottom of the swinging arm??
@OldBiker 6 ай бұрын
If you use semi synthetic oil but have not replaced the sludge trap and flushed all the oil ways you are asking for trouble, the synthetic oil uses a detergent which carries the dirt around with it and breaks down the existing sludge, so if any chunks of that sludge break away from the sludge trap it will be carried down and block the oil way to the big ends and you'll know about that when it happens. Nice bike though, what we the jets and slide # used in the carbs?
@relph3 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I get what you are saying about using modern semi or fully synthetic oils having the ability to loosen and keep in suspension the crud which used to build up in the engine and sludge trap. It is a risk using such modern detergent oils especially not knowing the service history of the bike etc. In my case I have had the clutch cover off and the rocker covers, also examined the oil tank and the gauze oil filter. All these areas were extremely clean with no signs of any solidified oil crud at all. So after fitting the external oil filter I have started to use Westway oil Semi Synthetic 20W50, which has an API SJ. The oil did get discoloured very quickly at first and I changed it after 300 miles, then 500 miles twice before returning to the standard 1000mile oil change intervals. I find I need to change the clutch oil more frequently. Although the clutch oil is topped up automatically by the engine oil, I find it gets very black and contaminated so I change it every 200 miles or so.
@relph3 6 ай бұрын
In reply to your question about my carbs jets and slide # I use: Amal Mk2 2930 L & R 30mm Bore 124/026 #25 Pilot Jet Air screw 1½ turns out 376/100 200 main Jet 124/026 #35 Choke Jet 2928/122 .105 Needle Jet (Brass) 2928/060 #3 Slide (New replacement Amal latest design which differs from the original) 2928/030 2C3 Needle (set to the top needle grove because the new slides created a too rich mixture) 2622/13535 Air Jet 3.5 (between velocity stack and carb body) 622/069 OE white none adjustable float Handlebar mounted fuel enrichment lever (cable operated choke) The exhaust down pipes are unbalanced and the end pipes are after mart pea shooters. I have tried this setup but with using the middle grove of the needle and 2 turns out of the Air screw but the bike ran a bit rich and would be a little hard to start after a good run if left for about half an hour or so. The engine not wanting to start with choke on but not wanting to start without choke. This setup would eventually cause the plugs to soot up and then a miss fire would occur.
@OldBiker 6 ай бұрын
@@relph3 Thanks for all the info, the reason you don't find much dirt in the filters etc is because it all builds up in the sludge trap, have a look at this video and see the amount of hard crud that your semi synthetic oil will be breaking up and feeding to your big ends - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z32nmmaabruJr7s
@mmark8394 5 ай бұрын
Good comment, on triumph trident it's essential to clear the crank oil ways, a 3hour job,
@rvdvogt 6 ай бұрын
Not a good idea and as Dave Whellers said very bad engineering practice! Spin on oil filters must always be on the pressure side of the pump.
@markbrennan4693 6 ай бұрын
What a stunning bike. A credit to you.Great machine. Thank you.
@bananabrooks3836 6 ай бұрын
Norton exhausts belong on Nortons.
@relph3 6 ай бұрын
Are you talking about the end pipes or the down pipes. Neither are OE Triumph or Norton design.
@bananabrooks3836 6 ай бұрын
The silencers of course.
@stevem5383 6 ай бұрын
I have to wonder if the original pump produces enough pressure to route the oil through the filter with enough volume.. The filter is essentially a restriction for what is originally a minimal oiling system. I've left my 66 TR6R stock and it's still running after all of these years with no bottom end service.
@malcolmcasson3571 13 күн бұрын
no it wont.
@DaveWhellersVintage 6 ай бұрын
Sorry but that is a very very bad idea. It was correct on the return line before. Now you will create a massive problem and may distroy the engine by doing that. Its very bad enginering practice and do hope no one tries to do this. Put a Charlies filter in the tank if you have, they work ok and are desined to do that. But please swap this back to how it was originaly.
@rorybeaumont 6 ай бұрын
Just to clarify you advocate having the filter on the pressurised side of the system that goes to the rockers and top of the frame/tank. The alternative would be from the base of the Frame/ Tank which is gravity fed and sucked into the engine ?
@DaveWhellersVintage 6 ай бұрын
@@rorybeaumont All filters should be after the pump on the pressure side or tank retun line. Putting a filter on the inlet side will cause pump cavitation and may even collapese the lines. A gauze strainer on the inlet is fine and is all that is necessary. The bike is fitted with one already that just needs washing out.
@DaveWhellersVintage 6 ай бұрын
@@rorybeaumont The Norton type spin on type oil filter MUST be connected to the return or pressure side from the pump. It is designed to do only that. It is not designed to work on the suction side of the pump as the pressure drop over that type of filter is pretty high and can result in immense low pressure cavitation issues occurring in the circuit, and even collapse flexible type hoses, especially at high engine speeds when you want the best oil flow over the bearings possible. . From Best Engineering practice, only a strainer free flow type filter should be fitted to the suction side of any pump. I believe some people us a Charlies type filter in the bottom of the oil column, but I would not recommend even that. You only need one oil filter of 10 to 15 microns in any circuit. Any others you include in the circuit are not doing anything other than restricting flow. I do hope you find this information of use.
@rorybeaumont 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. As a layman that makes sense to me. I'm now curious why people say they can be connected the other way !
@TheReverb1 6 ай бұрын
Hi; I have a modified timing cover with the feed directly there like a car. In that system I had an external filter; on top of external filter mount have a device to screw the oil switch and the oil gauge line. Also have a N Hyde oil cooler plus a rotary pump. I put 10000km per year on these old bikes. I use it as transportation I am not a Sunday hopper...
@briangibbs518 6 ай бұрын
Hello Derick. A great video. I'm just starting to take the year to clean up and work my own 79 T140E. Might I ask? How did you achieve your currently leak-free gasket surfaces? Thanks, Brian
@relph3 6 ай бұрын
If you are talking about the oil in frame filter sump plate. I stuck a sheet of medium sand paper to a flat work surface and spent about 1/2 an hour rubbing sump plate mating surface until it was flat. I put all the gaskets and internal oil filter back using silicone gadget, then waited until the silicone had set before refilling the bike with oil. If you join the Facebook Group "Triumph 650 & 750 Twins OIF" and search through my posts you will see pictures of me doing the sump plate. facebook.com/groups/315323709546199
@rickconstant6106 5 ай бұрын
@@relph3 I cut my own gaskets from 1/32" (0.8mm) gasket paper, and fit them with just a smear of grease. Never had a leak, and all it takes to clean the surfaces is a wipe with a rag.
@rorybeaumont 6 ай бұрын
Hi Derick, Another interesting modification nicely presented. My bike is a 81 model and only a week or so ago I bought the same filter holder. I like your pipe routing. I'm thinking of using steel braided 10mm hoses. Did you keep the Top hat or Charlies filter in the sump ? Dave
@relph3 6 ай бұрын
Yes I have kept original filter in the sump. I probably could remove it but that would mean disturbing the currently leak free gasket surfaces. I cleaned it all out about 9 months ago.
@Segsy59 6 ай бұрын
I think you meant in frame oil reservoir and not sump?
@MeYou-yz2yz 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful bike but it ain't a Triumph if it don't leak oil. 😂
@EightSixx 6 ай бұрын
any other known issue i should know about prior to buying one./
@relph3 6 ай бұрын
Just buy one! You will not regret it. I have the R version. Join the Facebook groups facebook.com/groups/nuda900/ facebook.com/groups/oznudas/
@PeacefulRallyCar-pw3cs 6 ай бұрын
1979 me and my high school buds used to hang out at the local shop. He had a triumph with a pink tank (champagne?). Prob anniversary edition. One fin on the head was broken. Thing sat there for months waiting for parts.
@nigelfisher3756 7 ай бұрын
Super job, looks really good. Very useful mods without overcomplicating things. Now, when do I drop my TR7RV round for similar treatment?
@paulwoods682 7 ай бұрын
That amount of movement on the chain over the sprocket can also be due to wear on the sprocket
@johnutting9615 5 ай бұрын
The roller diameter on the japaneses chains is not the same a the Reynolds chain so there will always be some sloppiness when you pull the chain away from the sprocket.
@gwilliamwallace 7 ай бұрын
Gorgeous bike. I had friends with Triumphs back in the 70s and one day a buddy was having trouble getting his Bonneville started. I ride up on my Honda four and say, "I'll give it a go..." And he replied dourly after my first few futile kicks, "It's not a Honda."
@davidmacgregor5193 7 ай бұрын
I've noticed that your registration plate ends in a 'W', that is a 1981 registration mark, not a 1979 which was a 'T' plate. Also a black and silver plate is illegal on motorcycles registered after 31st of December 1972, yours should be yellow and black. bought a brand new T140E in 1981, same colour scheme as yours, black and candy apple red, it was also a USA export model. The Bonneville replaced my 1977 TR7RV 'Tiger', I kept the Bonneville for thirteen months and I traded it in against a 1977 registered T160V 'Trident' with a Norman Hyde 871cc big bore kit. Those three machines were fairly reliable for everyday use, great to own and ride. Good luck with your Bonneville.
@p--n 7 ай бұрын
If a chain deflects more than 10" from straight in an arc then its shot. 8" is passable. 6" is sound and serviceable.
@relph3 7 ай бұрын
Ok thank for that. Good tip..
@p--n 6 ай бұрын
@@relph3 No problem Ralph. For those unsure this is a lateral deflection test that highlights sideways play in the links over the chains entire length.
@4418CARLOU 6 ай бұрын
It depends on the length.
@Segsy59 7 ай бұрын
Looking forward to your report after a road test.
@relph3 7 ай бұрын
Yes, I am 99% confident it will be ok but until I ride the bike I can't be sure. I do think the chain guard will snag if I don't alter it somehow.
@briangibbs518 7 ай бұрын
I do like what you've done with your wiring and main fuse block. I've just bought a 79 T140E. I don't know how many owners it's gone through. The wiring on the bike just looks a mess right now. Our Canadian economy is so bad right now it's made for a good buyer's market. I've bought a couple of older cars and the one had a mouse nest in the main relay box. What a nightmare it was. All's good purrs like a kitten now. I'm a retired x tradesman so I have the time. With the help of some mates and a few beers, we got the bike indoors. Thank you for the video. I'll save it for my files to review now and then. I've given myself a year and a pension budget. You've helped me make up my mind I'll start with wiring. While slowly amassing parts I want and need. Cheers mate ride safe.
@relph3 7 ай бұрын
The wiring on my T140E was also a bit of a mess. So I just went through everything and put it all back to OE almost wire by wire. Message me on my Facebook and I'll send you what I've got on file.. Just look my full name "Derick Relph" up on Facebook..
@briangibbs518 7 ай бұрын
@@relph3 Thank you Derick I will. So many butt connectors and push-in connectors and wires that just end.
@rover100bunson 7 ай бұрын
Ah,heard it and its lovely
@rover100bunson 7 ай бұрын
Lad in our town had the same bike,to my miind the best looking production bike made,love to hear it