I speak Portuguese and I had to learn English to be able to read the content of this book. There are many people suffering around the world. Thank you Sally and Martin. I hope God rewards you for this act of generosity.

Would you say, a position being eliminated is a form of quiet firing?

I had an obsession with diarrhea. I started cleaning things for months because I had diarrhea once. What if I miss class because I have diarrhea? The probability of that happening feels irrelevant. If my mom has a Ph.D in probability and statistics, why can't she educate me about the probability of things happening? My mom congratulated me on voting for Donald Trump, but she hasn't explained the probability of Hillary Clinton winning the election! I'm thinking about how they're going to disable my UC account after I fail fuel cells and they're going to revoke my gym membership. Louis Farrakhan has some termites in his life.

This is happen with me right now. Because one time I reported them brought a cellphone and taking a picture in the jail. from there until they also manipulate me even reported to HR and using my weakness ( my voice loud and high pitch ) They also tried to lie the words I do not said they told I stated the word . now I have diagnoses my hearing some loss because the door of jail so loud . They success with they were lied I got suspended for 40 hours. I got traumatize to go to work now.

Great information.

Your the best I love that explanation… I have adhd and I only had to watch once

What to do then...how to be fully brave?i didn't understand

My job stopped giving me hours and they're constantly changing the story. First it was that they can't afford it, then it changed to the tavern hasn't been busy because of the summertime which I my previous kitchen manager made sure I got hours last year regardless, then it changed to me being slow as a snail and crappy productivity even though numerous times the managers even GM himself said that I have to take my time and that not everything is going to be perfectly done, then it changed to my bus schedule is making it "difficult" to get hours since I can't work weekends and national holidays (New Years, MLK Day, Memorial Day, Juneteenth, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day and New Years Day.) When they previously said that I wasn't needed on those holidays because the tavern business is slow. The tavern is open all 365 days (366 on leap years.) I should also mention that I am developmentally disabled, and they know it. I don't know if the GM is too much of a coward that if he was to terminate me that I'd pull the "They discriminated" card which would cause bad PR, and the company would have to do so much damage control on social media saying the usual damage control about how they don't discriminate against protected classes, the actions of the general manager/entire management team doesn't reflect on the company's viewpoints, and then they'll say that they have terminated the general manager/entire management team, and maybe an apology possibly an offer to be reinstated which I won't take because they did more than burn the bridge, they blew it up.

What if the intrusive thoughts are true. The thoughts are of events that really happened, or the thoughts are of dying, and your loved ones dying, because that is something that is truly going to happen.

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At 13 minutes…”should I tell my therapist about my intrusive thoughts?” Ummmm I’ve told several therapists and not one of them were familiar, and were appalled by harm related thoughts. And this is why we question if I can tell our therapists. At worst, they confirm our thoughts are very important, confirming the insanity we feel, at best, they admit they know nothing about it and carry in with useless treatment.

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It's not at all "workplace retaliation" if the employ is a dumb ass, worthless employee who's continually irresponsible. Any person who won't do his job as hired surely doesn't deserve to actually keep his job. Case closed -

I had a boss at a company where we had to log billable hours reduce my work. When I logged Vacation Hours, he freaked bc it must have occurred to him that I'd not taken a day off in a year, and he was not going to be able to say I got anything other than what I deserved.

At my previous job my manager never had time for a one-on-one, zero feedback was given on our department's performance - we basically had a 15 minute Team's meeting with our manager every week (every member member in the department was in the meeting, including the board and the CEO), but we had no agenda for the meeting - and you cannot exactly build an informal type of relationship with a manager if this is the 'scope' of your interactions... We never knew what we had to give feedback on 😂 (we were busy, but how much do they - the 'higher-ups' - really want to know about repetitive administration type of duties, costings, shipment ETAs, especially if they don't provide any type of guidance if there was a problem to be dealt with)....? So the only metric they used in judging our performance was by judging our personalities. And this was waayy too personal imo... My manager told me that my personality made it hard for her to interact with me when I raised some direct complaints about needing more guidance... So that was a reach, because she didn't know me personally enough to even think about my personality... She also said I never made eye-contact with her when she walked by my desk... 😂 But - I never really knew 'who' walked by me because I was looking at 2 screens before me - and not to everyone who walked by me. Also, nobody else looked up to look her into they eyes when she came to the office.. It was all so petty. 😂 But, at the time, these comments really stung. You can work on your performance but if they dislike your personality - well, not too much you can do about that because the perceptions have been made. Either way, I've got a new job and it's a senior management position. I'll try my best not repeat this type of "styles" and to be available, will listen, will give recognition, will not make it personal but rather work on the 'work-flow system', will interact more with people who seem closed-off and disengaged, etc. Bad managing is a form of bullying. And everyone is worthy of being treated respectfully. I truly believe that even disengaged employees are ttying their best, because they woke up that morning and decided to show up, etc.

“There’s no such thing as “quiet firing,” it’s retaliation.” Exactly, they want you to quit because they can’t or won’t just fire you and face the potential consequences of that.

Them glasses though 😂

What is said around the 46th minute is purely ACT

You'll be quietly fired if you buck the status quo. Status quo benefits a select few who run the place, threaten that and you threaten those in power, and sure as shit they will retaliate. In Australia at least, staying until you're fired is more financially beneficial since the only way you can fire someone for "no reason" is redundancy, in which case you're entitled to a payout proportional to your years of service

Im with you Sarah I am following him everywhere I can find him just amazing!

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Amazing conversation which gives much knowledge and understanding of the problem

45yo veteran with an undergrad in marketing and a masters in management. Ive worked in management and as a rank and file employee. When it comes to bullying women are way worse than men. Generally speaking, men bully men. Women bully women and men. Men will utilize aggression. Women will make a game of it. They will be the aggressor andbthen paint themselves as a victim. Ive seen this time and time again.

I think quiet firing is also about not having to pay unemployment. Get them to quit so the company doesn't have to pay out. It's always bottom line. And you can forget about going to HR because they protect the company, not the employees.

1. Good video 2. How do I disable and/or remove my amygdala?????

Love the call-out on taking time to reflect on the prior activity (a meeting) and 'close' that activity and set those thoughts and ideas before moving on to the next activity. I aim to start and end meetings on time so that I and my attendees have a break of 5-10 minutes for that purpose. Thanks for the conversation!

WOW!!!! My mom just got guiet fired!!!! I KNEW there was a name for how she was being treated up until this event!! Thank you!!

Some of these stories are way worse than I experienced. I worked for a library district for a year. Halfway through, they hired a guy who worked with me some, and at the other libraries in the district some. Everything was great for a few months. But the upper management never took my coworker or myself seriously or implemented any of our ideas (but they did, with the other librarians in the district). They announced they were replacing me (immediately after the conclusion of the summer reading program I headed up with little coaching or experience, and not paying me as a manager even though I was doing all the work of one), so I started job searching. My coworker and I quit on the same day and found new jobs in a week. And now he's my boyfriend, and it's getting very serious. So there is that.... 😁

It is disgusting! It is happening to me no doubt. Written up for the same dates! I am not allowing them to fire me and if so the least they can do is give unemployment

I am a victim of this currently, my manager is causing so much harm and pain for me. He is absolutely causing harm and not helping me and not responding to me and wanting me to leave. I told him I’m not leaving and he admitted he can’t let me go due to performance, but another stakeholder even talked about me at a company holiday party in an open setting as I heard from a witness and there were lots of witnesses. I am in a horrible situation right now.

Yes lot of retaliation going on. They get away with it because they make the policies and they also enforce the policies so when you file a complaint they just don't ever investigate and throw it in the trash can and nothing happens. I lived through 3 years of hell. And I want accountability

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This is not even a new concept. During good times, companies are lax. When they are about to lay off, not always, but often things get strange first.

I was sick with Covid temp 100.4-101.6 and pink going go for 2 weeks, came back to work with doctor note. Boss gave a letter, get (3) of you will be fired. OSHA stated you should and employer job to make safe place to work. My employer is basically say should’ve came to work sick

What about retaliation coming from the employee? As a manager, I’m constantly dealing with passive aggressive and undermining of my authority

Great stuff!

I love that you pointed to this! Thank you Sarah for reminding us of ways that we can powerfully truly connect with each other. Beautiful!

Thanks for sharing- as an HR person, I think this really resonates and especially in the recruiting process - I try to make sure I've gotten someone's name pronounced correctly, because I agree that people appreciate that little bit of extra effort - and even if they say, "You can call me _____" I ask if that's what they prefer. It's up to them to tell me how to address them - it's not my call as I agree that it does help establish a connection - especially if people regularly get their name wrong. Have a great weekend!

I sure did!!! It happens more than u think!!! Some management members are afraid to go out in public!!!

Quiet firieing leads to loud mass shootings on the job!!!! Trust and believe!!!!

I experienced this as the employee working in social work. The HR manager and I conflicted in moral values which lead to a clash that ultimately resulted in me leaving the nonprofit. HR was restricting opportunities to an individual that I supported due to their transgender identity, while allowing the same opportunities to the cisgender individuals I supported. I confronted my HR manager with the concerns that both I and this individual had regarding the situation and he became very combative, ultimately stating that he was no longer going to speak on the topic with me and refused any compromise or solution. After this situation, I spoke with other managers to see if HR and I could have support from them in conversing about this topic again as the student felt actively harmed by the restrictions placed on them and had experienced further retaliation due to speaking out. My fellow managers all felt nervous about getting involved due to prior conflicts they'd had with him that ultimately lead to the same result as my situation. HR was both verbally passive aggressive and directly critical of my work, as well as attempting to create assignments for me that were outside of my means. He created unnecessary conflict with me following our discussion until I felt a complete lack of control or enjoyment in my work life and decided to leave. In my final weeks, I was approached by numerous other employees letting me know that they felt similarly in their relationship with the HR manager and had been looking for other work.

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I’ve worked as a nurse for 7 years. Started out med surg neuro step down. Never staffed appropriately on the shift and would have either twice the amount of pts or high risk pts then other nurses on the floor. Kept writing it up, manager would just throw it away and then started targeting me. She succeeded in getting me fired. Fast forward a few years, was working in hospice nurse position. The medical director refused to medicate pts appropriately according to pts needs, she may as well not prescribed anything. I mentioned this to manager. Within a month of this, I was placed on a pip. I knew what was going to happen so I immediately started job search. Low and behold I was fired on a Tuesday and by the following Monday I had a new job I was starting. However, as far as I’m concerned no employer will ever get my loyalty again. After being betrayed and backstabbed by my employers, you get what you get. I’m done going out of my way for any company. I’m also no longer going to kill myself for a job either. I’m done busting my ass for an employer that would fire me in a heartbeat. You get what the job description says and that’s it.

This was such a great discussion. I work in a small firm and was approached by an employee for a significant increase in pay which would have created tremendous inequity with other employees. This person did not have the level of experience needed to quantify their request BUT, my thought screamed ENTITLEMENT! While that may have been partly true, they also needed an increase due to the increase of living standards. Although it was not the 30% increase plus free healthcare and additional PTO time as requested, we were able to give an increase that was aligned with our compensation standards. On a side note, hope to see you at SHRM 2024 in Chicago!

I recently experienced "quiet firing". I worked for a small chiropractic office, for 10 1/2 months, 1 doctor/owner, who suddently started doing little irritating things to make it seem that I wasn't doing my job. Then she started saying things to patients implying that I wasn't doing my job properly. Then she began saying inappropriate negative things to my 1 co-worker about me, including that she wasn't going to fire me, but hire someone to push me out. I believe this was an attempt by the doctor to incite my co-worker against me. The doctor placed an ad, without telling me, and only after applicants started showing up did she actually call me into her office to tell me that her numbers were down, things were a mess (which they weren't), and she was going to hire an "assistant" to help me. She actually told the applicant who she hired that she was going to replace me, and from my "replacement's" behavior during her first day on the job, it was clear the doctor wanted me "pushed out" quickly. The doctor also incited one of the patients against me on that same day. I felt I could not stay there any longer because I didn't know what was coming next as the doctor was obviously creating a false scenario about my work ethic and capabilities and I felt it was too risky. My co-worker quit 4 weeks later. I filed for unemployment, my claim was denied, and I am now in the process of an Appeal. All thoughts are appreciated!

Yes this is true managers use cats paw technique or utilizing the power of their superiors to kill an employees career slowly overtime.

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Hi Gilmara. Love seeing you again.

I was so proficient they dismissed me lol. Take that for retaliation and insecurity