This was very well done and so much fun! I thoroughly enjoyed this "What If?" in Tudor history.
@hannahsroyalhistoryКүн бұрын
Thank you
@elizabethmayrose8521Күн бұрын
Well done! I think this was well researched and thought out, Hannah. So much pain, suffering and death would have been averted. It’s a shame things didn’t happen in this time-line.
@hannahsroyalhistoryКүн бұрын
Thank you :)
@Andy_Babb2 күн бұрын
More 40 min videos please? 😬😬😬
@Andy_Babb2 күн бұрын
I love your videos. Thanks so much!!
@mamalillycat87562 күн бұрын
Did you know that when Queen Jane was having a hard time giving birth the doctors ask King Henry that having to choose whether he wanted to save the baby's life or Queen Jane that he picked the baby? He told the doctors that he could always get a new queen. So much on really loving her huh? Henry loved Henry.
@hayleys-c3u2 күн бұрын
Nothing is impossible I suppose, and surely no one wants to discourage research, but on balance, Richard ordering the prince's to be killed is still by far the most likely scenario.
@Fact_Checker_4_U_V23 күн бұрын
Wasn’t there a male heir to Henry and Catherine who lived longer than days? I thought it was months
@Vonn_Loren3 күн бұрын
Henry (Duke of Cornwall) was born 1 January 1511 and died 22 February 1511. So that's a little less than 2 months. All the others, save Mary, were miscarried or stillborn.
@Fact_Checker_4_U_V23 күн бұрын
@ I thought so. Poor Catherine. I do like these alternate histories, the what ifs that make you ponder how things could of been!
@KarilynM5 күн бұрын
There was a rumor that Edward IV was considering in allowing Henry VII back to England and Wales if he married Elizabeth of York as it appeared to give Henry a small chance since Elizabeth would have been third in succession until her brothers had children. Edward also thought Henry would be loyal to him if he was married to Edward’s oldest. Edward also still had many daughters to make other family royal connections
@livlockhart015 күн бұрын
This is so fun, such a great thought experiment! Would love to see more of these!
@hannahsroyalhistory5 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! There will be more to come!
@amandaharris9906 күн бұрын
I loved the what ifs and that it still put certain things that would have still occured into the time line while omitting some things too. You should do more of these 😊
@hannahsroyalhistory6 күн бұрын
Thank you 😊
@jaclynneal18886 күн бұрын
This was a super fun and different video idea and I LOVE the length of it :)
@jaclynneal18886 күн бұрын
Also the outfits have been popping offfff
@hannahsroyalhistory6 күн бұрын
Thank you! 😊 glad you enjoyed
@amywebb45866 күн бұрын
During the pandemic I started a deep(ish) dive on the War of the Roses & the Tudors. I read through quite a few historians, nonfiction, biographies, & fictional (needed a bit of break from the real stuff) books. I remember in one of the nonfiction accounts (can't remember which) but Sir Thomas Moore was actually able to interview James Tyrell before Tyrell's death. According to this account Tyrell confessed to Moore the who, what, when, where, & how of the deaths of Edward & Richard. Also as we know the Duke of Buckingham at the time & Richard III had a falling out while on progress that year. The reason for that was that the Duke disagreed on the murder of the children & that is why he turned against Richard III. I want to say the account is in one of the books written by a Phillipa Somebody. I just know it wasn't Phillipa Gregory.
@tae_locdin6 күн бұрын
I wish Anne had a boy too so she could've fired Jane from her service and kicked her out of court! 😎🤷🏽♀️
@0nagaAli6 күн бұрын
He likely would have been in line to the throne before Mary and Elizabeth and a third marriage of Jane Seymour might not have happened.
@Andy_Babb2 күн бұрын
Well, yeah lol he’d definitely have been in line before any daughters
@0nagaAliКүн бұрын
@Andy_Babb just as Edward VI was.
@Andy_BabbКүн бұрын
@@0nagaAli Exactly. Is it still the same now? Like, if William and Kate had a girl first, would she be in line before any brothers born after her? Or does the old patriarchal order of monarchy still come into play?
@imonherenow36736 күн бұрын
Ohhh What would Mary Queen of Scots reign would’ve loved like if Francis II hadn’t died?
@achilleswillesКүн бұрын
That would be so good
@sawyermclachlan50496 күн бұрын
YESSSSS thank you so much for the what if I love them!!!!
@hannahsroyalhistory6 күн бұрын
No worries I’m glad you enjoy them!
@neilfarrow15357 күн бұрын
As someone who doesn't care one jot whether Richard III had the Princes in the Tower killed or not, it mystifies me how either side of the debate can be so sure of 'their side', given the problems with the evidence for either hypothesis. I recognise that Hannah clearly says that she is working with probabilities, not certainties. I'm going to stick my neck out and say that Henry VII himself was not sure whether Lambert Simnel and Perkin Warbek were imposters or not, therefore played it as safe as he could until his hand was forced by circumstances. If he was sure that they were imposters, the evidence would have been presented and swift executions would have surely followed. Confessions under duress are surely unreliable pieces of evidence that they were imposters. Was it possible for the Princes to have escaped the Tower of London? Yes, numerous people did so: Ranulf Flambard, Roger Mortimer and Alice Tankerville to name just three. It's unlikely, but possible that they escaped, especially considering the popularity, wealth and influence their families had. Is it possible that Margaret of York lied, or was duped into believing Perkin Warbek was Richard of Shrewsbury? Possible, and she had the motive of trying to destabilise the reign of the man who had killed her younger brother, Richard III, and bring the House of York back to the throne. However, is it likely that she would risk the great respect and authority that she earned by doing so? Further, is it also then possible that the King of Scotland would allow one of his relatives to marry a known imposter? I can't find evidence of any other imposter ever claiming to be a noble and gaining the support of two Royal Families, and it is somewhat doubtful that anyone could fool two Royal households. Despite that, both of them had motives to do so. How can we be certain either way? Have other imposters remained un-detected? Is it such a bad idea to try such impersonation, that no-one has tried it before or since? Were Warbek and Simnel genuine, but merely failed in their attempted takeovers? The gold chain: Do we have a documented chain of custody of it? Where was it when the young prince was placed in the tower? There are a myriad of ways that Tyrell may have obtained the chain, including as a bribe, proof of the veracity of a message, or even theft. In itself, it is not firm evidence of the death or survival of the owner. Has the methodology of the document search by the Langley side been explained? What was the expertise of the volunteers, and what were their instructions? Did they merely look for a set of keywords, or were they able to read and fully understand the documents that they were reviewing? However, I would like to point out that the documents presented by the Langley hypothesis have been verified by experts, even though we cannot yet be sure that other, contradictory documents have not been ignored, or merely not found yet.
@hayleys-c3u2 күн бұрын
Henry VII was married to the sister of the princes in question. She would have be able to identify the imposters as her brothers, or not. So whatever information has or hasn't filtered down through the centuries to us, Henry VII and his wife knew one way or the other for sure.
@neilfarrow15352 күн бұрын
@@hayleys-c3u A very good point. Did the sister meet the brothers?
@jeng84017 күн бұрын
Richard III is the only suspect that makes sense. I also assume his Edward IV quietly had Henry VI killed in the tower also. Which may be what gave Richard the idea to do it. Little boys grow up to be men. And men can raise armies. Which is why it was ironic to me that Richard III was killed in battle by the army Henry VII raised against him.
@0nagaAli8 күн бұрын
I just got a new phone today because my last phone became obsolete. I just re subscribed to you with my new phone.
@paulaharris46679 күн бұрын
Elizabeth l is my favorite!❤👍🏼
@kyjanice10 күн бұрын
If I want to buy this book, would you please share the link of buying it, thank you
@hannahsroyalhistory9 күн бұрын
Sure you can scan the QR code on screen or I’ve got the links here 😊 Amazon UK: amzn.eu/d/9AdB0A5 Amazon US: a.co/d/8JQShNu
@luxste14 күн бұрын
Anne sounds like kind of a monster. I don't think she deserved to be beheaded, but I can't figure out why people love her and consider her to be their heroine. She was pure evil towards Catherine of Aragon and Mary.
@YanestraAgain14 күн бұрын
Have you tried to extend your horizon beyond a few generations of English monarchs? Tried House Habsburg?
@eventhorizon22916 күн бұрын
It seems to me that the ridiculous number of failed pregnancies could easily be attributed to the level promiscuity of the period. Consider this: hygiene was almost non-existent, which means that all manner of organisms where sealed up inside the womb for 9 mos brewing...And since it was the Men (most notably Henry) who had relations with anything moving (and it was moving he'd catch it) it was likely the men who were responsible for most of the miscarriages, still births, crib deaths and death "in childbed" they blamed the Women for. It never occurred to Henry that it was not Katherine or Anne because his anointed by God status meant he was Perfect...epic eye roll
@eventhorizon22916 күн бұрын
I've read every single thing I can find about Anne and the women of the courts. I've sought out every movie, documentary etc about life in the Misogynistic life of the All women of that era were pawns of the men. Anne's biggest crime, in their eyes, was that she wasn't. She was a progressive, intelligent and outspoken woman...the most dangerous kind to those who would subjugate them. Frighteningly enough, I am reminded A Lot of Henry VIII and the Henrician Court in the current events
@Andy_Babb17 күн бұрын
Thanks Hannah! Looking forward to part 2!
@onagaali202417 күн бұрын
Yes, Katherine of Aragon was tenured 24 years as Queen Consort of England compared to the other 5 wives. I don't know why this song makes me think of Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon/ Queen Mum. ♥️🏰👸🏻🇬🇧
@eventhorizon22919 күн бұрын
I've always wondered how Anne could be accused of adultery/Treason against Henry if he claimed the marriage was invalid. He can't have it both ways.
@onagaali202419 күн бұрын
You still have your tree up, it's beautiful. Your videos are always interesting.
@hannahsroyalhistory19 күн бұрын
Thank you 😊 I must have filmed it in December
@onagaali202419 күн бұрын
@hannahsroyalhistory your videos must be pre recorded. I got this video on notifications fewer than 24 hours ago.
@gonefishing16720 күн бұрын
Thank you so much, very interesting 🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
@celacestial20 күн бұрын
Ayyyy was waiting for this following the Princes videos, thank you ☺️
@Nenya199121 күн бұрын
Eleanor Manners is a distant relative of mine. My grandma's maiden name is Manners 😄
@mamo427122 күн бұрын
Edward Hall berichtet: "weil er (Edward Warwick), seit frühester Kindheit in strengster Isolation gefangen gehalten wurde, konnte er am Ende keine Gans von einem Kapaun unterscheiden". Er hat nicht gegen Tudor rebelliert, sondern ist aus fadenscheinigen Gründen hingerichtet worden. Im Titulus Regius wird Warwick ausdrücklich als Kind eines Verräters vom Thron ausgeschlossen. Nachdem der Titulus Regius vernichtet war, stand Warwick automatisch in der Thronfolge VOR Tudor. Genauso wie seine Schwester Margarete Pole und ihre Nachkommen
@SyIe1224 күн бұрын
👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐EXCELLENT WORK!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION. I LOOK FORWARD TO NEW VIDEOS! THANK YOU
@hannahsroyalhistory22 күн бұрын
Thank you 😊
@onagaali202424 күн бұрын
I get sad when I read or listen to any video about Jane Seymour. It's sad she died so young and before she was even crowned.
@CycocelVocalist24 күн бұрын
You're confusing Jane Seymour with Jane Grey.
@onagaali202424 күн бұрын
@CycocelVocalist no I'm talking about Jane Seymour. I don't get them mixed up. Jane Grey was Henry VIII's grand niece.
@christyjohnson561827 күн бұрын
Love the pink hair
@hannahsroyalhistory27 күн бұрын
Thank you 😊
@22Too28 күн бұрын
#Meglomaniac
@sawyermclachlan504929 күн бұрын
Would you ever consider doing more what ifs? I think they are real interesting
@hannahsroyalhistory29 күн бұрын
I’ve got one coming on the 3rd of Feb 🤫 but yes I love a what if so if you’ve got any suggestions please feel free to comment I can’t guarantee when I’ll get round to it but if I can find a plausible situation for it I will definitely one day give it a go
@sawyermclachlan504926 күн бұрын
@ I think a what if about Catherine of Aragon giving birth to a boy, or if she agreed to an annulment? Maybe a what if about her dying instead of Arthur? Also love your vids btw
@hannahsroyalhistory26 күн бұрын
Thank you 😊
@tae_locdin29 күн бұрын
Poor Anne. I wonder if she ever regretted meeting and marrying Henry?
@brittney380926 күн бұрын
You dont think its complicated?
@salihakerboua4637Ай бұрын
What’s in his hand ?
@pfranks75Ай бұрын
I would call him ‘his immenseness.’
@mikmak2102Ай бұрын
He heard a Spanish royal referred to as “Your Majesty” and he decided that was how he would be addressed from then on.
@onagaali2024Ай бұрын
I wonder who kept his wardrobe accessories long as they lasted since his January,1547 departure from life? I did some research about it and saw nothing in modernity but a rust colored velvet hat is what remains left of his wardrobe acessories.