Thanks mate, yeah I am pleased with them in the end. Mostly it was my issue I think, although it is a bit annoying getting into all those cut out wooden bits! They came to me assembled and sprayed already, I'm not sure if he did anything to them first - I have heard various things from people saying that they need painting with PVA first or something like that. I've always found that these type of MDF terrain pieces take spray paint fine, and if there are any slightly blotchy bits it doesn't really matter. I gave them a couple of coats of Munitorum Varnish after they were painted.

Great stuff, thanks! Yeah I just wanted to have some very clear and easy ways to distinguish the 3 units of Leapers that would otherwise look very similar, especially as I want to keep the paint scheme consistent between them

Thanks mate. I used the same paint for some icicles on my Christmas models, it goes on weird but dries nicely!

Thanks a lot mate, much appreciated! I'm really looking forward to getting them on the board :-)

Are you sure it isn't the dwarf, for true aficionados of the game? 😉

Good question! I don't have any of the "new" ogres (i.e. Ogre Kingdoms), I have some of the very old metal ones! The Mercenery and Warrior ogres are on regular 25mm bases so they are a bit smaller. The big ogres are on 50mm wide bases and overhang a bit, so they're a bit bigger. GW ogres go on 40mm bases quite comfortably. I'll dig out my old ogres for a comparison! I was looking at alternate 3D sculpts earlier on, deciding if I want to replace all or some of them - there are a lot of great ogres out there, too many to choose from!

Ha ha you have to take her side don't you, stick with your teammate! 😃 But yeah those bits did come out really nicely in the end

Microsoft 3D Builder, it's free to download and pretty easy to use

@@WyvernMinis thanks. I used to be more proficient in 3d decades ago... but I need something simpler for my new stl hobby.

Thanks mate, much appreciated :-)

Thanks a lot, glad you like them! They were actually pretty easy - I wanted a nice, quick contrast paint scheme and liked the black with red look, but yeah other than a few details quick and easy to do. I've done a few videos about how I went about doing them here kzbin.info/aero/PLDti5deHhFGk9I4nqqf9309XRF8iWi5rH

Thanks, yeah I'm glad I held on to them, still a good read! Got plenty more to get off the bookshelf in future 😊

No I haven't yet, I did them both so my daughter and wife had the option of which one to choose, but for now keeping things simple and as written in the first book. I do like the idea of altering things in the future, but don't want to overcomplicate for the little ones.... yet! Maybe a full squad of 4 barbarians and see what they can do.... I have plenty of alternative miniatures to choose from!! 😅

What do you mean, you want me to show the old expansions? I don't have them unfortunately - as I showed in one of my first videos, I have some of the orcs and goblins from the original game (first models I ever bought for 50p in the playground!! 😁), and I have the original board but there were no components in the charity shop box 😔 So I would love to do videos about the old version but I simply don't have it!

Ah right, I haven't played that far ahead yet, makes sense. I think I would rather do it with tokens myself - I have some condition rings for D&D that I got off Amazon, something like that just to loop over a model's head to show it has been empowered would be a simple solution I think. The alternative sculpts are quite nice though!

Thanks so much, I will! 😊 I have the Dragon's Rest STL files, I need to get my filament printer up and running because I'm not going to print all that in resin!! 🤣 But yeah, going to start printing that out while I'm painting the rest of the miniatures, his board looks brilliant

Yeah defo needs a filament printer. I was printing them off on two printers and only took about 4 weeks to get full board. Prob also took about 10 spools of filament. Well worth the effort and brings HeroQuest to life. The squares are a lot bigger so will help with your printed model sizes you’ve mentioned in your other videos.

Thanks, much appreciated!

Excellent, I have a few other videos in the works in the meantime but I will put that on the list :-)

Really glad to hear that, thanks!

Weird! I claim no responsibility for the mystical powers of KZbin to recommend videos🤣! The important question - did you go back and buy the game?

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Ha ha yeah he's just the Juggernaut with a staff isn't he!! 🤣

So glad it was helpful! :-D Have you got some bigger pieces that need the A3? I'm seeing uses for both sizes myself. Maybe in the third kickstarter Jon will go for some A2 books!!! 😂

@@WyvernMinis I'm getting the A3 books so I can do larger battle scenes with 15mm scale minis. I own the two original A4 books and your video inspired me to take some (hasty) pictures! I posted them on the Kickstarter, and I'll share here as well: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uNZxaA7CtNW2c9DaQIJW_EqRJt3TUeei

@@WyvernMinis Yeah we're gonna need A2 or bigger to take pictures of Warhammer 40K titans 😅😁

Really nice citizen. MEDIC!!!!!!!!

Oh cool, I haven't seen any Orc archers in any of the expansions I've got, are they a homebrew thing or official? I have a cool old school Shaman printed out and ready for painting, he looks great and should look OK next to these lads... smaller and more weedy, but that's cos he's a shaman right!

Yeah definitely what I do with warped resin from Forgeworld or something, just some of these are so far out (wobbly bases for instance) and when it's done they'll still be the plastic that I'm not keen on, and I'm not a particular fan of the sculpts. New video up shortly of painting my alternative orcs and goblins, and I painted a few of the ones out of the box too - they are easy to paint and would be good as an intro to the hobby, I just wanted to make my Heroquest set all nice and customised :-)

Yeah could be a fun option, I have a couple of metal He-Man figures from somewhere... have you done it?

@@WyvernMinis no purchases yet, but they are on Etsy. Don't have a printer. I have yet to paint my set up, and the first resin purchases will be Traps, Blocking Walls, etc., basically all the cardboard tiles I hate.

@@WyvernMinis my thing is I want to paint a scheme akin to or suitable for 80s He Man, largely that means mint green or light violet stonework!

Yeah the cardboard tiles for blocked passages are annoying, very easy to miss as they blend in with the floor. Definitely worth replacing I think. I like the sound of all the green stonework, you'll have to eventually make a whole Castle Greyskull board! I and planning on printing one after painting the figures, but I have seen some good examples made from foam board

@@WyvernMinis there are several print-at-home boards that you can have printed on neoprine. One set I like has large dark gaps between rooms so you can place doors without them being intrusive. DriveThruRPG has some.

Oh, I can hear it OK on my speakers. Sound quality isn't as good as normal as I was recording the audio while filming it rather than dubbing it later, so it has a bit of an echo. Not inaudible though?

Thanks mate, yeah I was proud of her - can't wait to get all those Orcs painted myself, such great models!!

Yeah definitely, and there are so many good options out there now as well. I do like buying a complete boxed game that has everything in it though - makes it easy to get out and play without having to dig through loads of foam boxes to find all the right minis! That's why I'm trying to find good alternatives to be dedicated Heroquest minis, rather than pulling double duty with Frostgrave / Warhammer / D&D. Plus getting the right size for the board - although maybe getting a mat with larger squares or printing out a new board would be a good option too

Board games have lots of great minis these days. It's pretty crazy. Dark Souls minis are incredible. @@WyvernMinis

Not played that one but have heard good things about the designs and stuff. I particularly like the Descent models, I have a bunch of the 2nd edition ones, they are fun and remind me of Nolzur's Marvellous Miniatures and that sort of stuff, but the 3rd edition is really good quality. That's on my painting to-do list! :-)

I like Dark Souls but a lot of people HATE it. So you can probably buy it really cheap. The minis are insanely nice if you like dark fantasy. Pathfinder prepainted minis boxes are pretty cool and some are probably on sale right now. Could make for a good video if you popped open some boxes. Nolzurs I like too because theyr'e easy to paint and look good.@@WyvernMinis

I heard the video game of Dark Souls was very frustrating, sounded like it wouldn't be my cup of tea, but yeah the aesthetic looks cool. Nolzur's are also really good price. I've had a couple of slightly bendy issues with them, but not much. I did some painting WIP of Nolzur's stuff for D&D on my blog before I started doing videos, I think people prefer videos to reading blogs nowadays! :-D I'll definitely get some more of that stuff on here soon though

Cool, thanks for the info. I think it will be a little while till we get on to the expansion quests with the kids (two quests in a session is pushing it for them!), and unfortunately I think I'll be locked into being Zargon for the forseeable future, but we'll see. Maybe I'll use the app to solo the new quests to 'playtest' them! I'm looking forward to getting them painted up and playing more either way :-)

@@WyvernMinis sounds good. If you need more info, look up "Always Board Never Boring" he has a ton of Hero Quest (spoiler free) reviews up. 😊 Oh! Also keep an eye out for the "Prophecy of Telor" and "Spirit Queen's Torment" quest packs, they have even MORE dice!! 😁

I think Ogre Horde is expected in the UK early next year, not sure about Morcar... I suppose if you were using alternate minis you can just get the rules from the first time it was released? Apart from the different tiles and cards I suppose... how have you found the other expansions?

@@WyvernMinis I’m in my 40s so other than the Elf Quest pack (MageoftheMirror) I have my Originals from my childhood

Oh well you're all set then :-D

Ha ha too right, must consult da shamans to learn the ways of seeing into the future!

Good to know, thanks. Yeah I found the other bits underneath but had already turned the camera off, I saw what I wanted though - the models seem much better quality than in the main game. I'll have to actually open the booklets and read what's in them rather than just guessing! :-D

@@WyvernMinisYeah there are actually 2 different versions of the main game, the one you bought was from the initial kickstarter, the other is a thinner version of the main box which includes the better quality minis they began to make once it hit retail. I have the one you own as well. Yeah there is a lot to read up on, including the online quests 😂 it never ends.

Wow, didn't know about the different models in the post retail box, so early purchasers supporting it got an inferior product? I've stopped doing kickstarters because of that kind of thing, and I got suckered into a lot of them in the past!

Yeah that has crossed my mind, as well as possibly making a 3D board with Dungeons and Lasers terrain or 3D printed stuff, it could be a future project! There are some good printed mats too, which is also tempting. How did you do yours?

@@WyvernMinis i made mine with xps foam i build all my terrain with xps foam its what i'm used to now, it takes a while but fun project

Sounds great, have you got any photos?

@@WyvernMinis i pretty much followed this guys design with some personal changes like my own painting techniques but ye very similar to his. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iV6UcqGBbZ2fgdU

@okdanhe nice, thanks for sharing :-)

Nice! Yeah I love it, once you have the rules sorted it's very quick to set up and play. It looks like there are some new expansions with translucent Bunny dice in them which might be exciting (and mean that the players can have their own set of dice rather than sharing with me!) :-D

Thanks mate, I've got quite a lot of the alternative models almost ready now so next video it should start to come together. Such a great game, I think it will be even better with better quality, painted miniatures :-)

Oh yeah good call! I have the pre-frameworks Hill Giant in there, the frameworks one looks quite cool but a lot more expensive than the monopose one. I actually have a couple of the MaxMini Mega Gargants, plus a few others that need painting - will be in a video as soon as I get a chance to sit down and get on to them. The MaxMinis are really nice! :-D

Thanks, really glad you liked it!

Thanks for the kind words mate, just finishing editing it so it'll be up very soon!

Thanks, yeah I think they're great and really glad to be able to use them as an army now - a big stompy mass charging across the table! Makes for very cinematic games :-D

@@WyvernMinis Definitely!

The little ones? Yeah I've seen some great conversions, I've just never been a big fan of how their bellies sit above their weirdly thin legs that sort of point inwards... but loads of nice bits on the sprue, so maybe I should get one anyway! The mega-gargants, on the other hand, fantastic models and loads of bits to use elsewhere for money saving - next time I'll get them out, they just need some painting!

@@WyvernMinis I meant both kits I've done a ton of conversions with both kits, the belly can be annoying but the eye is drawn to the actual conversion rather than the belly, such as adding hair or different weapons from other kits

@flynnhammer5311 awesome, I'd love to see some!

@@WyvernMinis they are on my instagram same handle

aw thanks! :-D

Brilliant, thank you so much!

Yeah sounds good, I liked the rough texture finish of the polyfilla on these ones, but next time I reckon I'll give that a go to get more of a flat sheet metal sort of vibe :-)

No worries, glad it was helpful!

​@WyvernMinis do you sell any of your terrain pieces? They actually look great

I'm in process of setting up an Etsy shop for 3D printing models, but very happy to do some terrain bits too. Drop me an email to [email protected] to let me know what you're interested in and I'm sure we can work something out :-)

Thanks Matt, appreciate it! Are you doing the Plaguebearer or Striking Scorpion over Wraithbone or drybrush slap chop? I liked the result over Death Guard green spray, and I was able to use washes too - I think I did a few of them with just Athonian Camoshade, which was pretty good on the green but I don't think would be so good over the bone/white undercoat as it doesn't have as much pigment as a contrast paint

@@WyvernMinis I apply them over a simplified slap chop base. Sprayed black, then drybrush wraithbone.

Yeah I like the finish when it works properly, but I've only had this problem a couple of times. I hear the other pitfall is spraying it on too thick, which I might have done with these guys as well, but I definitely didn't shake it enough. I used the same can after fixing them and it was fine with a good long shake! So I'm generally happy with it, but always looking for alternatives so what's your varnish of choice instead?

I am now trying the Armypainter one. The frosting occurs alot when there is moisture in the air. With the non spray varnishes i found out that they do not always sit properly on smooth or round surfaces.@@WyvernMinis

Use the Lamium instead of the oil/Ardcoat to sort out the varnish, or instead of the Stormshield to knock back the gloss?

For knocking back the shine, though not sure if it would help remove the whiting from the munitorum spray

Thanks Matt, appreciated :-) Didn't have to paint him any different to the other models, the textures even on the big guy mean the quick contrast and wash approach still work well

I was going to, but the KZbin advice bits say that the tags are less important than the title and description so I didn't bother - but you're right, it can't do any harm so I will! Cheers mate