This is an excellent question and valid points about compatibility. I rate things in order of importance. Most important is bike fit. Then geometry comes very close second. Those 2 things matter more than anything else when I choose a bike/frame. If those things are not where I need/want them to be the bike will not be comfortable or ride the way I want it to. From there I choose weight as the next important thing as I don't like my bikes to be overly heavy, I want them to feel relatively light and nimble. I say relatively because depending on what I intend to use the bike for, it might need to be stronger and more beefed up thus weigh a little more. Now we get to the component compatibility/standards. I refuse to buy a frame or bike with a press fit bottom bracket. That's the worst idea ever. I do wish seat posts, bars, brake mounts, and all of that stuff was all standardized. I don't think seat post diameter really ever has been since the mid 90s and maybe even not then. For the most part brake mounts, head tubes, stems, bottom brackets (PF excluded), thru axles and dropout widths have mostly become standardized. Boost is more common, but there is Super Boost on a few brands which I feel isn't needed. Of course Fat Bikes are a bit all over the place as far as standards go. So yeah, it can be painful. All and all I feel like we have settled into a good place over the last 8ish years. But the compatibility issues before that were a nightmare because things kept changing every couple of years. Hopefully things stay where they are for a while now. I don't see any major need to change things. E-Bikes are annoying because a frame is made specific to a particular motor. So if you want a specific frame but want a Bosch CX motor and battery, but that frame has a Shimano motor and battery....you are stuck with Shimano. It's annoying the bicycle manufacturers haven't demanded a standard motor mount and even a standard battery output so batteries can be interchangeable. But that's a whole other story...🤷‍♂️

Not good. I set it aside until I can get my sanity back to start working on it again...it was soooo frustrating!

It came, unfortunately I got the Vee Tires but I can always upgrade later, but my seat is all matte and nice, not sure what brand it is but says F2, only took me 2 hours to put together lol, never done it before and was awkward on my own with no help or stand, everyone said 15 minutes, took me that long to get everything out of the boxes lol

Yeah, I don't have an eBike and certainly not a Fat Bike or one with a hub motor. So your concern doesn't apply. I wouldn't want to ride e fat bike with a heavy hub motor in the snow because the added weight would just make the rear wheel dig in and certainly ruin the trail for everyone else.

I still have the Canyon frame. I will see what I like more and keep the one I like. I have a feeling the geometry on this NORCO is more in line for my riding style.

@ShadLife do you ever think we just chase things for diminishing returns?

@@g_mack Not if I am enjoying myself. I am constantly changing stuff around because I like to mess around and see how different bikes ride and feel. It's fun for me to do so.

@ShadLife thats a fair answer, Shad. Hope the new norco works out for you.

Actually, back when bicycles used to be mass produced here in the United States people were paid better liveable wages and the bicycles were affordable. Remember Schwinn? Huffy also used to make their bikes here. Yep, affordable and US made before they started outsourcing to Asia in the late 70s and early 80s. GT and Cannondale mass produced affordable bikes all the way through the 90s. When you have the facilities to be able to mass produce products you can make them affordable in the United States. The problem is, bigger companies wanted to make higher profits. It's the shareholders and those who want to not just make a profit, but continue increasing them that cause outsourcing. They want you to think it's because of higher labor costs, but it's not and it never has been. It's far more closer to greed. And the bicycle industry isn't the only industry impacted by this. It's pretty sad really. And yeah, today Asia makes the best quality bicycles because the U.S. companies basically handed to them. They literally sent experts over there to show them how to do it and they did quality control.

@@ShadLife Yeah, but I remember my parents telling me the Huffy that I wanted was too expensive but yeah totally agree with what you said about if we had more factories here to make the bikes then they would get cheaper. It makes me wonder what bikes would be like today had most major American brands stayed in the US. But I can't help but think about how things would cost the american consumer if it wasn't produced overseas....such as clothes. Definitely not advocating for sweatshop labor but would clothes made in the US (due to capitalism be even more expensive?) This world isn't fair sometimes haha

People love that aluminum fluid. It will be interesting to see what he says about the carbon version.

If my index finger is contacting and the grip goes back away from my pinky finger without me having to awkwardly turn my wrists outward that means I need less backsweep. If your bars put more contact on your pinky and less on your index fingers, then you need more backsweep. What you can do to change hand position on the bars is rotate your elbows outward away from your body. This will flatten your hands for less backsweep. If you bring your elbows in close to your sides this will rotate your hands outward and require more backsweep. Everyone is built a bit different. I personally feel very uncomfortable with my elbows in close to my body. My natural position and more comfortable feel is with my elbows out slightly. The bigger issue is, few companies make flatter bars and most are 8 - 13 degrees backsweep which doesn't feel great to me. BMX freestyle bars are all 11 - 13 degrees which is why I run the flatest race BMX bar I can find. But then they are not as strong. I was running 3 degree backsweep BMX race bars and loved how they felt. But then they cracked so now I am using 13 degree backsweep and I hate them.

Winter came...lol. As soon as Spring rolls around I will get this. I did buy a manual trainer so we will see if that helps me any.

I feel like there are those who spend a lot of time doing the setup, like Seth as Berm Peak, and then there are those who have a person filming and helping them out. I am neither one of those people...🤣

Almost all trails allow class 1 eBikes (pedal assist up to 20 MPH). Class 2 and 3.are mixed. E-Motos are definitely not allowed (like Sur Ron) as they are bicycles, they are motorcycles.

I agree. The only reason I used it was because I wanted to see what difference it made knowing I had no intention on keeping the bike. I had the fork on hand and it doesn't make sense to order a new one.