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@DANILEO-Z
@DANILEO-Z 11 күн бұрын
same for me i read it a month ago and i can’t stop thinking about it so i bought it because it’s just a part of me now ❤
@NostalgicDreamer
@NostalgicDreamer 13 күн бұрын
I wonder if these students realise how much they are despised?
@candle5676
@candle5676 14 күн бұрын
What a comebackkkk
@Hachan2002
@Hachan2002 15 күн бұрын
The more I learn about this book, the more I fall in love with it. I hope one day I can craft a brilliant story like this.
@MikeFuller-d4d
@MikeFuller-d4d 24 күн бұрын
Once for fun I tried to get a prospectus from 'All Soul's College', Oxford, having had 2 from 'Nuffield College', Oxford. I received a letter back saying that 'All Soul's College' do not recruit students but offer fellowships to remarkable students. WOW!! La creme da la creme!
@Lonely_Raven_666
@Lonely_Raven_666 Ай бұрын
5:45 I'm in high school studying ancient greek and I knowa lot about the book except I haven't read it yet, and since I've never seen it in a linrary, and I want to read it in its original language, and I can't wait to actually read it I have started the audiobook. When in the first lines of the book, we learn the murder that will happen in the end, I felt a feeling of déjà-vu, but I couldn't place it. It's only now that I realise it was because we are studying greek tragedies at the moment and they always anounce the tragic end at the beginning of the play, since what really matters is HOW they come to their end. Thanks for helping me realise what was so familiar !
@JazzCole
@JazzCole Ай бұрын
I loved your analysis! I appreciate that you explained some of the Greek and classic references that I didn't catch.
@CamsCampbellReads
@CamsCampbellReads Ай бұрын
I just finished the book for the first time and am enjoying watching reviews. I read it in three days-it’s kind of all-consuming. It was really good to get your classics-orientated review and I thank you for that.
@NostalgicDreamer
@NostalgicDreamer 2 ай бұрын
TRUMP WON. 🇺🇸
@schweinehund3497
@schweinehund3497 2 ай бұрын
If you still like ancient greek stuff: latro series by gene wolfe is SO GOOD.
@Archibald_von_Munch
@Archibald_von_Munch 2 ай бұрын
Someone going to Oxford is worried about “elitism” at particular colleges. Funny.
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@ursula-sg1kv
@ursula-sg1kv 3 ай бұрын
The thing that most stuck to my mind is when Richard got shot by Charles. Richard called the others for their attention but they didn't even give a proper reaction. This scene really tells a lot... How Richard was just standing as a bystander watching and doing nothing. So he got shot standing in the danger. It portrays the same when he just watched them commit the crime and took the consequences of it along the way...and everyone seemed to not mind him at all.
@celina4013
@celina4013 3 ай бұрын
this video felt like a massage for my brain thank you so much!
@jonathansimmonds3758
@jonathansimmonds3758 3 ай бұрын
The reverse snobbery in the UK is like nowhere else. The UK built an elite college to train the cream of the crop of the next generation of soccer players - It's applauded as being elite. Yet when it comes to a commitment to excellence at an Oxford college. It's now derided for being elitist.
@BenVaserlan
@BenVaserlan 3 ай бұрын
I suggest you wear a hat when in the sun.
@potrickborgin5930
@potrickborgin5930 4 ай бұрын
WOW!! What an adventure!
@DarkLord-iz7vk
@DarkLord-iz7vk 4 ай бұрын
'The Silence of the Girls' by Pat Barker is skillfully written and contains phrases and ideas that stay with me, but while not gory does imagine a lot of cruelties I would say not for very sensitive readers, nor for those who want to retain a romantic view of Achilles.
@khanchip
@khanchip 5 ай бұрын
fun fact there is also another obscure history text with almost the same name called Secret History of the Mongols which in tales about the reign and the life of Chinggis Khan, is supposedly accurate but it is full of mythical instances and in my opinion very unreliable narrator too, but I think its more of a coincidence than donna tartt referencing two historical text
@andreav83
@andreav83 5 ай бұрын
I finished reading this novel about a month ago and I agree - it's one that lingers. There is so much to think about that it's on my 'to be read again' pile.
@biancanuestrospears8583
@biancanuestrospears8583 5 ай бұрын
please do babel by rf kuang next
@SoLuVaBle299
@SoLuVaBle299 6 ай бұрын
I’m glad I watched this. Just finished listening to the abridged audiobook (I started listening to the unabridged version, got maybe 6 hours in, and tapped out) and was very confused about why this book is held in such high regard by many. As you have studied the classics (and hopefully have your degree by now 🤞🏿) I can see how this book would speak to you. Yours is an interesting perspective. Unfortunately, I still don’t like the book- it read like The Great Gatsby with undertones of American Psycho and a twist of Greek lit thrown in (which went completely over my head), and the rottenness of the characters was no surprise (the story did start with a murder of a “friend” after all).
@bruja2591
@bruja2591 6 ай бұрын
Anyone have insight on St Cross College?
@RachaelTodddoesbeauty
@RachaelTodddoesbeauty 7 ай бұрын
I found the part when Richard nearly dies at the happy house because he didn't realise how dangerous a winter in vermont could be, and how the effects of that winter will stay with him for every, very interesting. Ironic that he is saved by Henry Winter, who Richard can't seem to see his dangerous nature either. Just interesting I thought!
@RachaelTodddoesbeauty
@RachaelTodddoesbeauty 7 ай бұрын
Hippie *
@PEPEPEPEPEPEPEPEPEPE648
@PEPEPEPEPEPEPEPEPEPE648 8 ай бұрын
De verdad que siempre me ha parecido ridícula las competencias y bandos entre distintas universidades 😂
@desireearmstrong2291
@desireearmstrong2291 8 ай бұрын
I think Tartts discription of how George Orwell saw Julien highlights who Julien was as a person. Julien is the “charismatic leader”
@thecook8964
@thecook8964 8 ай бұрын
Questions have been raised about the death of the farmer. Did they kill him, or did a catamount ( cougar) attack him? Why all the references to catamounts in the book- street, motel, etc.? Maybe they stumbled upon the farmer, who had already been attacked. Think about the wounds.... Also got autistic vibes from Henry.
@katiehayw00d
@katiehayw00d 9 ай бұрын
can someone explain the coin on the cover of this edition? 0:35
@kurjan1
@kurjan1 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Your review is by far the best I have seen to date on KZbin. I purchased the book last week. Now I suppose I have to set about purchasing Procopius -"The Secret History"... Thank you.
@Windflower-jq6vp
@Windflower-jq6vp 10 ай бұрын
first: live your channel second: why you sound just like Emma Stone? ❤❤❤❤
@historybox1862
@historybox1862 10 ай бұрын
If I may ask, what book are you using for greek?
@jaymackie1164
@jaymackie1164 11 ай бұрын
Salve Sabrina! I love your channel and you’ve actually inspired me to learn Latin properly after dipping in and out casually for many years. I’m enjoying Duolingo and using other books and resources to self-teach. I wondered on your opinion of Duolingo as a friend of mine completed it and said he was disappointed that it only covered the present tense and found it limited? I imagine you must be very busy in your final year but I do so enjoy your videos and hope you are planning on continuing to make them? Jay 😊
@chisato9862
@chisato9862 11 ай бұрын
Did a subscribe button shine?
@eugeneperdikomati9304
@eugeneperdikomati9304 Жыл бұрын
The herodion is open to the pivlic actually
@Zikemach
@Zikemach Жыл бұрын
Great review Sabrina, I appreciated your musings on the characters and broader meaning.
@sj8569
@sj8569 Жыл бұрын
My favorite theory about this story is that the group didn’t actually kill the farmer during the bacchanal. There is so much evidence, that he was killed by a mountain lion - the body was mutilated (stomach ripped open), the news reported that there were bite marks and it looked like an animal attack, and Richard and Charles even meet the animal while they’re driving to a restaurant. None of them even remember the murder. This makes the whole story so much more tragic, because Bunny’s death would’ve never had to happen - which ultimately led to the downfall of every one in this group.
@chidzhustle3570
@chidzhustle3570 10 ай бұрын
Interesting theory, considering they were drunk and high off of every drug in the world, and admitted to not remembering anything, it could work. They could have found his body while high, and in some unintentional trippy daze, gotten his blood all over themselves, then assumed they had done it. It’s bittersweet then, kind of means the only crime they did was kill their friend.
@skittles696
@skittles696 7 ай бұрын
​@chidzhustle3570 Adding to the blood, there is a section where Camila says the farmers blood smells like deer blood. Which kinda suggests they killed a deer (as they kind of remember in a warped way) and were covered in deer blood which they mistook for the farmers who they found afterwards
@Hachan2002
@Hachan2002 15 күн бұрын
The chills I got from reading this theory…wow
@cpoet3876
@cpoet3876 2 күн бұрын
@@chidzhustle3570 the other strange thing is we no longer hear about the farmer's death. Nothing about a police investigation, suspects, nada. The farmer is dead and they assume they did it as does Bunny.
@candle5676
@candle5676 Жыл бұрын
I love howvyou spreed positively intellectual energy in your videos ❤ but i feel obligated to ask - will we see pt II of the vlog? 😭
@ranaai9990
@ranaai9990 Жыл бұрын
You're surprisingly very moral for someone into classics
@CalBruin
@CalBruin Жыл бұрын
In a future video, could you do a walkthrough Study-with-me video on how you read a translation (Greek preferred) in preparation for next day tutorials? In other words, when preparing for a session going over a translation passaged you are assigned to cover, how do you prepare? Do you write the whole text down word per word or just a gloss of the meaning or ____? Thanks.
@cypresscain
@cypresscain Жыл бұрын
this was so great! as someone who read Bacchae and The Secret History and had their brain chemistry changed by both, i loved you analysis of Bunny as Pentheus and Henry or Julian as Dionysus. it fits so well!
@metamorphos0
@metamorphos0 Жыл бұрын
Can I apply for a master’s degree in classics with a bachelor degree in French studies as an international student?
@yohanspring3076
@yohanspring3076 Жыл бұрын
I am an English literature major and I never heard of this book, till tiktok so I’ve decided to read it. I am a hardcore “dark academia” type of aesthetic. Reading this book was a very interesting experience, at the beginning it felt like a dream, I can say I felt as if I was floating. However, the more I dig in the more it started to feel like a nightmare especially when they started to plan the murder, and I applaud the author for making me feel so many feelings. I have this tendency to want to relate to a character whenever I read a novel, but in the one I couldn’t decide which one I was, they were so realistic no one was prefect. And the more I dig in the more I decided to be “the safe choice” and kept waiting for Julian to appear but him being such a “prefect” person bugged me so much, when he disappeared all sudden I realized that he was shallow, and a coward. When Henry said “I loved him more than my father” it hit me hard.
@armchairelites3627
@armchairelites3627 Жыл бұрын
just finished reading this and felt alot of similarities to crime and punishment(i havent read the greek books mentioned here, which may be of closer influence). even more so because i didnt like richard either while reading. At times i cant help but wishing they had met the same fate as rashkolnikov 😅
@alejandrasuarez5032
@alejandrasuarez5032 Жыл бұрын
What an illuminating and contextualizing review!
@lucianmec
@lucianmec Жыл бұрын
Always nice to watch your videos in preparation to advise my kids (5 and 0.8 YO😅) when the time comes
@samuelrogers8358
@samuelrogers8358 Жыл бұрын
(over) eager y11 here, hoping for classics, Love all your videos, they are all infinitely helpful and you represent classics superbly.
@spydurmonkee95
@spydurmonkee95 Жыл бұрын
I feel like we never really get a clear understanding of who and what Camilla is because Richard’s view is so skewed and even when he’s mad at her and has disturbing thoughts about her there never is a change of how she’s described to us.
@katyarozanova2878
@katyarozanova2878 Жыл бұрын
Okay but why did no one mention how you look so much like young Donna Tartt?!? Literal copy, I’m shook
@helena9698
@helena9698 Жыл бұрын
If you guys want to read something like tsh but still think about tsh every day, read The Goldfinch. It's also written by Donna Tartt and it even has francis in some scenes!