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@ryanpower1291
@ryanpower1291 19 минут бұрын
Got back into many games ive been behind in by just afk split pushing until back into the game. I mean you are gambling your team doesnt just play aram with the enemy team, and then flame you as if its your fault they cant tell they are fighting a 4v5 for nothing in return. But when you are so far behind sometimes thats what you have to do. And obviously if you just dont get yourself behind then this never happens, but some times it just be that way.
@eddsmith6187
@eddsmith6187 36 минут бұрын
Man You took the advise too literal, ofcourse You can go and fight for a dragón or baron. Perdonsally this was My strategy to climb from silver to platinum, But doesn't alwayse have to doit and also requires communication with your team, so they lnow what You are doing
@sevaneken3461
@sevaneken3461 Сағат бұрын
Not quite related with the vidéo but what the ideal lifesteal from an adc build. I play kai'sa and Vayne adc. I recently came from jungle. And i sad that most of the time if i pick more lifesteal i sacrifice some great items and vice versa. So what's the ideal amount of lifesteal i should get as an adc every game
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 31 минут бұрын
I would say you basically have these options: 1. Fleet + Absorb Life 2. Bloodline, optionally supplemented with Fleet 3. Lifesteal from Blade of the Ruined King rush, if playing an on-hit ADC 4. Bloodthirster once you have 100% or at least 75% crit. Any options from 1-3 will be enough lifesteal for the early-mid game, and option 4 will greatly boost your lifesteal lategame. BT can also function as your sole form of lifesteal if you just want to run Alacrity, but your early-mid sustain will be rough until you build it, at least Absorb Life preferably combined with Fleet Footwork is recommended.
@sevaneken3461
@sevaneken3461 21 минут бұрын
​@@VaporaDarkThanks i think with kaisa depending on the build i'll go bork wits end or bloodline. And vayne bork and wit's end would be enough. I'm still rough with my position but your vids help so much
@ioannishussein8038
@ioannishussein8038 Сағат бұрын
This leaves you with a decision. Do you have enough farm to teamfight or split push? The decision will be based on the situation you’re in. Denying enemy pushes is a major factor and winning important teamfights decides between victory and defeat. If you have enough damage and your tank or bruiser has caught a few enemies, go into teamfights. If you don’t have sufficient farm early on, you need to improve your CS to make up. Make sure to split-push when the enemies are distracted.
@huntermarquez2357
@huntermarquez2357 Сағат бұрын
how is vayne right now?(adc)
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark Сағат бұрын
Not that good I think.
@saammmv1203
@saammmv1203 2 сағат бұрын
Is that an application you are using to see those replays? Or just editing
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 2 сағат бұрын
Replay HUD is the name of the app
@gabrieleagosti8081
@gabrieleagosti8081 3 сағат бұрын
If there's an ADC that can work well with this Is surely zeri , High mobility , can escape if ganked , fast clear , can rotate to near fights , splitpudhing with jinx sound int af
@lestonclark2398
@lestonclark2398 2 сағат бұрын
Jinx at a tier 2 tower is a dead jinx for free then they gonna steam roll your team or just take all the objectives on the map for free and low elo players always force objectives which is a good thing now that jinx is dead...I don't ever past t1 as jinx..😂😂 and jinx is so good at teamfights in low elo it ain't worth split pushing...
@ekim4926
@ekim4926 3 сағат бұрын
Your handicap strat is sound, but I feel like your skills are still above that of a low elo player. Like you still reasonably know where everyone is, and unless rooted or faced an auto attack, you skill kited better than the average silver. You don't deal as much damage as you would have if you have your items, but by the time you got beserkers, not a lot of people are touching you in the first place That's just my 2cent
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 2 сағат бұрын
Obviously there is no perfect way to actually handicap myself to the skill of a silver player, but at the very least it'd be great if I can at least mitigate the 'snowball' detriment of being a higher level player in a lower level game, where the further we get into the game the less and less relevant it becomes to the average player because at that point even just my champion is capable of more things than their champion would be at that stage of the game. If I can handicap my gold to just the average for that game, then at least everything stays equally relevant from minute 1 to minute 40. Additionally, it's not always bad that I have better mechanics than my viewers. I think it is a good thing to have an example of what you should be aiming for. A lot of mechanics isn't solely about mechanical 'capabilities' but about mechanical 'habits', and they both go hand in hand. A silver player may suck at kiting compared to me, but they suck way less compared to if they didn't know what kiting is at all. When you see a high Elo player kite, if you've never seen the concept of kiting before your mind would be blown, and now you have something you can practice that you didn't before. Likewise, seeing how high Elo players dodge skillshots that they're not even reacting to, just using their own ingrained habits to keep their movement erratic, can show viewers how they should aim to move themselves.
@ekim4926
@ekim4926 2 сағат бұрын
@@VaporaDark Oh yeah, ofc, I was just watching the last game (learning Ashe btw) and thought that it's great that you limit your damage output, but I'm not doing the things that you did as well as you did, which I think you also mentioned at the end. Love your vids, btw, not just Ashe <3
@weirdestkid668
@weirdestkid668 4 сағат бұрын
So my pre watch thought about this strategy is that if your team is ahead it does not really matter whether you participate in teamfights or not but when the enemy team is strong, wins a teamfight and you are the only one alive as ADC there is just not much you can do in regards of defending or contesting objectives and add the frustration of your teammates because you didnt group and you are probably looking at a lost game.
@jxstified7558
@jxstified7558 4 сағат бұрын
I think this is right and Im going to do it, as a low elo adc main I watch all these challenger players telling me what is the right play and doing my very best to copy them when in reality I should soak that info up for if I ever climb higher and for now just do something like this which is technically the wrong way to play it but no one gives af about macro in my elo.
@FlaminVictini
@FlaminVictini 4 сағат бұрын
I had that same video in my recommended feed and didn’t click on it because I just had a feeling it would be questionable at best. Also I know why I suck at adc lmao. Thanks for the content mate and I appreciate your respectful tone and open mindedness approaching different points of view. Other people would have dismissed the skill capped video entirely or attacked them directly. Keep up the good work
@weirdestkid668
@weirdestkid668 16 сағат бұрын
any tips for Lucians waveclear? It looks so smooth when you farm
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 5 сағат бұрын
Just try and line up your Q to hit as much of the wave as possible I guess. Or were you referring to something else?
@stepanlebedev9081
@stepanlebedev9081 20 сағат бұрын
1:46:11 ???????? what
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 19 сағат бұрын
The river is considered to be at a lower height compared to the rest of the map. The game has a ZY axis for visual purposes only (for whatever reason). The visual of the skillshot, if you slow the clip down, is actually nowhere near where my mouse was when I cast it. The disconnect between the high ground/low ground makes my skillshot appear further down than it was, making the hitbox look ridiculous when really it's the visual that's completely wrong, and the hitbox was fine at hitting her.
@techxxnews
@techxxnews 23 сағат бұрын
it would be nice if you could talk more about your decision making during the game, such as macro decisions, trading, etc.. rather than items and higher elo stuff
@valde2609
@valde2609 Күн бұрын
This is a normal game on a silver 2 account.. Why make “guides” from such a low elo acc
@valde2609
@valde2609 Күн бұрын
What elo is This?
@prussia9255
@prussia9255 Күн бұрын
At 13:31 if you look closely you can see the middle of the cursor turns red. This indicates that target champions only was turned on, preventing you from clicking on yuumi
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark Күн бұрын
You're completely right, I forgot Yuumi is a parasite not a champion. Rookie mistake.
@zyosgaming
@zyosgaming Күн бұрын
I think you didn’t activate your armor item when kayn ulter you. I think you got 2x split solo towers netting you around 2k incl waves and solo xp to stand a chance late game. If you grouped kayn would have killed you so much easier under levelled with less items with even less farm. So games are unwinable but you gave yourself the best chance.
@yuenchunlong102
@yuenchunlong102 2 күн бұрын
Put the playspeed to 1.25, it's more comfortable
@JjlongjhonBenis
@JjlongjhonBenis 2 күн бұрын
Man if you’re doing Lucian it’s only right to do Samira
@Ericoide
@Ericoide 2 күн бұрын
make another one of Samira please
@richmusick4881
@richmusick4881 2 күн бұрын
instructions unclear, you're literally 24/2 at 27 minutes with over 250 cs. my suggestion is to let an actual bronze 2 play the first 20 minutes of the game before you take over, and then we see how you carry the game from that point as adc
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 2 күн бұрын
That would be fun and very educational for sure! Just a little impractical unfortunately.
@kesegoe9488
@kesegoe9488 2 күн бұрын
4:40 man pls just fistbump its a free 5% increase to winrate i swear
@iuliazat
@iuliazat 2 күн бұрын
Right it makes me so sad every time 😅
@petrovkabahterovic-pu2ut
@petrovkabahterovic-pu2ut 2 күн бұрын
Mhm
@AW2111A
@AW2111A 2 күн бұрын
No needed to flash noc R, you're literally super ahead and could burst him.
@KingVasuki
@KingVasuki 2 күн бұрын
Man, it's kind of validating seeing the first and fourth games, where the team's null macro just becomes too heavy to carry. As someone who's been in that situation a lot and is not nearly as good as Vapora, it makes me feel a bit less bad about my losses. The only thing that still feels bad is seeing bronze-level macro play in Platinum players. What is up with that!?
@SnorcoArtworks
@SnorcoArtworks 2 күн бұрын
Hey Vapora Dark! I made a thumbnail for this video and i sent on your mail. I hope you will like it.
@donovinkelly2943
@donovinkelly2943 2 күн бұрын
Day 50 of asking for senna adc 🙏
@MidoCounters
@MidoCounters 2 күн бұрын
I also saw that skillcapped video. I dunno about that one chief 😅. You need your team to be aware of the split and try to stay alive and secure objectives as you play decoy, but your team will also have a hard time securing said objectives without DPS. But then again, any strategy could work if you use it in the right circumstances.
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 2 күн бұрын
I'm doing a longer video about the skillcapped strat 👀Stay tuned!
@taewoods2034
@taewoods2034 2 күн бұрын
Aye man I need that ezreal guide. He's so hard lol
@stefanuscoetzee
@stefanuscoetzee 2 күн бұрын
Man, I love this long videos! ❤
@starwave9962
@starwave9962 2 күн бұрын
Please teach kogmaw in low elo :D
@AW2111A
@AW2111A 2 күн бұрын
Learn kiting. Done.
@nassim2580
@nassim2580 3 күн бұрын
Is it better to actually counter pick or rather play someone you're really comfortable with? And i always go mid after first destryoing their turret but idk why what's the explanation just to have more impact on the map and objectives?
@MidoCounters
@MidoCounters 2 күн бұрын
As you're learning the game, it's a good idea to play as few champions as possible (play whoever you like best) so you get familiar with matchups, then try expanding your champion pool little by little to account for bad matchups or to improve lane synergy. It's good for ADC to farm mid after laning phase because it's the safest lane to cover and you can move to fights happening in other lanes the fastest from there, since you want to be with the team as the AD carry. But of course, other laners may not rotate and mindlessly farm whatever is in front of them, so we also have to adapt to our teammate's choices (or lack thereof).
@YuriNoel7
@YuriNoel7 Күн бұрын
You should stick to someone you’re comfortable with as counterpicking can backfire if you don’t know how to actually play the counterpick. Plus with marksmen I think counterpicks matter a bit less because a good/well played support pick can help even it out.
@derionanderun946
@derionanderun946 3 күн бұрын
pls make a SIVIR in Low Elo!!!
@Sebastian-fq2yt
@Sebastian-fq2yt 2 күн бұрын
Just perma push lane get 9-10 cs/min and win at 20-25 min
@Anythingiwant1939
@Anythingiwant1939 3 күн бұрын
Wait you’re half deaf? Bro same lol was born deaf on my right side, because of it gaming is so hard when it comes to fps as directional sound is so important so I try to play games where sound isn’t as important.
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 3 күн бұрын
Not usually, my left ear was just blocked almost all day yesterday. It randomly unblocked in the very last game haha.
@fotispantazidis9500
@fotispantazidis9500 3 күн бұрын
A pleasant break from work. Thanks man for your regular content! Do you think Quinn adc is viable?
@user-ic3op2kr6l
@user-ic3op2kr6l 3 күн бұрын
Absolutely loving your new format of the explanation at the start mate! Such valuable insights as to how the champions work and helps when you have a pool of a few adcs and are struggling to decide what will work best in your current team comp/enemy team comp. Seems like a such a small addition but it is immensely insightful! Thanks for constantly improving your content!
@sorgair
@sorgair 3 күн бұрын
wtf was that malz ult 2:08:56 ?? according to wiki it has a .005 cast time but thats faster than the tickrate
@nicenate4653
@nicenate4653 3 күн бұрын
I think the explaining of what the champ does well and where she’s good and where does not was a good idea and would be nice to see at the beginning of every vid like this one so players know when their champ is strong and when they are not
@MatheusOliveira-kd6jn
@MatheusOliveira-kd6jn 3 күн бұрын
Those rough games were so relatable. The frustration is so real but seeing how you just keep playing and saving your mental is really motivating.
@blairwest5962
@blairwest5962 3 күн бұрын
Hey Vapora. Great videos. I love varus, but I tend to lean more towards the on hit build. I struggle when I play lethality poke. Any tips to help?
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 3 күн бұрын
I would need more to go off of than that. In what way do you struggle?
@blairwest5962
@blairwest5962 2 күн бұрын
@@VaporaDark I sometimes feel like I lose track of my q during skirmishes and teamfights. I either charge it too much and get engaged on while trying to find the perfect target or I pop it too quick because im running from a fight. My damage seems to be considerably lower when I play the build. I dont know if thats because I undervalue W stacks when I play poke or just from not landing the poke often enough
@allergicdodo7269
@allergicdodo7269 3 күн бұрын
6:15 you only haad to press u
@borwinbandelow2781
@borwinbandelow2781 3 күн бұрын
1:35:25 The sound you made after missing the cannon. So relatable.
@ca1ixo544
@ca1ixo544 3 күн бұрын
i'm trying to learn aphelios (as a noob) and i love how you talk through your thought process throughout the games, it's super helpful :) please never stop uploading videos <3
@saaltysenpai8418
@saaltysenpai8418 3 күн бұрын
Hello! My boyfriend and I watch your videos and they have really helped us! He has started playing aphelios and I'm a rakan/soraka main. In the first game in the beginning would it have helped for the soraka to position more aggressively? I felt like she could have helped win more trades and get better vision. Also do you find soraka to be a decent support with aphelios?
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 3 күн бұрын
Glad you both enjoy the content! Reviewing a bit of the early laning I don't think there was any need for Soraka to position aggressively. Overall we wanted to minimize trading against Draven so passive positioning worked fine. Maybe there was something she could have done to prevent Janna having sole control of the lane brushes and spamming invisible tornados at us, but it might have been too risky since getting hit by a Janna tornado against Draven basically kills her or forces Flash every time. The only misstep I noticed from her was positioning a mile away from me during the fight at 7:40, but that was more down to underestimating Aphelios's blue-white damage rather than bad positioning skills. If I didn't have good dueling weapons, we both should have backed off there. I do actually quite like Soraka with Aphelios, although this might not have been the best lane for it. She's good into mage supports, and is good anti-burst for dealing with short range lockdown supports; but not good for dealing with hook supports who pull Aphelios away from her, or can reach her with their engages. Here though I think we both picked too weak early champions against Draven, we needed something that could stand against Draven more effectively. The fact that Draven being 1/0 with only a 2x Long Sword advantage over me was already enough for her to feel that we could no longer match the enemy bot lane even in a bigger wave and had to abandon our farm (which she would have been right about if I didn't have those weapons), leaving us in a position where we ccould no longer last-hit without getting our jungler to come hold our hand, is a testament to how weak our lane phase was. We couldn't get away with picking that much scaling against Draven, was why that didn't work out. Sometimes you need a support with a strong enough early game that you can at least approach the wave and farm, which Soraka doesn't provide against such a strong all-in champion such as Draven. If she picked Soraka vs Draven I needed to pick a stronger ADC who could stand against him, or if I picked Aphelios vs Draven, then she needed to pick a stronger support who could help me stand against him.
@saaltysenpai8418
@saaltysenpai8418 3 күн бұрын
@@VaporaDark This was incredibility helpful thank you for taking the time to reply to me! I definitely agree during 7:40 she should have been there I found that really strange. Your explanation changed the way I see matchups and your knowledge of them is something I'm always impressed by. Its really helped when playing support so I can understand what the adc needs to win. I find your videos to be extremely entertaining and education from a support point of view.
@MidoCounters
@MidoCounters 4 күн бұрын
Those Varus games came at a good time, considering my abysmal win rate with him 😂.
@slaternitta1824
@slaternitta1824 4 күн бұрын
not sure if you do this already but what do you think about running double ad shards? I think besides jhin, aphelios is one of the few adcs that it feels viable on because of his passive atk speed and it also sort of negates the nerf they did a while ago to his passive ad
@VaporaDark
@VaporaDark 4 күн бұрын
It's fine if you start W, but I like even more starting W as well as taking the attack speed shard. It helps a LOT for pushing for level 2, and even for trading/fighting at level 1. The adaptive shard scales better because your AD scaling increases throughout the game (crit + IE more than doubles your AD scaling per auto, AD scaling increases at level 6 when you unlock ult, all your AD ratios scale with levels until level 13). But for me I just prefer being stronger early.
@slaternitta1824
@slaternitta1824 4 күн бұрын
@@VaporaDark ah i see, i just wanted to see what your opinion was since i noticed you started putting additional points into w pre 6. anyways appreciate the videos man keep up the good work 👍
@antoinetheissen4308
@antoinetheissen4308 4 күн бұрын
Hi thanks for the quality content on aphe, i discovered you on the ultimate aphe books on mobalytics and it turns out that i love this champ, i was a former toplaner and switching to bot as an aphe main few weeks ago is one of my best decision. i love your channel and all the things you offer. Thanks
@Rikamiza
@Rikamiza 4 күн бұрын
Youre my Favorite aphelios player, u need ur own skin for him based on you 😂❤
@ioannishussein8038
@ioannishussein8038 4 күн бұрын
That looked like an Aphelios champie in the thumbnail!