Nice! You're getting quick! I managed to get my time down to a 22.069 in this race in kart 12. Hard to say what is fastest right now. 2 was good in this race as well. I know kart 4 had some work done recently.

@@skracing17 I like Kart 4 cause the brakes are good. I feel like some karts have really bad brakes and they mess up my braking points

Yeah. They are not all the same. Some brakes feel like they barely grab, some grab really quick. It's a bit of a crap shoot.

#6 is awesome, you should definitely ask for it next time. You can trust me, I'd never lie! (I'm lying)

Yeah, stay away from 6. 😂 That kart is full of frustration.

What has kept you away recently?

@skracing17 we have been away since October 2022. I never came back since then. Neither has my co driver at the time. He's faster than me and a level above me. Life has been busy and both our schedules have changed. So Thursday night hasn't worked in our favour.

We are out here just enjoying ourselves!

@@skracing17 with that being said. For the love of motorsport. Who cares about the price. Just enjoy yourself.

The post on your right is a great brake marker. You'll want to brake just before it and have your kart positioned near it. You also don't want to use max braking force. Try to use 75% brake pressure. It is a tricky corner that usually gives you a poor exit.

I would say pick out brake and turn in markers so you can develop consistency. It's easier to attack the corners when you have a consistent marker that you can adjust braking distances for example. I am working on a guide for TBC. Stay tuned!

I can do that. I have one sort of in the works.

Hahah for real.

I kind of felt that too. Beginning of the race my kart was hard to turn because of cold tires. But that went away after 5 mins. The rear also had a slight shudder that would create oversteer from apex to exit. Turn 3 felt slippery for me the whole race. I had grip everywhere else.

@@skracing17 and idk if it’s just me but it was more difficult to trail brake of out the first chicane

Yeah, good to be back. Definitely missed racing with the gang. Getting some new faces too.

You guys did pretty good. Thanks for coming out! See you again.

What happened to kart 4? We don't get to choose our karts. We draw from a box for the enduro. 20, 17, 14, 10, 5, and 1 all got times between 21.8xx and 22.1xx for last thursday's race. 20 and 5 both dipped into the 21's.

@@skracing17 oh I see. I asked for kart 4 when we walked in the last two times and they said that it’s not in the warehouse rn. Idk what happened exactly but I didn’t get a chance to try that kart

Ah bummer. I didn't get a chance driving that kart either. But hopefully there are still some quick ones. The enduro ran last night but the times all look really slow. :(

@@skracing17 do you know what the fastest lap was yesterday?

Yeah. The fastest lap last night was a 22.251.

It was a rougher race for sure. But sometimes it's better to bump draft rather than go for a sketchy pass and lose even more time battling.

Yeah. Looked like you got spun into 3 on lap 1 but hard to see.

Facts. 😂

Haha, yeah some karts are questionable. I seem to be on a string of getting poor karts lately. You did pretty well out there, fun racing with you too. Come out again.

Sometimes you get a crappy kart, other times crappy kart gets you 😅

He turned out to be a pretty good racer. I hope he comes out again.

Thanks for the comment! Sorry, I don't speak any French but the translate seemed to work well. What is you lap time so far? Some tips: -You only brake for the right hand corner after the straight. -Turn 1 you only need to lift very little. -Turn 4 (hairpin onto straight) lift slightly before entry, full throttle at apex. -Last right hand corner before start/finish, Lift and coast, then full throttle after the apex. Good luck!

My time record is 25 seconds.... but it was my first time on this track and I came across your video! Thanks you so much!

It's a fun little track with with a couple little intricate things. It reminds me of my home track. Pretty similar laps times too. Hope you are able to improve on your next outings!

Thanks you so much for your time ! Continue like that!

Yes it is! Hopefully we get some more people out for some good racing!

​@skracing17 it's gonna take time for the old regulars to brush up their skills.

Only a couple of races. I think temp is playing a bigger role than rustiness. It's going to be hot next week so a 22.0xx will be a fast time.

Yeah I can see that. But I wouldn't consider you slow. Definitely part of the fast group that goes to enduros. 👍🏻

What was your time? Just curious cause I want to see if that would be me if I was I was in a race with SK 😂

He did a 22.4xx that night. Just come out. These enduros get you faster. You can also share the kart with a friend or 2. Doing an hour long race for the first time is quite tiring. As long as people are aware of what's going on around them on track, we have zero issues with anyone coming.

@@skracing17 man if I had to race 60 minutes my hands might fall off

I use to race without gloves for years and years even in the winter. My fingers would feel like they were burning.

Ah missed that. 22.047 this time. Not quite back into the 21's yet.

@@skracing17I’ve learnt how to apply the trail breaking technique into turn 2 from you! Although I only got 22.9

@@skracing17also what is the requirement for enduros?

That's awesome!

I'm pretty sure a 23.5xx is the required time.

It's definitely not an ideal place to make a pass but how do you not go for it when you have such overspeed right? Lol.

Yeah I can work on something like that. I have thought about doing a track guide. Lets see what I come up with.

@@skracing17 you’re awesome I’ll keep an eye for that

@@skracing17 also if you make a video like that, can you explain weight shifting and when to use it?

Turn 3, I brake hard when the kart is straight and use a little weight transfer for turn in. Turn 6, usually no brakes and just use lift off oversteer for entry. Sometimes I am very light on the brakes. Turn 8, about 50% brake pressure. I brake enough to get the kart to rotate then manage throttle to the apex then full throttle. Stabbing the brakes to get rotation works too but at a slower speed.

It would be a good time!

@skracing17 I will let you know if and when it happens but I won't tell you here. And it will happen on a Sunday.

Let all your Enduro buddies know. But only 12 can participate as you know why

Me and a few friends went up there specifically for their enduro event. This was last october on thanksgiving. So yeah, went there just for the track. Cool town though. Will be back there again for the next october enudro.

I use a hero10, no case mounted to my helmet.

Yeah sorry to hear that man. They had been threatening to cancel the enduro on us for like a year. They eventually priced us out of going. They don't care for competitiveness, just dollars.

@@skracing17 Well, if you ever need an extra one for sessions. send me a pm.

Then enduro is back again. They dropped their price.

@@skracing17 So how does it work.. I need to pull together a team? The website say 120.. is that the team or individually?

A team is not required. Most of us do solo drives but an hour straight can be very tiring. I'm not sure about the $120. We were told and have been paying $105. But that is the "team" price. I would split with a friend to start.

It is quite a cool track. Worth the trip.

Thanks for the comment. It's been a blast racing here. The only place you can actually race. I hope the videos have helped you. Always willing to give some tips when needed. I do have some other videos from TBC from past years I want to upload. But unfortunately nothing will be new unless I can find my race pass and finish those off.

Pretty sure the enduro will die now. They had been trying to kick us out for like a year. And it feels like because 2 of us decided to go every other week that that was their chance to pressure us and stop us from coming.

Their races are ridiculously expensive now. $41 for 6 mins on track.. That is absurd.

​​ @skracing17 I don't know why they want to do something so slimy like kick you guys and the club out.

They got upset that one night 2 of is weren't there, there was only 5 racers signed up and they decided to still run the race instead of cancelling ahead of time. It's poor management. Back in the day they would cancel races if they didn't have enough racers. Don't know why they don't do that now.

@skracing17 there is always a constant change in management every year or two.

Hey there. I have a couple braking points. I only brake for 2 corners. The rest of the corners are either full throttle or you are managing your throttle through the corner. Turn 3 (the new corner) I look for the post on the right side (near the overhead walkway. I brake when my front bumper is level with the post. So braking a little before until you feel comfortable is a good way to go. I also brake for turn 8 which is the left hander on the back straight. There are some cracks in the floor that go across the track. I'm braking in between the 2 cracks. They can be hard to see at first. Turn 6 (pit entry) you just need to lift off and turn in then get back on throttle.

I do have a couple. For the new corner on the front "straight"(turn 3), I am braking when my kart gets level with the post on the right. You need to be good on your brakes though or you'll easily lock up. Lift off throttle a kart length before the post and dial it in. Turn 6 (pit entry) is positioning your kart correctly (just left of center of track) and maybe light brake for half a second or just lift and get back on throttle at the apex. It's more of a feel the grip kind of corner. And then turn 8 on the back straight. There are 2 cracks in the concrete and go across the width of the track within 10 feet of the post at the apex. I brake in between and turn in at the 2nd crack.

It's a difficult one. It can be hard to figure out when you become lap traffic and the track marshalls don't throw blue flags. Not throwing blue flags creates a lot of risky passes.

Haha. Thought I would try some. If the video is under a min it auto makes it a short. Yeah definitely got squeezed bad. I should have seen the gap closing too though. I didn't start backing out until we made contact. He's been good to race with since then.

@@skracing17 yeah, but any reasonable person wouldn't have expected to not be squeezed there and by the time it's noticeable he's not going to leave you space I think it was too late for you to react. Personally I put 100% of the blame on him. Good thing he's gone on to be a good person to race with after, though.

I took more or less normal line through the last turn before start-finish, and I thought there could be no way you could be alongside just a few meters after the exit, so I didn't even bother to check on my left... And I recall I didn't even think myself in the wrong here back then, because I thought however it was they must have been barely overlapping with my kart... But from your vid I can clearly see you were actually WAY alongside... Oops.

Yeah, you were on the right line and I tried to make something happen because the marshalls pretty much never throw blue flags. The funny thing for me is I didn't realize it was you until yesterday. Lol.

Lol and I didn't realize it was you until yesterday Yeah it would be hard for marshalls to keep track of everything on a short track... It was my first race (enduro), I had no idea if I was being lapped or if it's for position Well 100% my fault there, apologies. Hope you didn't get hurt

Do the slowest ones in your enduros go up to the 23.x?

@@sparky240fps7Yeah they do. Last 2 or 3 enduros we have had a guy in the 23's. I would say that we only get like 1 maybe 2 drivers in the range that come once and a while.

Usually 6-8 of us doing 22 sec lap times.

Get your braking done in a straight line and you should get a stable entry. I'm braking around or just after the post on the right for turn 2. But lifting before the post by a kart length or 2 then braking after the post is a good method too.

@@skracing17 thanks man

Yeah 3rd layout. I miss the original layout. Low 28 second lap times. More corners/hairpins.

Thanks. Having the stabilizer is a huge difference. The other videos are almost unwatchable now lol.

Thanks for the comment! The layout at TBC doesn't change for any special events. They run a consistent layout. This is currently the 3rd layout TBC has ever used. So all the times on the website are correct. Low 23's is not far off. Listen to your rpms (don't let them get too low), listen to the tires and get good on the brakes.

I'm not sure if they have a cut off time for the enduro anymore but it's a great time to get faster.

I am braking into that corner. Not a lot of braking, but enough to get the kart rotating. There are a couple of cracks in the ground that I use for braking and turn in (they are hard to see in the video). You want to take a late apex so you can be full throttle through the last 2 corners.

Yes, what I said. 👆🏻

Thanks. It was a pretty fun race. Lap traffic can be a little annoying though haha.

@@skracing17 I just moved to BC for over a year now and discovered this place. Maybe I’ll run into you in one of the enduro nights🤣🤣

That's cool man. Good chance you'll see me there when you go. My friends and I are there regularly. Book in advance, the enduros are always busy.

It's such a joke. around 22 seconds a lap is such a tiny track. just so they can make space for a side business!

Yeah I hear ya. I think the track has been ruined. Passing is almost impossible now. No more speed in the karts since the front straight has been shortened so much. The new management is garbage. There are other places in the building so do a side gig with.

TBC no longer has the fastest karts in the lower mainland like they claim they are.

​@@skracing17are there any better alternatives in the lower mainland? I just went yesterday and agree the track change sucks. Also, I've been eyeing your record for a while. Damn you're fast.

Haha thanks. :p There are a couple other indoor tracks but TBC is better.. Speeders (electric) is a few blocks from TBC but they don't let you race other people. It's more time trial based. There's also Fast Track in Langley. It's been a while since I was there and the karts were incredibly slow. I heard they might be moving to electric.

1000% agree.

This is in Canada. On the west coast.

Vancouver

I was doing 25.000-25.400 that night. Fastest lap was 24.9xx.

@@skracing17 Wow! Fast!

Thanks haha. We try to have real good quality racing in the enduros. We have a good group forming.

Then are you even racing? :p