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@RobinsAssistant
@RobinsAssistant 9 күн бұрын
How are you beating Maliss
@kengy603
@kengy603 8 күн бұрын
@@RobinsAssistant g1 going second it will be tough to do. Post side it’s easy to deal with.
@ddbros789
@ddbros789 14 күн бұрын
I’m not sure if I comepletly agree with your build but playing fancy is a good idea cause bricking on engraver feels bad
@kengy603
@kengy603 14 күн бұрын
@@ddbros789 playing fancy? The 3 card package creates zero bricks. Playing one engraver is a brick and you can’t make Desirae so I’m confused on how that would be better
@andresdiazii1744
@andresdiazii1744 14 күн бұрын
My only critique is you must include 3 imperm with your board breakers
@kengy603
@kengy603 14 күн бұрын
@@andresdiazii1744 issue with imperm is post SUDA it does not stop detonator. They just chain pop twin summon detonator. I get for hitting duo drive but if they then have extender to make detonator you lose. If you want it to be used as a hand trap you might as well tailor your entire tech cards to be handtraps
@ShroomOfSorrow
@ShroomOfSorrow 14 күн бұрын
i would like to see which combo lines you go for, since in my build atm I'm finding both selene and cross sheep pretty mandatory to end on the best end board with any of the 13/15 one card combos
@andresdiazii1744
@andresdiazii1744 14 күн бұрын
Cross sheep and Selene? What does the end board look like
@ShroomOfSorrow
@ShroomOfSorrow 14 күн бұрын
@andresdiazii1744 Lightless shadow + illia + desirae + diabell + sp + sinful set
@kengy603
@kengy603 14 күн бұрын
@@ShroomOfSorrow playing crossheep just plays you into nib. While it is cool I find what it adds to the combo as win more. If I was more committed to a link package selene would be in there. The extra is super tight to be including cards that you don’t use every game
@ShroomOfSorrow
@ShroomOfSorrow 14 күн бұрын
@@kengy603 I do not know which crossheep combos have you tested out but the one i am going for goes for both crystal wing and illia before the crossheep, making it quite nib proof, at least in pure, I have not tested that yet on the fiendsmith version
@jayjay111993
@jayjay111993 12 күн бұрын
@@ShroomOfSorrowdo you have a deck list for the pure version without the fiendsmith? I’d like to see it if possible
@AntiYami
@AntiYami 15 күн бұрын
Nice Content. Thanks for the Shoutout and Subbed. We are still learning more about the deck. My focus now it just Topping the YCS. Chorozo is a neat card. I think I like it better in the pure/toy list but not in the Fiendsmith list. It just plays into the Charmys or droll in games 2 and 3. Still something to think about. I think it would be played 100% in the Next wave of broken support. Still a nice list.
@AntiYami
@AntiYami 15 күн бұрын
But it is still worth testing.
@kengy603
@kengy603 15 күн бұрын
@@AntiYami ya I don’t think it’ll end up being in the list. The deck is consistent enough. Mainly talked about it cuz there’s another spreadsheet going around using vision resonator to make the lvl 6 WF synchro and chorozo is just infinitely better than that
@timothyscahill9451
@timothyscahill9451 16 күн бұрын
Do maliss next
@kengy603
@kengy603 16 күн бұрын
Breh I’m dead
@NoImWillStream
@NoImWillStream 16 күн бұрын
Love the content brother, keep it up. OG WF duelist here
@kengy603
@kengy603 16 күн бұрын
video starts at 56 seconds for some reason. Sorry about the poor editing.
@miwindus1687
@miwindus1687 26 күн бұрын
I think you explained really well why this version is better than pure, congrats on your top. But Im not playing Plug in it sucks
@kengy603
@kengy603 18 күн бұрын
@@miwindus1687 yes no plugin. In this point in the meta the list has changed immensely. This was start of the meta as time goes on lists become more solved.
@batsmak2506
@batsmak2506 3 ай бұрын
Hey someone else found the Vision Resonator line! I've been messing with a similar build, and one thing I've been looking into is normal summoning Ash Blossom or Ghost Ogre when you open Engraver without other engine. Conveniently Desirae is a level 9, so you can fuse into it instead of Aerial Eater, normal your level 3 tuner hand trap, and synchro directly into Auxila that way. Later in your combo you can make the Agnumday with Sequence and then revive the Desirae there, with a potential 5-card negate. Also fun is that you can send away the equips with True Awakening if you're playing it. I'm finding myself very often ending on Auxila + Desirae with 2 equips, True Awakening set, and another 12 synchro at the ready and Primus in GY, without even using Wake up and Phalanx yet (Oath set True Awakening). The big trade-off is of course you're tossing out a hand trap, and you don't have the ability to Lacrima revive Agnumday into summoning Engraver, which is very nice for easy Chaos Angel. I'm still not certain which line is actually better, but it's something to think about.
@kengy603
@kengy603 3 ай бұрын
@@batsmak2506 thanks for sharing! I have been forced into doing so in some games on ladder. Haven’t found myself doing it opening hand but I’m sure the situation can arise where it is necessary. I’m thinking about doing another video post Niagara to explain the deck in a little more detail. Potentially vod reviews. This video was a very starter point to the list and combos. I had testing partners playing it at Niagara so I didn’t want to over share too much on the capabilities
@zionow27
@zionow27 3 ай бұрын
Really nice, thx man
@aresgodofwar96
@aresgodofwar96 3 ай бұрын
is this a dragon deck?
@Avid_Listener
@Avid_Listener 3 ай бұрын
How do you join the fb group?
@kengy603
@kengy603 3 ай бұрын
@@Avid_Listener search it on Facebook request to join answer some questions then an admin approves you
@babrad
@babrad 3 ай бұрын
I wrote down this play a while ago and now got recommended this video. Great display. Personally I use it a bit differently depending on Caesar/Sheep etc in the extra, if you need the normal summon or if you have a handtrap to spare as a normal summon. Aerial Eater in the GY can special summon itself by banishing the 2 Engravers if you need an additional lvl6 body. You can even play Cross Sheep and make your lvl12 + a spare body into a lvl10 synchro this way when Aerial Eater is summoned because Sheep will revive Primera. However extra deck is too tight. If you need a lvl4 or lvl6 body on the opponent's turn without using Aerial Eater, when you use Sequence for Eater you shuffle back double Engraver and leave Requiem and Lacrima (lvl4) in the GY. Then on the opponent's turn you can use Lacrima's quick effect to revive Requiem and requiem's quick effect to summon either Lacrima (she shuffles itself in the deck) or Engraver (all are in the deck) to get a LIGHT lvl4/6 on demand for a Chaos Angel play with Trudea or any lvl10 using Atrii/Primera. Lacrima will also chainblock and mill Engraver for followup playing around stuff such as a Sauravis if you happen to face Voiceless.
@kengy603
@kengy603 3 ай бұрын
Why you leaking all the guuu 🙈🙈
@ArchfiendHD
@ArchfiendHD 3 ай бұрын
Thoughts on the PUNK engine to get to the Synchro 8 Centur-ion?
@kengy603
@kengy603 3 ай бұрын
@@ArchfiendHD the punk engine was the other variant that we were testing. Issue that we have with it is you need to play a significant amount of punk cards or else you draw them and they are bricks/hinder your combo. Playing a significant amount of punk cards limits amount of going second cards/centurion engine that you can play. We felt that the genericness of the fiendsmith engine also provided more value than the utility options you get from the punk cards. One thing the punk engine does better is putting up a negate on the 5th summon. Fiendmsith can do so with casaer but if you do that, that’s all it really offers. The next video I post will be about how to play through nibiru using the FS and cent engines.
@persephonexiv3341
@persephonexiv3341 3 ай бұрын
Nice seeing someone toying around with this engine. I had a similar idea with evil hero adusted gold + sinister necrom, to go into the lyna/new magistus line into the new centurion synchro. At last I think it's not that worth the bricks though. A 5 card Kash engine w/ terraforming can be run to help break boards or punish a handtrap on ur trudea/primera going first, it can also give you an sp line to dodge nib, in tandem with crossouts to ensure ur combo resolves. Or a bystial engine with regained + dis pater can help at extending ur plays. Another mention worth talking bout are going a bit above 40, something like 43-44 with 2 desires + 1 Prosperity. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this vid, I definitely enjoyed it.
@kengy603
@kengy603 3 ай бұрын
apprecaite the comment! Funny enough the whole process we went through to get to this combo actually started with Eater send Sinister to get adusted. That was our line before my friend who plays a pile deck said to me that he was using eater to send resonator. Thats how we got to the line in the video. All those other ideas are nice but the deck is already super tight for fitting another engine into it. Then you miss out on drawing the pieces you do want to see. One thing we have messed with is going to 44 with max 13 centurion and max fiendmsith starters plus 2-3 hand traps. More testing needs to be done with it, but it follows the same logic as the 44 card SE FS list from nats. Same math.
@marcochiesa6356
@marcochiesa6356 3 ай бұрын
i dont get why playing scarlet if u can still do this combo without her, she looks like a brick to me
@kengy603
@kengy603 3 ай бұрын
I did not look at the line without scarlet.. the difference is that without her Tractus does not equal combo. Tractus by itself is one body short from combo. You could still make casaer from a single tract, but if you dont have engine it isnt doing much. Definitely something to think about though. Thank you for bringing it up.
@marcochiesa6356
@marcochiesa6356 3 ай бұрын
@@kengy603 oh yeah i didn't think about tract being 1cc, i will test with and without her fs
@kengy603
@kengy603 3 ай бұрын
@@marcochiesa6356 another line you miss out on without is any FS card being a 1 card Chaos angel. You also miss out on the shuffle as on opponents turn which can be very crazy turn 3
@TheLordMillenium
@TheLordMillenium 3 ай бұрын
Im curious how this compares to the Superheavy engine. It seems to me like you would have a similar number of stextendernd garnets, but with an extra downside of having to use it before any spells, but the extra upside of being about 2 dollars
@kengy603
@kengy603 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLordMillenium if one of your key factors is budget I agree SHS can be used. From a pure competitive make the deck be as good as can be stand point Fiendsmith is far superior due to the generic access to the engine.
@marcochiesa6356
@marcochiesa6356 3 ай бұрын
i feel like fiendsmith are better going second tho
@TheLordMillenium
@TheLordMillenium 3 ай бұрын
@@marcochiesa6356 They could be. I don't have any actual experience with them tbh
@kengy603
@kengy603 3 ай бұрын
@@marcochiesa6356 I would agrue they are both better going second or first seeing that any two bodies equals 3 lvl 12s. You can also play really important cards such as imperm and cosmic. The superheavy engine warps deck building where you make concessions to include it where Fiendsmith does the same thing without those. I understand budget is a key thing to people. Thats why I did not write off SHS. From the perspective of you taking this to a YCS and trying to top Fiendsmith is for sure better.
@cero9391
@cero9391 3 ай бұрын
Fiendsmith engine helps you more than just one card combo, if you open really good, plus engraver, you can into caesar first for nib proof, the fiendsmith engine will also eat a lot of interruptions before even start your engine, and going second it can help you break boards... it is also live in the grind game due to the amount of recovery... SHS is an amazing engine for synchro decks for its budget, but for the competitive play, there is no comparison.
@donaxygo
@donaxygo 3 ай бұрын
really interesting 🤔 was already playing around with centurion fiendsmith for post rota and was struggling with consistency a bit, so this is exactly what i needed
@kengy603
@kengy603 3 ай бұрын
@@donaxygo thanks! Maybe we can get you off those Runick cards now lol
@Garalor
@Garalor 4 ай бұрын
you dont need to play link3 with wake up. because oath into trudea line does not need normal summon. so you can just normal summon the vision resonator
@kengy603
@kengy603 4 ай бұрын
@@Garalor arguably using your NS in the combo < not using your normal summon. The link 3 in grave also creates good plays in the grind game. Lacrima can shuffle itself to reborn link 3 then link 3 reborn Fiendsmith then SS tuner from back row make a chaos angel on their turn.
@JarridYGO
@JarridYGO 4 ай бұрын
Nice Vid! I will try to moving forward as well!
@Lundrity
@Lundrity 4 ай бұрын
Cool combo. It might be worth it to reduce Trudea to 2 since the list has more normal summons than normal in Lacrima (& kinda Lurrie). And since we're adding more starters the deck is still fine consistency wise.
@kengy603
@kengy603 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Lund! My buddy from the Cent group also brought this up. This video was recorded ~5ish days ago. We are actually on that ratio now. Will most likely do an updated deck profile post Niagara
@redoctober67
@redoctober67 4 ай бұрын
Wake Up allows you to play past Nib by sending Phalanx to the GY, allowing you to recover Auxila (or Legatia) if necessary. However, Bonds is also such a good card that it's really worth going to 41 to put in Bonds.
@kengy603
@kengy603 4 ай бұрын
My concern is the amount of utility/engine requirements. Between the cent engine, resonator package, fiendsmith requirements there is already 8. A theory we have is to go over 40 to reduce seeing them. Adding in another one could be too much. It’ll have to be tested
@noslee2667
@noslee2667 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear and informative. Looking forward to you topping with the deck.