I was looking to find out how to control dots and found this amazing video. Thank you.
@SteveBoehm-st4fy2 ай бұрын
Regarding artifacting leaders in a TOC, you can also go into the link tag and in "Alternate Description for Links," add the chapter title and page number (e.g., Chapter 1, 1).
@daxcastro2 ай бұрын
Yes but you would have to do it for each one individually. The dot leader approach that Chad suggests is a single fix for the entire TOC.
@a11yАй бұрын
@@daxcastro Also, alternate description for links is the content key. Which, currently no screen reader is voicing.
@AdrienneGrace-a11y4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this; I saw this demonstrated in one of Allyant's training webinars, but it was so much information in such a short amount of time, it really didn't stick.
@olympicaccess65764 ай бұрын
Commented on the Facebook page a couple of minutes ago but commenting here too. Tried the Pdfix on both mac and Windows and it comes up with an error related to VeraPDF and java. Was merely trying the lite version so see what it could do, especially as the mac environment has so few options besides Acrobat Pro. Wrote the company about the error, and heard back a few hours later of the need to install java for the program to work.
@a11y4 ай бұрын
Yeah, sorry. Not sure I have an answer for you. We do not deal with Vera PDF at all.
@Joekapia5 ай бұрын
Why is accessibility SO unaccessible.
@thomasj1985 ай бұрын
speed test por favor!!!
@svetlatomanova93825 ай бұрын
Another question in reference to this topic. I have noticed that Adobe Acrobat creates a table when clearly there is no table in the document. Any idea why?
@svetlatomanova93825 ай бұрын
This video was excellent, as are all of your accessibility tutorials. I have a question regarding the table tags. Sometimes, text is mistakenly marked as a table but there isn't one in the document. I will try to retag the document, which sometimes resolves the problem. However, I am unsure if it's appropriate to change the <TH>, <TD> and <TR> tags to <P>? That is accepted by the accessibility checker, but I don't know if this is the correct way to remediate the issue.
@PDFA5 ай бұрын
yes. If they mistakenly tagged table should be a paragraph or headings or a list etc., it is valid to rename those tags appropriately. Great question!
@PeterEastman-vr3oi5 ай бұрын
The PDF part is pretty good. Your captioning and transcripts are only capturing Chax
@olympicaccess65765 ай бұрын
speed test, speed test, speed test!
@RebeccaAllen895 ай бұрын
Can you do the document race live and give us the document so we can do it live with you? And then go through it at the end so we can all check our own correctness?
@RebeccaAllen895 ай бұрын
Or not live would work too, but live would be really fun
@angelpeterson51066 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this!!
@altarumtechnology74776 ай бұрын
export all tags OMG thank you
@maivezonk6 ай бұрын
absolutely useless
@a11y6 ай бұрын
What were you expecting?
@ux-mpaiva6 ай бұрын
Great discussion Chad and Dax. I particularly appreciated the UX of ATs and how there are different navigation patterns depending on user’s preference and on vendor shortcuts.
@GreatImpressionofaHotDog6 ай бұрын
I gained my ADS certification this month! I give you two a lot of credit for helping me prepare, so thanks for all you do!
@a11y6 ай бұрын
Congratulations! That is so wonderful to hear that you received your ADS. We are looking at creating an ADS study course sometime between now and the end of the year to formally help others.
@studiosh41326 ай бұрын
Great explanation. Thank you.
@a11y6 ай бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it. You would be amazed at how long animation takes for something like this. I wanted to do an entire series but it is just time prohibitive.
@LorrieWillberghCrockett6 ай бұрын
This platform was really interesting but I was told we needed to purchase 10 seats to get the accessibility features.
@a11y6 ай бұрын
I am not sure that is correct. My understanding is that the accessibility features are part of all subscriptions.
@alfieward68367 ай бұрын
Hi Chad and Dax. I’m an accessibility newbie. I’m afraid my brain has become completely scrambled watching this. For us newbies who are still trying to get to grips with the basics, it’s really confusing to be told that there are multiple ways of achieving the same objective. I appreciate that this video is probably intended for people who are already clued up on accessibility and tags and an intellectual debate of one method over another might be appreciated by them. However, I just need to know what the structure needs to be. It would also be really good if you could go slowly and provide explanations when doing the screen shots as I have to keep pausing the video and going back multiple times to watch the really important bit which gets rushed over. I still don’t understand how to properly tag my QR code 😢
@a11y7 ай бұрын
Great point Alfie. This is why we have classes for such things. No worries though. You simply need to apply alt-text to your QR Code image that says "QR Code for (Whatever)" or ensure there is descriptive text before the image. Then you create a link just like you would any other hyperlinked image or text. The podcast is really not meant to be a tutorial but more of a discussion. Hope that helps.
@KTdid.7 ай бұрын
The reference tag nested in TOCs is also PDF/UA standard (per page 16 of the PDF associations Tagged PDF Best Practice Guide: Syntax PDF: "Example C: "substructures in a <TOC> & <TOCI> context containing <Reference> & <Link>"). Blargh! I know that when testing I find the double link speak frustrating, so I'm sure that native screen readers do, too (although NVDA uses are accustomed to it). My struggle is that by removing the reference tags, then I feel untruthful marking the PDF as PDF/UA conformant.
@PDFA7 ай бұрын
But why? In the end why do we follow the standard? Isn't it to ensure a good user experience? Isn't the standard there to unify solutions so that all screen readers have the best chance of presenting accurate content to the user? So then, what happens when the standard doesn't actually do that? The standards people say it is the screen reader programs fault. But the only ones paying the price are the end users who get to hear "Link, Link." Remember, the goal in all this is a good user experience. Therefore I will always side with the user experience when there is a choice to make between following a standard and knowing the good user experience as long as it does not create more barriers in the process.
@KTdid.7 ай бұрын
@@PDFA Just my own internal aversion to labeling a PDF PDF/UA compliant when I know I didn't fully meet the standard. Today, I'm getting over that aversion-no reference tags will be found in my TOCs moving forward! The more important truth also is that hearing "link, link" is annoying and I change that.
@PDFA7 ай бұрын
Correct
@RebeccaAllen897 ай бұрын
So then, if Word exports the bullet inside the LBody, it's not a requirement to tag the bullet separately as an Lbl?
@daxcastro2 ай бұрын
Yes.
@AshleyMessier7 ай бұрын
Very helpful! I've seen some tutorials say that the page number at the end of the leader is also not necessary and should be marked as an artifact. Is that correct? Similarly, a TOC that I'm working with has a number at the beginning of each section of the TOC (i.e. 1. Introduction). Is that something that should be marked as an artifact as well?
@a11y7 ай бұрын
Artifacting the page number or section number would not be a best practice. It would violate 1.3.1 Info and Relationships.
@cmbabcock48558 ай бұрын
How do you delete the structure? I press "Delete" and nothing happens.
@PDFA8 ай бұрын
Do you have the selector set to Exact?
@a11y8 ай бұрын
When you select an item in the tags tree and hit delete nothing happens?
@cmbabcock48558 ай бұрын
@@a11y Yes, but it turns out I'm still on the free version. I still have to install the paid version, then I can retest.
@RebeccaAllen898 ай бұрын
Do both of the alt texts (image and link) voice if you have both of them? When I've done this in the past, Adobe gives me an alt text error because it's one object (with another inside) with two alt texts assigned. And then I think only the alt text in the parent tag voices, not both. What is your experience when using a screen reader when you've tagged something like this?
@RebeccaAllen898 ай бұрын
I just tested it, and at least NVDA will only voice the parent tag's alt text.
@a11y8 ай бұрын
Link text populates the Content Key entry and is not voiced by any current screen reader. Only the Alt-text for Images is voiced by NVDA and JAWS
@RebeccaAllen898 ай бұрын
@@a11y Yeah, I did both content key and alt text for images for the link. Still only the parent tag is voiced in both scenarios where either is the parent.
@a11y8 ай бұрын
@@RebeccaAllen89not sure I am following you. The Parent tag is a Figure tag. The property is the Content Key, Alt-text, or Actual text values.
@RebeccaAllen898 ай бұрын
@@a11y You were saying that a screen reader will voice BOTH the Figure tag alt text AND the Link tag content key and/or link alt text if you nest one in the other, right? When I populate the alt text/content key/link alt texts correctly (in ways that work on other documents for those tag types), only the parent tag is voiced if I nest them like that. Could you actually do a short video to demonstrate what it should sound like with a screen reader if you nest them correctly and get all their settings/texts right? I was hoping that would be at the end of this video but it wasn't.
@RebeccaAllen898 ай бұрын
There's also a faster way to find a link and put it where you want it. You select the Link tag where you want it to go, then go up to the tag menu (above the Tag tag) and click Find and use the menu to find your unmarked link. When you locate and then tag the link through the Find dialogue box, the OBJR will be right in that Link tag you originally selected.
@RebeccaAllen898 ай бұрын
As I'm doing it right now, I just realized that I actually right-click the Link tag where I want the OBJR to go, select Find from the menu that comes up, then find and tag the element, and the OBJR lands right inside that Link tag.
@RebeccaAllen898 ай бұрын
To delete a link, you don't even have to go into Edit PDF - you can just right-click it on the page without any tools open and click Delete Link.
@a11y8 ай бұрын
Not if you can't find it. Many times it appears in the Annotations area of the Content pane but you can't get to the link box in the document
@RebeccaAllen898 ай бұрын
@@a11y Oh that’s true.
@terriwalker67059 ай бұрын
FYI: Close captioning dropped at 28:22. Transcript is good.
@a11y6 ай бұрын
Thanks we will take a closer look. Not sure why
@davidpopham29229 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the new development! And, yes, advanced CommonLook techniques, please.
@DesignDomination9 ай бұрын
Congratulations, guys!
@altarumtechnology74779 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your exciting new venture!
@vinothkumars47669 ай бұрын
could you please share this tool free software
@adriennegrace887010 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the "Disable New Acrobat" mention. I couldn't find any reason for the layout switch, so I was happy to go back to a familiar landscape.
@SOFTMERARY11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information guys.
@Ron_2099 Жыл бұрын
Helpful information ❤
@ChristopheStrobbe Жыл бұрын
This video's title doesn't fit the content. The discussion in the video is about "multiple documents", not reflow.
@a11y Жыл бұрын
This is just a clip from the longer full episode. But your are right it is about Bookmarks not being part of EN 301549
@wooyij Жыл бұрын
How big is your koi pond gonna be, Dax???😮😮😮
@a11y Жыл бұрын
6000 gallons!
@wooyij Жыл бұрын
This is v informative. Our team is still trying to mirror reading order with tag order in the PDF.
@lukasengqvist Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this discussion. For voice memos should it be "one message one idea" and rather send more messages than long messages… of is this also breaking for those that need voice mail as first choice.
@areallygooddrummer Жыл бұрын
8:28 Excellent conversation! Recently when I hired an accessibility specialist at my company, the first thing I looked for was an accessible resume. It blew my mind how few accessible resumes came in!
@Markzware Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys! Interesting.
@DesignDomination Жыл бұрын
Loved this episode! I don't remember seeing that feature about the PDF/UA identifier either. I think it's new. Thanks for sharing! I agree about Funkify. Great tool, especially for demonstrating to others about certain disabilities.
@izyashlosberg9456 Жыл бұрын
If I select list items in pdf CommonLook is crashing with message "Method not found". Any thoughts?
@a11y8 ай бұрын
I would definitely defer to their tech support on that one.
@terriwalker6705 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! I'm getting excited about learning CommonLook!
@amicableadvisor4553 Жыл бұрын
What’s the seventh question?
@terriwalker6705 Жыл бұрын
#7 is “Can I test the user experience?” (The list is in the fly out info in the title.)
@RebeccaAllen89 Жыл бұрын
Hey Dax and Chad, the end cut off mid-sentence - was that intentional?
@RebeccaAllen89 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree about the billboards! Also some commercials on TV or KZbin or wherever. If I can't read it in x amount of time, you've failed haha
@RebeccaAllen89 Жыл бұрын
FYI, with the new update, you can't actually put AltText on a P tag - it only lets you do ActualText.
@a11y Жыл бұрын
Not everyone has the new update. Many still use older versions.