Literally said the same Thing about perception. There’s no way you’ve played any other fighting game and think it’s a good mechanic. Smash is a “party” game and the parry and tech mechanics in that shit on everything here.
@justcallmesage227913 сағат бұрын
Exactly. The people who try to argue against it don’t think and/or rather have broken mechanics in the game to hide behind. No way they played and were good at any other fighting game that wasn’t anime
@powerup774423 сағат бұрын
As mentioned in the video, the community feels they bought the game so they can play however .
@justcallmesage227913 сағат бұрын
They do that not realizing they’re directly contributing to the toxic state of ranked play/the community and they don’t see how that’s the case. Or maybe they don’t want to because then they’d have to take responsibility for their actions. And we know they don’t like doing that
@apexpredator9163Күн бұрын
please make constany videos about this @bigZ90210 8 hours ago (edited) They nerfed Movement by mistake while doing the infinites and cheese bro and I can't belieeve people havent noticed. I'm so sad my rushchains feels hella clunky I used to side dash after upkick midair (before rushchain) with characters that chase after upkick instead of teleport( base Trunks, base FutureGohan,Base Caulifla, 1st form frieza....) Now you can't. You're locked into chain. They nerfed movement bro, not just the cheese. Actual movement that differentiated base form no teleport (after upkick)characters from others... And no one notices Now every character plays the same basically if you get me can't believe there's these many people not cracked at mixing combos not bothered by this no one will understand Ty😭 so bandai is forced to revert
@Prestiginii2 күн бұрын
I forgot to comment second time watching 💯
@justcallmesage2279Күн бұрын
@@Prestiginii w watch time🤟🏾
@johnobrien19412 күн бұрын
But red monkey ptsd
@johnobrien19412 күн бұрын
We littt
@justcallmesage22792 күн бұрын
@@johnobrien1941 YESSIR!!
@thelastotsutsuki-16572 күн бұрын
Super counters feel the same then again it never really worked for me.
@justcallmesage22792 күн бұрын
@@thelastotsutsuki-1657 that’s a fair self assessment lol. Super counter feel the same to me as well but like I said, I used it in certain situations. I know some say they don’t like the feel of it.
@Genki.Z72 күн бұрын
The patch is PEAK.
@justcallmesage22792 күн бұрын
@@Genki.Z7 I’m really enjoying the patch right now for sure. It’s fun, feels a bit more balanced. We’ll see how we all feel once the honeymoon phase is over lol
@Prestiginii3 күн бұрын
💯
@justcallmesage22792 күн бұрын
😬
@VagueMask4 күн бұрын
0:08 "THIS IS FOR GOHAN RAAAAAAAAAH"
@justcallmesage22794 күн бұрын
@@VagueMask FOR GOHAN!!!
@lt76365 күн бұрын
17:33 and then on is pure facts, you can’t win em all; you can win a lot but there’s always somebody better than you and that’s okay just git gud 😂💯
@justcallmesage22795 күн бұрын
@@lt7636 people act like it’s the end of the world if you lose bro. Especially when they’re better than you. It’s ok. Go get in the lab and get good legit lol. If you lose to some fuckery like exploits, you can be upset then. It makes sense 😭
@lt76365 күн бұрын
@ If exploits are involved for sure, but if I whoop someone with Turles then shake my hand bro but yea losing is what makes the journey worth it, if you won all the time it wouldn’t hit the same.
@justcallmesage22795 күн бұрын
@@lt7636 you spittin bro. If you always won, it would get boring. That means there’s no challenge and no room left to grow. People would put the game down so fast then if all they did was win. But then again, people use gaming and that “undefeated or pro” word for clout as well. It’s sad out here man.
@TheGodlyGamerMugen6 күн бұрын
Singles is just faster, more on the line, not as much cowardly support, gotta throw hands a lot more, no running out the timer
@justcallmesage22795 күн бұрын
You spittin my boy. It’s why DP feels like a drag to play.
@jbriggs066 күн бұрын
I just think you don't understand the point of anime fighting games... nobody playing to have SF or Tekken levels of balance. People literally only want to do cool stuff with the characters they love... before Fighters Z Dragonball games were always broken and unbalanced. I don't even think the game should have a ranked mode. You need to chill on how serious you take this or just go play the actual skill based fighters.
@justcallmesage22795 күн бұрын
I beg to differ. Anime games can be fun and cool to play. They don’t have to be broken/abused due to unintentional design flaws. Accepting anime games as broken is accepting mediocrity and you’re just fine with poorly made/optimized games. You being okay with this is part of the problem in the anime fighting game space and why they don’t last. I’ve played anime games for as long as I can remember and they didn’t become broken until they became 3D arena fighters/made their way to the online space. The Budokai games/Burst Limit weren’t broken. Nor were Naruto games until Clash of Ninja 2 and the Storm series. I’m not asking for the game to be balanced to the degree of a traditional fighter unless you’re in ranked mode and even then the balancing can be done and still keep the game fun to play. Also, broken mechanics shouldn’t be in a fighting game really in general (which I blame the devs for) but the community abusing them for wins isn’t something that’s called an “exploit” for a reason. It’s the reason why people put them down so quickly and they die off before they should.
@jbriggs065 күн бұрын
@@justcallmesage2279see we just won't ever agree because no offense not doing EVERYTHING you can to win is by definition scrub behavior... why would I limit myself to less than optimal play? That's basic fighting game mentality... when I play I win by any means its why even at top level play exploits are used in tournaments but that's besides the point... if you're seeking balance in an dragon ball anime fighter you are the minority. Its the reason why they can put in 30 Goku's because it is uniquely what people want. If Krillin has a fair chance against Beerus people wouldn't buy the game... you're being selfish as a minority. Go play tekken my guy. Sparking Zero literally isn't made for you.
@justcallmesage22795 күн бұрын
@@jbriggs06 you're correct. we won't agree. winning by any means when it comes to exploiting mechanics not intended within the game or only being able to win by relying on overpowered/broken mechanic doesn't make you a good/skilled player in my eyes. even those at the top of a competitive scene at least have mastered mechanics and controls of the game to a degree that most of us and wouldn't and couldn't reach. anything extra they do is a benefit, not a crutch the way most in the anime fighting game community use them. myself and others aren't saying for player matches low tier characters should be able to compete with high tiers. it's casual play and casual fun should be experienced. however, in a competitive/ranked setting, there should be balance in mind to keep the mode fun and competitive. that's why your statement of top level players using these exploits falls on deaf ears with me since even after a patch when and if an overpower character is used in tournament, they're still able to perform at the highest level. most of (and not to be offensive) the players that think like you end up putting the game down after a nerf occurs (take the nerf to androids and giants as example). so no, skill is a requirement in fighting games regardless of the sub genre. in a casual setting, do as you will. but in competitive play, doing and thinking the way you do, exploiting glitches/unintended mechanics in games to win, overpower/unbalanced characters and mechanics directly leads to games such as sparking zero dying before their due date. It's easy for me to pick up an overpowered character and win. i'm supposed to win using that character. after a while there's no challenge, fun, glory, or self fulfillment to be had in doing so. which is why after i got gogeta blue to z, i made other accounts to really test myself and see what else I could learn. i see players like you as needing the easy way to wins in order to be "better" than the next person. And i do play tekken actually lol. that and plenty of other fighting games both traditional and anime fighters, which is why i speak the way i do. i understand the point of anime fighters. but the unbalance in anime fighters is fine, in a casual setting. not ranked/comp. and that goes for any game imo. it's why cod is having an issue with casual play feeling like ranked when thats what ranked is for just as an example.
@jbriggs065 күн бұрын
@@justcallmesage2279 Classic scrub mentally... your fictional rules bind you to L's fam... if you can't stop the broken stuff I have no reason to do anything else. Magneto's infinites were 100% exploits and crying about it makes you a scrub... Go read some Seth Killian! Otherwise I'll agree to disagree.
@justcallmesage22795 күн бұрын
@ again, we agree to disagree like you said. I don’t lose very much in many fighting games as is. You’re welcome to add me and play me any time also. I’ve gotten multiple accounts to Z already on this game using multiple characters. My mentality is what got me good at fighting games. Your delusions will keep you believing you’re nice at these games when you aren’t. Again, like I said in the video, I and others know how to get around your exploits and tactics. We’ve shown it in our content and even have content showing/teaching how to do so in our videos. So your words towards me don’t equate. So I’m handling this with grace in telling you this…you’re not good. Your mentality kills games and you seem to be unable to differentiate between casual and competitive play and what a balanced experience looks like. Have fun with the game in your capacity brother and continue to live in your delusion of being good at something when you’re being carried😂 I appreciate the convo that devolved into…whatever you wish to call this🙏🏾
@ItzB3A5T6 күн бұрын
Now when the matches are too laggy I just leave bro waste of time ☠️
@justcallmesage22795 күн бұрын
Bro laggy matches in DP is just hell 😭
@NikkrisMusic6 күн бұрын
God Goku is the one. I feel like nobody uses him.
@justcallmesage22795 күн бұрын
I haven’t touched him since the game released honestly. Ima be checking him out frfr now
@NikkrisMusic5 күн бұрын
@ yes his move set is really simple but also useful. If somebody putting on extra melee pressure they can catch a god bind. 😂
@UnphasedTray6 күн бұрын
These DP cats never like to rematch either lol
@justcallmesage22795 күн бұрын
Very rarely do they like to. Only if they think it’s easy wins
@UnphasedTray5 күн бұрын
@ fax man these dudes play scary get their win cause of health n leave quit asl 🤣
@UnphasedTray6 күн бұрын
Look like someone was watching the perception tutorial 🥳🫡
@justcallmesage22796 күн бұрын
@@UnphasedTray gotta keep the fundamentals pure🤔
@UnphasedTray6 күн бұрын
@@justcallmesage2279 🫡🥳 indeed. U streaming tonight
@bgx32326 күн бұрын
The only skill these people put time into is Super Countering. It's sad out here, man.
@justcallmesage22796 күн бұрын
So many other mechanics to master and learn. But they rather spam ki blasts and try to super counter everything. Like you said, it’s sad
@Jake-ol7hw6 күн бұрын
You inspired me to buy this game, but shit. Every time I watch you play it I'm reminded how bad I am at video games. You're smoking people 4th dimensionally while talking shit. I'm mashing buttons getting fucked up in story mode still
@Iamneves6 күн бұрын
He's soooo buns 4:46
@justcallmesage22796 күн бұрын
It was the scared to fight shit for me bro. You saw what happened when I made him have to fight.
@Prestiginii6 күн бұрын
Facts
@Genki.Z76 күн бұрын
Pres when we gon see you in a singled video?
@justcallmesage22796 күн бұрын
@@Prestiginii DP is just too much with how people play man
@grendy96616 күн бұрын
I’m more so on the “elusive” super counter. Like some people I fight I just can’t super counter AT ALL regardless of what combo they are doing it’s so weird sometimes and then they super counter off of my first punch every time. And I’m surprised people don’t learn the game more because the better you are the more your battles actually turn into “dragon ball fights” like the game is supposed to represent 😂
@Anabolic_Ape6 күн бұрын
5:55 its normie behavior bro, mediocre regular people always complain about EVERYTHING. It doesnt matter if they like it one day, the next day they complain. NORMIES
@trellified6 күн бұрын
You're on the money calling this mostly a community problem. That's how the majority of people work; desperate to get that win even if they didn't earn it. Can't stand that nonsense. I want to earn my wins, I don't want the W unless I played better.
@justcallmesage22796 күн бұрын
@@trellified and that should be the mindset from a competitive player/person. Any W not earned for real shouldn’t be valued by yourself first. The “win by any means” mentality is what hurts communities in the long run. It turns away the players gaming for fun and the competitive players actually trying to test themselves and grow.
@JoshuaKujo7 күн бұрын
justified crashout
@derekb23147 күн бұрын
i mean you can call trying to use vanishing strike while getting combo'd an exploit, but it's literally what u do when u play the game bc the CPU stops attacking on purpose. the cpu does it to you too. falls more under the boundaries of a bug. now, trunks canceling vanish wars with unique bug mechanic... that was an exploit. calling ppl using vanishing strike exploiters is like being mad somebody is super countering even though it seems like they are going to lose lol like idk what peoples obsession is with making sure the other player can play the game as little as possible and be stunned and out of control for as long as possible, as being fun game design lmao. if you have a big enough break in your combo somebody can vanish, you SHOULD BE punished for it
@justcallmesage22797 күн бұрын
@@derekb2314 riddle me this brother. A bug in a game that is being used to gain an advantage/get out of a disadvantage in a fighting is called what? Super countering and vanishing assault don’t equate since super countering requires timing to pull off. It’s a skill when people super counter you so I disagree with your point. The “trunks tech” was an exploit. As is vanishing assault making you drop your combos. That’s not a defensive mechanic within the game. Not to mention, the break doesn’t even have to be too big to make someone’s combo drop by spamming vanishing assault. It’s not a matter of making people not be able to play the game. It’s about balance. If I beat you in neutral and take your back, I won that exchange. My reward is a combo unless you successfully super counter. Vanishing assault making you drop a combo is a bug that people exploit. So it’s not tech, it’s an exploit. You answered this yourself with you trunks analogy.
@Mazijeffro7 күн бұрын
black dbz content creator immediate like
@justcallmesage22797 күн бұрын
@@Mazijeffro I appreciate you brodie🤟🏾😤
@awesomereviews15618 күн бұрын
It’s the same for every game, once you play it seriously or at a high level , people are gonna use and abuse strong characters/meta. It’s more egregious in this game because it’s poorly balanced. If you play the game for fun, just find a group of people who wants to play that way( friends or discord) and only play with them.
@justcallmesage22797 күн бұрын
@@awesomereviews1561 you’re definitely correct. It’s literally in every game with people meta hunting, looking for the best odds of winning. But I feel the anime fighting game community is just terrible about it. At the highest level, you still see people run low tiers in Tekken and SF for example. In this game and other anime fighters, that almost never happens
@powerup774423 сағат бұрын
As of now this game is not for fun . Sparking Zero has become more of a competitive sport to gamble on . Sparking Zero also becomes more beneficial to full-time streamers , content creators or people who spend 100+ hours playing the game .
@kennethdavy40518 күн бұрын
Man I just turn my head off to it tbh Idk if it’s my region or internet or who I’m playing, But the lagging is annoying (I’m on Ethernet😫) and the combo dropping gets to me so much!😂
@justcallmesage22797 күн бұрын
It could be the servers as well bz they aren’t the best brothers lol. And don’t get me started on dropping combos and it’s not due to user error.😭
@johnobrien19418 күн бұрын
But base vegito nice too
@johnobrien19418 күн бұрын
Base gogeta my dude bro you already know
@justcallmesage22798 күн бұрын
I’m already knowing, but I don’t think he’s as slept on as Base Vegito. People like that Wild Sense/Instant Spark Combo lol
@Technogeek64878 күн бұрын
I can sum it up. People today associate wining with having fun too much so. I have a friend of mine online who is yonger than myself and he quit the game because he couldn't cheese me anymore like he could the early days of the game's release. He would play Fusions, Z Broly and Super Broly. I usually play Krillin, Piccolo or Early and End Goku. So none of my characters have any special advantage. Most you could say is Krillin with Afterimage but I use Solar Flare more. Having to master mechanics because I can't cheese to win I eventually shut him down by gradually getting better. Now the game in his own words needs to be fix the mechanics are too strong and not balanced.
@justcallmesage22798 күн бұрын
I 100% agree with you on that. Winning is synonymous with fun for most now and it probably always has been. I just surrounded myself with people who knew when to be serious and competitive and when to just relax and have fun. It’s messed up you lost a friend to play with because they would rather learn the easiest/most exploitable things to play and win instead of learning the actual mechanics to play and win but it is what it is. This is a reason gaming in its purest form is dying and small communities like anime fighters/Sparking Zero are having shorter and short life expectancies.
@derekb23147 күн бұрын
eh to be fair i think a lot of the low DP characters actually got the most unique and creative skillsets out of all the characters in the game. like the first 3 times i got hit with krillins special, i didn't even know what happened lmao. I'd also say Piccolo is one of the best 4dp pick out there next to Gohan, Trunks and Bardock. His 5 DP form ult also cancels a lot of ult, i think. or maybe it was his B2. Gokus in general are strong across the board, most of them have instant transmission or spark, Z End has Instant Transmission and Wild Sense A lot of ppl think Piccolo is not cheesy but Adult Gohan, Piccolo and SSG Vegeta (so he can SSBE faster) is my 2ki cost super spam cheese comp. Bro is goated, he's a Gohan that can't go super saiyan
@Technogeek64877 күн бұрын
@derekb2314 Solar Flare is stupid useful I started migrating towards ot more so than Afterimage. And depending on what Goku you use when it comes to End. I personally find Sj2 goated among all the Goku's. Either Piccolo will do I just like the guy 3rd favorite character. Krillin being the first.
@justcallmesage22797 күн бұрын
@ seeing lower DP characters more in ranked would be a welcome change due to their uniqueness. However, those lower DP characters don’t have skills that can’t be countered. You also don’t have to work 100x harder to counter what they do. Using MUI who has an auto dodge/wild sense/instant spark/can perception you or activate wild sense while auto dodging and can combo you to death with his damage is just over the top. No lower DP character has a kit even close lol. So it would be welcomed to see those lower DP characters more often. The downside is that we only see the most cheesy of the low DP characters in DP Battle. Even there, it’s no variety and people only follow the meta mostly.
@justcallmesage22797 күн бұрын
@ solar flare is a great utility skill. And it’s nice because you can still fight back while being solar flared lol.
@ToxicCabba8 күн бұрын
I guess gotenks super saiyan is the only character whose high tension is like a full power charge skill. That’s weird. I would say base Jiren/cooler/bojack and full form frieza should be in the next part they good as well. Great video bro !
@justcallmesage22798 күн бұрын
@@ToxicCabba yeah, I think that’s unique to SSJ Gotenks. But I appreciate you bro! Your recommendations are good ass ones too. I’ve checked out a few of em before already so I’m sure they can be in the next one fasho
@NinjaWithAPistol8 күн бұрын
In my opinion, it really is the players’ fault why none of those things get balanced. If you think about it, the players wanted essentially a remake of a ps2 game, which of course could never ever be changed or updated. So when change does happen that’s why they cry about it. The players WANT a 200 character roster with modern graphics, but they only really want to use 5 characters because they break the game. Thats always been the way of the BT games and thats why i never really fw them. If they just scaled all the characters the same and gave them more cinematic finishers and what not, that would be ideal, in my opinion. Thats what i thought was always cool about these kind of games. But idk man 🤷♂️ im just a gamer!
@justcallmesage22798 күн бұрын
@@NinjaWithAPistol the majority of the blame def falls on the player base, I def agree. It’s crazy how people wanted an upgrade from BT3, but there are certain mechanics, like Sonic sway, perception, etc, that were more balanced than what they are currently. As for characters, I thought everyone used a wide variety of characters but that’s only because I grew up mainly playing my younger brother and that’s what we did. My perspective was small then, whereas now, I’ve been shown it’s quite the opposite with other people. Fuck the roster count, might as well only be 5-7 characters on it the way these guys only pick the strongest ones. Being a real gamer is rare nowadays bro. Don’t lose that lol.
@irbynlegend7059 күн бұрын
8:51 yes this happens to me frequently. Now maybe it’s me and I’m not executing properly but a lot of perception is just unstoppable. I play classic so it could be my controls but either way way perception is cursed
@justcallmesage22799 күн бұрын
@@irbynlegend705 believe me brother, it’s not just you. It could be execution AT TIMES but not all the time. Perception is a janky mechanic as is now, hence why it’s abused as often as it is and players only hide behind it. It makes defense way more convenient and punishes offense making the “passive/defensive play style” the way to go for wins, which isn’t fun for a game like this.
@GATTAI-ZAMASU9 күн бұрын
All Players use shit chars too f. up and troll not for fun only to troll and for The Z rank And how they win with 10 dp chars and wild sense or other shit mechanics The controls do The rest and non Balance fighter Budokai Tenkaichi 3 I miss you
@justcallmesage22799 күн бұрын
@@GATTAI-ZAMASU that’s exactly how most of us in the community feel bro. You are not wrong in your thought process. There’s some of us out there that don’t but it’s few and far between.
@IAmThatGuy09 күн бұрын
I knew something was up with these people running busted characters and picking World Tournament out of all the stages.
@justcallmesage22799 күн бұрын
@@IAmThatGuy0 there’s a method to their madness bro. It’s just obnoxious that this is what people resort to for wins lmao
@michaelwalker88709 күн бұрын
Those intellectual powerscalers who can't wait to the next movie or episode comes out with their favorite meta(not character) in it so they can bring a new argument to the table within the hour not 2 weeks after the hype is gone but right after since they have to be the first to make sure everyone knows how strong to the quintilionith power. I don't think a sailar moon or inuyasha game or even deadman would run into the same issue as a dragon ball game especially pvp would. I would beat my entire pay check. i blame power scalers and toxic advocaters of the community, same thing with naruto but with naruto it's a little more nuanced with the unique way those game are set up. even fighter z had this issues and couldn't escape it. you guys will have to except you will need to create your own pockets of wholesome communities to enjoy the game like it was meant to be enjoyed. The devs put alot of effort into the game since this was their vision for budokai tenkaichi 4 but they never had the chance now they got the chance. me personally i would be embarrased to know my game turned into a sessepool of seibamen drones and nerds. people can't enjoy their favorite characters
@justcallmesage22799 күн бұрын
@@michaelwalker8870 I can see where you’re coming from with blaming power scalers. I agree with the rest of your comment as well. I don’t think I would contribute it solely on power scalers though. Main reason is because it happens in all anime fighting games, where people will find the most broken character (not even the strongest in their verse) to use to net easy wins. It’s been that way since the Ninja Storm games got online on PS3. The anime fighting game community doesn’t want to have fun and play the game how they’re intended. They only wish to net wins since they probably don’t win much in anything else. Dragonball games just fall into meta=strongest character in verse since that’s how the game is setup. Unfortunately when Bleach or the HxH comes out, it’ll be the meta slaves and exploiters at the helm ready to fuck the game up.
@destine4g9429 күн бұрын
It's equivalent to the gym. Where you have one person who uses steroids or any muscle-enhancing drug to expedite results, as opposed to someone who wants to take the time and build their body and strength more naturally.
@justcallmesage22799 күн бұрын
@@destine4g942 that’s an excellent analogy honestly. Shortcuts only get you so far
@leroyalty19 күн бұрын
Around 6:00 mark I agree but also don’t, there’s so many weaker characters from the series I with they’d brought so I could play them 😢 I would love to play grandpa gohan
@justcallmesage22799 күн бұрын
@@leroyalty1 grandpa Gohan would be so dope!! There’s def plenty of characters from earlier in the series that I would love to have as well. Give me General Tao both before and after his cyborg attachments. Mans was an animal! I want Nam too bz why the fuck not😭
@leroyalty19 күн бұрын
@ swear to god that would be the best, those low tiers were just straight fun
@CATCHanSHOOT9 күн бұрын
Sorry to say gang but, I deleted this shii. It's off my dash, won't be touching that shii no matter what they patch. The community is fuxking terrible, they're so desperate for a win its ridiculous. R.I.P. to Sparking though, the game was fun at first and had great potential, but you lame ass folks who will do ANYTHING to win ruin everything. Online gaming in the last few years has become so trash bruh. You seem like a cool guy, I hope you find more to make content on, I subbed. This Sparking shii is dead and in the grave, lame ass people ruin everything because their desperate asses cant handle looking at a damn lose screen.