God forbid I read a book where characters have nuance smh/sarcasm I like the idea that the main cataclysm of the book is grief, hell, I'm a big fan of characters who are assholes because of grief, but grief applies to everyone. Mapleshade killing people is wrong, but so is attacking a woman, kicking three toddlers out to the streets and blaming your wife for the death of her children I actually think that the fact that everyone in the book is wrong to a degree awesome! Warriors clearly struggles with making their main characters flawed people, and this book is such a great example of cats with clear flaws :) One point I might disagree is that Appledusk didn't know their names, feel free to correct me on this, but reading the book I assumed he would have learned their names in the gathering, considering it's common to state the name of kits born into a clan (notable example I can remember is Blackstar announcing Tigerkit's birth in PO3 and everyone at the gathering being unseasy) and Mapleshade specifically told Frecklewish and Oakstar to tell Appledusk about the kits being born (that they assumed was as a means to intimidate him), the line about their names TO ME was more just Mapleshade thinking he never learned their names than actual evidence he didn't, I might be wrong on this one though lol, it's been a while since I read this book Still shitty that he cheated on his wives though smh smh
@RowanthekittydogOwO5 сағат бұрын
Well that could be true also, but knowing the Erin’s they probably didn’t think of that lol
@RowanthekittydogOwO5 сағат бұрын
But I also agree so hard!! I didn’t make this video to say mapleshade is innocent like some ppl thought, it’s mostly to say she want born evil and (almost) everyone else also fucked up along side her
@maxofficalaccountnotreally8 сағат бұрын
I would LOVEEE to see you talk about sam and max being queer coded, i feel like you’d have a field day
@RowanthekittydogOwO8 сағат бұрын
I’ve been meaning to get into Sam and max and from what I’ve seen, they’re so fucking gay bro
@ImTired1711 сағат бұрын
FINALLY. SOMEONE SAYS IT-
@grimmcorvid571313 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much oh my god. Appledusk got off easy. But ill give him this. He died protecting his new mate.
@niaanderson67722 сағат бұрын
I've watched the video in full and this shaped my view on Maple's character more. Which makes my whole Larchkit au more darker, thank you! also your art is chef's kiss
@RowanthekittydogOwOКүн бұрын
“Starclan TOLD Leafpool to break their rules so it’s okay when she does it!” (They didn’t seem to think it was okay in squirrelflights hope lol) That’s not the point I was making, she still hurt ppl by lying and is allowed to break whatever rules in the fandom and DOSENT get backlash for doing the same thing other cats (not only Leafpool) get to do. You guys say the rule is dumb then act like mapleshade deserved to get cruel and unusually punished by having her KIDS exiled with her. Like come on
@nichollleКүн бұрын
tbh i think there is some middle ground here. she def made some bad decisions, but she was failed by the system, so to speak. it shouldnt have been illegal to have half-clan relationships. oakstar should not have exiled her and her kits- he could have at least offered the kits a home. i think maple's biggest mistake was trying to cross a river with her kits that she KNEW could flood. she could very well have gone to twolegplace to wait it out. THAT was her fault. starclan should have been merciful in the end when they were aware she was having a psychotic episode
@RowanthekittydogOwOКүн бұрын
I disagree with the river thing cause with the twoleg place the trip would’ve been dangerous as well, it was a storm, their was dogs and other predators, kittypets weren’t friend and it’s a long walk. I don’t think the river was a good choice but it would’ve been the fastest and it’s not like she had much else yk. And I agree, ppl immediately commented thinking I said maple did nothing wrong and just repeated the same points I already went over so Im glad im also getting normal comments like yours😭😭
@WormHomeКүн бұрын
Your audio is very difficult to understand. This is a nice video, but I have to focus really hard to understand what you’re saying.
@RowanthekittydogOwOКүн бұрын
Yeah sorry about that!! I’m planning on adding captions when I get home
@shadowyctКүн бұрын
Curious, what do you mean by 'frecklewish and oakstar using her kits as war weapons' (paraphrased i think) What they said is something that i think every combative clan cat has said. I don't think that's anything against them. ..Did i mishear??
@shadowyctКүн бұрын
Also- I personally think pretty much everyone in mapleshades vengeance is in the wrong. It's a cruel story, based on impulsive decisions and their consequences. Ravenwing rushed to tell Oakstar without talking to Mapleshade, Oakstar acted too quick, out of emotions rather than logic, exiling Mapleshade and the kits. Frecklewish... obviously, got hurt and acted impulsively, attacking Mapleshade and insulting her kits. Appledusk... it's obvious. Mapleshade is shown to be impulsive and act emotionally a TON throughout the book, iirc
@shadowyctКүн бұрын
...though for some reason only the twoo female cats are in the dark forest... cursing... PUT EM ALL(except Ravenwing) IN THE DARK FOREST OR NONNEE!!!! (can you tell I'm still angry about frecklewish being in the dark forest)
@RowanthekittydogOwOКүн бұрын
It’s more so them saying that they’ll take his place and Avenge him when they’re ready which presumably means killing Appledusk. Most combative clan cats don’t say how they wanna flex their new baby’s who they’re gonna train to replace their “dad”.😭 but I can get where you’re coming from, it at least shows their minds was on birchface, not the kits themselves yk
@RowanthekittydogOwOКүн бұрын
And I agree
@shadowyctКүн бұрын
@@RowanthekittydogOwO I see! That makes sense! I was just a lil confused lol
@Soggybread-fr0g2 күн бұрын
Can we talk about the coverage AND THE ART? its beautiful (great explanation to !!!!!) more details than most other KZbinrs give about mapleshade most ppl give only the bad things from others opinions.
@Jellyfishcat732 күн бұрын
YESS POOKIE YOU GO 😍 *cough cough moon kitti and bright gaurdian akira mapleshade video you know who you are cough cough cough cough*
@marguerite22862 күн бұрын
Hi i have a question !i love your take on mapleshade vengeance but as someone who doesn't speak english as her first language it's hard to understand,could you please activate the automatic subtitles🥲?
@RowanthekittydogOwO2 күн бұрын
Hi yes so sorry, I was meaning to actually write them myself but issues came up and they didn’t work right, I haven’t been able to fix them as I’m on a trip right now however as soon as I’m home I’ll get those right away!!
@marguerite228616 сағат бұрын
@@RowanthekittydogOwO Thanks you!
@jayfireanimations2 күн бұрын
i'm trying to watch the whole thing before i comment (currently on 6:27) but i agree so far !! especially now that i realise i was lied to about what babytrapping was! tysm for clearing that up cause for so long i thought that was what baby trapping was. doesn't make what she did right but im glad im no longer being lied to about what someones actions mean llslsl
@RowanthekittydogOwO2 күн бұрын
Yeah, babytrapping is a form of sexual assault 😭😭😭 mapleshade and Appledusk are feral cats so like…
@RowanthekittydogOwO2 күн бұрын
But she also didn’t use them as pawns in the relationship
@blueshibastudios97742 күн бұрын
I just finished this whole video and I just gotta say THANK YOUU ((it’s like you reached into my brain and pulled out my thoughts on the topic loll)) But the overjudment of female characters while males get away with worse crimes i feel stems from some form of misogyny even if the perpetrators themselves don’t have those veiws it happens a lot in fandoms and it’s really infuriating
@lonemew35032 күн бұрын
I like how blunt and unfiltered this is. And this is a good take on this. I'm so tired of the ''Mapleshade babytrapped him Appledusk is not bad!!!'' posts that the warriors fandom have been churning out lately
@lupisvulpix2 күн бұрын
this video is honestly great
@NECROJlMBO3 күн бұрын
Tommy Parky UTTP club
@RowanthekittydogOwO2 күн бұрын
Holy fuck it’s necrojimbo
@parasiticals4 күн бұрын
Wow so smooth!
@RowanthekittydogOwO2 күн бұрын
Thanks ^_^
@parasiticals2 күн бұрын
@@RowanthekittydogOwO You’re welcome!
@ltsRazzle14 күн бұрын
Preppy💅
@parasiticals14 күн бұрын
May I have part 7 if it’s still open? I honestly love this song and I sort of do like Appledusk though, I can understand why people don’t like him since he is a cheater. I will be using AMV!
@AngellMadatian27 күн бұрын
Oh my god Valentino😂
@LatteCookies_SpoonАй бұрын
it’s so stupid for people to get mad at you over things you did when you were ELEVEN. also i don’t see how the jayfeather part was ableist in the slightest??? 😭 also sorry about the appledusk comments on your appledusk AU MAP, i was pissed for prior stuff and i apologize i shouldn’t have gotten upset over that and i will admit i did act somewhat immature. appledusk is one of my favorite characters and yeah. i can see why people don’t like appledusk, which it totally fair now that i see it. though idk if the person who misgendered you did it on purpose (not defending them it’s just possible that they couldn’t known (unless you have prns in ur bio and stuff i didn’t get to check im sorry 💔))
@LatteCookies_SpoonАй бұрын
ok yeah you do have ur prns n stuff listed in ur carrd sorry if it sounded like i was defending them 😭
@RowanthekittydogOwO29 күн бұрын
Yeah, I genuinely wouldn’t be mad if if it was accident, but I have my pronouns listed and the gay + trans flag in my pfp😭😭😭 and it’s okay!!! I’m totally chill with you liking Appledusk and I’m glad you apologized for being a bit immature. That you for the support it means a lot!/gen
@Reed_woahАй бұрын
Could I get part 3? My oc would prevent Rock from saving Jayfeather when he’s trying to rescue Flametail, so both the little guys drown
@snowedinokalyАй бұрын
Holy moly!! Your new art style is so good!
@CalicoMarineАй бұрын
omg i am healed i grew up on 2009 warriors content, I can't wait to see this completed! I would love to take part 12 if you'd like! My big fav is tigerstar