Clarion Farm

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@IbrisOfAmber 2 жыл бұрын

Its disturbing that this bizarre goose stepping fetish continues in dressage circles 😔

@Ilady 3 жыл бұрын

I was there, it was amazing. Two super horses who are amazing. See them at the age of 2.5 and 4 and they where always this talented. I think Total US is even better then Totilas himself.

@retro2546 3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, Totilas shouldnt be a dressage legend. He was trained with rollkur which is abusive.

@Ilady 3 жыл бұрын

@@retro2546 i don't like rollkur either, but this horse was so special.

@rb7140 4 жыл бұрын

Versteh überhaupt nicht warum dad Puplikum so euphorisch ist Die Ganze Vorstellung einfach nur grausam

@ikarinascoke2086 4 жыл бұрын

Warum grausam?

@marymeehan6145 4 жыл бұрын

Lovely work and perfectly riding ❤🥰

@heikepolleichtner9926 4 жыл бұрын

In absolute Respect for Training and showing Dressage on a really high Level - they reminds me more and more - with overflexion - on a Tennessy Walking breed in the Trot Lessions Lektions. thank you so much for sharing this video.

@clivewilson116 4 жыл бұрын

I must admit that came to my mind instantly with the extravagant trot work.

@verina4118 5 жыл бұрын

Weiß jemand wie der Song im Trab hieß?

@katistiere3219 3 жыл бұрын

An der Stelle, an der in Totilas' Kür der starke Trab kam, wurde ein Remix von Equinox 4 verwendet :)

@nicolas_diaz_equestrian 5 жыл бұрын

does anyone know the song they use for the Galloping ?

@noekatromp3984 5 жыл бұрын

Nicolas A. Diaz what shall we die for from the POTC movies

@robertoberti16 5 жыл бұрын

Ich finde die beiden ziemlich spannig. Mag an der Atmosphäre liegen aber taktrein und zufrieden sehen die nicht aus .

@armbrusterstefan8803 5 жыл бұрын

Die Skala der Ausbildung mal wieder so richtig krass verfehlt.... Fehler im Takt deutlich erkennbar,fehlende Losgelassenheit,Schweif schlagen,Genick nicht am höchsten Punkt,starker Trab unter Spannung regelrecht heraus gequetscht usw usw Vorne wird getrommelt aber hinten kommen keine Soldaten.... Pferdegerechte Ausbildung geht definitv anders! Eine Katastrophe was da unter Applaus geboten wird!

@ikarinascoke2086 4 жыл бұрын

Ich nehme mir hier nicht heraus zu sagen was gut und was schlecht ist. Aber alle Fehler welche du hier aufzählst entstehen durch die Atmosphäre und das geklatsche der Zuschauer. Man sieht ab und zu das die Pferde durchgehen möchten, wenn die Zuschauer beginnen zu applaudieren. Ich bezweifle ganz stark das diese Pferde so Zuhause geritten werden.

@armbrusterstefan8803 4 жыл бұрын

@@ikarinascoke2086 ganz klar sind da "Umweltreize" immer daran beteiligt wie sich ein Pferd verhält und bewegt. Anderseits sind die Trainings Methoden in den Niederlanden wie auch vielen anderen Ländern bestens bekannt.

@Sissi-bs1wu 5 жыл бұрын

🤢🤮 schrecklich... wer sowas gut findet gehört in den A... getreten und ein Zucht bzw. Ausbildungsverbot erteilt.

@TheOldandslow 5 жыл бұрын

Haha, I cant read German but i think we agree this is not good.

@suehelms906 5 жыл бұрын

Since horses cannot speak for themselves let us... horses need to be horses not treated as dress up dolls. They need to run in fields and ridden naturally not taught to step high which is not natural. Both horses are stunning and would look fantastic walking naturally without raising those legs so high, no reason for it.

@lisahamilton5191 5 жыл бұрын

Is this a recent event? Or an old clip ?

@clarionfarm 5 жыл бұрын

Lisa Hamilton This was taken at the KWPN Stallion Show 2/1/19

@lisahamilton5191 5 жыл бұрын

Clarion Farm thank you 😊Amazing horses especially the little one with the blaze !

@jolan2412 5 жыл бұрын

Lisa Hamilton Sons of Totilas

@Romy... 5 жыл бұрын

Schrecklich... 😣

@nicolekloeckner3861 5 жыл бұрын

Die nächste arme Seele ist herangezogen.

@Romy... 5 жыл бұрын

Seh ich genau so... Und andere komnentieren hier mit "WOW". ... besser wäre: "WOW wie schrecklich..."

@xAliceWings 5 жыл бұрын

Sick. Poor horses. These are not natural movements. Please, please educate yourself about a horse's anatomy and how to ride a horse fair and pro-animal so it stays happy and healthy for a long time. We need to change the direction in which we are going. This has nothing to do which the art of riding that the old masters developed. This is how you destroy a horse both physically and mentally. Don’t be deceived by the low croup, that’s breeding, not good training. See the horse as a whole and compare to pictures of correct riding by the old masters. This is just sad to watch. Correct fair riding doesn’t look spectacular. A well trained horse living in a good environment might have a temper and be energetic, but it will be willing to work and always listening to his rider. He will try to do his best. As long as you’re treating them right and only ask them things they are capable of doing in the moment, their self-esteem will grow and they will move with a light, natural pride and charisma. A horse is moving fine when you don’t hear them touch the ground, not matter if they walk, trot or canter. Horses are not made to show them off. Horses are not made for dressage. Dressage is made for the horse. As long as the horse is (ab)used for dressage and dressage is used for money, there will be no fair riding. A horse is not a machine. It’s a living creature that needs time and care and individual, just training if you expect it to be your sports partner. A horse would never get the idea to put a human being on its back. If we want to ride a horse, we need to respect their nature. Then they’ll be happy to work for and with us until their very last day instead of being broken and torn apart like Totilas. Horses don’t have a voice. Let’s stand up for them.

@thetomnatorosrs 5 жыл бұрын

You are stupid and obviously know nothing about horses.

@funfactsabout1289 5 жыл бұрын

As soon as you get on a horse it's not natural anymore. Horses don't want/like to be ridden. If they had a choice they would prefer to stand on a grassfield all day.

@ikarinascoke2086 4 жыл бұрын

@@funfactsabout1289 i agree to disagree. Yes horses are not natural anymore. That comes with the breeding. Like every othe domestic animal. But that horses don't wanna be ridden is not true. My horses are coming to me when i come to take them for a ride. I do not offer any treats or something like that. They come to me even when they know that i am gonna take them for a ride. So how is it possible for them to hate riding when they come to me by they're own free will. And it is not possible for them to be the only horses to like riding. So no you are wrong on that part.

@Ilady 3 жыл бұрын

I know them as young horses, it's all natural. They are extremely talented.

@fraushrimp 5 жыл бұрын

We are on best way to produce the same poor marionettes as they did with the Tennessee Walking Horses in USA. This is not natural noblesse, it is fake noblesse. And the crowd is cheering and applauding. I cry!

@chantalprins3360 5 жыл бұрын

fraushrimp how can you even say that? These Totilas lines don’t get stuff around their hooves to make bigger movements. Yes, they have more, bigger movements on show; they are nervous because such a cheerfull crowd is scary. They have a energetic temper and you can see that they sometimes still think “woah”. These horses have a great life and their training is nothing alike the shows. They are still horses and eat their lovely green grass and golden hay on the meadows or in the paddock. Lol

@xAliceWings 5 жыл бұрын

@@chantalprins3360 Totilas has never been kept out in the field because he could possibly hurt himself. Their owners/trainer/whoever said so themselves. I highly doubt it's any different for these horses. These horses are not happy. These movement aren't natural, they have not always moved like this, and this is not how a 7 year old (or any horse!) should be ridden. Even ignoring the ridiculously uprising forehand, these horses have no real action in their hindlegs, and aren't asked to either. Their backs are hollow. Their croup only looks like they're opening their backs because they're bred like German Shepherds. They have no balance and should not be asked for the things they have to perform yet. They're not ready to be ridden on this level, and neither are they ready to be shown in such a crowd. Edward Gal is a brutal rider. He has proven that with several horses already. But the important thing is not to blame individuals, but to educate the public. Correct and horse-friendly riding doesn't look spectacular. It doesn't require you to pull your horse up with your hand and it doesn't require your horse to have its head down or peddling with its legs. A horse can be ridden beautifully with a wide opened back and active hindlegs while his head is relaxed and up like he was running over the field to check something out. I suggest Philippe Karl's book about modern dressage. He is very provocative and I don't really like that, but he's right. Generally, try to get into the anatomy and biomechanical processes of horses to find out why this kind of riding is wrong. It is absolutely fascinating, even without that in mind. Once you sit on a highly trained horse that will move from shoulder-in to haunches-out to haunches-in in all three gaits just by slightly moving your weight you doubt everything that is going on with high level sports like this video. It is fascinating what you can do with a horse when you give it time and understanding. The horse is not for dressage. Dressage is for the horse. But not in this video.

@fraushrimp 5 жыл бұрын

@Chantel Prins: Alice already gave you a perfect answer, why these movements are not natural and unhealthy. I would like to invite you to a short experiment by yourself: Go down on your hands and knees. Your shoulders are straight above your hands and your hip is straight above your knees. Take your chin to your breast. Now lift one arm stretched as high as you can, but keep your shoulder and your hips in position! You will notice, that your whole weight of your upper body is on one hand, you need lots of strength, while your knees can`t help to carry the weight from the one hand on the ground. Go back to both hands. Now move your body a little backwards. Your shoulders are now a liitle behind your hands and your hip is a little behind your knees. Your chin is still on your breast. Lift one arm again as high as you can and you will notice it is much easier and more comfortable for you! Your knees can take lots of weight from your upper body and your hand on the ground is lightened. With much less power you are able to rise your lifted arm higher! Now press your head back into the nape of your neck. You will feel your upper body gets even more lighter and your arm is lifting even higher without any more power. Your knees take lots of weight, but you feel comfortable and light! Even an additional weight between your shoulders (the rider) wouldn't be a problem yet! :-) The horses in video are in the first position and nobody trained them to take weight to their hind legs. Furthermore they are not allowed to hold their heads in front of the vertical line but on the breast. So they need lots of muscles in their forehand to lift the front legs as high as shown. You can see in video that the front of the horses is very impressive and strong. But the back and the hind legs are weak and not able to carry weight. You can see, that the hind legs often get out of step. The whole weight of heavy forehand and rider is on only one leg! That's why these movements are fake and the horses will be lame in future! And the worst thing of all is: so many people like you or the audience don't notice any longer, that this way of riding and presenting a horse is totally wrong! That makes me cry, because it is hopeless :-(

@cheusden2775 4 жыл бұрын

@@fraushrimp So now we are going to compare a horses body and movement with a human body ? You realy think people breed a horse like that during several generations, then train them for a lot of money knowing that when they have finally reached the top they are goning to be lame ? Makes me curious how you think about jumping horses ! Is there any way at all in your vision that people may ride a horse ?

@fraushrimp 4 жыл бұрын

@@cheusden2775 My little experiment is not a question of a horse body or a human body. But it is a question of physical laws which are valid for all bodies! And yes, I really think, people breed and train horses (and other animals, e.g. agony breeding in dogs) without consideration. Just take an example from Totilas. People spend lots of money in his breeding and training and they earn even more money with him. Short-term success brings money. Only the last owner lost a lot of money, because the signs of wear became visible and Totilas got lame... Concerning your question, if I have any way in my vision that people may ride a horse, please read my post again carefully. Ecspecially in this section you'll find your answer: "The horses in video are in the first position and nobody trained them to take weight to their hind legs. Furthermore they are not allowed to hold their heads in front of the vertical line but on the breast. So they need lots of muscles in their forehand to lift the front legs as high as shown. You can see in video that the front of the horses is very impressive and strong. But the back and the hind legs are weak and not able to carry weight. You can see, that the hind legs often get out of step. The whole weight of heavy forehand and rider is on only one leg!" Finally I have also a question to you: Did you ever tried my experiment? It is (physically) impossible you didn't feel the different in your body while shifting the weight towards your knees!

@SCSU93 5 жыл бұрын

Gorgeous!

@rebeccaferguson7734 5 жыл бұрын

WOW just WOW.

@dominicweber 5 жыл бұрын

Those look like Hackneys, not KWPN

@fgvenlo8073 5 жыл бұрын

Fantastisch! Djw voor het delen van deze prachtige beelden.

@equestanton1017 5 жыл бұрын

I don't know about "kippevel" goosebumps, I got something entirely different. These horses are being ridden like American Saddlers and it looks decidedly ugly kitsch to me. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3S1kIKArqapmas This to me is not dressage. Seems the thin red line has been crossed. Hands held very high, horses ridden hollow backed heads up to exaggerate a goose step that is freakish to my eye. This is show time, not dressage, understood but horses should always be ridden correctly. The hind legs are almost redundant, this is how little genuine schwung they have achieved in training. I think a new kind of performance is called for "The Dutch Saddle Class". The horses aren't extending, they're paddling the air. What would truly have impressed me would be a long low and round trot, showing looseness and relaxation, I wish it was part of every Grand Prix test. A stretch in extension that came from the top of the wither rising up through the back into the hands, rather than the hands rising up to block the head, holding the head high and hollowing out the back. This kind of riding is worse than auction riding on young horses. It's quite sad that some audiences don't seem to be able to tell the difference, overwhelmed by the spectacle and music perhapse lol, insted of being underwhelmed by bad riding. I guess Dutch audiances must be a little less educated than most. Quite honestly Im also very bored with black horses to boot.

@westinjerome9910 3 жыл бұрын

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@ericklevi9735 3 жыл бұрын

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@@westinjerome9910 Besides Netflicks?