With hindsight, the Conservancy not taking an offer of free berthing in Brooklyn is what probably did her in more than anything. Not having to pay harbor fees would have meant donations could go towards cleaning her up enough to then market for visitors, even with the interior looking rough. Realistically she was never going to be fully restored, but just getting her into a state where tours could be done in some reconstructed spaces would have been enough I think to save her. Alas, she was just unlucky. Farewell beautiful lady, you deserved so much more
@cooldude815doesthings14Күн бұрын
This is a much better fate than scrapping to be honest, and it just means that I’ll have a reason to learn how to scuba-dive!
@JaimeExploringКүн бұрын
Thank You for sharing
@chammikar4912 күн бұрын
If I could buy it 😢
@JaimeExploringКүн бұрын
Exactly
@Pasha_202 күн бұрын
позорно будет творить историю на дне гнить в качестве рифа а не музея как Квин Мэри 👍
@JaimeExploringКүн бұрын
Exactly!
@dhilton77622 күн бұрын
The United States is actually going to sink its namesake because neither your government or your many billionaires have the slightest interest in stepping up and donating relatively little to organise a professional business plan to preserve for posterity the greatest vessel American shipyards ever produced. Engineering wise it is intact. Structurally it is sound. Okay some interiors have been stripped; the paint is peeling; the lifeboats are gone, but all this can be addressed. What is the matter with you? Even here in the demeaned Old Country we haven't yet stooped to melt down the crown jewels and burn Magna Carta because we don't have the patriotism or enthusiasm to keep them. I'm not talking about many enlightened US citizens donating a few dollars here and there to keep her moored up and in rusty limbo - your wealthy institutions could sort it overnight, and in the years to come your country would realise the true value of what was saved. Wake up to the terrible folly that the tired and hapless 'Conservancy' are willing to contemplate (no disrespect intended)!
@JaimeExploringКүн бұрын
Thank You for sharing the Insights
@tylermartin94743 күн бұрын
How about keep the whole damn ship as a museum piece instead of the stacks???
@TRexo-ds5ze2 күн бұрын
Have you got hundreds of millions of $$$ to do it?
@JaimeExploringКүн бұрын
Yes
@tylermartin947412 сағат бұрын
@@TRexo-ds5ze stop sending money to home illegals in this country right there is more than plenty to completely restore it
@clarkgriswald99093 күн бұрын
The conservancy had it in their head all along that they were going to transform it into a major tourist attraction in New York. When that didn't work out, they could have donated the ship to a number of history-based port cities that would've gladly taken her. I'm close to New Orleans, we have a huge shipyard here that rebuilds everything from naval vessels to modern cruise ships, it wouldn't have been a big deal to dry dock her here, slap on fresh paint, and conduct fund raising to rebuild her interiors while she waited in a fresh water port. Their greed and their narrow-minded approach led to this disaster. They need to be ashamed of themselves.
@dhilton77622 күн бұрын
I don't know the intimate details of how it came to this, but I feel genuinely sorry for your country concerning what is being contemplated for this magnificent, unique ship. Of all the nations of the world I cannot believe the wealthy United States is going to capitulate and destroy its very self for no good reason.
@TRexo-ds5ze2 күн бұрын
They couldn't give the ship away! A ship sitting at a quayside still costs a fortune to maintain and secure.
@JaimeExploringКүн бұрын
I'm sure it would be difficult to give away and donate Yet Thank You you for sharing
@YouSimon10004 күн бұрын
Internally, she had all the charm of a 1950's Howard Johnsons motel.
@JaimeExploring3 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing 😊
@hoppercar4 күн бұрын
The conservancy did not do it any good...just a lot of big talk....let it deteriorate into an eyesore that nobody wants
@JaimeExploring3 күн бұрын
Unfortunately nothing got worked out
@jeffl67164 күн бұрын
Once it's gone, it's gone. Keep in mind that this was made in a time when we could make such things. We can't make things like this anymore. Maybe we shouldn't throw this away while we're scatterbrained.
@JaimeExploring3 күн бұрын
Your correct, We don't make things like this anymore
@SupramanTRD4 күн бұрын
United States will give billions of dollars to random countries, but won't dedicate half a billion to restore a ship that represents it
@JaimeExploring3 күн бұрын
Very True
@uncle_rando4 күн бұрын
"Why? I did you so proud. Made a name for myself, those who built me, and the name I carried. You stripped me down to nothing and tried to pass me off as something. How'd that work out for both of us? Nice try for the last 30 yrs to rebuild what I had, as you stripped me to my bones because you thought you knew better. At least now, I can rest in peace. In the water I was meant to be in, while still being inviting, at least to a select few." - S.S. United States
@JaimeExploring3 күн бұрын
Thank You 🙏😊
@c.c.hiliner10654 күн бұрын
Welcome to your new "PENN STATION."....... 😢
@JaimeExploring3 күн бұрын
Wow Exactly
@keystonekid924 күн бұрын
Bullshit
@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan40144 күн бұрын
This is just disgraceful. That thing should just be preserved in Norfolk, not forgotten about in the onslaught of carcentric America.
@JaimeExploring3 күн бұрын
Hoping something may still change
@WilfredZeijpveld4 күн бұрын
A waste of precious metal, it seems they rather mine, with all negative impact, than save resources... this is being 'green' anno 2024
@JaimeExploring3 күн бұрын
Yes a Waste 😔
@chesterthawkins75104 күн бұрын
So sad, a metphor for America. It could have been restored and made into a hotel like Queen Mary in Long Beach.
@JaimeExploring3 күн бұрын
I think so!
@nelson2410714 күн бұрын
Biggest ever con and got many exited for a good future. More could of been done. TOTAL WASTE OF EVERYONES MONEY
@TRexo-ds5ze2 күн бұрын
"More could have been done". Like what exactly? The ship was being evicted, there was nowhere to go and a redevelopment plan would have cost the best part of a billion dollars. If you have the money get in touch with them.
@TheChadSmithPodcast4 күн бұрын
17 YEARS?!?!? How could an awesome ship like this only last 17 years?!
@JaimeExploring4 күн бұрын
Built to last for Years 👍
@waynemacfarland15464 күн бұрын
RIP, SS United States. Enjoy your future home down in Florida.
@JaimeExploring4 күн бұрын
Hope things work out
@RedElephantAlly4 күн бұрын
Such a waste. This pisses me off beyond belief. This ship is such a part of US history. Should be saved and toured. Still holds the blue riband for crying out loud. It was American engineering at its finest.
@JaimeExploring4 күн бұрын
Thank You for sharing 😊
@ErickaLemus774 күн бұрын
EXACTLY!!!!!!! The Government throws money on others, BUT!, for the US-built Ocean Liner, the only one left, they turned the eye. The SS UNITED STATES deserved the same treatment as the Queen Mary!!!!!!!!!!
@GP30_Foamer5 күн бұрын
I hate that people don’t seem to get that these people have been trying their absolute hardest to save the ship for so many years. If they didn’t fight for this long, she‘d have already probably been at the bottom of the ocean for years at this point
@JaimeExploring4 күн бұрын
True, Thanks for sharing
@hot2warmКүн бұрын
I dunno. After they brought her here, you never heard much about her. She just became something in the background after awhile.
@LawyerCalhoun15 күн бұрын
When the Queen Mary was retired from service, it traveled on a final cruise, intact, under its own power, with passengers, from England, around Cape Horn and to California. It went directly from revenue passenger service to tourist attraction without decades of neglect. It would cost a fortune to restore the United States to any semblance of its former self.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Thank You for sharing, you're correct, others have shared the same Insights
@NathanielHelmick5 күн бұрын
S.S. United States is in Norfolk VA to be stripped down
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Yes
@Arceemunoz5 күн бұрын
Anyone who sinks this ship are those who betrayed God.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
It's Unfortunate after all these years, nothing got done
@Arceemunoz5 күн бұрын
First, the Boeing 747 was discontinued, and now THIS??? I HATE THIS Fate!!!!!😡😡😡
@starxlr78635 күн бұрын
Totally agree. This is so infuriating and disheartening!
@barneypfeffer30323 күн бұрын
Just like the unitedstates if the co mmie dems get the white house again they both will be sunk.this ship will no longer exist.an artificial reef it then will be.like sunken ships gone
@coroniccreatures77525 күн бұрын
you do not sink such a ship.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
If anything, it could have made a beautiful backdrop somewhere, if they would have just painted the Ship. Then built a museum around it
@restoredoutboards5 күн бұрын
And so the SS United States ship will sink into history as her very namesake is slowly doing on land. Everything has a life expectancy. The ship and her namesake nation seemingly…and sadly are on similar paths these days.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Thank You
@RyanTodd-hk9do5 күн бұрын
This is one of the many reasons Philadelphia sucks...
@gordonsflash86124 күн бұрын
The city had nothing to do with the ship...
@RyanTodd-hk9do3 күн бұрын
@@gordonsflash8612 I'm just joking man
@theallseeingkats63213 күн бұрын
Its gonna sink just like the country its named after...
@wilsonburgess71965 күн бұрын
This is the fate of the fastest passenger ship to cross the Atlantic...EVER? Inexplicable.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Maybe something can change in the next few months Yet they signed those papers
@navelriver5 күн бұрын
Imagine if a consortium of American and international companies (particularly defence contractors) united to restore the SS United States as a tribute to freedom and democracy. Had their chance, muffed it.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Yes they had the opportunity
@myopinioncountsmost24195 күн бұрын
There goes the "conservancy's" money grab. Years and years of donations for absolutely nothing but storage and salaries.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
It's Unfortunate after all these years, nothing could get done
@gordonsflash86124 күн бұрын
They were non profit volunteers, all their irs documents are readily available online....Noone got rich
@TRexo-ds5ze2 күн бұрын
Such a moronic comment - nobody got rich out of this, it needed a lot more money than the donations.
@bferguson92775 күн бұрын
The languishing SS United States is an allegory of the current state of America.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
It's like our history is fading
@barr4745 күн бұрын
A disgraceful act of vandalism to deliberately destroy such an icon. How much would it cost to rub down, repaint and put on show in New York harbour as a static exhibit
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Thank You for sharing this
@clarkgriswald99092 күн бұрын
She wouldn't last in a salt water port - most important part in preserving any historic ship is to move it to fresh water. Or like they did in Long Beach, build a breakwater all around it and keep the ship itself in fresh water even if the adjacent harbor is salt water.
@Sunnywolf20015 күн бұрын
Why can’t she be preserved like the queen Mary? Why do we treat a British oceaner with way more respect than our own?
@styldsteel15 күн бұрын
Two queens actually. Queen Mary, and the Saudies beautifully restored Queen Elizabeth II . this is the new United States ( country) remember? We obliterate our icons and statues.
@FrederickTheAnon14W5 күн бұрын
@@styldsteel1 The United States as our (F)ounding F(a)thers envisioned it is gone, it died a long time ago. This is just another example of how our once great country only exists in the past now.
@gridley5 күн бұрын
The timing for the QM fell in place. Everything had to align perfectly in the late 1960s for the ship to remain intact. Around the same time, the Queen Elizabeth liner was also retired. But after a short time moored north of Miami, it eventually burned down in Hong Kong harbor. The QE2, a relic of the late 1960s (when the QM & QE retired), is struggling as a floating business in Dubai, UAE. The QM since its premiere year in 1972 as the same thing has faced a lot of ups & downs.
@styldsteel15 күн бұрын
@@gridley happy to report there is a lot of Interest in Queen Mary. As of late, She is turning profit, and her restoration is well underway.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Interesting for sure
@MsMaurice235 күн бұрын
Hi Jaime its Jennifer I spoke to the conservancy and OKALOOSA county government. At my request I asked kindly could they remove the smoke stacks and crows nest. It doesn't need to go down with the ship. I also requested that any operational gages and other working equipment to be donated to the last remaining American ferry ship the SS Badger also built 1951 in Michigan. The badger is running out of parts to use . JAIME LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO FLORIDA. I WILL MEET YOU THERE. PEOPLE THAT ARE READING THIS YOU HAVE 3 MONTHS BEFORE THEY STRIP THE SHIP ANY FURTHER AND ONE YEAR BEFORE THEY SINK HER TO SAVE THE SHIP AND TELL OKALOOSA COUNTY TO DEVELOPE THE SS UNITED STATES INSTEAD OF SINKING HER 😢
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Thank You
@starxlr78635 күн бұрын
This entire situation is so disheartening. I am devastated after coming to know this ship a few years back and donating whatever I could to help with keeping her there. I just do not agree with reefing her. Don't understand why there isn't any other location for her to remain above water like she was intended for.
@henrynevins5 күн бұрын
The Conservancy never intended to save the SSUS, from the beginning their stated goal was to "preserve her history" in the past tense as if she was already gone. Jerry Lenfest gave them $5mil, $2mil to buy the ship, $3mil for dockage and find a buyer. Instead they enjoyed themselves holding lavish yacht parties, hiring a tug to tour New York Harbor, and several fake press conferences naming a specific buyer and the buyer responding no deal, no contact or negotiations existed. The whole purpose of owning the SSUS was to aggrandize themselves, hopes the ship's fame would rub off on themselves. To speak with anyone from the Conservancy, responses were always condescending, the elitist group always knows better than the common rabble. After the $3mil was gone, dockage rent was paid by donations from the common rabble. Susan Gibbs who knew nothing of the SSUS until the Conservancy was created took for herself a salary of $80,000/yr from donation money raised by the nickels and dimes of children setting up tables in malls, while non-profit org members usually volunteer their time. Instead of lavish parties, first priority with $3mil in hand should have been to find a less expensive pier to dock the ship, perhaps put her in one of the nation mothball fleet locations? Their publicized "farewell signing ceremony" should make most people vomit, once again glory all about themselves when they really should hang their heads in shame, then go home and cry. The SSUSC has been a disgrace from day one, they never cared, just crocodile tears. Did you all know that Conservancy members will now personally profit in the millions $$$ by selling the SSUS to become an artificial reef, why care about the ship when stabbing it and the people of the country in the back will make you rich? If Jamie Exploring deletes this post, then you're censoring the facts and truth which ended the SS United States existence..
@FrederickTheAnon14W5 күн бұрын
If this is true then why are they sinking her? If they are so elitist and greedy then this is them basically killing their "golden goose" because most people will stop donating. I don't disagree with you, but if this is the case then they are being very foolish.
@ParproGD5 күн бұрын
We've officially lost, farwell SS US. :C
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Unfortunate
@ransome515 күн бұрын
I think removing the funnels before it's sunk is misguided. Tantamount to defacing a grand old lady by removing her jewelry before she's buried.
@FrederickTheAnon14W5 күн бұрын
It is what it is unfortunately. People tried their best to save her but it was to no avail. This co(u)ntry is completely lost, and once people realize that then they will be better off. This whole controversy regarding the ship is just another clear example of this, since if the U.S still had prime in itself they would have stepped in.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Thank You for sharing
@Kaiserzeit18715 күн бұрын
Na endlich kommt der Schandfleck weg.
@styldsteel15 күн бұрын
Who? You?
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Unfortunate, maybe something will change in the next year or so
@Boypogikami1326 күн бұрын
“A new era” right, *under the sea.*
@FrederickTheAnon14W5 күн бұрын
There is no new era. She'll sit down there and rust away until nothing is left. Sure it'll take a while, but eventually it'll be gone.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
The conservancy staff looked very sad
@ValtyrBjarnarson6 күн бұрын
Adeu Big U.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Yes
@JohnDoe-ot3zd6 күн бұрын
It's so sad to see a historic ship destroyed! With all the billionaires out there, you think one would step up and save a piece of American history. The Walton family could easily save this ship and others.....sad.
@FrederickTheAnon14W5 күн бұрын
These billionaires don't care about (A)merica, when are you going to realize that?
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Was hoping someone or a company was going to step in
@gordonsflash86123 күн бұрын
Why would they? Your interest s obviously differ from theirs...
@deansmith69246 күн бұрын
They are about to put the United States under water. Let that sink in
@FrederickTheAnon14W5 күн бұрын
It's already been under water for years now.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Unfortunate
@deansmith69246 күн бұрын
The government always finds money to destroy, never to help or save the nation. And you pay for it all. It’s not as if Florida just had a national disaster and has no money to help citizens 🤔
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Maybe something will change in the next year or so but they're going to strip the ship of all its paint
@Xenoss20046 күн бұрын
So let me get this straight The government wastes money on supplying foreign countries with artillery and resources involved in foreign wars and fund them just so they can pretend to be saints when it’s corporate greed they couldn’t care less about preserving their own country history because they can’t face the fact that America as we know it today was built on greed they will standby and let their history get destroyed because the truth hurts them so much and their precious egos
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Thank You for sharing Insights
@АрсенГорбуненко6 күн бұрын
I like the way US cant save their most famous ocean liner. But they spend money for useless shit. In the end that will be nice and symbolic pucture- United States at the bottom... Sad reality.
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Very Unfortunate
@Maxxie19456 күн бұрын
I’m not American and I think this is bullshit preserve it not sink it
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
It's really too bad this has happened
@Thomas-6246 күн бұрын
This is depressing, that ship looks so good
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Looks Amazing, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of video of her when she gets transferred
@dklm20236 күн бұрын
Plus, to be honest, it’s better than being scrapped a giant artificial reef is exactly what we need. Just imagine this in 100 years. It’ll probably be a massive reef with life and beautiful nis. That’s a pretty good thing to be remembered for right.
@FrederickTheAnon14W5 күн бұрын
"That's a pretty good thing to be remembered for right" no. She will sit at the bottom and rust away until nothing is left, and in 15-20+ years the younger generations won't even remember her. And IF they do then you can bet that this decision will be looked upon with aminosity for a long time, and will go down as one of the greatest mistakes/darkest hours of maritime preservation.
@dklm20235 күн бұрын
@@FrederickTheAnon14W dude how do you know that the ship won’t be remembered. You know your just guessing that it will get forgotten like how do you know that it will. And to be honest already the younger generation doesn’t know of its existence only the kids that like ships know about it
@JaimeExploring5 күн бұрын
Very Unfortunate after all these years nothing could get done