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@romanpuchko
@romanpuchko 19 күн бұрын
What a lovely day that was! Thanks to all of you, guys! 😍
@carinegunn35
@carinegunn35 24 күн бұрын
😡 P r o m o S M
@EcoplusLogic
@EcoplusLogic 26 күн бұрын
Дуже все правильно кажете пане Романе
@storm22221
@storm22221 2 ай бұрын
Вітаю. Які пож. рішення застосовуються в ситуації виконання 4го поверху з дерева (несучі конструкції)?
@richardford9321
@richardford9321 8 ай бұрын
Controlling/ending growth is inimical to a capitalist system and the alternative to growth is socialist bureaucracy in which we can count economic collapse and extreme poverty. The prelude to this fiction about ecological collapse is climate change which is a hoax. To sum up this scaremongering about ecological collapse and degrowth is bullshit.
@freddyfrazier5956
@freddyfrazier5956 Жыл бұрын
promo sm 😭
@pavlovezdenetsky7824
@pavlovezdenetsky7824 Жыл бұрын
Дякую за публікацію
@rethinkua
@rethinkua Жыл бұрын
Будь ласка! Раді, що Вам цікаво!
@timtam2126
@timtam2126 Жыл бұрын
Great episode 👏 thanks from New Zealand 🇳🇿
@havadatequila
@havadatequila Жыл бұрын
It's no coincidence that the worst offender, the US, is the most entrenched consumerist ideological population on the planet.
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 Жыл бұрын
Please check out Vaclav Smil's book Growth. I think, we need to understand how preposterous the myth of growth has been, for thousands of years. Before we can even begin to imagine any anti-growth or degrowth. After reading Smil's book - i felt, that 90% of the things I learned in school, college, society, parents and dominant culture was ill - defected - heading for a disaster. And now, that disaster is here !!
@markschuette3770
@markschuette3770 Жыл бұрын
great summery of the solutions! although these recommendation would jam up the court system for many many years! why not just use taxes to increase the costs of the damaging practices/products? or possibly one big tax on fossil fuels may do it all???
@rethinkua
@rethinkua Жыл бұрын
Very good question, Mark!
@Achrononmaster
@Achrononmaster Жыл бұрын
@52:00 he's got UBI all wrong. No government should supply all demand for zero supply. Think about who makes the real goods you happily consume on your UBI? It's some poor worker in the global south most likely. UBI is highly regressive, unless your nation is self-sufficient and not importing anything from the global south. Norway and Alaska can have a UBI because someone else is buying their oil and putting some poor working class grunt under the hammer to produce the goods Norwegians and Alaskans consume. If the goal is to give the poor more purchasing power then offer them public service work at a decent living wage, not a UBI pittance.
@Achrononmaster
@Achrononmaster Жыл бұрын
@40:00 the Job Guarantee MMT style is not a job or make-work program Jason! it is a buffer policy, for transitioning workers back to private or public sector employment at above the floor wage. We should never use a JG as a public works scheme since that'd be highly regressive, if we _need_ public work done then the worker deserves a decent wage and permanent offer. The JG should thus be very small, around 3% of the workforce who are transitioning or need a break from full time employment, or who desire the unconditional offer as a claim on their government for purposes of tiding over while they maybe organize a worker cooperative or whathaveyou.
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld Жыл бұрын
31:49 *guilting consumers is not the answer* It’s not about changing personal behavior-I do not see consumers as the problem. Consumers I see as effectively a victim of a machine that is organized around constantly increasing extraction, production and consumption.
@Achrononmaster
@Achrononmaster Жыл бұрын
@36:00 nice wee point on combating planned obsolescence here. If manufacturers are required by law to repair or replace fee free within expected product lifetime (traceable consumer institute standards) then not only are they incentivised to make long-life products, it gives the science nerds in the metrology standards labs more useful things to do (I worked there, and they do a lot of boring shyte calibrating instruments with their eyes half closed).
@veltha900
@veltha900 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Consider us on board for re-building ukraine circular!
@johnmckeown4931
@johnmckeown4931 Жыл бұрын
Is not the greatest and most startling fact to emerge from this talk the number of views it has received, just under 3,000 and six comments! It speaks volumes about where humanity is at today. Sad.
@brianwheeldon4643
@brianwheeldon4643 2 жыл бұрын
I live in New Zealand. Growth is a very important part of the economy here, wherever did that information come from? We have a Green party fixated on Growth, A Labour Govt fixated on growth and two right wing parties (whatever that means these days) similarly fixated. Important to know that when Jason uses the term Appropriation, he means killing, rape, mayhem, violent theft and the stealing of natural resources and mutilation of the said country's land, ecosystems, health system and other infrastructure, and its economy generally. This necessitates such country being forced to borrow on the international markets, capital and short term finance or an IMF austerity programme, all funds coming from the rich global north charged at high interest rates. QED How UK grew its huge empire and USA followed by Europe. China doesn't always smash a country it tends to tie it into economic financial dependency without endless wars, at least so far more or less by comparison to the UK, USA European model. There are exceptions
@Achrononmaster
@Achrononmaster Жыл бұрын
That scenario requires _cooperation with the imperialists_ of the global south government. So it is not a necessitation that they need to borrow foreign currency, it is willing ransack by their own governments. Any decent populist government with their own worker's interests to heart would tell the extractors to F off. They never need to borrow foreign currency then, just import, float the exchange rate, and take the inflation pass-through hit, since if they run full employment and produce output for domestic needs that pass-through inflation will not last too long, and issuing a fiat currency it can be sustained as long as needed. The rich hoarders in that country will "pay for it" then, provided the worker _real wage_ is maintained (hence the inflation tolerance resilience is needed for a short term). The key to sustaining high nominal inflation is you never allow the base _real wage_ to drop, you force the hoarders to take all the hits. Needs a strong popular government though, supported by a super majority of the working class. Obviously you do not want to be trade embargoed by the OECD in New Zealand like Cuba, but looking at how Cuba has survived despite the embargo is a lesson to learn from: always keep your people employed in non-bullsh*t jobs. They had severe inflation due to COVID supply bottlenecks, but by now it's back to tolerable tradingeconomics.com/cuba/inflation-cpi They keep their people employed better than most: tradingeconomics.com/cuba/unemployment-rate which is why no one dies homeless on the street there, despite massive economic warfare from the USA. Though they could go to 1% to 2% base unemployment if they used better automatic stabilisers (job guarantee labour buffer policy).
@tanyagordienko6761
@tanyagordienko6761 2 жыл бұрын
Пишаюся нашими українцями! Браво, Євгене! Англійською вільно. Браво. Успіхів в чудових справах. Зелена планета!
@ibiwoyemuhammedyakub8145
@ibiwoyemuhammedyakub8145 2 жыл бұрын
Bilateral and Multilateral Cooperation Initiatives.
@unidadeducativaarturoeichl6885
@unidadeducativaarturoeichl6885 2 жыл бұрын
It is not only that the rich consume the resources that are desperately needed by the poor to overcome poverty, but also that the rich often transfer their wastes to poor regions. Electronic waste, plastic waste, all kinds of solid wastes mainly produced by the rich end-up polluting the poorest areas of the world. I´ve always thought that if the rich could send their carbon emissions to poor countries, so that climate change affects only the poor, they would be happy to do so. But it´s even worse that this, there is absolutely no evidence to support the idea that the rich have better living standards, nor that their are happier, live longer, or any other beneffit derived from their extremely high levels of consumption and waste production. They in fact don´t get any measurable beneffit from the resources they often violently take from those whose fate depends on those resources. The global economy and the international trade are one of the most absurd things I have seen in my life. They are designed so that rich people can steal from the poor without consequences, while the environment suffers huge damage. An then, they become "philantropists". They give to the poor a tiný fraction of what they take from them, and they self-proclaime "saviors". I love the phrase by Thomas Piketty: "There is nothing wrong with philantropy, as far as it does not replace taxation." Our world is full of philantropists who don´t pay their taxes, who are happy to get involved in the corruption of tax haves, who are happy to manage huge monopolies that harm people and the economy. Any way, our economy is absurd, unfair, and is leading us to a global social and ecological catastrophy... But I´m sure Janson already knows this...
@Achrononmaster
@Achrononmaster Жыл бұрын
Right, but check your definitions. People who accumulate massive surplus (to their needs) financial wealth without spending it _all_ to aid the poor are not philanthropic. Just change that to "anti-philanthropists".
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld Жыл бұрын
Yes totally agree. Slavoj Zizek calls this, “taking with one hand, giving with the other.” Like Starbucks including into the price of a cup of coffee, $1 for starving children, creating the illusion of _the more you buy the more you give._ All a bunch of marketing optics, obviously getting down to the real data shows how hollow/how superficial and regressive these types of philanthropic gaslighting are-it helps secure nothing but the destruction of trust, makes society into hopeless cynics. We are living through a massive criminal age right now, our leaders are captured by corporate cash, we have almost no union power, congress is divorced from public opinion, wages have stagnated for the majority for almost half a century, on the brink of major war and recessions. C’est la vie. Jason and others like Piketty are doing good work.
@jacobedward2401
@jacobedward2401 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of work left to do in America, where Fox is saying "Democrats will steal your hamburgers!!" I have a cousin who I bet is stocking up on frozen beef 😑
@efortune357
@efortune357 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great talk ***24:22 “This is what you do. The IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) was very clear about this. You scale down aggregate material production and consumption in high consuming, rich nations. As we scale down material production and consumption this shrinks total energy demands making it easier for us to accomplish a rapid transition to renewables. I have to emphasize this is the only workable model the IPCC has ever developed that does not rely on speculative negative emissions schemes in the future. So they want us to take this very seriously. It’s interesting to have an approach to reducing emissions that focuses on reducing resource throughput. Why? Because it takes an extraordinary amount of energy to extract, and produce, and transport all of the material stuff that the economy uses each year. The less of that you do, the energy you use, the easier it is to accomplish a rapid transition to renewables. So this is known as ‘degrowth’. It’s a planned downscaling of resource and energy use that’s designed to bring the economy back into balance with the living world and to achieve our climate objectives in a safe, just and equitable way. (25:35) The good news is that degrowth can be accomplished while at the same time improving people’s lives and advancing human progress. This is where it gets exciting. And the reason is because we know for a fact, and the peer reviewed literature is very clear on this, that rich countries do not need more GDP growth. After a certain point, which rich countries have long since surpassed, the relationship between GDP and social indicators: poverty, well-being, happiness, wages, life expectancy, education etc, everything, completely breaks down. This should be liberating news for us. So for example, you take the USA. USA has a real GDP per capita of $60,000 dollars per person. Now compare that that to Portugal. Portugal has a real GDP per capita of about $20,000 US dollars per person. So 60% less around about or more. And yet Portugal has longer life expectancy and out performs the US on virtually every social indicator despite having 60%+ less GDP per capita than the US does. How do they do that? They do it by sharing existing income more fairly. And by investing in robust, universal public services. Over and over again, it’s clear that you can do this with relatively little GDP per capita. And when it comes to delivering strong social outcomes and flourishing lives for all that is what matters. And this is why so many countries are able to achieve extremely high levels of life expectancy and other social indicators, outperforming the US by a long shot with significantly less GDP per capita. That should be inspiring to us. And the reason is it’s not just growth that matters, it’s the distribution of income.” ***1:01:30 “I lay out dozens of survey results in the book to show that majorities in the region of 70% Europe and other high income regions actively support post-growth principles. In experiments that we have from studies done by Yale and Harvard academics show that in conditions of direct democracy people are more likely to make decisions that prioritize human well-being and ecological stability and deprioritize growth. That to me is remarkable. So the kind of economy I’m calling for has never been tried before but it’s something we have to develop creatively ourselves. And we should not be afraid of this process because we are a culture that prizes innovation and creativity. We would never look at a smart phone or a painting and say that is the best smart phone or painting that has ever been created and it will never be surpassed, and we should never even try. And yet for some reason we look at capitalism and our imagination just locks down, this is the only system we could ever have and we shouldn’t even try to invent another one. What I’m calling for is for us to apply principles of reason, and creativity, and innovation to our economic system and build something fundamentally better.” ~Jason Hickel I do think a UBI can coexist nicely with a jobs guarantee and a shorter workweek
@SakuraBlue1
@SakuraBlue1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 Жыл бұрын
Hi. "consumption in high consuming, rich nations..." They will never do it. There is not a single nation where we can see such scale down. Speaking of the nations like Spain, France, Germany, Holland. It's all about upward growth - more production - more trash - more carbon emissions. Yes cosmetic changes like giving up meat, being vegan, mindfulness bullshit, electric cars, bicycles etc are very popular - however it makes zero difference to net emissions. Simply put, everyday in everynation production and consumption is going up.
@wraithwrecker_
@wraithwrecker_ 3 жыл бұрын
Truly horrifying. We need degrowth in the global north NOW.