Oh yeah, I forgot to do that. Thanks for reminding me :)

@honeybee-zm np

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I'm not really interested in covering any of the secrets in the game and I mostly just want to do challenges.

Ok

the middle weed is the most dangerous point in the run as it's close to the middle so rattlers and pumpkin jacks can reach it very quickly and cablecrow can attack you from all sides. this is why i have the emergency route for when i can't break the middle weed third.

And rattlers ingame

pumpkin jacks mostly just get cheap kills by going around corners so you can't see them quick enough or they just overwhelm you when going to the exit as there are 29 of them and you need to go straight towards them. zardy would have killed me here anyways so this isn't even the best example of this happening. rattlers are also just comically overpowered in abyss foolhardy though.

@@honeybee-zm the ones in the memoria mod are way worse though

@@notatryhardanontryhard-je3bw yeah i knew about that already. they can already outrun the player at diff 3 while og abyss rattlers can't even outrun you at diff 4. I'm not even gonna try memoria abyss foolhardy while rattlers are still in this state as that just wouldn't be fun. they should be fixed in the next update though as sapphireHESUS already knows what's causing it.

I only started playing this again like two weeks ago.

Hey, do you happen to have any video proof of you beating it? It's just kinda hard to believe someone would actually do this without recording it. I would also just love to see another completion of abyss foolhardy.

@@honeybee-zm If I could record, I would do it. I beat the challenge by doing a waiting strategy. If you can manage to do this without the flashlight, maybe you could attempt bloodmoon foolhardy

I don't have a camera or screen recorder, so I can't currently upload

@@alsgaming4244 my biggest problem with bloodmoon is just how dark it gets after the maze closes. i could brighten my screen a ton but that would still look not that nice when it's closed and way too bright when it's not closed. i also don't know how to change the brightness in the video itself so watching it would be awful. i would have probably done/attempted bloodmoon if it didn't get so dark.

derndeff said that he's going to fix these problems by making them go to the nearest navigatable point when they can't reach you, so they won't lose you when you jump and get close enough to kill you when you're on graves or walls. he also said he will be fixing hitboxes so you can't just camp a spot that's too high for the nextbots to reach.

@@honeybee-zm good good

@@honeybee-zm just uploaded a patch in version 1.0.2... i'm sure you will find more exploits, but I tried to catch everything

@@derndeff so i just tested the old exploits, and jumping doesn't make them lose you as much anymore and the nextbots can now kill you on walls/graves, but some graves are still too high for them to reach and you can still get on top of the building on the hill.

it looks like you don't know this (idk if there's even a way to know) but the graves are not selected uniformly randomly. Instead, one grave will be randomly selected from one random region (forest, gulley, foggy slope, field, gravel hill), and that region will not be picked again until all region have been selected. In other words, each of the first 5 muncies are guaranteed to be from every unique region without repeating a region. Once you find one in the field, another one will not spawn there until the 6th munci.... unless there's some bug lol

@@derndeff i didn't know this but it actually makes sense now that i do. at first i thought it would pick a different region from the one you found the last munci in, but once i found the sixth munci almost next to the fifth in no run, i thought it was completely random. i was also very surprised that i found the first munci in the first grave.

he's too skilled

i see this will also serve as a study for bug fixes haha

going on top of graves or walls makes the nextbots go to the last spot you were before you went on top of it. so you can just wait for the nextbots to despawn and listen for munci's children in the meantime. this can sometimes even be better than the safe zone, because you keep the radio.

@@honeybee-zm I can totally see how the graves and walls are better than the safe zone in that case... I'll look into what's happening, it's good to know that they sit where you were previously standing. It should be an easy fix where I have them navigate to the closest navigate-able point near the player when the player isn't technically reachable!

@@derndeff you should also take away the ability to use the radio in the end cutscene, because the camera snapping back to munci when i try to look away tells me that's not supposed to happen.

@@honeybee-zm definitely not supposed to happen, I know for a fact I wrote some code to prevent that but it uh, doesn't seem to be working lolol

it's mostly up to brute rng whether you can get the third weed or not because the rattlers can get there way too quickly

What does Abyss/Blood Moon change anyway

this only took 50 minutes so it wasn't that bad.

I completed agoraphobic no flashlight, IDK what number completion though

no

i'm bored