It's all good. These are used with Allen Cap screws. They can be found in a larger range of fasteners in industry. From bolts to set screws. One common place I use them is electrical connections known as mechanical lugs. I hope this was helpful. These are really handy to have around and the quality has been great so far.

I would agree with that. The Friction tip retention is not good. A similar if not exact setup will be coming up in another video.

As of right now you are correct. I'm hoping they will sell individual components sometime soon.

I was wondering if you might recognize these. They seem pretty well made. These were on clearance last year, so they are definitely beyond the Western Forge Era. I have both older and newer Channellock screw drivers that'll be showing up on the channel at some point. I'll be curious to see where those came from as well.

@@TalkingHandsTools Channellock has had many models of screwdrivers over the years including some soft grip versions made by integra spain of all places that makes adjustables. Ive never known them to make there own wire strippers or screwdrivers ussaly farmed out to a oem. This is why every line over there years has gone away sales lack of manufactures ect. Channelocks prybars as well are made by mayhew or wilde same people who make the walmart Hypertough usa made models. This depends on the era eairler ones were mayhew 5-7 years newer are wilde. So many of these usa manufacturers are going away soon none will exist. Eagle grips were the biggest loss in the last few years I paid full price for 4+ pairs because i wanted them to succeed.

I bought this set a couple years back. I don’t use them much, but they seem nice for the price. The set does not contain a T27, which is what’s used on Stihl chainsaws. Channelock made a T27 sold separately that fits this set. That’s the one I used the most. I don’t know what else uses T27, but it’s a nice driver for chainsaws.

I just looked at the new ones online, snapon trilobe style 😢, glad I got these.

@jthatguys I didn't even notice T27 is missing. Thank you for pointing that out. Have they held up good overall? Any problems with tips wearing, rusting or handles chipping?

Unfortunately, I do not. I do have a schematic that calls out each component on the community page.

Someone I work with has some wera screwdrivers that are pretty nice.

I agree they are molded very well and don't have any noticeable overmold to catch your fingers as you use them. We get into a fair number of industrial machines shipped over from Germany and the EU. The screws might look like they are Phillips, but they aren't. I haven't really come across JIS. If I did, I may have confused it with Pozi.

@@TalkingHandsTools When I worked on alot of cnc machines Manual impacts or vessel impacta jis screwdrivers were darn near mandtory. We tested out to see if it easily came out if not always a manual impact. This kept us from damaging the screws or expensive equipment. As you could tell this sure took alot of time to be so careful but they were a half a million to 2 so better not mess up a part. Also many were old german machines from the 40-60's with computers attached. Still could do half a thou tolerance all day long so i get it.

I've noticed even a lot of the new Rockwell Automation equipment has Pozi Drive screws. I was just using the longer #2 driver today on some. I haven't got into much older stuff that was Pozi. Some of the older machines were extremely accurate and ran for a long time. That's neat stuff.

I would like to see them sell all the components individually. Even if that would be online sales only.

Thanks for the comment. I've also found the two speeds are nice and like how quiet it is. On high as we tested it's actually more power than the M18. I have to say that really surprised me. The run time is short buy as you said if you're doing spot clean ups it's great.

That's a really good buy.

@ right?! Couldn’t believe my eyes! 🤣

@fool-on-the-hill I really like this updated version with the locking collet and the clutch.

@ I didn’t know they came out with the first version, but when I discovered that, I appreciated the updated version as well. The snap-in collet is great! Is a mechanical clutch better than an electric clutch?

@fool-on-the-hill I like it better. Everyone has their preferences though. I think what I really like about this is the tool shuts off when the clutch kicks.

I agree this thing does seem clunky. I'm not overly impressed with the universal drive. It seems gimmicky. There may be the oddball tight spot it might bail you out of one day but I'm not sure the overall bulk and lack of features would make it worth it if I were to only purchase one driver. Keep me up to date on the Go3. So far of the ones I've looked at, I feel it's a top contender. We'll know more once I get into the testing phase.

The one feature the go 3 has that I thought would be terrible but is working out great is the push drive. If a screw is too tight and you push hard it keeps reseting like a impact almost. And restarts over and over surprisingly useful. This is unlike any other push drives I've used in the past dremmel worx bosch ect.

Anytime you add adapters u joints ect you are loosing power even a small amount. That alone could be a factor and complexity that's just makes it unnecessary for many including me.

That's interesting. I'll have to try and show that in my video testing it.

I agree completely.

I might do some 8V stuff after we finish up with all the 4V.

It's a great crimper. I favor the Channellock version over the Klein, but both are really good Crimpers.

@ I can see why with the slots swapped it is a easier tool to use.

@natashaball316 that's the only reason to be honest.

A cordless version might be fun to play around with. I love playing around with things like this.

That's really interesting. I'll try that method and see if it helps. I guess passing it from one side to the other, like I did, kind of did something similar but clearly not the same. Thanks for the comment it was very helpful. I didn't have anything to go on as you saw.

Found it on eBay. We did a video on the meter itself last Wednesday.

@ thank you 👍

I'm torn between having fun with the gloves as they age or replacing them. They still have some life in them.

You are correct. I should have gone over it in the video a little better. I feel if I need an adapter on an adapter, that's not a practical solution for proficiency. It works okay for occasional use but not sustained. The jenkyness gets too frustrating fairly quick.

@@TalkingHandsTools Agreed. Feels like Klein leaves some items out to keep you coming back. I got the Essential Knect M kit...I may add a dedicated flip socket set with these splines later. Thanks for the videos, man. Or hands?

You may be on to something with leaving out a piece here and there. Most the sets have every which way ability. That was partly why I thought it was odd they left it out. The flip sockets are decent I've not had any issues yet. I find them really handy if I only need a size or two, and I'm walking really far to what we are working on. It really reduces what you have to carry. Thanks for the kind words. I'm hoping to show what I can on these sets so people can decide if it's something that will help them out or not.

I picked this one mostly cause the AAA batteries, but you're right it does seem a little more rugged than some of the others. So far, it's worked as expected, and there are no real surprises yet.

I got the charger on eBay. The listing I bought from is no longer active. If you search for 8 Port USB charger you should find something.

I completely agree. This would be a great contender considering the price point if it had a locking chuck. There is a new version of the Worx out that we also did a review on here on the channel. That has a locking chuck and is an overall upgraded version of this driver.

What ratchet do you have 3/8 square drive or something else?

@TalkingHandsTools yes I'm basically wanting to be able to use these with a square drive 3/8. I use my 18v ridgid ratchet a lot.

The flip sockets are the only ones I know you can use right now with what I've seen. I will double-check, but I'm pretty sure that's the case without an unreasonable amount of adapters.

@TalkingHandsTools I'm hoping the have an adapter released, that will make these sockets to be able to be used with any tool.

It would be nice to have a more slim adapter for the pass through sockets to 3/8 or 1/4. 1/2 might have too little material to work well.

It seems most people gravitate towards the 8v. I can see a purpose for the smaller lighter 4v version, though, if you don't need the power.

@ No doubt - particularly people doing bench work on electronics I would bet.

Yes any low torque application I think this would be good.

Yes, it's a magnetic chuck. There is no locking mechanism.

That's great input. I'll try to think of a way I can repeatably check the RPM under a load.

That's what you'll notice with Japanese work they don't focus on crushing torque. It's all about the smallest lightest tool that will do the job along with ergonomics. It's why I use my vessel electric screwdriver so much.

@@TalkingHandsTools Thanks.

I'd agree with that. The part I don't like is they advertise 44 in lbs we didn't get anywhere near that in our testing. This is a great low torque use tool, and I'm hoping to show the types of work this can do reliably.

@ I have one of these and I bought it for PC building and tasks like that. the way it acctuates lends itself to easy one hand operation, without haveing to adjust your grip. I also have the DeWalt 8v gyro, and that is by far my favorite electric screwdriver. On the advertised torque, you would have to know and match the tests they used and see if you can replicate it. Also, knowing how they are test would inform, if the test was worth a crap or not. Just my thoughts.

@Gooch072, you're definitely right about how the tests are done. I've hooked up many 5 Horsepower motors, and there's no way a motor on a shop vac is 5 Horsepower, yet that's the advertised range. The shop vac is a good example that comes to mind of numbers games to come to a number. If a shop vac was actually 5 HP you certainly wouldn't have a 16 gauge cord on the VAC. The numbers game was the main reason I didn't try to hit the advertised number. I figured we could use the same rig on all the screwdrivers and compare our own numbers. That way, we can see more of an even playing field between all the models.

I found it on Ebay. The listing I bought from sold out. As always, with Ebay, check out the seller before you buy.

That's kinda what I'm thinking. Eventually, I'll have to give in and get new ones.

Yeah, from what I've seen so far, I wouldn't suggest it. Maybe it'll prove itself when we start testing. I'm not overly optimistic it will, but I've had a few surprises in this series so far.

Send me some part numbers you'd like me to try and fit. I'll pick up some tips and throw something together for you.

It's hard to put model numbers in comments sadly I have to get creative to say the least. Anex # 395 - DB2S are available with crazy shipping from Japan and will be the best tell if a japan bit will fit into a chuck. Fujiya 52602 - 65 -bg are the shortest japan double ended ive found the slotted is very short.

I'll check it out. Unfortunately, this will require me to put together another Japan tool order......darn.

Thoes are on az usa I specifically picked quick ish ship items.

That was my thought when he pointed the play out, not sure how many folks know about JIS and the different length of the locking part of the shaft.

The 8v dewalt gyro will put a 3in deck screw into a 2x4 slowly but it has that kind of torque that's why it's completely different animal it's a solid 50 to 80 ilbs if I had to guess if not more a drill replacement more or less for less extensive tasks.

I'm really curious to see how this thing does on the practical tests.

It does sound like the 8v is a beast. Maybe down the road, we'll test some 8V stuff. If I do, I'll definitely be getting one.

I love mine. It's made for little work like fixing some tools or electronics. For handyman stuff you need drill and impact.

I'm hoping to show in the testing what jobs fit this 4V version so people can decide if it fits what they need it to do. It has some great features, but so far, it does list as the most expensive one we tested. For some people, price isn't everything, and I definitely understand that.

I'm getting the running joke vibes about the gloves.

@@TalkingHandsTools I don't mind the gloves. This also isn't a tool that I have much use for, but I admire your presentation style.

@Wordbiker thank you, that's very much appreciated.

I really like this model.

From all the comments, I feel like I have to keep wearing them.

That's a great idea. There's some future videos coming up that this will be appearing in. Maybe down the road, we can expand into various bits and bit holders. Next Wednesdays video was a lot of fun to make with this meter. Hopefully, it'll be an interesting one.

Lol, they are clean. Honest. They've recently been through the washing machine. They have that nice clean smell and all.

The chuck upgrade has made this drill amazing. The battery adapter is custom modified from an 18v version I bought off eBay.

I got it off Ebay. Look up the 18v version. That's what this is cut down to work with the 14v drill. If you make an adapter be sure to keep track of your M18 batteries charge so you don't accidentally damage it by discharging too much. There's no safety on this adapter.

There's occasionally talk of Stanley Black and Decker making their Craftsman screwdrivers here again. Time will tell.

They are a classic screwdriver. Did any of your handles get funky over time? I have one or two that got a little discolored. The rest are almost like new.

Great point! That's why I'm making these videos. Hopefully, I can help some people out seeing what these are all about.

It's in the works. I don't always shoot entire videos at once, so I try to have some continuity.

A few of these sets seem good without many, if any, proprietary tools in them. Wasted space seems to be a theme for most modern sets. I'm slowly picking up a few other pass thru style sets, and space saving isn't much of a theme on them.

It took a little extra and a learning curve editing, but I figured it would be worth it.

I like when companies do practical and functional upgrades to their products. This new model seems pretty solid. I really like the style locking collet/chuck it has. I also like it turns off when it hits the clutch.

I didn't even notice that when I looked at it!

I like how they made the 7mm.

This is an upgrade from Denali. It seems to have a hair trigger, which isn't something I favor. I was impressed with how much jam it had. That's been the fun part of this series. Had I listened to the internet, everyone swears the Denali is best hands down. It's definitely a good tool, but in our testing, so far, it isn't blowing away the competition as I hope we're showing in these videos.

I too got the Denali and was under impressed by the feel/quality. Yes i can buy 2 to 3 of them for the price i pay for others but it's too cheap for its own good. I'd rather use something I like especially day in and out regardless of overall value. This is betting on me and my comfort/needs over 40 bucks that's 2 dinners.

The Denali seems to be aimed toward the home gamer market. I see nothing wrong with that. There's a definite application for tools like it. I just don't see a trades level of quality in it. This Worx is getting closer. If they sorted the buttons being finicky, I think they would be a big contender. So far, from what we've done, videos on the Go3 would be in my work bag. The Worx would, however, be a good substitute or one for a second process type thing. (You know when you have 5 screwdrivers out each with a different tip) I call that efficiency.

The old Magnum Holeshooters were still common when I started in the trade. We called them "Wrist Twisters" similar name, same tragic ending if you're not paying attention. Ours were 1/2" chuck variable speed 850 rpm and a removable locking cord. I've got one here that we'll eventually be taking a look at. Corded tools are all but gone from the jobsite. Benders and threaders are really all that remain, but we've even had a cordless pony for years, and it's honestly amazing. We still rock with an old-school 300 machine at our fab area. I know they make a cordless variant, but we can't really justify it. Honestly, it's amazing when you look back at how far cordless tools have come. They used to be inconveniently convenient. Now you don't even think about grabbing one and drilling 20 holes for conduit of various sizes in a section of trough. It's pretty amazing if you really think about it. Both the motors and the batteries have come a long way. But I still have a soft spot for these old dinosaurs and still like to play around with them now and then.

I also see no issues with corded for stuff that's gonna be running alot like say table saw or miter saw and metal cutoff saw/angle grinders. There days are numbered but I have 45 minutes in two batteries for the angle grinder tops (also flexvolt). The first two are cordless but keep in mind they arnt running all the time. Fabric shops stay corded for a long time comming.

@MattHmm-rq6dn jobsites almost have to go cordless these days the time it takes to "safely" run a cord somewhere on a job site just about pays for cordless tools itself. While the new tools have advantages, stationary work is still more efficient corded, in my opinion. As soon as you need to be mobile at all Cordless takes over quick.