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@Eggnoodlesandketchup3
@Eggnoodlesandketchup3 13 күн бұрын
Is sam courtney a relative of mo courtney?
@BelfastManUtdTherapy
@BelfastManUtdTherapy Ай бұрын
For me David Irvine was the loyalist Gerry Adams. A thinker, strategic, calm, clear of thought, intelligent, knew his stuff, was a leader, a listener and aware of his own peoples sacrifices, suffering and not reactionary, also both were hairy of face and had a deep vocal tone!! peace and love
@JohnCambridge-c6t
@JohnCambridge-c6t 4 ай бұрын
The one loyalist who spoke any common sense
@LuckyRufey
@LuckyRufey 4 ай бұрын
David was a remarkable human being. A rare ability to see the other’s view… a compassionate and wise leader. RIP David 🇬🇧 from a Republican
@papaann4
@papaann4 4 ай бұрын
Great analysis.
@jimmccormack7507
@jimmccormack7507 10 ай бұрын
War is wrong but these prisoners on both sides had to become animals to get clever. Eventually the cease fire and the good Friday agreement. We all have to live on this island.
@thereverendchislet9566
@thereverendchislet9566 Жыл бұрын
David Ervine was a wonderful man.
@georgebrowne5935
@georgebrowne5935 Жыл бұрын
These Loyalist People were victims just like the Native Irish People. The British Colonialism tools done what it was designed to do, Plant a People and give them extra entitlements, and in turn destroy and weaken the Native People. The Unionist Leaders only had to spread fear, which in turn changed to hatred amongst the People. The English used this method across the World in their Empire day's. We must tell the Truth, to amend the future.
@Thetemplarsmonk
@Thetemplarsmonk Жыл бұрын
David Ervine very well spoken man
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to David Ervine all day, a man of common sense and about as articulate as they come. RIP.
@BelfastManUtdTherapy
@BelfastManUtdTherapy Ай бұрын
to me, he was the loyalist gerry adams. a leader, thinker, calm, understood both sides of the conflict, great communicator, intelligent, aware, strategic and genuinely wanted to convince people to do down the democracy lane. In addition, both were hairy of face and deep of vocal tone lol!
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 Ай бұрын
@@BelfastManUtdTherapy I have often thought of him as a Loyalist Gerry Adams, you are spot on there mate. Both were excellent communicators.
@BelfastManUtdTherapy
@BelfastManUtdTherapy Ай бұрын
@@stephensmith4480 was hoping there'd be a few documentaries on him but so far I can't find any
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 Ай бұрын
@@BelfastManUtdTherapy I know what you mean, he crops up on the odd video but I would love to see a full documentary about him. There is a Three part one about Gusty Spence, telling his life story, it's on Tape. I saw the first one but I can't seem to find the others anymore. I will have to have a proper look, the first one was really good.
@BelfastManUtdTherapy
@BelfastManUtdTherapy Ай бұрын
@@stephensmith4480just found out there was a show in the lyric theatre, ended last month, a one man, tribute to David Irvine. It revealed he took lessons in Irish too at one time! Belfastlive gave it top marks. To be honest I'm not much into arty farty one man lyric theatre stuff lol, but wish I'd known about it.
@TheNoSuchThingPodcast
@TheNoSuchThingPodcast Жыл бұрын
Ervine:”something bad happened to us as a people and we should be trying to figure out what that something was”. This guy is sadly missed and I wished he had been around longer to hear his voice- a Catholic
@TheNoSuchThingPodcast
@TheNoSuchThingPodcast Жыл бұрын
As a Catholic who grew up in Northern Ireland I found myself sitting beside Ervine at a BBC conference. My only regret is not shaking his hand
@bmca6892
@bmca6892 Жыл бұрын
David Ervin has to go down as one of the most humble men I've ever heard, as a Catholic I would sit up and listen , his voice was very gentle and again humble,I hope and bless the past is behind us,green and blue,blue and green need to stand together shoulder to shoulder for r we country because the UN/NATO/WEF/NWO wants to take over of what r fathers and before them had to fight for what they had,it's the so called British government had each other at each other throats played us like fools so don't let it happen again,peace one love 💚💙
@liamkeane9159
@liamkeane9159 Жыл бұрын
Ervine a man who had comom sense, from a republican
@cormacmacdonncha1052
@cormacmacdonncha1052 2 жыл бұрын
I never would have expected that the loyalist prisoners were such an articulate group. What a shame that the hunger strikes ever happened, and, as David Ervine rightly said, polarised the communities for an additional.20 years. He is sadly missed as the other contributors have said.
@billybrowne2439
@billybrowne2439 2 жыл бұрын
The English Elite since the Plantation of British Settlers in 1641 to Ireland, used People against People, while they creamed off the Wealth. When will ordinary People ever learn?? They are doing the same in Britain today, against the Unions. Cop on!!
@cheiftain732
@cheiftain732 2 жыл бұрын
RIP DAVID IRVINE . enemy but a honest one .
@barrylyons9296
@barrylyons9296 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 42 and from Meath. I have seen a good bit of this world. I've never had a pint with a Northern Protestant. That's fucked up.
@johnbhoy8813
@johnbhoy8813 2 жыл бұрын
David Ervine was the only decent loyalist politician that came from any of the unionist parties and was merely welcomed by many nationalists and some republicans. The fella spoke sence for all and not for a few.
@JakeMcCredieEire09
@JakeMcCredieEire09 2 жыл бұрын
Thank U very much for uploading this Documentary.
@paulritchie5868
@paulritchie5868 2 жыл бұрын
Think this guy was an intelligent and compassionate man,fought for his cause but realised that violence was not the way,may he rest in peace.
@roddymcniven8734
@roddymcniven8734 3 жыл бұрын
And we all sing along like before
@papadoc711
@papadoc711 3 жыл бұрын
David Ervine along with Gusty Spence from where they came and to what they would become, is highly respectable from a Republican background or point of view. Anyone from a republican background can understand why the likes of David got involved after in loyalist paramilitaries after the events of bloody Friday. although i do disagree with his views on the Dublin and Monaghan bombings.
@willleahy6958
@willleahy6958 3 жыл бұрын
'Criminalization set the cause of peace back by 20 years.' 'Nuff said.
@RebelofIreland
@RebelofIreland 3 жыл бұрын
Respect to David Ervine. Fantastic piece all round.
@dsd7004
@dsd7004 3 жыл бұрын
they should have joined the protest with republicans. they were political prisoners. probably not the hunger strike part as that was probably too extreme for that side, all round.
@freemindthinkerezrapound5071
@freemindthinkerezrapound5071 4 жыл бұрын
David Irvine was decades ahead of his time , a man i would have loved to have met
@Ferret999
@Ferret999 4 жыл бұрын
Respect regards david from an ex pow 👍
@jameslarkin8494
@jameslarkin8494 4 жыл бұрын
The loyalists wanted Political Status without the struggle,no to hunger strike,no to blanket protest. Republicans got them Status,not themselves.
@kelzuya
@kelzuya 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear this but the interviewer is asking the same question over and over and over...
@nashcars100
@nashcars100 4 жыл бұрын
i recon david you and martin could have stopped this mad ness years ag
@lorraineocallaghan7656
@lorraineocallaghan7656 5 жыл бұрын
A great man. Rip
@Whizzy-jx3qe
@Whizzy-jx3qe 5 жыл бұрын
David Ervine the only loyalist to quote Edward Carson about unionist alienation of the catholic minority and what that alienation eventually led to.
@raleighburner1589
@raleighburner1589 5 жыл бұрын
Always liked Dave Irvine a real gentleman even though he was a member of the uvf caught with explosives sentenced to 11 year's he was obviously a hard guy but he was willing to make changes rip to David ervine
@f.b508
@f.b508 5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to think that the prisoner's. Both loyalists and Republicans. Helped each other get messages and tabbacco. These men in this program are good men. That found themselves in extraordinary circumstances. On both sides of the divide
@Garngadblue1
@Garngadblue1 5 жыл бұрын
On the outside theyrthey're enemies but whilst in prison it was us against them (prisoners v screws) so a kind of an uneasy alliance is set up.
@michelob81
@michelob81 5 жыл бұрын
one of the best shows i've seen on youtube in a while. eye opening and the first time i've ever looked at loyalist prisoners as political. i always imagined they seen themselves as purely criminal but that could be down to me seeing clips of johnny adair describing himself as a terrorist and getting himself locked up for 16 years by talking to a cop with a tape recorder. from a nationalist standpoint we always see prison as the IRA. the struggle, but in any normal society most of the loyalists on here would never have set foot in a prison cell. glad i watched this
@GH169
@GH169 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Billy Wright ?
@joanneburns4343
@joanneburns4343 5 жыл бұрын
These men talk the truth and its a pity they wernt allowed to get together in 1981 and have support frm the outside....they could have caused a stop to the troubles....Loyalist and IRA talking together....
@bennyreed2900
@bennyreed2900 3 жыл бұрын
Joanne. My girl 👧, It was brits, who didn't want to stop.boming of London brought brits to ther senses. Then and only then that they gave a shite-
@kevinlynch9438
@kevinlynch9438 5 жыл бұрын
Oh that's handy.... "We didn't want to be seen to be backing up Republicans" awww how hard was it for the poor Loyalists??? Didn't get fed for 4 days?!?!? OMG!! How on earth did they survive that?? FOUR DAYS??? Fuck sake.. When I was young not eating for 4 days was called a long weekend !!! Pussies God Bless Bobby Sands MP & his 9 brave comrades .... And God Bless the UNDEFEATED P. IRA 🇮🇪✊🏻🇵🇸
@kevinlynch9438
@kevinlynch9438 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Republican & although David speaks honestly (for a Loyalist) I miss him about as much as his barber!!! 🇮🇪✊🏻🇵🇸
@the_red_barron1002
@the_red_barron1002 4 жыл бұрын
What a stupid thing to say. You probably an armchair Republican.
@gustavmarie
@gustavmarie 5 жыл бұрын
This mighy be some of the most fascinating info from the Troubles era.
@24zelock
@24zelock 5 жыл бұрын
you dont need to ask nothing of what happen to us as a people david , your unionist goverment and their discrimination and treatment as second class of the catholic comunity is the answer your looking for , i cant take it in that your that blind to this , still had respect for you all the same the only unionist who actuly cared about his comunity , the rest or only interested in drug dealing and draging their own children down
@johnroysingleton5873
@johnroysingleton5873 5 жыл бұрын
This fight is always going to be strong and how we show our fight is not to persuade nationalist terrorism, but remove their thoughts of one
@colinowens5587
@colinowens5587 6 жыл бұрын
All twats both sides religion my fuckin arse
@jahnaroth669
@jahnaroth669 6 жыл бұрын
Go to AOL to forty deuce then the 'attic' he references.
@jahnaroth669
@jahnaroth669 6 жыл бұрын
Who was his friend at 6116 hill road? A very quiet attic dweller was he. Not so quiet here however.
@jsmith2845
@jsmith2845 6 жыл бұрын
I see comments on here from a bunch of dickheads I'm a loyalist I seen a comment loyalist criminals what republicans were freedom fighters don't think so full of Karl marx assholes. Loyalist arnt welcome in Scotland nice words coming from a keyboard warrior prick who has never seen bombs shootings well maybe shootings he has seen some junkie shooting junk. I'm a loyalist and I'm proud of it . David Irvine plum smith gusty Spence twister davy Adams Gary mc Michael without these men peace was a dream so see all these republican garbage comments go back learn your history my people fought against the English not just Catholics four thousand protestant betrayed at wexford . Lest we forget
@francisboyle3271
@francisboyle3271 6 жыл бұрын
One of the better loyalists. a true and gentleman. very clever. and respectful. the world would be a better place with ppl like him in it. RIP.
@paddybyrne7648
@paddybyrne7648 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing but respect for Mr Ervine
@justinlaughlin9765
@justinlaughlin9765 6 жыл бұрын
This Man talked a lot of sense major loss to the peace process.. me coming from a Catholic background R.I.P
@Isszarya
@Isszarya 6 жыл бұрын
We need more David Ervine's today he seemed to be fair minded