I'm kinda confused by why the Archnecrotect is so high. His regeneration bonus sounds nice but it only lasts until the end of your turn, so it has absolutely no effect when the opponent charges or shoots at you, which is when you want it

Excellent and insightful presentation. You just saved me from spending way too much on a box that I was probably going to dislike.

I am BEGGING Games Workshop to balance O&G for at least one edition where Night Goblins arent the automatic include over everything else. Ive seen nothing but night gobbos on the table for O&G since like, 6E or something lol

oof, two units I really like are tier 4 lol

Opinion on Forest dragon ?

Nice

is this dude AI?

ushabti tier 4 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Must admit i watched your Orc and Goblin one and Agreed with alot of that (minus the Orc Boar Boys) But this video i have disagreed with alot. The Great Bow Ushabti make people worry and effects their deployment.... they wont put elite units in LoS of this unit. They function like artillery. Skeleton Chariots and Tomb Swarms should be higher...chariots are just decent units. Casket of Souls should be lower....so unreliable and for it to do anything it relies on you opponent to roll badly on leadership..which on the units it should be targeting is unlikely and it cant move. If feel this list has been based on very specific lists.

Top 5? That's only 4?

Love to see it!

Bonegrinder giant is far from the best

I like bore boys i make bigans and have them accompany my black ork war boss as a suto death star unit

Hmmm, I'm not convinced that these remains in play spells are the best as the opposing player gets a chance to dispel them at the start of his turn - they effectively get 2 dispel attempts before they have to move their units; once when it's cast and again at the start of their turn, on an easier roll. If the number of dispel attempts were limited, then these remain in play spells would go up in value IMO.

Goblin archers are significantly better than Night Goblin Archers point for point

Pretty sure the Nomadic Waaaaaaaaagh boar boys are just the best unit points can buy. Fast, 3+ armor save, relatively cheap, make em big uns, give em banner of butchery, and enjoy 2, strength 6 attacks per boy on the charge, plus the boars, impact hits, and choppas rule. Add in a boss to call a Waaaagh and play a wide unit and you should be able to chew through most things. Running a silly list that's almost entirely board boys, and its a lot of fun. Level 4 wizard with battle magic for a bit of utility as well

As an Empire player since 4th, I'd say the TOW book is the most difficult to win a game with the empire. Almost all units and characters are at least 20% overcosted for what they can achieve...some units even more. Statestroops, the so called "Backbone" of an combined arms empire list, are actually worse then bretonnian peasnst when takingcall special rules into account. They are also less versatile then bret peasantsxwith polearms and shield baked in their price of 5 pts/model. A comparable statestrooper is 7-8 points and will never get Horde, Shieldwall, or a weapon which can be used 2 ways...as for the knights, Brets have powerful vows..whatcdoes Empire knights have ? High cost and lower armour...😢..On to another iconic staple of the empire : the great cannon...got nerfed beyond recognition. Take bretonnian bombard for 25 points less..and the Bi-Handers ? Well, tbh, I cannot recall any edition in which they lived up to their lore in the game. But in TOW they are kind of worthless for their point costs...want better ones..look no further then, again, bretonnia's knights of the realm on foot...In a nutshell : if you want a challenge start TOW as a beginner with the weakest army ( next to skaven and dwarfes) ...the go ahead. Otherwise, I strongly suggest to have a look at the Bretonnian Exiles army...this is, for 90%, what the Empire should be...

Black Orcs are insanely good, if you mix them up right and manage to take out the right models in the right order. So you can always roll on 3+ armour, but still have lots of two-handed attacks. Good damage output, especially on the carge, very good armour saves, great morale, being able to make units go arounf impetious are all very good for the points. not chep, but tough and very good damage output. Only downside is that you have to take a black orc boss, but you normally do anyway and then you can make them core, that make them even better!

As a Woodelf I am going straight for the enemie wizard with my eagles or light cavalry to prevent him from countermagic. Then a wood will growth in front of the dragon and take his LoS. I will not fight a dragon, because it would be frustrating if he survives with 1 healthpoint. I prefer the damage race to get more points as the dragon will get. Units of 5 Dryads with a Nymph shine here to block a dragon for at least 2 rounds of combat

Stopped watching after the skeleton horsemen. You just look at their raw damage output. But not at the special rules. Heavy cav and horde means a static combat result of +2 add in a banner and only Spears on a unit of twelve (4 by 3) and for just 162 points you have a decent outnumbering, fear causing static combat result unit that can disrupt pretty well.

Quit helpful. I wish the stalkers could get some AP or some kind of boost to range to make them useful.

I like how it seems like he makes the point that combined arms tactics makes it an easier army to play somehow. Making use of your different unit's strengths is by far the hardest part of the game. But sure, charging in with only cav Bretonnians sure takes alot of brain power. Lol.

Orc & Goblin Tribes Arcane Journal is relay Fast and Trolyy !

I would argue dwarfs are unforgiving this edition due to the prevalence of cav, monsters, magic, and shooting being toned down. I think new players will quickly get frustrated by lack of maneuverability, ineffectual shooting, and being completely outclassed in the magic phase. If the new player wants to be competitive in tournaments dwarfs are not the answer.

Is this an AI voice? Sounds so precise. And still so weird. Leadbelcher? They shoot lead. Yhetee?

Dwarfs exist to get allied contingents in Empire

Great idea, thanks for doing this!

Nice Idea. Like it!

You can also run a smaller more elite army for orcs & goblins if you focus on black orcs and big un’s.

Ogre Kingdoms might be the best beginner army. Cheap to buy. Few models. Easy to paint. Simple rules. And models avalable in AOS, just need to re-base.

love it!

no tomb guard (and therefore no warsphinx or necroknights) hurts, but still, two lv4 wizards, both with +1 to cast from the casket and +3 from animus, is absolutely hideous casting power. even the lvl2 bsb can be casting at +6. that plus a necrosphinx in special, and higher rare allowance... very nice.

Love the lists man. Keep us informed on green skins, tomb kings and dwarfs forsure.

Happy to have subscribed to you on a previous video, I can't wait to see each and every new tier list.

I disagree a lot with this ranking. For example, Greatbow Ushabtis make solid counter to tanky, flying skirmishers like pegasus knights or gyrocopters. In my opinion they are one of the better options in special slots.

Poison do not work on mounted dragons really. Most poison stuff has no or low AP and those characters typically have AS of 2+ and ward and regen typically. That means warmachines are not that effective either as they need to wound on 3+ and that dragon has 2 or 3 5+ saves. As fpr tying them with challenges. Sadly it is 1 off and dragon with flight and good M can easily avoid it. As for monster Slayer and counter dragon. Sadly it is noit an option for some armies that lack both. Personally I play O&G and I do not have anything resembling good Monster Slayer combo or item and Wyvern is very much weaker dragon that typically cannot compete with full fleged dragons while still being suceptible to their weaknesses.

Itchy nuisance is indeed awesome.

please do more!

How do you feel about Prince Apophas?

It´s sad that TOW is turning into monsterhammer, Dragons & the like should only be available in 2000+ points, that way you could play 1999 points if you don't want a meta consisting of Dragons...

Like your content. Subscribing. Can't wait for you to do the other factions later on.

Only one challenge can be issued per combat. (Pg.210)

The best spell is the one in the right place at the right time

You rate greatbow ushabti pretty low, and fair enough as the total damage output goes way down, but great blade ushabti are very slow in combat and really not that tough, with only T4, 3w, heavy armor, and 6+ regen, it feels like most targets that you'd need that kind of output against are going to go first and drop a couple ushabti before they swing. Greatbow ushabti attack at a pretty incredible range, considering they have no penalties for moving or long range, and are fairly threatening to enemy war machines, which otherwise threaten your monsters. I find a couple units of 3 bowshabti are solid support for monster spamming TK lists for this reason, particularly in Mortuary Cult where you can take one of those units as core (plus a necrosphinx in special). All that said, I don't exactly dispute your overall tier 4 rating for ushabti in general. imo they're kind of boarderline between T4 and T3. I just don't think the greatbows rate any lower than the blades. They're just different tools. In contrast, I think you're maybe overestimating the regular archers a bit. 5+ to hit, S3, no ap, one damage... even if you invest a hero in them to get poison a reasonably sized unit of 20 is still only going to get 2-3 poisoned hits plus another 2-3 hits that need to roll to wound. Sure in theory you could take them larger then that, but as you increase the width the unit gets super unweildy pretty fast, and if you just increase the depth then you're paying double per shot for volley fire - and that's if you're able to volley fire in the first place - sometimes you just need to move. Heck, a big part of the bonus of arrows of asaph is that you ignore the penalty for doing so, relying on volley fire just puts that penalty back. I don't think regular tomb kings archers (or especially the skirmishers) are ~bad~ mind. Just not top tier. Maybe tier 3.

Great video with some nice points! Some spells in here I'm considering higher on my list now, even if they're not my top 5.

So your "Tier" list has NO "good" infantry. Remind us.. how much paste do you consume daily?

No Wind Blast and No Plague of Rust? Yeah this list sucks

Phantasmagoria: what happens if I'm in range of the effect but I don't move?

Trolls got a serious bump upwards with the new arcane journal. Re-rolling those regen saves and stupidity tests. Great weapons always beat an additional hand weapon if you're fighting anything with armor. A simple example - some knights (3+ armor) charge your 4 troll line, likely drop one of them, the remaining 3 attack: With great weapons they kill 2-3 With hand weapons they kill 1

Feel like big blocks of infantry either chaff or not can also sorta counter the dragon by either tying it up and it doesn't earn much points or can overcome it with static combat res if the dragon rolls poorly one round.