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@JohnnyCarterMusicOfficial
@JohnnyCarterMusicOfficial 20 күн бұрын
just build a platform that's twice the thickness with twice the amount of insulation brother
@TheLordcasio
@TheLordcasio 24 күн бұрын
Trussing mass loaded vinyl (MLV) around the kit to eliminate air born transmission and test again. Good stuff. Thank you for the information.
@michellombard7156
@michellombard7156 27 күн бұрын
Good evening, I encountered the same issue when I was living in appartement some years ago. To solve this, I had built the same kind of platform with 18mm wood medium, but instead foam below the wood platform I use various bicycle inner tubes not too much inflated ... The result was really great, no more vibration transiting to the concrete, so no more noise transmitted to any orher neighbour. I was playing drums on an air cushion ... So to sumarize, from the floor to the drum itself: 1/ rubber tiles from any sport shop (Decathlon, ...) as shown in the video, 2/ 4 to 8 bicycle inner tubes inflated (no too much, no too low) 3/ wood platform (does not have to be in contact with walls or floor when loaded with the drum and the drummer) 4/ a nice carpet for confort and beautiful aspect Following this way to do, you will be totally isolated from the floor and vibrations will not be anymore transmitted to it. Best regards
@iwodrummer
@iwodrummer Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, very informative and helpful. Just one question: I saw in another vid that a specific grade sylomer is needed depending of the weight to have the correct results. According to that, more weight or less weight won't work as desired. Did you check that to see if there are noticeable difference and/or better results?
@nelsontorres1694
@nelsontorres1694 Ай бұрын
Snare sounds fabulous.
@flyingchris81
@flyingchris81 2 ай бұрын
Very well made and informative video. But you forgot one very important thing. I was waiting for the actual sound of the you drumming. Because just from the footage it looks like you are a really good drummer😉… And I was hoping for a little piece of your music. Well done, brother!!!
@djordjefilipovic8740
@djordjefilipovic8740 2 ай бұрын
fantastic video, i have one advice maybe, sylomer is very precise material, you need to calculate how much of specific sylomer density u need in relation with weight u putting on platform, so if u put too much of sylomer its not gonna work, and if u put too little its also not gonna work
@SevenSixDrumCompany
@SevenSixDrumCompany 2 ай бұрын
Nice job! This is more of a "finish and assemble" build (done well), but I'll bet you have the skill set to someday build a shell...that would be an actual "from start to finish" build.
@WomBeatss
@WomBeatss 3 ай бұрын
Did you use only 4 of the 10x10cm Sylomer SR11 pads? If so, this was not enough as the max load per 10x10x2.5cm pad is 11kg. So that means the total max for 4 pads was only 44kg.
@julianmazzola
@julianmazzola 3 ай бұрын
From experience -- whether or not these will work depends on the situation. If your downstairs neighbors say that it "sounds like there's a subwoofer upstairs", then these will most likely work very effectively. If however they can hear everything including the pitter patter of the cymbals, isolating the floor won't solve the whole issue.
@jakubhorodecki7326
@jakubhorodecki7326 3 ай бұрын
Awesome test. Thanks!
@TheEdgeOfChairs
@TheEdgeOfChairs 3 ай бұрын
Anyone know where to get sylomer in the US?
@TheAngriestYam
@TheAngriestYam 3 ай бұрын
Physical Education🤘🏼the cymbal sounds great
@CatabductionsAnoym
@CatabductionsAnoym 4 ай бұрын
The uneven part of most snares is the snare bridge on the snare reso side. I almost sanded my snare before realizing that it was made that way.
@TheGarageRecordingSC
@TheGarageRecordingSC 4 ай бұрын
It sounded really cool when it was drilled and stacked!! Great tip, because I’ve got a shitty sounding 16 inch crash that I want to do something with. 👍🏻👍🏻
@clintc5416
@clintc5416 4 ай бұрын
Great job, man! The snare is beautiful and sounds great. I’ve been thinking about building a snare for several years now. Your video has inspired me to actually do it. Thanks again!
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. Good luck on your build!
@timothyquinn4919
@timothyquinn4919 5 ай бұрын
Rubber bass drums are very loud considering they are supposed to be. A more effective option would be to change the beater or use a different head.
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Mesh is far quiter.
@AudioArcturia
@AudioArcturia 5 ай бұрын
Bit late to the party, and I'm unsure if you ran a follow-up test, but i live in an old house made of masonry and timber, so the kick pedal travels through the floor and UP through the walls into the rooms ABOVE where I play - i live on the bottom floor. I play on an Alesis Nitro Max, and the pedal is a felt head on a rubber drum head, so it's PRETTY dense when it hits. I've started building a platform similar to this, but the inner workings have been dampened with foam and silicone bushings between things like fasteners and joints. I'll attempt to do something similar in an attempt to discover more adequate solutions to killing the sound of your platform.
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 4 ай бұрын
I'd highly recommend sylomer or equivalent product, rather than foam or tennis balls etc. To get maximum sound isolation you really have to calculate the load and use the corresponding engineered product.
@oshrizafrani
@oshrizafrani 5 ай бұрын
Good test, thanks! But can you describe how you build the platform? :)
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 4 ай бұрын
Yes I might do a video at some point in the future
@stevenbeatsgmail
@stevenbeatsgmail 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating. I live in a flat with pretty thin walls. I play on mesh pads only. The kick and the hi-hat pedal simply create too much noise. A hi-hat works well also when played with a mesh pad. I put a chopstick in my beater and stuck a Tennis faom ball on it, then even stuck a real mesh pad on the rubber pad of the original kick- so like that, even a beater is almost noiseless. Crashes and the ride can be played wonderfully on mesh pads (the feel on the ride is amazing, when the curves are set correctly). Really happy with the setup. Mesh only! Respect your neighbors!
@MattiaRaggiDrum
@MattiaRaggiDrum 5 ай бұрын
Thank to share this video! ❤ Fantastic job! Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
@malcolmporter8158
@malcolmporter8158 5 ай бұрын
I'm wanting to make a snare drum out of 2 plys of Brazilian Rosewood and center ply of Sitka Spruce. However, the price for just the wood alone would be a fortune. So... I guess my idea will stay in dream mode.😢
@ChurchOfGoodTimesMusic-mo3dr
@ChurchOfGoodTimesMusic-mo3dr 5 ай бұрын
What did you stack the modified cymbal on top of for the last demo....sounded best of them all.
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 5 ай бұрын
I agree! A sabian 14" evolution china
@randymarshall1267
@randymarshall1267 6 ай бұрын
Maybe next time you'll spray instead of that prehistoric method. Finally turned out ok though.
@Aaron-zh4kj
@Aaron-zh4kj 6 ай бұрын
I’d love to see how a sylomer riser compares to those tennis ball risers. I’ve built a tennis ball riser paired with those vibration isolation squares made for washing machines for my hammer weighted keyboard. However because my neighbor is terribly unreasonable and unpleasant, I don’t trust him to help me test if he hears something or not with them.
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 6 ай бұрын
Well if your neighbour used to complain and has stopped since you built the riser, then I'd say it worked :D. But I agree, would be interesting to do a side by side comparison.
@Aaron-zh4kj
@Aaron-zh4kj 6 ай бұрын
​@@nikgdrums I haven't played much this past year so I don't have to deal with him. Also, he complains when I do absolutely nothing at all too (I was sitting on my couch doing nothing one day, and he started yelling at me through the window). My strategy is pick a time in the middle of the day to test it next, so he'll look ridiculous if he calls the police on me again. I need to call my landlord sometime, but I need some help because of language barrier (I'm a native english speaker living in asia).
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 5 ай бұрын
@@Aaron-zh4kj Ah I see - not a great situation to be in. Just a reminder, a solution like this will never completely eliminate ALL the noise, but reduces it to an acceptable amount. If you have an unreasonable neighbour like you do then you can only do as much as possible to ensure you're not breaking any noise laws... or find a new place
@Aaron-zh4kj
@Aaron-zh4kj 5 ай бұрын
@@nikgdrums Breaking News! I'm moving into a new place where I have the 2nd and 3rd floor of a building, and another person living on the first floor! If I get an electric drum kit, build a tennis ball riser, put it all on the 3rd floor, do you think there's any chance of the 1st floor neighbor hearing me?
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 4 ай бұрын
@@Aaron-zh4kj Hi Aaron, that's exciting. Yes its still possible they could hear you because the sound could flank down the walls. You will have a much better result using an engineered isolation product like sylomer rather than tennis balls.
@melcastro5402
@melcastro5402 7 ай бұрын
How did you determine the tension rod length you needed? I’m interested in doing my own build
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 6 ай бұрын
Hey mate, for tension rod length, you take the height of the shell (6.5") minus the length of the lugs (say 4.5") divided by 2. (6.5-4.5) /2= 1". This is how much space there is either side of the lug to the top/bottom of the shell. I then usually add half an inch so you have enough thread on the tension rod, so I would use 1.5" tension rods.
@melcastro5402
@melcastro5402 7 ай бұрын
Wowwwww! Now I have to build one. Thanks man for all that knowledge
@FelipeJara
@FelipeJara 7 ай бұрын
Where did you buy the sylomer pads in Australia? - Cheers!
@styles3732
@styles3732 8 ай бұрын
Very well explained mate, well done. Mind if I copy?
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 8 ай бұрын
Of course not! Exactly what this video is intended for
@markmalonson7531
@markmalonson7531 8 ай бұрын
Sounds great
@quirkie33
@quirkie33 8 ай бұрын
Man oh man….thank you for doing this. It was exactly the information I need. Very interesting and particularly how it’s the low frequency sounds that are the offenders! Brilliant stuff and very helpful.
@userthlt2004
@userthlt2004 8 ай бұрын
Greetings! I am also concerned about this problem. I built the platform using three layers of plywood and two layers of Sylomer. The barrel is the loudest, despite the fact that it is made of Kevlar. There are two problems here - sound and vibration, which is also noticeable. Sylomer is just fighting vibration. There is an application for Android that can measure vibration. In any case, this topic is relevant and interesting for many. Make more videos, I’ll be happy to discuss and share my experience. It's a pity that you can't attach a photo here. Definitely like it!)
@eisieih7784
@eisieih7784 9 ай бұрын
Gracias por subir el video..... Genial...
@jamphotostudio
@jamphotostudio 10 ай бұрын
Nice job with the description of how to build this drum. I have a few tips if you don't mind. I painted high end cars and custom bikes for 30+ years. Try getting some DA sandpaper for sanding out the dirt nibs and imperfections. I would start with 800 and then go 1200, 1500, and finally 2000. You can go 3000 if you would like. Dry sanding with the DA is the That will make polishing a bit easier. Next, polishing with an orbital or DA (Dual Action) sander takes forever. You would be better of with a sander that spins like a grinder with no extra motion. You'll want something in the 1200-1750 RPM range. Grinders usually spin in the 3500 RPM range which will melt that finish right off, so RPMs is critical!! This will work much quicker. Always make sure the rotation of the pad is spinning "Off of the edge" and not into the edge, or you'll burn the edge and quite possible rip it from your hands and fling it across the room!! Also make sure you put you hair up so it doesn't get wound up in the polisher at 1750 RPMs. Saw that once and it was a bloody mess, and I don't mean "bloody" in the european sense of the word! LOL If you go to 2000-3000 grit when sanding, you won't need a "heavy cut" type of compound. It shouldn't have and grit to it. 3M products are the most common. Any bodyshop supply store will have all of these items in stock. You're drum looks and sounds amazing, as well as your playing!! Just built my first snare as well. It's a 6.5" Stave shell that I made from Sepele (Mahogany). I'll be making a lot ,more of them now!! Enjoy and thanks again for the video!!
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips mate! I do appreciate it and I like the idea of building a bit of a knowledge base here for people trying the same stuff. I must say finding knowledge on the internet for polishing was really difficult. The content I did find was American and being in Australia I couldn't find equivalent compounds, and the ones here didn't seem to have grit ratings on them. The store staff weren't super knowledgeable either. So it's valuable having input from a pro here, wish I knew this before I started! Your knowledge on the orbital sander certainly lines up too, I wasn't getting anywhere so quickly shifted to hand polishing which was more effective. Sounds like a cool project, are you making videos on your builds?
@djevlhelvete
@djevlhelvete 11 ай бұрын
What was the budget for this? How much is necessary?
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 10 ай бұрын
Probably added up to 650AUD. About 400 for the hardware, 150 for the shell, and 100 for skins, poly, brush etc.
@petespencer-smith5059
@petespencer-smith5059 11 ай бұрын
A solid effort
@postman9699
@postman9699 11 ай бұрын
Variety is great of course but it's not the tools, it's the person using the tools. I've recorded in studio and done live with nothing but SM57s. True pros get the job done with what they have. Take it from someone who's been on the planet for 7 decades and doing pro audio across 5 decades.
@kevinturvey8213
@kevinturvey8213 11 ай бұрын
so many variables before you would even get to the mic! drums/heads/cymbals/drummer/room. condenser in front of kit gave a very workable sound - nice job!
@Eurodrummer666
@Eurodrummer666 11 ай бұрын
Splendid build! It is pretty sounding. Congratulations.
@jason.martin
@jason.martin 11 ай бұрын
Great test! thanks for posting, have you tried the AT4040 in omni? it will probably add a lot more low end
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 11 ай бұрын
The at4040 is fixed in cardioid mode
@djentlover
@djentlover 11 ай бұрын
Small rooms absolutely are better to be treated well. You can improve the sound a whole lot if you hang panels above the drum kit, since most of the sound shoots up and down from the heads before spreading out. This will remove frequency cancelations and make the sound thicker, fuller and more natural. You can double the power of your panels by creating a gap between them and the walls by 5-10cm
@SethDeng
@SethDeng 11 ай бұрын
No proper drum recording is done with one mic (nowadays). First of all, what people will get is a mono audio, big no no. Yes you could possibly get away with one mic when the recording is heard from an iphone. Not to mention that the cymbals sound all over the place because you need decent volume of kick/snare. Just do not use it other than for a sketchy drum cover video.
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 11 ай бұрын
I agree with your points. I think recording with one mic distills a lot of important concepts (such as good kit, tasteful playing, good room), and forces you to work hard at them rather than the convenience that multi-mic recording offers.
@mosser959
@mosser959 11 ай бұрын
Great quality video, subscribed!
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 11 ай бұрын
Cheers bro
@edgeofsanity9111
@edgeofsanity9111 11 ай бұрын
I like that you use metric units so most ppl in the world will understand what you were doing
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums 11 ай бұрын
Only bc I live in Australia!
@edgeofsanity9111
@edgeofsanity9111 11 ай бұрын
@@nikgdrums well at least you live in a normal place lol Sadly those Americunts refuse to make the upgrade to metric units
@tosul
@tosul 11 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@ronitbhati-hp2hp
@ronitbhati-hp2hp Жыл бұрын
Great job dude.... epic
@clayfoster8234
@clayfoster8234 Жыл бұрын
Excellent point to check the holes against the actual lug. I’m a professional trim carpenter and when I’m attaching cabinet handles I always do that EVERY SINGLE TIME before drilling.
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!... as my high school design teacher always said "measure twice, cut once"
@marsdrums6298
@marsdrums6298 Жыл бұрын
Great job on getting that to look the way it does. It looks beautiful! I'm looking to do my own snare drum build and would love to use this technique. So without doing the corrective steps in the middle, first you would stain the shell, then what was the actual final step you used to polish it that worked? After you sanded you went to the polishing by hand. Sanding isn't necessary if you're not correcting dust marks and things of that nature, correct? So what I'm guessing, stain is step 1, polish with multi coats is step 2? Then drilling and mounting the hardware? Again, nice job on this drum!!!
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! so the steps would be: 1. Stain 2. Apply 5 coats of oil based polyurethane, with a light sanding in between coats (600 grit) 3. Sand the final coat with wet and dry going from 600 -> 1200 -> 2000, 4. Use a car polish with an equivalent grit of 3000 or above with a cotton cloth. Someone else commented a foam buffing disc would work (my mistake was using a microfibre disc which didn't work I'd say it still necessary to sand between coats just to e=remove any imperfections and so the new coat of poly adheres to the previous coat
@marsdrums6298
@marsdrums6298 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for that! I can't wait to give this a go myself.
@spmqqse5621
@spmqqse5621 Жыл бұрын
bubbles.... use a small torch to get rid of those...[dont burn nuthin].
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums Жыл бұрын
That's a good tip. There were also dust imperfections too, so sanding was necessary.
@spmqqse5621
@spmqqse5621 Жыл бұрын
@@nikgdrums also.... try 2 part clear apoxy resin....the type with a fast cure time, that will center objects , withing the containers that they are cast in.....[ vibrate and heat to remove bubbles].
@lugginstal5508
@lugginstal5508 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I like the raw sounds more. But that's off topic. What material are the panels?
@nikgdrums
@nikgdrums Жыл бұрын
Panels are made from fibreglass(600x1200x88 mm), with a flow resistivity of around 10k. 10k is approx the optimum for these types of panels. I used an online absorber calculator to work this out.