There is also a grey Biqu Cryogrip. For me that one handles large, warp-prone PLA prints much better then both frostbite plates.
@H2Dwoat6 күн бұрын
Hi, I’m assuming you looked at patenting your design, can you discuss the costs and difficulties with the patenting process?
@3DFarmers5 күн бұрын
As soon as you publish the product/idea it becomes very hard to patent. And before you publish it, it's difficult to estimate the future profit in order to invest 5-10k in letting an attorney write and file the first draft.
@H2Dwoat5 күн бұрын
@ hi, I can see that 5-10k would be prohibitive and I think I’ve heard a patent is regional you multiple patents might need to be applied for.
@Simon-L-B7 күн бұрын
What plate did you choose for the biqu? Cool? Did you try a few and found one better than the other? (If you set same temperature, just the z offset would be different )
@3DFarmers7 күн бұрын
I think all your answers are in the video ;)
@Simon-L-B7 күн бұрын
@@3DFarmers sorry I think I worded that badly, I meant in the slicer because there’s no option for the biqu plates so you have to choose a Bambu one you think is appropriate. I think I found the cool best for frostbite but the z offset might be a bit too close?
@3DFarmers7 күн бұрын
@@Simon-L-B Ah now I understand your question. So for the Biqu I have used the SuperTack settings as well with adjusted temperature to 35C. However, if you want the first layer to be closer to the plate, then you can chose the Textured PEI plate in the settings and reduce the temperature manually. This will give you a lower z.
@Simon-L-B7 күн бұрын
@ thanks 😄
@Simon-L-B7 күн бұрын
I would love to see some tests with large gridfinity bins, they are warp hell!
@3DFarmers7 күн бұрын
Yes, I can try to include it in the next build plate video!
@Simon-L-B7 күн бұрын
@ great, thanks so much! I think it will set you apart from almost all other plate videos too as they all tend to only test small objects in terms of build plate coverage and total material.
@DerrickBarra6 күн бұрын
@@3DFarmers Thank you, I stumbled onto your video after looking for solutions to prevent warp while retaining surface finish for large flat objects. Looking forward to the update video!
@iosgamingshorts2477 күн бұрын
Awesome video. So quick question- the products you sell are all of YOUR designs? I just wondered because I don’t know how to 3d model yet
@3DFarmers7 күн бұрын
Thank you! Yes all our products were designed by us. 3D design is a crucial skill if you want to start a 3D print business and want to be successful in the long-term. That's why we will teach it in our Patreon community. If you want to learn, then I would recommend you to join us :)
@iosgamingshorts2477 күн бұрын
@ thanks
@unspeakableoaf8 күн бұрын
I would say a plate that lets go easier when you flex it is a plus. I don't want to struggle with getting builds off the printer. If the printer has a heat bed that causes it to flex, the problem is the printer :)
@3DFarmers7 күн бұрын
In this case the textured PEI is your best bet.
@UnCoolDad9 күн бұрын
Tell us about your "automatic printing system" 👍
@3DFarmers9 күн бұрын
Coming very soon. Still finalising it for the public release.
@rickrose93079 күн бұрын
Good video, good luck on the new goal!
@3DFarmers9 күн бұрын
Thank you! The journey continues!
@short__videos__110 күн бұрын
Hey isch sehr inspirierend das mer mit guetem Englisch vo überall en guete KZbin Kanal mache chan. I welne Länder verchaufscheig dini produkt?
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
Ja es gaht tatsächtlich nöd schlecht. Aber es brucht recht vil vorbereitig zum Skript schribe. Mir verchaufet sehr international. Gröschteteils uf Amerika, dann EU. Langfristig wärs super uf jedem Kontinend e Farm zha.
@shizzm199010 күн бұрын
Leaving a comment for the algo, Ty mate and keep on going 🎉
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
Thanks! I hope the algo chooses people with such a positive attitude like you!
@sym713710 күн бұрын
Congrats. I have just started my 3D business and hope to be just as successful
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
You already overcame the biggest hurdle, now push on and stay curious and creative.
@svenrohner362310 күн бұрын
Thanks for the Update, great to see that it's going well. Wish you all the best for 2025!👍
@3DFarmers8 күн бұрын
Thanks Sven ;)
@anonim113310 күн бұрын
Why is it a short?!
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
What do you mean?
@anonim113310 күн бұрын
@@3DFarmersit must have been a bug. Right now its "normal". Today I've launched my yt on phone, and it video was on and shown as short.
@PrinityID10 күн бұрын
Nice, thank you for sharing!
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Lifeisnotshort10 күн бұрын
I believe your business and channel both will grow very big due to the kind of person you are best of luck
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words!
@JG-zw8jb10 күн бұрын
Keep up the great work! Love your videos!
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoy them.
@zxcvs10 күн бұрын
From my experience the SuperTack is the worst one in durability, the Smooth plate is better but that wasn't tested. And the SuperTack requires you to reduce the flow ratio on the first layer to .8 so there's no warping. A lot of people are having this issue, which you can only fix by enabling Developer Mode on Bambu Studio and setting it to .8 under quality > advanced.
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
Interesting input, we haven't printed many big parts yet, but I will keep that in mind.
@Sttreg10 күн бұрын
Damn. I always thought there would be no market in Switzerland. I should definitely give it a try
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
Yes, go for it. The future of 3D printing is bright no matter where you are. If I can make it work, you can as well!
@MRX-ff4vy10 күн бұрын
How do you see the current market getting almost flooded with people that want to 3D print for a profit? Whats your outlook on 2025 and what (in your opinion) are the most important things to do to stand out of the masses? e.g. is research, marketing, efficiency..? Great content, subscribed to you patreon in Dec :)
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
First of all, thank you and welcome onboard! Yes, with the rise of BambuLab printers, the entry into the 3D print business world has never been this easy. That's why the following skills are crucial to survival in the mid/long-term: 1. Learn CAD to design unique and innovative products. Subscriptions alone is not enough. 2. Increase automation, be it maintenance or print automation to lower cost of production. This way you can still make a profit where others cannot. 3. Listen to your customers. Customer support is important for either further improve your products or get a good review. Of course there are more points, but we can continue the discussion in Discord :).
@DWIT3D10 күн бұрын
Amazing... thank you for sharing. Phenomenal growth. How do you market yourself on Shopify? Or, do you recommend getting started on Etsy to make a name for yourself before going to Shopify?
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
I would start with Etsy to test your product first before doing all the work to setup Shopify and use ads or social media to drive traffic. Yes, the fees are high, but the traffic the platform can generate is a great test for your product.
@AshesNey110 күн бұрын
Great insights and thanks for the transparency!
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
Thanks, it's all about sharing the journey!
@unzensiert-ungeschnitten399010 күн бұрын
Do you ship all orders yourself ?
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
In the first year yes, but when it ramped up we outsourced fulfillment to a foundation for people with disabilities.
@AndreyDraganov10 күн бұрын
Good job! I want to start my 3D printing journey. Do you provide some kind of coaching?
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
That's exactly what we are doing through our Patreon. We are also planning to do some webinars this year.
@AndreyDraganov10 күн бұрын
@@3DFarmers count me in
@Redo3D10 күн бұрын
Nice results! I almost exactly match what you experienced but I did not sell on etsy, only DTC on my shopify store. I just recently got on amazon and hope to double my 2024 sales! I run a print farm that I have also automated, but using Qidi Q1 Pros and exclusively print in ABS. ABS is half the cost, and the prints use less material compared to PLA. Its just a much better material for consumer products. For 3 years I used PLA, and im glad i finally made the switch. PLA warps, has creep, and even internal pressure of the plastic after printing is enough force to cause dimmensional changes days or weeks after printing. the Q1 Pro is an amazing machine because im able to vent all of the fumes directly out of the machine to the outside, while still maintaining 60c chamber temp. The result are perfect ABS prints.
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing these valuable insights! Would be great to have you in our discord for some exchanges!
@Redo3D10 күн бұрын
@@3DFarmerswould love to join!
@thomashamery897010 күн бұрын
Very inspiring! Thanks for sharing. So all your stores are coffee-themed?
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
No, we have two different brands with tools for coffee and holders for bicycles. It's important to diversify.
@Ootrick3D8 күн бұрын
Where are your Etsy and shop links?
@3DFarmers8 күн бұрын
@@Ootrick3D Here you go: cremaloop.com and mountloop.com. If you add etsy.com to the end you get the stores on Etsy.
@R6clips65515 күн бұрын
Nice video
@3DFarmers15 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@ghosn3317 күн бұрын
What about the difference in warping for large prints?
@3DFarmers16 күн бұрын
We didn't do a quantitative measurement, but if we take the lateral adhesion test results, the Frostbite should come on top compared to the SuperTack. But again, if you run the SuperTack at 45C they should be comparable.
@Simon-L-B7 күн бұрын
I’ve found the supertack to be better for large warp prone prints
@sinansahin642318 күн бұрын
You should've included the glacier :'( I really need to know the surface finish comparaison between super tack and Glacier I need the matest finish possible on my prints first layer with a bit of texture and I don' t know wich one is the best for it.
@3DFarmers18 күн бұрын
The SuperTack has the mattest finish, but the Glacier is not much off.
@sinansahin642318 күн бұрын
@3DFarmers OK thank you very much, does the super tack has as much texture as the glacier or is it even?
@3DFarmers11 күн бұрын
@@sinansahin6423 No there is more texture on the SuperTack compared to the Glacier.
@danielthomas323620 күн бұрын
Can you use the Frostbite or SuperTack with no heat at all?
@3DFarmers20 күн бұрын
Yes, we tested also at 25C and it works great for normal prints.
@SirTools25 күн бұрын
Heads up, but last night my P1P didn't see the Glacier plate while doing auto bed level check and ran and skidded over the plate with a deep mark that makes it junk now. I had heard a few complaints about this and now I've seen it first hand. Apparently the detector might not see the plate and jam down into it.
@3DFarmers24 күн бұрын
That's unfortunate to hear! But thanks for letting me know about this issue.
@kylek2923 күн бұрын
You might want to hit up Biqu and see what they say, they do market that surface layer as being relatively tough.
@SirTools23 күн бұрын
@@kylek29 I can use the back side for now and hope that doesn't happen again...mmm...the new plate has the deep gouge now...ouch..
@MiteshParmar8 күн бұрын
I've recently got my plate from Ali express. Hope it doesn't do that.
@TechTarmac-e3c25 күн бұрын
What cad software are you using?
@3DFarmers25 күн бұрын
Fusion
@Verbosal25 күн бұрын
I see no reason to compare the Cool Plate as it is, sadly, discontinued... What a shame.
@3DFarmers25 күн бұрын
The cool plate was included in the test to see if the SuperTack is a worthy successor.
@balazslakatos9817Ай бұрын
make some minor, insignificant changes and start selling as Gen2 version. people generally stupid, they will believe Gen2 is better than Gen1.
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
Great idea!
@zgreenie0672Ай бұрын
How do you change the infill only in certain parts of the print?
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
You can do it using a modifier in Bambu Studio or Prusa Slicer.
@picasperoАй бұрын
Hi, I am looking into storting a side hustle, which might be 3D printing, I know CAD, but i can truly need some advice about the selling part, and what does well. Why do you not recommend Selling on eBay?
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
Join my Patreon and Discord where we support people like you to start off! To answer your question, eBay can be a good platform to start as well. It is comparable to Etsy as a platform I would say. www.patreon.com/3dfarmers
@totofreelanceАй бұрын
Chinese are more susceptible to make a knockoff copy of your item like the iphone, Samsung knockoff. So a Chinese copying a Chinese is natural.
@tazanteflight8670Ай бұрын
MY shopify experience was a nightmare. Their system is 100% automated, so when there was a problem, game over. They didnt respond to any communication. Oh, and good luck trying to get them to stop billing, when there is a problem. I had to get my bank to block them. Because, again, shopify didnt respond to any communication.
@justbob588Ай бұрын
You're saying in replies in the comments that you're using SEO and social media to drive traffic to the Shopify website, which is great. However, have you factored in the time cost associated with building the social media and SEO presence over time? Marketplaces bring traffic to you. They remove the time cost. And that time cost has a financial cost. Factor it in - I doubt Etsy will look as bad as you're making out here.
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
Good point. Of course there is time involved to build a Social Media presence, but this is a investment that stacks up for the future. While your brand get's more and more reach you can use it to drive more and more traffic. This is not the case with Marketplaces, they want to build their own reach and use your product to drive people to their platform. But yes, it's hard to factor in the time used for SEO and Social Media. But in our case it was worth it and this is the first month we had more revenue on Shopify than on Etsy with much less costs for ads.
@justbob588Ай бұрын
@@3DFarmers 100% agree, but when you do the explainer video going into this, make sure to highlight this. Many people just starting out in their own ventures might not realise this important point (it takes a lot of time to re-train your brain to think about time as money, even though many people know the "time is money" saying!) Congratulations on the result for this month - great end to 2024!
@justbob588Ай бұрын
(Also just subbed)
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
Yes, you are right. This point was not explained in this video. I will try to make this point more clear in a future video. I hope you are having a great finish of 2024 as well. Thanks for subscribing!
@lukaskantor2645Ай бұрын
I am a mechanical designer and have been on many early stage products, prototypes, etc. At some stage you have to get the product out and you have to be ahead of the game here. Everything is copied. It doesn't matter what country you live in. The US, China, everybody will copy your idea if it's great. It's part of the game. Simply, if someone copies you easily, you're not getting anything special. Choose your partners well.
@CopantherVRАй бұрын
Can you give me a functional nieche because I’m trying to start a business but I don’t have a product
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
Did you already fill out the form "10 Questions to find your Unfair Advantage"? It's here: www.patreon.com/posts/find-your-unfair-117708515?Link& That should give you already a hint in what direction to go.
@CopantherVRАй бұрын
We're is form
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
@@CopantherVR There is a pdf with the link.
@Stojce_Ай бұрын
it's not really hard to reverse engineer a pipe and a bracket tbh
@3DFarmers10 күн бұрын
It's also not hard to reinvent the wheel.
Ай бұрын
Are you also calculating that on Shopify you need to run ads to keep traffic coming to your shop?
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
That's a good question. We have on one side organic traffic that comes from Google SEO and if we launch new products we use instagram and newsletters to drive traffic. And yes, these things require time and money, but also have a higher conversion rate due to the loyalty of our long-term customers. And the great thing about it is that we are not completely dependend on Etsy anymore.
@dustyb8563Ай бұрын
Hi, first off this is a fantastic tool! Thank you! I print a lot of multicolor prints that fill the build plate. How would you use this spreadsheet to determine the cost? For example, if I’m printing a model that has a head and a body. Both of them are multicolor. I can fit 50 heads to a plate and 8 bodies to a plate. How would you go about setting up the spreadsheet? From the little bit I have played with it, I’m assuming I just use the product information tab (tab1) for multicolor plates. I bought the pro version of the spreadsheet for the mass production portion since I do print single color prints as well.
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
Thanks! That's a great point to be added to the next version. For multi color print I normally split the part into subparts with the different colors. However, if you have different batches of the sub-assemblies in the mass production tab, then the sheet needs to be modified (if the batches are in different numbers).
@DB3DPrinting2024Ай бұрын
@@3DFarmers A lot of my batch plates are not equal in number one plate to the next so this would be a useful addition for sure! I think I worked out how to price a plate in the print calculator tab. What im doing is, treating quantity as 1 plate (not one part), for total filament im using the batch plate filament total and for hours im doing the same. The math seems to be correct doing it this way.
@Red_Rubber_DuckАй бұрын
But where do you get your traffic from? Etsy is a traffic platform. Shopify is just your site, where are you getting customers from?
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
I will do a future video. We have instagram, pinterest, ads and are present in various fb groups.
@disp3rsionАй бұрын
Can you elaborate on how the post-processing cost is $4? The part is printed flat, top-side down, with no support or brim. At most, you would be going over the part with a blowtorch to eliminate mild stringing. If this takes 10 seconds per part, you're valuing your time at $1440 per hour? In reality, it takes 5 seconds, but im being generous
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
Sure, here is the breakdown: 1 min for removing the print and sort it 1 min for hot gun, imperfections and then putting it into a paper bag 2 min are for fulfillment, meaning folding a cardboard box, putting the part in, filling with buffer material , creating a label and taping the box. I like to have it a bit on the conservative site to have a bit of a buffer.
@disp3rsionАй бұрын
@3DFarmers Thanks. But I think the issue is you're rounding things up too much. It shouldn't take a whole minute to remove it from a build plate. It's more like 5 seconds. Heat gun is like 5 to 10 seconds. Folding cardboard box is 10 seconds. Printing label is 5 seconds. Total time is 30 seconds, which is 8x less than what you propose. You're still valuing your time at $480 per hour. I get that 1 min per task is a nice number to estimate, but it's putting a huge multiple on things. Keep in mind that you're doing things in batches, not one at a time, so it should be pretty fast per part. For example, 3 of those fit on a typical build plate. So removing all of them at a time should actually take 5/3 seconds.
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
@@disp3rsion Yes that's true and in the next version of the sheet it will be in more detail. Together with shipping costs, fix cost and so on. V2.0 will be quite a jump!
@MrsBagginАй бұрын
@@disp3rsion Just time yourself packing and shipping 10 orders and use your own number for your own calculation. Guesstimate for time are usually way way too low.
@Liiva1Ай бұрын
The fees get way worse when you factor in shipping costs as Etsy calculates fees based on your total order value. For example, if you sell your €12.76 item with €15 euro shipping cost (which is quite common when shipping from EU to US) the total fee amount will be €7.58 (assuming 15% offsite ads fee) which is a massive 59% of your listing price. So in the example given in this video you're losing quite some money on each sale. Did you opt out of offsite ads while you were still selling on Etsy or how did you deal with this?
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
Yes you are right, the transaction fee also applies to the shipping cost. We have added that amount to the actual shipping cost to make up for it. As for the offsite ads, we have long surpassed the 10'000 USD threshold yearly and cannot opt out. Hitting 120'000 usd in sales this year on etsy.
@300D_PrintingАй бұрын
I don’t get when people say this because you still are making profit and the people who are buying it won’t go to your Shopify they will just buy a different one on Etsy so overall you should still stay with Etsy because profit is profit.
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
Yes, profit is profit, but for us, it's also about long-term sustainability and protecting our designs.
@300D_PrintingАй бұрын
@ But wouldn’t profit boost sustainability and the models look easy enough for any one to make. They can just look at your Shopify listing instead.
@MakerAventurasАй бұрын
Making a dollar in a 3D printed product is not profit, it's almost breaking even. Not worth the time or effort printing, packing and shipping for just a dollar. A business is expensive to run, you need bigger margins or you'll go broke FAST
@300D_PrintingАй бұрын
@ it is if you are starting and need reviews and sales or if you are doing it large scale already and it is basically a free $1 here and there
@3D-PrinterlyАй бұрын
Totally understandable! Higher competition and higher fees. Their main thing is the traffic but it's a double-edged sword. I'm looking to start selling on Etsy as a beginner but will likely transition to another platform as I get more selling experience. Is that what you would recommend as a beginner?
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
Yes, exactly. That is normally the ideal strategy. However, it also depends on the type of products you want to offer. For very unique products that cater to a niche/community to which you have direct access it might be even better to start with your own store to not let copycats catch up too fast.
@3D-PrinterlyАй бұрын
@ good point, what would be the best ways to get traffic to that niche product from 0? Could be worth doing a video on sometime
@3DFarmersАй бұрын
Reddit, Facebook groups and forums would be a great start. If you are solving a problem of a community then share it with them. They would be eager to have a look at your product and maybe buy it.
@3D-PrinterlyАй бұрын
@@3DFarmers Sweet thanks for the tips! Very true, gotta put that ground work in and share the solution