What would be the better mouse for someone who has no preference as I am a beginner, I play only valorant at the moment, I keep searching for answers on which mouse to get between the V3 pro and Superlight 1/2 but I see so many differing opinions, for a beginner to mnk what would be best? Gpro superlight 2 is on sale right now
@RestlessGeckoReviewsСағат бұрын
I started on the G Pro mainly because it’s such a neutral mid sized shape that it allows you to work out your grip and what you want from your mouse. The QC on the GPX 2 can be hit and miss and I’ve heard about issues with the Viper V3 pro though the two I had were perfect. I’d recommend going to a place where you can try them or ask a friend if you can have a go. Alternatively order both on Amazon and return the one you don’t like. But i don’t think you can really go wrong with either, you’ll adjust to whatever you’re using just be sure to stick with it for a minimum of two weeks to get a good idea of how you perform. Benchmark yourself using aimlabs or kovaaks.
@UlfeneimerКүн бұрын
Hello, would you recommend this mouse for a pincer grip style? My fingers are slightly angled but not a complete claw because only my pinky and ring finger completely touch the mouse (I have a hand size if about 18x9). If not, are there other zowie mice you can recommend for me? Btw nice wooting keyboard :)
@RestlessGeckoReviewsКүн бұрын
Yeah it lends itself well to pretty much any claw grip and the hump is high enough if you like that palm contact but if you’re a fingertip hybrid user it’s low enough that it will stay out of the way. I think this or the FK2 would be perfectly fine for that grip. And thank you 😄
@Ulfeneimer15 сағат бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviewsi am having trouble choosing between the fk2, S2 and za13😬
@RestlessGeckoReviewsСағат бұрын
Depends on the size of your hands and grip style, S2 and FK2 are generally safe. ZA13 you’ll either love or hate depending on how much of a backhump you like. All great mice, just personal preference really.
@brianj1r1449 күн бұрын
Ty for the video . Thinking of moving to viper v3 cause my scroll wheel on my gpx has died like 3 times in a year
@SlickSniper314 күн бұрын
I had the Zowie S2 Divina when the model first launched back in.. maybe 2018? The shape was amazing for me in counterstrike and tac shooters. I really want to get the new s2-dw but I might wait for a few batches of production to get out incase they do any more updates to it.
@RestlessGeckoReviews14 күн бұрын
I don’t imagine there will be an update to the S2 any time soon. They’ve only just gone from CW to DW. I’d say you’re safe for a long term purchase at this point. I absolutely love it, great shape with solid Zowie quality.
@kartiloco992914 күн бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews What does CW and DW stand for in this case?
@RestlessGeckoReviews13 күн бұрын
It’s their wireless generation, probably going by sensor. So the D is the latest Gen. The EC series is being updated at the moment to DW from CW.
@voidvoid515116 күн бұрын
Do they wear off PTFE mousefeet?
@RestlessGeckoReviews16 күн бұрын
Every mousepad wears down PTFE feet but not in a severe way, no more than any other pad.
@hjttsu23 күн бұрын
If you don't know if the shape of the mouse will suit you, you can buy a super cheap mouse Ajazz aj099. And see if s2 is suitable for you. Almost identical in shape. 15$ is worth.
@RestlessGeckoReviews23 күн бұрын
Good shout!
@VicariousX21 күн бұрын
Same thing with the HK Gaming Naos M
@Ramildn24 күн бұрын
would you sell the pad?
@RestlessGeckoReviews23 күн бұрын
Probably not, although they are set to release 50x50 versions of their prior releases
@Ramildn23 күн бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews any improvements or just a bigger size? its called the samurai 1.5
@RestlessGeckoReviews23 күн бұрын
Literally just a larger version as far as I’m aware, I could be wrong.
@LucyScarlet-m5l26 күн бұрын
u know when they release the s1 dw?
@RestlessGeckoReviews26 күн бұрын
No idea but I’ll be keeping an eye out to get one
@joshortiz582Ай бұрын
Love the shape of the s2 and the viper v3 but which mouse do you prefer ?
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
I much prefer the S2, the Viper V3 was a bit awkward for my grip style and a bit too cumbersome. The S2 is just a different animal entirely, fits neatly in the hand, usual zowie quality, can’t beat it:
@fwabbleАй бұрын
Is the scroll wheel as abysmal as on the other Zowie mice?
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
It’s a pretty standard zowie scroll wheel tbf. Not light, not heavy, very tactile. Slightly lighter than my EC1-CW.
@Ima232Ай бұрын
you recommend buying s2-DW or gpx2 (currently i own a gpx for claw grip)
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
It depends on whether you prefer a slightly smaller mouse for claw. I think the S2 feels a bit more pointed in hand, a bit snappier to aim with.
@yasinarslan208Ай бұрын
What's your thoughts if you compare between Endgame gear XM2W 4K 10:41 and ZA13-DW?
@LeafaysАй бұрын
@@yasinarslan208 I am also curious about this if @RestlessGeckoReviews has any insight that would be appreciated. I also got another question for you myself . I came from an artisan hien ( using sp-04 right now) and am thinking about going back to an artisan. I can't decide if I want an Otsu Xsoft or a Zero mid , maybe soft but zero mid most likely. I also heard good things about the Type 99 mid and how that compares to a Zero xsoft without the hair issue which seemed really nice. If you still haven't got your hands on a type 99 I know JP Gaming still has a couple in XL in black. Cheers
@LeafaysАй бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews Hello, whenever you have time can you read our responses? Thanks!
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
I've not used either tbh, I've used the XM1 shape which is more of a wedge shape with a back hump but the ZA13 is way more aggressive from what I've seen. You're going to get a much more locked in feeling with a ZA13 and have less inner hand movement than you would with the XM1 just because of how high the hump is.
@HaloDaycareАй бұрын
is that
@HaloDaycareАй бұрын
is that thumpers bun dad?
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
You’re committed, I’ll give you that!
@HaloDaycareАй бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews No, I just know you have a big beautiful bun named thumps hopping around the house.
@wnsterАй бұрын
Have you been able to replicate this 'enveloping' grip style on Maya X or the GPX? I have the exact same grip and was wondering whether Maya X would be a good choice. My hand size is 18.5 / 8 centimeters
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
It works well on the GPX and Maya X. Perfectly comfortable. Maya X is a great mouse, great size and weight and the sides are comfortable for your pinky and ring finger extended.
@Callme_DenАй бұрын
Can i know ur hand size my hand is 19cm x 10 cm i doubt to get this 1 cause my hand size
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
19 x 11cm. Depending on your grip it can work.
@Callme_DenАй бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews okok next i will got this mouse cause maya is to small in my hand, another qusetion again sorry im new in high end mouse, can different brand dongle work with this mouse cause have same sensor PAW 3395, thanx before
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
They’re coded by brand and even model. Some like lamzu you can switch between mice with the 4k dongle whereas others won’t let you. Generally it’s not possible.
@vel0citybeastАй бұрын
Good review. Thank you ❤
@ronald0122Ай бұрын
dex or vv3 pro? 19x10 hands
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
I genuinely liked the dex, it was comfortable for me and we have similar hand size. It feels like an ergo with pointedness of an ambi. I would take that over the VV3 pro tbf.
@ronald0122Ай бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews what is your main?
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
Deathadder V3 smooth touch atm. Switching between that and GPX2.
@notexactlyrocketscienceАй бұрын
razer build quality has usually been inferior and their achilles heel. case in point: viper v2 pro mouse wheel plague. mine broke after 1.5 years. I'm really sceptical about the viper 3.
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
Viper v3 has been my most solid buy this year in terms of QC outside of vaxee and Zowie. I’ve just gone back to a DAV3 pro but the better coating version and they have even ironed out the issues that had with the wheel and creaking shell.
@leg3nd.Official2 ай бұрын
i have never used a premium mice before, i am thinking to upgrade to a premium mouse which one should i get viper v3 pro or gpx 2?
@RestlessGeckoReviewsАй бұрын
Depends on the size of your hands and your grip type, they’re both great. Can’t go wrong with either!
@Riival2 ай бұрын
Owned a G Pro wireless for a year and recently upgraded to a V2 pro because it was on sale but I don't like the shape because of the grip width and flare out making my ring finger ache, should I be grabbing a Superlight 2 for the familiar shape or is the Viper V3 worth trying? For reference I gripped the GPW with Claw/Palm hybrid and currently grip the Viper V2 with fingertip/claw hybrid
@RestlessGeckoReviews2 ай бұрын
If you like a lower hump but not as low as the V2 the XE is great. But otherwise the Superlight 2 is the status quo. The Dex is also worth a look, been using it this past week and it’s a great ergo that’s not too much like an ergo mouse.
@doctimokti69022 ай бұрын
I have fnatic focus 3 mousepad and playing valorant and cs2. If you compare focus 3 and Massimo Pro which one has more stopping power and is more plush?
@RestlessGeckoReviews2 ай бұрын
Focus 3 has more stopping power and is more plush.
@doctimokti69022 ай бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews Thank you
@eg85682 ай бұрын
Interesting that you mention that the hien has a more consistent x & y than the Otsu. I thought it was supposed to be the other way around
@01_Rogue2 ай бұрын
It is. Even according to artisan's website
@aimaim89092 ай бұрын
Great review
@joemomma99032 ай бұрын
I have small hands which one is better for me?
@RestlessGeckoReviews2 ай бұрын
GPX is a better shape for smaller hands.
@joemomma99032 ай бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews I use a palm grip btw idk I heard the viper is better specs wise
@RestlessGeckoReviews2 ай бұрын
New update to the GPX supposedly blows it out of the water but we’ll see what the test results are like. Maya x is a good shout, just testing it atm.
@Terra1012 ай бұрын
Cool thanks!
@haisesasaki68612 ай бұрын
still waiting for a reworked MMO Mouse
@TheIndieLegend2 ай бұрын
Dropping you a sub homie keep up the work!
@RestlessGeckoReviews2 ай бұрын
Thanks my dude! Very much appreciated
@souvikbiswas95422 ай бұрын
finely they trying to get back
@RestlessGeckoReviews2 ай бұрын
I know it’s been a minute! Big slow moving company aha
@dirtbikeguy79693 ай бұрын
I have a Hayate otsu xsoft and love it. I’ve been wanting to try a zero but unsure if it’ll be too slow for me. Also assuming you put no downward pressure on the mouse would the xsoft be faster than soft and mid? I play r6 with 33cm/360 hipfire
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
I would recommend the soft, it’s not actually that slow, it’s still a balanced pad. It’s like the definition of medium. The Otsu is a degree faster, not a speed pad, but the surface type is the main difference. The zero collects hairs like crazy but you’re less likely to stick to it if you get warm.
@dirtbikeguy79693 ай бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews really appreciate the insight! Everything I’ve found before this just said that the zero was slower and never said by how much, I’ll definitely give it a shot. And I wear a sleeve anyway so hopefully sticking won’t be much of an issue
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
It’ll be entirely usable for you and it’s not going to mess with your micro corrections by being boggy or muddy. It’s the best bang average mousepad for your money in terms of speed and control.
@ItsLukeDudeАй бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviewsImo the otsu feels a lot faster than the zero. Otsu feels like it's on ice. Very easy to start and glide. Otsus more of a speed pad and zeros more of a balanced/control pad. Quite a lot of difference
@meik.kl553 ай бұрын
Which IS faster ?
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
The Otsu, by a decent margin.
@meik.kl553 ай бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews okay
@yunusemreaydos3 ай бұрын
After the new firmware of Razer Viper v3 Pro, it has definitely become a good mouse for me. I was using gpx and gpx 2 - for 4 years
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
Weirdly I never had any of the LOD issues. I think it was just some units. Glad they’ve nailed it with the firmware though!
@Clyozera3 ай бұрын
so when you hold your mouse doae ur palm touch the hump of the mouse or nah?
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
Yeah, pretty much. Just locked in.
@improga3 ай бұрын
I was logitech fan for years but viper v3 pro did something to me
@prataman84383 ай бұрын
Is it just me or is the artisan zero thicker than the hayate otsu? I have both in soft and my zero seems to be quite a bit thicker might be just me tho idk 😅
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
Yeah it does tbf, just felt them now. The zero has a more spongy quality to it. Bounces back easier as well!
@prataman84383 ай бұрын
Haha yea i even put them side by side swear the zero is like 0.5mm thicker
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
Soft is definitely a relative term aha
@jyovji3 ай бұрын
Do you think you'll do a pulsar x2v2 mini review soon?
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
It's unlikely, next mouse review will be the Maya X Fnatic edition
@chimtonhatvutru3 ай бұрын
i live in uk as well, do u have to pay any tax after u got those pads?
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
No, anything under £170 and you’re okay. I had to pay it when I bought my wooting but these will definitely come under £170 aha.
@cringekid693 ай бұрын
I really like this initial impression, the comparassions made me had an ideia how it would feel. I have some collection of ergos but mixed feeling about them the left thumb always dig too much for me, makes them feel more thinner because that deep groove. Went with atk x1 since its almost half the price of razer offering atm. The DA v3 hyperspeed goes for 120 euros here, at this price point I can find the gpx 2 for that price and the shape is more versactil. Thank you for not following the generic youtube review going from what in box shape clicks weight etc. Most of the videos I could just look on website and save me time. Really appreciate the personal opinion and experience with it.
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
I think in terms of ergo’s the EC-2 is way better, they tried to do a safe smaller ergo but it doesn’t really work. You either go full ergo or complete ambi in my books. Thank you for the feedback! I prefer to get into the weeds on shapes as mice are so similar in a lot of ways, it’s only really the small details that can set them apart at times.
@Guanjyn3 ай бұрын
I’ve had two Superlight 2s in 6/7 months. Same issue with both. Wireless randomly cut out or switches DPI in the middle of gaming. Had Viper V3 Pro for about a month and so far so good. I like shape and battery life better on Superlight but everything else I like V3 better. I’ve always been a hater of Razer for their build quality but the quality of V3 Pro is incredible.
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
Yeah they really upped their QC game. Your Superlight 2 issues may be down to G Hub, I’d recommend downloading onboard memory manager and bypassing it.
@Guanjyn3 ай бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews Yeah I did try that, but I like to use macros for some games and you can't use them with OMM. Also I had the issues happen when GHUB was completely closed. GHUB is awful though. Some people think Synapse is worse but I hard disagree on that. Synapse looks uglier but actually functions.
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
There is still yet to be a manufacturer that can create a management software that doesn’t interfere with or slow down your PC 😂 New synapse is a lot better though!
@xianlux49473 ай бұрын
i use the Pulsar x2 Bruce lee edition, but i would like to try this but is the sidebuttons in the same lenght? like is it more forward or backwards when you compare them?
@RestlessGeckoReviews3 ай бұрын
I’ve only ever used the X2 mini, but a lot of the placement in relation to your thumb is going to be down to how you grip it anyway. For my 19x11 hands gripping it with a claw puts my thumbs touch point under the front side button.
@Classy494 ай бұрын
a comment for support
@karin58314 ай бұрын
Maybe the Logitech lady should have asked her secretary what a mouse is even for
@TheBorkka4 ай бұрын
I have superlight 1 and 2 and also recently got the viper v3 pro and it's fucking awsome. There were some problems with superlight 1 and 2 that are common for these. Everything got fixed with the viper v3 pro. I can name all the problems I had with superlight: first the double klick problem when trying to one tap in games you get a burst instead. Second the middle button and side buttons does not feel good. The scroll will sometimes go upp or down by itself. The superlight 2 has annoyingly high mouse click sound.
@RestlessGeckoReviews4 ай бұрын
The viper V3 pro is arguably the most perfect mouse in terms of quality razer have ever brought out.
@Hemestal4 ай бұрын
The what??? Sub MOUSE? Why? How? The whole idea is so idiotic and dystopian at the same time i will simply bot believe this is true.
@mikerzisu95084 ай бұрын
I mean to their credit, it is definitely a unique outside of the box idea. But it would never work with mice.
@RestlessGeckoReviews4 ай бұрын
It’s whether they’d do it to provide value or whether they’d do it for greed to extract money from those that would buy one mouse and be done. Also gives them an excuse not to produce new models or a wider variety of products.
@mikerzisu95084 ай бұрын
@RestlessGeckoReviews oh for sure there are absolutely financial incentives behind the idea. I am just glad it got squashed
@NicholasLatipi4 ай бұрын
that's more like outside the box and into the trash bin idea.
@mikerzisu95084 ай бұрын
@NicholasLatipi yeah. You can't really apply a subscription based service to a peripheral that people buy based on shape, size, weight and tech that is hardware based. And in the case of mice, the tech is constantly evolving.
@0023Pr4 ай бұрын
Sick trad tattoos man
@RestlessGeckoReviews4 ай бұрын
Thank you! My artist is awesome 😁
@sirlodick18964 ай бұрын
One of them probably think that charging us for each click on the mouse would be a good idea.
@Marbeary4 ай бұрын
I am done with Logitech. I went back to Razer the Orochi V2 is my prefer shape and the Bluetooth option was a big plus to switch devices it replaces my g305. I even bought Razer kiyo X it is a reliable webcam and was on sale.
@RestlessGeckoReviews4 ай бұрын
The Kiyo X is a great webcam, got it on a deep sale on Amazon too.
@Marbeary4 ай бұрын
@@RestlessGeckoReviews agree quality is improving for razer as of late with decent price
@dtester4 ай бұрын
Might have been a clever way to get some feedback without actually making it a thing...or the CEO just screwed up! Either way it is good that they got proper feedback. I do think people overacted a bit thinking this was actually an official product. Maybe because of KZbin reviewers and their click-bait titles. I call sheep abuse!
@RestlessGeckoReviews4 ай бұрын
What annoyed me was that they put out the bait, got the clicks, but never went out and corrected the record with a new video.
@moze_-4 ай бұрын
It's almost like all these subscriptions that absolutely no one but the dumbest of rich people would buy, are ridiculous and no one wants to spend money on it. They form an idea around a wealthy persons habits or ability and wonder why it never translates well to the mass consumer. They, are, detached.
@RestlessGeckoReviews4 ай бұрын
Their new product lines were a good indication that they’re completely off the pulse of what their audience wants. They’ll have to course correct otherwise they’re going to be older news than they already are.
@OutLanderUSN4 ай бұрын
I really think Logitech is focusing more on the productivity/office side than they are gaming at this point. The gaming segment is so far behind the competition that it isn't even funny, and the only reason they updated the 502 is because it was the best selling mouse for the better part of a decade. Other companies have come in with even better ideas and different designs that are starting to make even the 502 irrelevant. The gaming keyboards are a joke at this point. Unless they come up with a way of completely revolutionizing that, they'd be better off pulling out of the gaming space all together. They lost this segment years ago by not innovating along with the likes of Razer, Steelseries, and Corsair, not to mention the plethora of custom keyboards that have exploded onto the market in recent years.
@ZekeLawl4 ай бұрын
I was going to never buy a Logitech mouse again, thank god they turned this around. As a cash strapped gamer I’ve been using the G203 Lightsync for a good few years now and it’s been great and I’d recently been debating between Razers Orichi V2 or the G305 as an upgrade. I honestly think this came together in a board room between a ton of people just building off of a terrible idea, especially because corporate culture tends to have a lot of “yes” men and people who are scared to say how they really feel to company higher ups. The customer can always keep the company in check, it just takes enough people speaking out against it and refusing doing business. They saw the writing on the wall after announcing this horrendous idea 😭
@RestlessGeckoReviews4 ай бұрын
I definitely thinks it’s a mixture of yes men and them floating the idea to the customer to see what the reception was. They’d have destroyed the business if they embraced it!
@OutLanderUSN4 ай бұрын
I think they saw the writing on the wall before they announced it, with the general sentiment toward subscription services on the decline across the board. They just decided to go through with it anyway.