With all respect to Professor Meadows , I dont agree with the 7.5 billions humans population limit . as a fact earthe can host the double of that limit or more if all of the dear and unique professor Meadows paradigms are and will be applied!
@kopke300005 ай бұрын
Boah! Dass genau an DER Stelle der Ton "zufällig" ausfällt, halt ich keineswegs für einen Zufall. Was ist das hier? SED 2.0? Hervorragender Vortrag übrigens!
@andyking60516 ай бұрын
Totally typical Scientism or being religious about science that is being manipulated , a court of justice doesnt ask a scientist for the verdict , he asks a selection of ordinary people , and the jury is out , a global warming climate crisis is a lie , because good science always gets the nod from the public because - Its easily explained to the layman . Its logical . People can see its not indoctrination or a cult of faith , characterised by numerous highly paid zealots trying to baffle the public with " The Science " . It holds up to robust scrutiny and critique . Its observed that there are no vested interests .
@angelsplace10 ай бұрын
Are young adults actually paying for this crap? You can check out a first grade science reader at your local library.
@marcia891510 ай бұрын
Welcome to agenda 2030. "Great" ideas to fix the planet from Club of Rome. Do you want to eat bugs? Be awake.
@ExhumedPutrifact11 ай бұрын
Only now are we taking nuclear power seriously, after abandoning it since the 70s under Carter. Why didnt we move to nuclear? Why were `environmentalists' like John Kerry and Al Gore, major figures in the Club of Rome's limit to growth movement - why did they remove funding for research? So many other questions but to the energy and polution question, Meadows and his kind were always about depopulation over solutions.
@CowGry Жыл бұрын
CANADIANS please read and sign parliamentary petition e-4623 to remove us from UN,WEF etc
@CowGry Жыл бұрын
Shame on you pos
@1960vanessa Жыл бұрын
Satans little helper.
@marcia891510 ай бұрын
Exactly !!!
@h.m.b.1129 Жыл бұрын
Nur mi bildung, Mathe, Physik.. für Amazon
@gopinggop Жыл бұрын
start with yourself, you fascist filth
@carldori6172 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Professor Meadows - Well said sir. Our Plundered Planet by Fairfield Osborn, published in 1948 was read by academics and ignored by the public. In 1948 the population was around 2.5 Billion, in 1972 at the publication of Limits to Growth the population was just under 4 Billion, today it's passed 8 Billion. I'm an old man, I believe I'v lived during the golden age of mankind, my early thinking was influenced by Rachel Carson's Silent Spring and LTG as well as Osborn's publication. Unfortunately the response to concern about rising population, destruction of the biosphere and reaching a tipping point for a climate shift catastrophe was often " don't talk daft laddie " or god will provide. The path we're now on will in the words of Roger Waters - amuse ourselves to death.
@rightsfo4gets Жыл бұрын
I HAVE TO LAUGH ABOUT YOU PEOPLE. SORRY BUT ? WHAT DENNIS MEADOWS AND THE UNELECTED PEOPLE AT THE W.E.F. ( WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM) WANT TO DO IS THIS ? WE HAVE 8 BILLION PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET NOW. WE ARE CARBON BASE HUMANS AND WE EXPELL METHANE GAS. JUST LIKE COWS DO. WE ALSO EXPELL OUT CO-2 AS COWS DO. THIS DENNIS MEADOWS AND THE W.E.F. WANT TO ERADICATE 6 TO 7 BILLION PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET. CHECK IT OUT. THEY CALL IT SUSTAI ABILITY. MEANING ERADICATED. NOW IF THE W.E.F. AND THEIR FILTHY ELITISTS WOULD STOP ALL MANUFACTURES OF THIS WORLD. NO JETS, NO TRANPORTATION, AND NO WATER BOTTLES BEING MADE TODAY. I WOULD AGREE. BUT THIS NOT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ! THEY WANT FULL CONTROL OF YOUR LIVES. WHILE THEY CAN ROAM AROUND THE WORLD AND DO WHAT THEY WANT AND EAT. NO RESTRICTION FOR THEM. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE? HERE THE QUESTION ? IF JUST HALF THE POPULATION ON THIS BLUE MARBLE . WOULD JUST START PLANETING FRUIT TREES AND A BIG GARDENS TODAY. DO YOU REALLY THINK ANYBODY WOULD STARVE OR GO HUNGRY ? BUT YET FOR DECADES. THE MANUFACTUREA HAVE BEEN PUTTING POISONOUS FOODS ON OUR DINNER PLATE. CHECK OUT YOUR FOOD LABELS AND CHECK THE FANCY WORDS ON GOOGLE. THIS IS WHY TODAY PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE CANCERS, OBESITY. DIABETES, STROKES. HEART ATTACKS, ARTHRITIS AND ETC. DO YOUR HOME WORK PEOPLE. BEING IN THE MILITARY. WHAT DENNIS MEADOWS IS PRESENTING ? IS CALLED SCARED TACTICS. TO CONDITION YOU INTO BELIEVEING. NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T SEEN CHEM TRAILS COMING FROM JETS. KLAUS SCHWAB AND HIS RICH FRIENDS ARE NOT LOOKING TO HELP YOU. THEIR LOOKING TO HELP THEMSELVES. YOU WILL REMEMBER ME WRITING TO YOU ABOUT THIS. THANKS
@solarsamatyahoo.comsumthin2416 Жыл бұрын
Humans in 2030 is unlikely let alone 2100. Meadows has not reckoned on the exponential function of ecosphere collapse, apparently.
@dallasweaver4061 Жыл бұрын
Having read their "report" long ago, most of their extreme predictions were wrong. He does seem to now realize that there are only two resources relevant to humanity's future on this planet and they are energy and human creativity. His food prediction fell apart with increasing yields and now GMOs. His mineral predictions fell apart as shown by long-term inflation-adjusted price decreases and we still have not gone after the deep sea resources. "Peak oil" was claimed back in the 70's but has been postponed by half a century. A half a century hear and a half a century there add up over time. It is only politics that has prevented the rest of the world from fracking shale deposits for gas (the governments own the mineral rights and in the US only most of the mineral rights and the fracking is almost all private rights areas -- most governments are not rational). He doesn't even consider that we have a 600-year energy supply in depleted uranium stored above ground (no mining) that could be used in fast breeder reactors. If we ever figure out economic fusion humanity will have almost infinite growth potential. Having been into math modeling at the time, their model never had stability and their solution never would have worked. It was a very simple model, even for the time, but it gave them the answers they wanted. There was no ability in their model to ever accommodate our present population let alone the 3 billion more people on the way as the human population ages (not a birth rate issue, but a low death rate).
@universaltruth202511 ай бұрын
Great comment 👏 Dennis Meadows is a member of the WEF and probably a eugenist.
@schonersommer3775 Жыл бұрын
Ihm wurde zugehört.
@mrjonno Жыл бұрын
Resilience?
@mrjonno Жыл бұрын
..to clap and fold arms. Russia?
@mrjonno Жыл бұрын
37" on is significant as Russia and Trump war as political to address instability
@hubertvansteenhuyse413 Жыл бұрын
You'd expect more from academicians than figuring out that the earth is finite. The answer is what it always has been. The strong one lives and the weak one dies, this time on a global level. Politics need the problem and the solution, The Club of Rome forgot the solution.
@Orson2u Жыл бұрын
I guess you missed the fact that after the end of the bi-polar world of the Cold War, “the weak ones” hugely benefited from increasing health and lifespans, as well as the growing of life-giving staples and foodstuffs. Thus, hunger and famine is disappearing. The 2000s witnessed the most rapid decline in human poverty in history. And this benefit to the poorest has not stopped. Contrary to Meadows, economic growth is the humane hope that actually happens. In fact, we’ve passed peak farmland use. Contrary to Meadows, Jesse Ausebel at Rockefeller University has led in closely examining this question and re-wilding is supplanting agriculture for land use. Thus trend is accelerating, except for biofuels mania - a waste of natural resources. See “The Story of Human Progress: Why This is The Greatest Period in History” by Johan Norberg, kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYbFqKt7greIgNk SEE ALSO Marian Tupelo on our Age of “Superabundance” kzbin.info/www/bejne/gavLmYWAic6AaLs
@JohnDoe-oq4zs Жыл бұрын
Welcher Praktikant hat hier die Kameraführung übernommen? Das ist ja grausig! Man will doch die Folien sehen und nicht den Sprecher!
@doreendroste5318 Жыл бұрын
God is above everything. His will be done.
@eric144144 Жыл бұрын
The UN declared that Finland was the happiest country on earth according to a petit bourgeois survey. Finland is in fact an unhappy country with high rates of depression and alcoholism. The need for social services made it the happiest country to the UN because the survey questions were about social services.
@adolfocardoso9362 Жыл бұрын
You glorify a psychopath. A modern times Mr. Hitler with disgusting standpoints.
@masstruth2 жыл бұрын
Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD, is correct when he says there is no such thing as climate change. It is fake science.
@flyhi2773 Жыл бұрын
Sort of. The problem isnt carbon. That makes up 0.4% of the atmosphere and plants suffer at less than 0.3%. The oceans absorb the majority of carbon. However rising temperatures are real but largely because we have literally billions of machines operating every day creating heat. Plus even in Roman times much of Europe was forest as was much of the rest of the world. Today most are gone, replaced with fields open to the sun, roads, towns, cities and cities generate and at night radiate vast amounts of heat as do roads and if less so, so even do all these once forested fields. Really its a human population crisis but Governments cant say that, raises too many inconvenient questions but from what I can gather, Governments are planning their survival - its a perk of the job. They may even be planning on genocide or as a minimum planning to develop such microscopic control of the population a future Government even world Government has the option to engage in a gigantic genocide. You shouldnt put it past them. My expectation is that theyd start slow so few realise it, restrict movement and then when people finally start to wake up really unleash it. But Government will seek to survive.
@ggamos98312 жыл бұрын
The parasite class is LYING to you, fellow human beings. They bought the world and they want you off of their property as soon as possible. WAKE UP.
@lutzberthold96702 жыл бұрын
Welches PISA-Ass hat denn da die Kamera bedient?
@tinkerbell14622 жыл бұрын
Food production is now under pressure because government policies are destroying farmers ability to survive. This man is a charlatan.
@pavinova2 жыл бұрын
Incredible how his predictions about Germany's problem caused by its dependence on Russian energy supply came true just recently, along with his predictions of higher prices for food. I wish our political leaders would listen to him. I wish they would not have to fear being voted out of their office by taking the right decisions in order to ensure that at least a bit of the collapse ahead will be buffered. Every word of this talk is so precious and so true.....
@mrjonno2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@tobewithyouhoo2 жыл бұрын
If every couple has just one child we can reduce the human population from 8 billion to 2 billion in just two generations. Now what a feat this would be. It would be the fairest with no discrimination. Do read about doubling time. If it takes one hour to fill a bottle at what time will it be half full?
@karlstone60112 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most influential people of the 20th century, and what he's saying is wrong! Interesting Meadows begins by talking about habits - because at 4:52 he seemingly makes a habitual assumption when he talks about the need to change our USE of energy. This assumption stems from an anti-capitalist political bias that precedes the Limits to Growth hypothesis, such that the analysis suffers from confirmation bias. In fact, we need to change our SUPPLY of energy, and looking at the problem in these terms, there are no Limits to Growth. It's difficult to overstate how significant this mistake has been; the assumption of Limits to Growth is ubiquitous on both left and right; with the left talking about 'infinite growth on a finite planet' and demanding policies to reduce demand; the universal assumption underlying all green policy approaches is that sustainability requires sacrifice. The right believe this too; and consequently ignore the climate and ecological crisis because they don't want to 'pay more, have less, stop this and tax that' - and so actively campaign against environmental science. Limits to Growth is an extremely influential idea; but it's factually incorrect! In 1982, NASA/Sandia Labs demonstrated the viability of drawing energy directly from magma pockets in the earth's crust, and estimated the size of the US magma energy resource alone - at a minimum of 50,000 quadrillion btu. Global energy demand is a mere 600 quads. Worldwide, the magma energy available is effectively limitless. Given limitless clean energy to spend, there are no limits to growth. Magma energy, converted to base load electricity and clean burning hydrogen fuel, could supply all our energy needs carbon free, plus provide ample energy to desalinate water to irrigate land for agriculture and habitation, recycle all waste, and capture atmospheric carbon. In this way, it's possible to sustain economic growth, and increase prosperity for many more people - without costing the earth. Excluding this possibility for the past 50 years by assuming Limits to Growth may very well have killed humankind. I wonder how things might have been different had Greenpeace through to Extinction Rebellion demanded application of magma energy technology to balance capitalist prosperity and environmental sustainability; instead of a green communist dictatorship imposing poverty forever to save the world!
@christinearmington2 жыл бұрын
Something other than geothermal? Civilization, however fueled, is a heat engine. And each of us, civilized or not, is a heat engine.
@karlstone60112 жыл бұрын
@@christinearmington Your comment suggests you don't understand that global warming is caused by heat trapped in the atmosphere by carbon dioxide and other gasses. The earth radiates enormous quantities of heat energy all the time; and usually, that is not a problem - because usually, the heat dissipates into space. But with a carbon rich atmosphere, the heat is trapped in the atmosphere. Producing energy without producing carbon will allow heat to radiate into space.
@sammi221us2 жыл бұрын
I hope EVERYONE can see what they are dressing in the sweet words of "science" and congrats to all who ja bb ers who are accepting their sick ge no ci de voluntarily! These people are sick!!!
@gaswhole2 жыл бұрын
haha soiboi. You secretly scared?
@christinearmington2 жыл бұрын
Polio, smallpox, measles have all been brought low by the science of vaccination. This subject should never have been politicized. 3 million US citizens have died from Covid, and 300 per day still do.
@marcia891510 ай бұрын
Great words! People are very stupid indeed. Welcome.to agenda.2030...
@rnunezc.45752 жыл бұрын
Excellent ..thank u
@janklaas68852 жыл бұрын
32:30 35:10 40:40 📢 46:45 📢 50:25 📢📢 Nordhouse
@holdenparker1792 жыл бұрын
I fucking lold with his crossed arms trick. He literally dictated an audience what to do and how to cross their hands making them cross the hands not in the natural way. But he does not say why this is useful for them or at least for the audience. Pure manipulation of the crowd like in a fucking circus. The logic question would be for him is Why the fuck should I cross my hands in the way which is not comfortable for me. On the top of that crossing hands the other way is just have nothing to do with any benefits to me personally and to the people in audience. So the only reason you make me cross the hands you like is the manipulation. So fuck off you old clown and so is your pathetic book. I read it by the way. It literally starts with a phrase that you might be wrong with whole this concept. And you know what, 2022 is here and yeah your biblical Apocalypses is not showing. So I won’t cross the hands you told me. I would rather say fuck you a manipulator and a paid actor. Post scriptum In your book you mention that the previous projects the Rome club had was the Latin America in 1966. This is where you did your job. And guess what. Latin America is fucked in 2022. So why should we hire for such a huge project as world order if you have any success in your portfolio. Because this is how you trust companies, people, universities. You research their portfolios. You had no success before this fairy tale and you have nothing but money now.
@gaswhole2 жыл бұрын
hahaha look, an ostrich with a keyboard.
@holdenparker1792 жыл бұрын
@@gaswhole Excellent argumentation. The argumentation level of the growth limits believer. Yes, santa claus doesn’t exist your parents lied you, kid.
@gaswhole2 жыл бұрын
@@holdenparker179 arguing? me? I presented no argument. You are just a toy for entertainment. But im easily bored
@holdenparker1792 жыл бұрын
@@gaswhole Right, you presented no scientific arguments explaining why you believe in the god of growth limits. Screaming random propaganda prayers just shows you are nothing better than any religious schizophrenic. So let’s make it once again. Do you have any scientific evidence proving that you religion and god even exist. If it is so then could you please extrapolate in 10 sentences of thoughtful text. If no, then you are just another one sectarian of the Limits to growth church. This is just the same conversation as an atheist vs a religious caveman.
@sharond56832 жыл бұрын
Since 1972 there have been many inventions that make the fuels we have extraordinarily more efficient. These inventions have been quashed by the oil companies and other energy producers. So the poor man pays for the inefficient fuels and then is left to pay to fix the problem caused by the greedy. It seems to me that Meadows and the world leaders he surrounded himself with could have dealt with this in the past. In the follow video, MIT professor debunks the notion of MANMADE climate change: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqjZh5imnbl8frc
@holdenparker1792 жыл бұрын
Since 1972 none of his predictions have come true. Yet since 1972 noone in the audience asked him why would I cross my hands in the way you told me? Just because you want to manipulate audience? With no useful points why we should cross hands in an uncomfortable way? He never explained why they should cross the hands in an uncomfortable way. Yet nobody asked him why. Just a manipulation reason. All you need to know about this religion about the upcoming Apocalypse and a priest and fanatics who just crossing hands exactly how he tells them. No question, bo explanation, no science or data. Just a religion and fanatics
@gaswhole2 жыл бұрын
richard Lindzen is supported by the tobacco and fuel industries yet you believe him even though you accuse those industries of crushing fuel efficiency?
@gaswhole2 жыл бұрын
@@holdenparker179 hahahah george soros hiding under your bed?
@StressRUs2 жыл бұрын
"Personally, don't spend too much time solving climate change." I DO NOT AGREE. Stress R Us
@StressRUs2 жыл бұрын
"If you find that book, tell me." OK. "Stress R Us". 21:45
@JL-pc2eh2 жыл бұрын
Ich finde es sehr gut, das solche Veranstaltungen aufgezeichnet und hochgeladen werden. Ich muss allerdings auch anmerken, dass die Tonqualität äußerst schlecht ist.
@natashacastro74272 жыл бұрын
Felicito al Dr Meadows por ir a las universidades, son ellos los que pueden a través de la práctica de la resiliencia lograr un cambio en los patrones de consumo. Los gobernantes e instancias como la ONU sólo han retrasado las tomas de decisiones necesarias!
@JohnDoe-nd6rt2 жыл бұрын
WOW!! WHAT HE BEGINNING TO SAY AT 48:07 IS ironic as hell! Just look at what is going on in the United States now! This is one thing he was definitely wrong about.
@jurgen86032 жыл бұрын
Schade! Sehr unprofessionell gefilmt und der Tontechniker hatte wohl Schwierigkeiten! Ärgerlich!
@clemson19932 жыл бұрын
This guy and his followers were apparently cheering for Thanos in Infinity War and Endgame.
@StephenTheEngineer2 жыл бұрын
Completely wrong on climate change. Earth is cooling. Plants thrive and are equally nutriticous. Why do commercial greenhouses pump in CO2?
@Zelp7892 жыл бұрын
The data shows the earth is not cooling
@dickjohnson6969692 жыл бұрын
the data is false its cooling starting 2017- solar minimum cycle begins. It was warming 1970-2017 but sun spots started disappearing in 2017.
@Zelp7892 жыл бұрын
@@dickjohnson696969 There are tons of charts on the Web that say the opposite. Look up global temperature record.
@gaswhole2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me you have been smoking the plants being grown in those greenhouses you mentioned!
@telidrelimead2480 Жыл бұрын
Because you are deadly wrong in your predictions About nature and you .
@ClaytonEverett3 жыл бұрын
Can some one provide a link for the book mentioned about 7 mins before the end concerning the case study of Japan. Prof Meadows calls it Negative Population Growth Economics (I think) but nothing shows up in a google search with that title.
@mrjonno3 жыл бұрын
"...as the CO2 increases in the atmosphere the food quality of the plants goes down, their nutrition level..." This I did not know. There is nothing positive at all in a globalised neoliberal growth economy - indeed it is hugely negative. Why are we doing this?
@steffenpanning27762 жыл бұрын
If some country limits its growth, other countries will fill the void. the self-limiting country will suffer. the other countries will gain in the short term. -> the self-limiting country sets a bad example nobody wants to follow -> the social order in the self-limiting country will be heavily endangered. * therefore mankind must change things in many, ideally all countries at once so that nobody has an unfair disadvantage (unlikely) * or mankind will be forced to change by environmental pressure (very likely and very unpleasant)
@gaswhole2 жыл бұрын
@@steffenpanning2776 seems about right. Id like to emphasise that nature isn't out to kill anyone. Its just a complex system of feedback loops and one outcome of those will be an environment not suitable for humans in most places. Best case scenario humanity won't die but civilisation will collapse
@mrjonno2 жыл бұрын
@@gaswhole Revisited this lecture and I don't see a scenario of civilisation collapse. That this knowledge can be shared, discussed and understood is for civilisation change, hopefully for the better. Consider. 'In total, the number of people that own a smart and feature phone is 7.26 Billion, making up 91.00% of the world's population.' Nov 22 stats. I get that many will gossip, game, goose and do porn and yet the ability to collaborate is established. I'd suggest the more people are censored the more they will ask why and rebel. Iran, Russia, China, USA etc to circumvent security and 'whistle blow' as a feat in itself. E2EE for eg.
@gaswhole2 жыл бұрын
@@mrjonno establishments view censorship in at least 3 different ways 1) in the conventional sense, where it is overt and people are aware they are being censored 2) Preemptive censorship, where certain things are kept hidden. How successful this is will only be known based on studies. For example the chinese govt's control over knowledge of the tiananmen massacre. 3) (most successful) self censorship or social censorship where the establishment's role is successfully hidden
@mrjonno3 жыл бұрын
I get emotional each time I see this.
@Hgulix623 жыл бұрын
Say hi to future historians 👋
@amelsafta61683 жыл бұрын
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@mrjonno3 жыл бұрын
I would hope that we can ask how we do sustainability 'responsibly' - education is vital.