I love the Gorgon! I bought this Gorgon because of this review - really hoping it is more stable than the others. Go Chiefs!

its almost like... theyre completely different discs with different flight paths! woah

if you havent thrown a plsama mayhem- wait are you waiting for. thats my go to distance driver. i find it to be the closes thing to a destroyer. Bomber. keep up the content homie digging the channel

dooder! yes than k this money son!!!

That Shift is jammed full!

Enjoyable review ❤

I am really enjoying throwing my Watt right now. It just goes where I tell it to, holds any angle I put it on, and has a great glide. That being said I picked up a Tour of Terror Pixel, I just haven't thrown it yet.

Looks like a fun disc. Though I don't prefer deeper discs like the Pixel as throwers, I do putt with them. My throwers are Proxys and Mint Bullets. Proxy being the most accurate putter I have ever thrown and Bullet being the farthest flying.

Obviously Envy’s are great. But my other current favorite at the moment is a Lucid Emac Judge. Probably similar to that pixel. Feels a little deep. Very neutral to slightly understable out of the box. Great disc.

1st ☝🏼

I'd bet your Zenith has more dome. I had a white SE one that was flat as f, it flew dead straight with reliable fade.. but lost it. Bought 2 online, one came looking flat as f like my white one and one with dome. The domey one def has more turn.

I LOVE the Spin!!

That course kicks ass!!!

I was already really tempted by this. Think I'll get one.

Love this. I have one of all 4 plastics (Star, GStar, Pro, and this Proto Glow), and will be doing a comparison of all them them along side each other pretty quickly. For me, the Star version flies like the glow version you throw here, so I expect the glow is going to be much more overstable for me.

I love the paradox but you are right on that it really is just a utility disc. I love the hex and is my main mid for sure. I have been looking for something to replace my gator. I have been using my entropy but I want something a little faster. Any suggestions? Also, Go Hawks!

Great review. Your channel is becoming one of my favorites for disc golf content, keep it up!

thank you for saying it correctly!😂

Have you tried out the Viking Berzerker? It’s a pretty sweet flippy 10 speed.

spooky season is here !!

Dang, If I have that many great shots with a disc I usually bag it😊

Nice vid! I'm sure a halo star gorgon is next. Would be interested in seeing a comparison between Gorgon, Axiom Virus and the new Streamline Shift

You've got to snag a total eclipse Hex!

Which Cicada run would you say is closest to the flight numbers? Looking for something a touch more stable than my Rhythm. I bought a Rhythm because of your review. Love the content.

Tesla neutron is horrible it’s too overstable

Now I have learned how to maximize my quality of life at minimal cost. Now, the bag from luxrul in my hand is the best proof.

I feel like this disc is really overstable? Maybe I’m just week but i really like the trail for hyzer flips or my fission time lapse I’ll use a proton wave for super understable turn overs. Idk how he said this has more turn than the trail.

-0.5, 2? That flies more like a -2.5, 1 from what i can see. My crave is a -0.5, 1 and it does not come close to that much turn, even in a head wind. Usually, I feel like MVP flight numbers are usually pretty accurate, but the Zenith seems easy off. My Trail also flies more stable than the numbers say. Is my arm just made of Prosciutto and crackers? Or do you agree?

The Zenith I have is a meat hook and more stable than a Terra. Completely unusable for me :(

That zenith you got there is not normal. My zenith is more beefy than a brand new max weight destroyer. I throw about 400ft but my zenith never turns. Thrown flat it just holds it for a while and fades out hard, no turn.

I don’t bag one because I can never find them in person.

2:00 DEER

I wanna see a DOOMSDAY only bag in a video please. Only PDGA legal ones bc they do make I think 1 or 2 illegal discs

Looking at the side profile of a newest release of zenith and wow there's a lot more dome on it than earlier runs, almost looks more like a Trail now. After the Trail and Time Lapse it looks like MVP has been adding more dome to their other molds as well...I've been finding domier runs of Craves and Rhythms and some of their other distance drivers.

Big Zenith guy. Longer seasoned wrath for me.

What’s in the lead on the driver quest?

That turn is absolutely WICKED

I have two zenith's. One proton and one plasma. They fly like the one you're throwing. I'm at 5000 ft of elevation. I think the runs from the last year to two years and i think they have it dialed in.

Interesting to see all the different flights from the comments. I have 4 discs, 2 from release and 2 difference ones bought a little bit afterwards. All of them, fly like yours and not the overstable run. Excited to see the Eclipse Wave video!

My Zeniths flies nothing like yours. I only really get turn throwing into a headwind. I actually use it as my overstable driver. Trail has a lot more turn.

I love you channel!

Interesting. I bag a 168g pink stock stamp Zenith, got it in Dec 2023. Mine flies nothing like yours. I don't get turn. I can force a flex shot, but it's short lived and fights out into fade mode quickly. Nothing like my -2 | 2 Waves, which I can easily make turn over throws. My Zenith is my most OS distance driver in my bag, and handles headwinds no problem. I use the Wave and Trail for distance flight shaping.

I cant believe you got the Zenith to fly like that. I would not describe it as understable unless I am comparing it to my Photon which is much more OS then the numbers say. Are you throwing max weight? Maybe some slight anny releases?

I find the same with putter only rounds. Less to overthink with disc selection. I shoot pretty dang well on those compared to my full bag. I need to justify buying all these discs though 😂

MVP has so many good choices at that 9 speed slot. So many flight shapes to be had. But this one stays in the bag for me. I bag 2 of them. A plasma and a fission. The plasma is more stable and stiff, and the fission is... It's fizzy. Both are just great for what they do.

Zenith and Trace would be good options if you are looking at MVP's line. Or a good old fashioned Innova Wraith. I bag a Zenith in in both Neutron and Plasma. Plasma is slightly less stable.

bruh, how often do you go to grow and throw, haha im an hour away.

My setup is Fission Wave for turn over, Neutron Wave for the bomber, Fission Photon straight with little turn, Neutron Photon for the beef. Once I get a fission broken in then I work on another for a backup. Neutron doesn’t seem to beat in much.

I literally bought both of these discs on the same day about 2 weeks ago. I can’t really figure out the Gorgon yet, but the Trail is my new favorite disc and I immediately set personal distance records with it. I love the Trail

Long time Photon bagger here. IMO 11 speed is more than enough for 95% of us. Get a stack in different weight and plastic, from Neutron to Fission from 155g to 165g, and you cover a lot of slots with one mold. Add in a couple of Waves - they feel almost the same, but you can find some really domey ones and they have virtually zero fade just dead straight or turnover. I've had this setup for a while and loving it.