I don't have much issue with them, I operate 3. I actually own a dealership that works on these and as long as you operate them correctly they are a fine transmission! Parts are still easy enough to get.

@ thanks good to know I know there’s a lot out there about them being troublesome but I wondered if they were like the ford select o speed have had one for years with the right maintenance they work fine but a lot of people without any experience hate them

You have to stop to shift those gears they are mechanical

Factory decals right on the tractor recommend to start full throttle until it runs smoothly in cold temperatures.

For One thing cold Oil doesn’t flow well. Fergieman

Factory cold starting instructions are to start with full throttle on this one and slowly idle down when it runs smooth.

Ya that was a rough start trying to make the engine rev when it's not even firing on half the cylinders. I think wast the instructions are getting at is to give it some throttle for initial lightoff, then I would modulate the throttle just enough to keep the engine running, there is no need to be over 1000 rpm. Also, that fuel advance is reset by rpm, so your cancelling its effect once you over rev. I think these tractors had a foot throttle, I'd just use that for starting keeping it low and calm until oil pressure comes up and all the cylinders are on line.

Very good tractor, I love it so far. My first FWA. We also got a 3680 from the same place. That one needs a powershift rebuild but has a recently overhauled engine so I’m excited to get it back in the field as well!

Cannot beat an old Perkins! Take care of them and they’ll take care of you!

Thank you. Yes, that old discer is great. Plants really well too.

@@masseymannick Oh ya that was the birth of zero till and seeding in one pass and does not cost $600,000.00 to buy or a $100, 000 to rebearing and will still do the same job.

Thanks for the kind words! It is really rewarding to take something that would’ve ended up in the scrap metal pile and bring it back to life! We just picked up another 3680 today to go with this one.

Very nice! It is tough to go wrong with an old Massey like these. Very solid machines with a lot of nice features for the time!

I have used our family's 1962 MF50 with a 4 cyl Continental gas engine since 1976, when we bought our 93 acre farm. The ol' Massey came in the deal. I just bought a (year unknown) Massey Ferguson 165 with a 4 cylinder Perkins diesel. It looks to be in pretty good shape aside from some cosmetic stuff. The previous owner put a new hydraulic pump in it, but it leaked the fluid after they put the casing back together. Bad, or backward seals?? Anyway, they didn't even start it after that in fear of burning out a possibly empty hydraulic pump. They sold it to me for $1,500.as is. The almost new rear tires were worth that alone. I hauled it from their barn to a shop near me for investigation and repairs. Hopefully it will be back up and running soon.

@@masseymannick Thanks; been pleased with this one so far, Had to buy a few used implements & managed to drag a couple out from woods where they had been hidden in the brush for about 25 years, Despite the layer of mud & some rust, the auger & scrapper /leveler work well. I did have a local tractor shops give me a little scare when I went down to pick up a couple minor parts, they asked if mine was a Multi-Power? And although I was somewhat familiar with the term, seen it in a few ads while I was looking, I was not sure if mine was ? Nor did I have any real working knowledge of what that may have meant, The older owner, gave me a brief history of the multi power & how I’d better hope it’s not.. The other technician looked at a few photos I had taken & assured me that he didn’t believe mine was as it didn’t have any evidence of the operational lever or stickers being removed from where it would have been, and agreed the tractor appears to have the original factory paint, thus no alterations to hide if the multipower had been removed. Furthermore the older owner gave me an additional brief overview of where to look or what to look for to assure that it hadn’t had that option in the past & had been removed. Fortunately- as my research has shown, mine never had this option- They explained that although it was a good idea; Later it was plagued with issues & any dealer or anyone that knowledgeable about MAssey Fergusons would not be interested should I want to sell it in the future - We’ve had so so much rain, I haven’t been able to give this as much usage as I’d like but it’s been of tremendous help so far. Hade a blessed day!

@@darinbarfield8738 interesting, where I’m from I’ve never heard a single complaint about multi power. All of my older Massey’s but one have it and the feature gives no problems whatsoever. It’s a pretty simple feature with not a lot that can go wrong, and easy to rebuild. Engine braking only works in high range on those. If yours isn’t a multi power it will have engine breaking in all gears and I believe should be an 8 speed gearbox?

You mean that the Red and Flint Metallic Paint is lesser than Green ? Additionally the Massey would have far more Power. I had a 4640 and was anything but impressed with it’s Power or should l say the lack of it. The Deere’s Sound Guard Body topped the first series Massey by far.

Dealers supposed to check that before delivering it to you. Sounds like you've got a bad dealer.

Hard to do anything when its 40 below in the winter haha

Close! We are in Canada but this is the North American model. Not too many around. Wasn’t as popular as the 135.

@@masseymannick did you ever get someone to print a new nose piece?

@@arthor1212 Honestly I haven't got around to it. The tractor isn't 100% finished and then winter came so it's just been sitting for a while.

15.5 x 38

IDK, my W200 can jump my 275 pretty well... silly thing has a short.