Hahahah you lost me at the iphone/android argument. Android is objectively more user friendly and better for most applications. People get iphones because theyre trendy. Exactly like poe2 vs d4. Poe2 is objectively the better game and blizzard WISHES they could make something this good.

4:47 exactly! the reason im playing this game is the difficulty. but now that they changed dodge roll so you can just spam that shit and weapon swap blink when that doesnt go as planned, theres practically no challenge anymore. feels like the original poe campaign (the parts of it i got through before giving poe2 a shot) kind of a bummer. i want more challenge, but i can see how other players might feel different

dad gamer here, D4 disrespects your time like no other. Especially on release and the first couple of seasons. D3 on release and the first half-year was a warcrime. Yes the diablo games look great, and have some decent lore in the background, but they aren't built by gamers. They are built by a souless corporation that exploits its IPs delivering mediocre games, trying to squeeze as much money per click as possible, and their games WREAK of it. POE2 is early access, more than half the game is missing, and its still a better time investment than any diablo game.

6k hours in PoE1 casual dad gamer here, I like how complex and difficult PoE1 is and I disagree with you on difficulty part, besides I don't find PoE2 difficult at all, bosses die way too quick and characters are way overpowered with "cheap" gear ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ at the same time the endgame mapping is not for me, that 1 portal per map makes me dislike and not enjoy poe2, it becomes too tense and annoying and thats where I agree with you on the entertainment part of the game

I mean, whatever is your cup of tea. That's why everyone doesn't like D4 (mostly) because that game is not for gamers, it's for dads. Because everything you say is based on you not having time to spend, because by saying smooth experience you actually just mean easy game, which isn't bad, but you're painting a twisted picture. If it's not for you it's not for you. Real gamers want a game that is challanging and engaging, dad's want chill and chill is boring. Your comparison of iPhone and android is very upside down, IPhone is the worst phone in my personal opinion, it's full of useless shit that breaks your experience. Same is with diablo, I really hope it to be a good game, but when you see that Diablo2 has a better skill system than D4 it's just embarrassing, I got bored in less then 2 weeks and barely ever played again. D3 was way better then D4 in my opinion and D2 is the king, so in a way it is like an iPhone sells you same shit every year for twice the price 😂😂 I mean opinion wars are endless, but facts are facts and poe2 is gonna be a superior game, there is just no argument in that, diablo lost its identity years ago and for a good reason it receives so much hate, it's terrible, but still fun for some and I don't think that a bad thing

PoE was designed for hardcore ARPGers. GGG is making strides in PoE2 EA to appeal more to casual gamers, but its DNA will always remain hardcore. By contrast, D4 was clearly designed for casuals. Not making any moral judgment as to which game is better, just different strokes for different folks!

While I disagree on a lot of the points, I'll say this- PoE titles are not meant for everyone (the devs admit this). And that's fine, just as it's fine for it not to be someone's cup of tea. I will say that it's likely that this is as hard as PoE II will ever be, at least in the campaign, because it's a lot easier to dial things back than it is to ramp them up, from the developer's perspective. A few quick patches so far indicate that this is the approach GGG is taking. A few tips if you decide to get back into PoE II: 1) Try out different classes- I started sorceress and while it's a capable class and I love casters, it just didn't sit well with me. I got about halfway through Act 3 and decided to make a Monk- what a difference that has made in terms of my enjoyment of the game. Now i'm almost done with Act 2 Cruel. Also, most classes don't really come online, in terms of the power curve, until about level 40 or so- the more potent skill gems and ability to get deeper into the passive tree are mostly restricted until then. Sure, there can be strong characters before 40, but that's more of a gear thing or stumbling into a happy accident with the build. 2) I've used the trade feature once- it was fine, but I am not a fan of the system due to the number of steps involved. You have to bring up a webpage, find an item, DM the person through the web portal, join party, meet somewhere, trade, then finishing out the deal. I've found that meticulous looting hording that results in selling and disenchanting/salvaging for materials has been a reliable pathway to quality items for my own character. Also, every time you level the vendors get a new set of items- check these every time you level. You can even go back to prior acts. You'd be surprised what you can find, including cheap items to salvage for materials to craft up decent stuff you have sitting in your stash. 3) Find a guild or make one with a friend (or two) that play. Get a guild stash tab and just share loot. My friend and I just dump whatever the other person could use in guild stash tabs. There's no trade shenanigans or hoops to jump through. We just have a gentleman's agreement not to get greedy with one another's finds, share what we find, and if something is sitting there for too long we're free to salvage it and put the materials in the guild stash to supplement one of our crafting sessions if our individual stashes lack the materials.

42 year old 60-70 hr full-time job gamer here. I respect your opinion but I completely disagree with everything here. This game feels like a callback to gaming that requires you to use your brain. Your iPhone argument is peak tard dopamine fix ADHD. My wife is computer dumb and has never had a problem with Android phones. I see why you like d4. My dog could probably play it.

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Ppl dont hit lvl 100 in poe. Its quite rare atleast. Everyone gets "lvl 100" in d4. They are different animals you might say.

"I loved Diablo 3, barely played D2." Well in all seriousness, go back there. GGG's desire for New Blood notwithstanding, not everything is for everyone. If you're "meh" on D2 and think D4 is great, PoE of any flavor is Not For You. Also you're dead inside. Enjoy whatever uninspired drivel Blizzard cooks up for you next.

I get what you are saying and you have valid points from your perspective. I played Diablo 2, Titan Quest, Grim Dawn, Poe1, Torchlight 1 and 2. Diablo 4 doesn't cut it for me, it's a big disappointment. I finished the story with the sorcerer and after I tried playing the other classes and I stopped after lvl 25. The talent tress are bare bones, after you unlock your "ultimate" you have nothing else to look forward to. Then the shared open world, the quest design the so called "random generated dungeons" feel more akin to a an mmo like wow then an arpg like diablo and with the lack of real rogue like dungeon crawling the game has no replay value for me. While PoE2 redesigned some of it's over complicated stuff from PoE1 and kept the customization, the depth that I enjoy. D4 came out with 5 classes while Poe2 has started early access with 6 and will have 12 on launch. Any class can use any skill as long as they have required weapon equipped and while the talent tree seems intimidating, it's that big because it's the skill passive tree of all the classes combined on one page and every class has access to the page, it just differs the place you start building from.

Remember this is version 0.1 lol. Maybe you should make an follow up video after the 1.0 has relased.

Baldur's Gate 3 is the best game ever made. Prove me wrong.

If you don't want to interact, there's solo self found. The rest are legitimate points and I respect your opinion, although I think different.

"I want a smooth and nice experience out of the box" -> buys beta version of poe2 that still has a year of development to go before it releases, then complains it's not a smooth experience. As for the rest, I don't think I disagree with anything you said, most of it is an accurate description. However I have a pretty opposite value system, I mainly play games that are in some way hard/stressful/challenging, that's kind of the point for me, I don't play them to "relax". I mean I don't ever relax really, that's what sleep is for. POE2 is, for me, pretty chill, it certainly has balance issues in it's current beta state, but I've been enjoying it. I like every change they have made to the game vs poe1. It's more SSF friendly, the skills have a bunch of cool interactions, they cut out the high cost of respecing, the combat is still pretty smooth brain but at least there's *something* to it. From what I've heard I don't think D3 is a bad game, and it's probably a much better game for many people for many of the reasons you spelled out, and also why I'd likely hate it.

poe 2 will offer you a nice out the box eperience, in 1 year, when it really release, and is balanced. Fair critisism, but plz dont try to turn poe 2 into a casual game. Hardcore gamers also need games they can sink thousands of hours in. And for now, in the ARPG genre, poe is the only one. while casuals have dozens to choose from.

Iphone android example was last true 18 years ago

Path of Exile (and challenging games like it) should be approached iteratively for less experienced and more casual gamers. There's nothing wrong with starting over and incorporating what you've learned with each iteration. You'll find the game suddenly becomes a lot less challenging and a lot more interesting, too. I'm not saying to give up at the first sign of a difficult trial or deadly boss -- approach those iteratively as well. I'm saying that you should treat the game as a constant learning process that improves your gamer skills and your experiential knowledge of the game with each new attempt. Try it!

If you’re constantly making the conversation about yourself, it’s hard to take your feedback seriously. ARPG fans are here for the game, not to hear about your personal opinions unless they actually add value to the discussion. The game is still in development, and a lot of players are excited for the full release, which is around six months to a year away.

Man just go for what ever you enjoy. I played a witch and I was not happy so I picked Ranger and I love it. I played D1 and D2 than I saw D3 and I was like nah this is not Diablo. PoE1 was my Diablo 2.5 and now PoE2 is my Diablo 3.5. This is how I feel but If you like D3 & D4 just have fun how U Like it and don‘t let anybody tell you how you should have fun (as long as it is legal)

I wouldn't say that most of the things that you say in this video, weren't true, but some point you said, that the game feels slow, and you want to have faster build like in the end game? but then before that you said that you came from strategy games, how many strategy game do you start with everything in the game, for example, Starcraft you start with 4 Svc's and home base, not with 100 cap unit limit from the start. - PoE2 isn't for everyone for sure, but it is a theory crafter's dream, cause there is so much to taking in consideration, and all the mechanics can be tweaked. PoE2 may not be for casual players for sure. Another thing you said, was "I don't like interaction with other players" - well in D4 you more than often have to interact with other players for example Helltides or other overworld encounters, towns etc. In PoE2 you mainly have to interact with other players is in towns or with trading but you can always play solo self found. But we have saying in Finland "Mielelipiteet ovat kuin persereijät! - Jokaisella on omansa!" translated to Enlish "Opinions are like Gloryholes - Everyone have their own!"

Great video; Dad gamer here. I feel the same way.

Great video

Can you do a build video? Plz

I beat uber lilith last night and did get a spark. I used my sparks to craft my mythics from jeweler. The rune farming was a BIOTCH

Yeah, I blew my two on the blacksmith option and got something I wouldn't use. I still have not gotten another to break down. I've done dozens of bosses and not gotten another.

can i get mythic uniques without the new expansion?

lot of this is just bad advice. while T1 does access the full loot table. the amt of loot improves with torment lvl. So if andy/dury have the same 3-4% ish chance to drop a mythic unique. on T1 it'll be less amt of drops. and T4 if able to farm there. will average out to more mythics rather quickly just from the raw math while runes are heavily RNG trading them with people is super easy. use the trade websites, or even trade chat. often can direct swap runes. Or sell other runes to have the gold to outright buy them. decent quality ladder/reg uniques can also be sold for decent gold amts. and any max affix gear for common builds will sell for tons of gold. making crafting mythic uniques one of the better direct sources of uniques.

Kill the boss and HOPE fo the Mythic - this bs started since season 2 loool

I've gotten all of two this season. Without having billions in gold to trade for runes, there's absolutely nothing easy about it.

Ive grinded all the tormented bosses for hours and hours and never got one mythic. 😢😢

I've killed about 500 tormented bosses. Paragon 235 ish, but I still can't get a 6th Bac rune. And finally bought a Xol, was one short for crafting a mythic. It is the only way for my rng luck.

There is no easy way 😂

Thx! But let's be honest, the drop rates should be higher.

Thx! But let's be honest, the drop rates should be higher.

Keep up the good content mate :) Looking forward to more

Wow thanks for the waste of time

Hands down, Diablo 4 creators are the dumbest on KZbin 😂😂😂😂😂

appreciate the vid. all good suggestions.

What a stupid video.

This season has been broken regarding mythics. I had 4 in the first 6 days. BTW season 5 is all but over. Maybe make a first week video in the first week rather than week 6. Just a thought.

I'm playing a minion necro because I enjoy it and I'm not worried about endgame maxing. Got a mystic grandfather sword and Tyraels armor and just incorporated it into my build. Makes me pretty unkillable 😂

Hard to hear you over the game volume bud.