I like that you used a bronze chisel, keeping everything authentic
@WildBearFoot7 ай бұрын
How long did it take?
@centomille17 ай бұрын
@@WildBearFoot 12 hours
@victorzaidan64939 ай бұрын
nice
@renemulisak54012 жыл бұрын
Hello there, are you still on the other side? I am verry surprised, you could melt the metal that fast. We usualy heat our furnace and melt the bronze alloy (9:1 - copper:tin) for at least an hour. I wonder if is the constant stream of air is really that important. We use only one, but large hinge bellow. Could you tell me, please?
@centomille12 жыл бұрын
According to our experience, using two bellows allows to reach the temperature in less than 10 minutes. So yes, it is of primary importance
@renemulisak54012 жыл бұрын
@@centomille1 Thank you very much, this is key knolage for me. I have one another question, aren't you pumping from one to the other one? Or are there any "one way doors" to prevent this problem, if it's problem?
@centomille12 жыл бұрын
@@renemulisak5401 there is no valve, it is just the air coming from one bellow that goes into the tuyère
@franc859li2 жыл бұрын
Per lo stampo che materiali si possono usare oltre alla sabbia? Tipo il cemento va bene?
@stedissection3 жыл бұрын
Grazie,molto affascinante!!
@jukeboxhero16494 жыл бұрын
Italians do it better, qui no?
@stellarjay16944 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. I'm a bit late to the party but could someone make a guess as to whether the clay used in the mold is fired or not? It seems like unfired would be good enough for a one time mold. Also it doesn't have the same red tinge as the obviously fired crucible.
@17hmr2434 жыл бұрын
do you think this would be done at night or rainy days
@centomille14 жыл бұрын
Better waiting for the sun...
@annaricci65264 жыл бұрын
Sempre molto interessante!
@misterfantastikscienz3905 жыл бұрын
Ciao Claudio ,per favore mi puoi dire che materiale usi per fare lo stampo
@centomille15 жыл бұрын
Arenaria calcarea
@user-kg5hg4yo1g5 жыл бұрын
How much metal would you need for a socketed spearhead with 12% tin? How much tin would I put compared to copper? Is it okay to use regular water to cool? Also thanks for uploading!
@centomille15 жыл бұрын
Hello! It depends on the dimension of the spearhead. It might be 700-1000 g. So, in case of this weight it would be around 70-100 g of tin. Better cooling slowly and then a bit of hammering
@user-kg5hg4yo1g5 жыл бұрын
@@centomille1 Thank you, I appreciate it
@user-kg5hg4yo1g5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was looking for bronze age casting using a stone mold.
@metaldetectingengland5 жыл бұрын
a fantastic video ,guys ,,,,i dream to find and old bronze age axe ,,,with my metal detector one day ive had two fragments ,,,and two arrow heads allready ,,on a ploughed field here in England ,,,thanks for showing us this ,,new subscriber here too .
@centomille15 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Have good luck with your surveys!
@danielealeotti11945 жыл бұрын
Ho.visto.il video e avrei anche io da raccontare sul ndrangheta a modena e a Pavullo nel frignano vorrei lasciare scoop , conosco.i nomi dei leader del.ndrangheta a pavullo e a modena mi chiami al 3387616393 , aspetto un messaggio da lei cavazzuti claudio
@leonidasmiglioriniplaster6 жыл бұрын
you should make a video teaching to make this crucibles.
@Kurogane_6666 жыл бұрын
I'm just tired watching you guys lol, any chance for arrow videos?
@thanielxj116 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video.
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!u
@towardsfield60416 жыл бұрын
Howmuch time it needs to melt?
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
about 10 minutes, pure copper
@towardsfield60416 жыл бұрын
Tnq bro
@Lycurgus2246 жыл бұрын
Bellissimo, quanto rame hai usato? Quali sono le misure della spada? Scusa, sono americano, usando un traduttore italiano.
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
Hi Lycurgus224. The sword is about 78 cm long and is made out of around 2 kg of 10% tin bronze. If you have any other question do not hesitate to ask!
@Lycurgus2246 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Out of curiosity, how long were you and your friend pumping the 4 bag bellows before the copper/tin was sufficiently melted? The tubes connecting the bellows to the trench forge, what were they made out of? And it looks like you buried the top of the crucible in charcoal, were you worried it would contaminate the mixture?
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
@@Lycurgus224 Yes, we pumperd for around 15 minutes. The tubes are made out of ceramic, and yes, the crucible was completely covered withe charcoal. It does not contaminate the metal: on the contrary, it is better, as it reduce oxidation
@silvanoangelini63766 жыл бұрын
Ciao, Complimenti innanzitutto, potresti dirmi quale materiale hai usato per fare lo stampo? Ho provato a fare la sabbia da stampo ma o sbaglio le dosi o non so ma si sgretola sempre.
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
Silvano Angelini ciao! Sabbia fine calcarea bagnata
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
Silvano Angelini ciao! Sabbia fine calcarea bagnata
@silvanoangelini63766 жыл бұрын
Ciao, grazie Dell immediata risposta! Riproverò con quest altro tipo di sabbia!
@silvanoangelini63766 жыл бұрын
Sapresti indicarmi la marca, il costo e più o meno quanti sacchi ci vogliono per fare uno stampo come il tuo?
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
La sabbia è presa dal Po, presso un affioramento. Un sacco di qualche chilo è sufficiente, anche perché un po' ne va sempre persa. Più fine e pura è, meglio lavora.
@YEETMan-zh2ef6 жыл бұрын
nice work!😊
@bederico856 жыл бұрын
Innanzitutto complimenti per il video molto interessante! Nella mia zona ci sono letteralmente tonnellate di malachite che veniva estratta da pozzi medievali e sarei curioso di effettuare l intero processo di produzione in modo primitivo... sarebbe interessante un video su come costruire il soffietto.. oppure sarei curioso se costruendo una forgia a tiraggio naturale si possono raggiungere temperature sufficienti
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
Caro bedreico85, siamo molto interessati a fare questo tentativo insieme a te. Perché non ci contatti via mail, così possiamo trovare un modo per metterlo in atto insieme? puoi scrivere a [email protected]
@patriciaburroughs6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Just what I was hoping to find--stone molds!
@raybellows98517 жыл бұрын
That crucible is fantastic. Is it based on an artifact find?
@centomille17 жыл бұрын
Adigun Blackwater goo.gl/images/pBpC7s Some, similar to our replica, were actually found in Trentino, not so far to the sout from the iceman
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
Sgt Cortez not Vin Diesel Hi! If you use caolinitic clay -white in color- is fine. Other clays are less good over 800-900 degrees. Whatever clay add some grog/chamotte into that to make it more resistant (about 50% of the volume).
@leonidasmiglioriniplaster6 жыл бұрын
@@centomille1 where you find this clay.
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
@@leonidasmiglioriniplaster you can find it in a shop. Ask for a chaolinite clay. Very resistent
@killthecensors587 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. I cast a dagger this way and I always have had a problem getting my bronze into the liquid stage. I start with copper and mix in the tin so I need to heat at higher temperatures.
@centomille16 жыл бұрын
Hi Ro Bastard! Be careful about the copper. Sometimes it is not pure and it might have various percentages of Nickel, Zincum, etc. which can be difficult to melt properly with this kind of techniques. I would suggest to use a pure copper-tin alloy around 10% of tin. Best wishes for new castings
@bepisbepi7 жыл бұрын
Mitico!!!
@colejones20able7 жыл бұрын
What other kind of stone do you think would be useful as a alternative to soapstone
@centomille17 жыл бұрын
Hi Cole, this is sandstone but limestone could be good. Do not take river pebbles, because they are too hard. the best thing is to collect the stone from a proper outcrop
@micahbush5397 Жыл бұрын
@@Simonjose7258That's certainly best for unique intricate or unique pieces. On the other hand, stone molds make more sense if you're planning on a larger scale of production, like household tools or outfitting an army.
@cactuswren97717 жыл бұрын
fun and informative.......
@bobbertbobby39757 жыл бұрын
way too thin...wrong shape...no grooves...not hammered..maybe with alot of hammer working it could be suitible as Otzi's axe head but...prolly best to just start over.
@bobbertbobby39757 жыл бұрын
check the suggestions to the right. shawn woods has one up...how to make otzi the icemans copper axe or sumthin.
@Tombombadillo9996 жыл бұрын
Bobbert Bobby what about grinding? Or u realli thought blades and iron works come out automatically polished?
@angelus_solus5 жыл бұрын
I thought it looked wrong too. As bad of a casting as they ended up with, if they were to polish the imperfections out, they'd end up with nothing left. It is most certainly scrap.
@sobakabobaka17 жыл бұрын
чувак с мехами отжигает!
@flowingsyrupproductions88747 жыл бұрын
Looks like cooking at the beginning
@saiaddict8 жыл бұрын
awesome job ,looks like its gonna be a beautifal piece
@peterwikvist24338 жыл бұрын
What is that abrasive media that you use for the polishing?
@centomille18 жыл бұрын
coarse river pebble and coarse sand
@peterwikvist24338 жыл бұрын
Hi, are you using a bronze chisel to cut the stone?
@centomille18 жыл бұрын
Peter Wikvist. yes it is bronze 10% of tin
@peterwikvist24338 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your answer. Will the bronze chisel work on red sandstone as well?
@centomille18 жыл бұрын
Likely, it will work. I recommend sandstone must not be a river pebble (too hard).
@shonaoneill51518 жыл бұрын
Where did the fantastic idea for the crucibles come from? I love the idea that you can hold them with a rod that way ^^ superb video, I would like to perhaps share some ideas with you.
@shonaoneill51518 жыл бұрын
This is great, but why did you make it into a minute and a half video?, I would have loved to have seen your full process. Would you consider showing a video with more content?
@jimmywicks80348 жыл бұрын
what do you use for casting there? Like what sandy material is that?
@centomille18 жыл бұрын
hi! it is very fine calcareous sand
@shonaoneill51518 жыл бұрын
Claudio Cavazzuti That is a fine job, I was a bit disappointed that the video was a minute and a half long, it would have been much nicer to see the full process. I have subbed ^^
Would the casting be possible with just a foam model covered in sand?
@centomille19 жыл бұрын
+Deus0tiosus Never tried. The sand is quite soft, so maybe it could work.
@shonaoneill51518 жыл бұрын
Do not cast with polystyrene unless you want the possibility of gasious explosion, this is NOT aluminium! The pouring temperature is more than double of aluminium. If it didn't explode it would leave a nasty dirty specimen. If you are going to go to the trouble of making bronze then at least do it properly and make a carved wood blank to mold.
@RandyRandersonthefamous7 жыл бұрын
I don't think there would be risk of "explosion" or blowout. try it out and be safe
@xxrookiexx19 жыл бұрын
Its ashamed you quenched it, in copper alloys a quench further softens the material.
@centomille19 жыл бұрын
+xxrookiexx1 We perfectly know. We produce hundreds of these swords, those which will be refined are treated differently. These are just to show the casting process to the public and then we recycle them.
@Darfail8 жыл бұрын
hi claudio, are you saying that to make the best sword the bronze should just be left to cool on its own slowly?
@centomille18 жыл бұрын
Yes..slower is the cooling, better is the resistance of the material
@Darfail8 жыл бұрын
Claudio Cavazzuti Thanks! I was wondering because I saw a video where Neil Burridge quenches the mold then he hits the bronze piece and says "that's a very hard piece of bronze" which kind of confused me
@centomille18 жыл бұрын
If you mean the BBC video, I see. But we must always remind that many castings are only demonstrations for the public (open air museums, TV, etc.) . However, also in these cases, it is important to tell to the public that if you want to cast a functional sword, the cooling should be the slowest possible, in order to have the hardest material. It is also true that after the casting, we could harden the bronze through a series of heating and hammering. Hope to have answer to your doubts.
@Hashslingingslasher-9 жыл бұрын
Where the hell are they and what is going on
@MeAbroad20049 жыл бұрын
+Hashslingingslasher Read the description
@MeAbroad20049 жыл бұрын
+Hashslingingslasher Read the description
@Hashslingingslasher-9 жыл бұрын
+Taff pls
@MeAbroad20049 жыл бұрын
Sorry, i don´t speak jive
@Hashslingingslasher-9 жыл бұрын
Taff u jive turkey?
@akkev9079 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Thanks.
@archeoelisaMO8210 жыл бұрын
Complimenti! speriamo nello stesso successo per l'edizione 2014 (27-28 settembre)
@j.brittenclark765410 жыл бұрын
The crucibles you are using, either where did you get them or how did you make them? Thanks.
@bronzecraftsmen297010 жыл бұрын
handmade by ourselves. It's very easy...using clay. same material for tuyères
@j.brittenclark765410 жыл бұрын
Like regular pottery clay? If so, sweet!
@centomille110 жыл бұрын
Britten Clark It is kaolinitic clay, the most resistant one. You can also use illitic or montomorillonitic clays, which are more common but less resistant to heat. What really matters is to put a lot of chamotte in the clay (more or less 50% of the weight). If not, crucibles and tuyères will probably crack.
@jamesakeson207911 жыл бұрын
what material did you use for casting?
@centomille111 жыл бұрын
it's a fine calcareous sand from Po river...
@pussiestroker11 жыл бұрын
Claudio Cavazzuti What are those pellets at 1:25 that you started out burning?
@centomille110 жыл бұрын
pussiestroker Those pieces are tin-bronze (10% tin).