Talking About R.E.M's Chronic Town...
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What We Found At The Record Store...
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@jorgecubria
@jorgecubria 3 күн бұрын
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@OlafProt
@OlafProt 5 күн бұрын
This just makes me yearn for my (sold early 00s) vinyl collection. I had all the original uk Decca (mono and stereo - the inner sleeve was green or red) of the Stones. LP, EP, and 7". It still hurts. 😭
@statesandkingdoms
@statesandkingdoms 5 күн бұрын
😢😢😢
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 5 күн бұрын
@@statesandkingdoms not that I would but it all again, even if I was suddenly rich. They're all so overpriced. My copy of the Stones first was pretty crackly and grubby, but it added to mystery of it all. And (as was the thing back then - because vinyl wasn't treated like an artefact) my copy had someone's name and their 4-digit telephone no. on it! Obvs in case some good 1960s person should find it, it having been left on the bus home after a night at a friends house. That for me is the joy of vinyl, like buying a second hand book that's been inscribed.
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 5 күн бұрын
Sean I remember you saying in an early video "this is not a vinyl channel" 😂😂
@statesandkingdoms
@statesandkingdoms 5 күн бұрын
Our favorite laser discs are next lol
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 5 күн бұрын
@@statesandkingdoms boom 💥 you're sharp as a tack today! Lol
@azapro911
@azapro911 7 күн бұрын
The Capitol Rubber Soul is great if you like a nice period piece folk rock album and not so great if you like the Beatles. Parlophone RS is where they began the giant studio leap forward, breaking ground, not following Dylan and other folkies.
@rossmiller9326
@rossmiller9326 9 күн бұрын
The best place to start with the Stones is a good compilation like Hot Rocks. This will show you the full range of their classic sound. Then start exploring their deep cuts from the studio albums from the beginning.
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 9 күн бұрын
I first got this on 5 track cd. My boss at a record store said Nick, go buy it. I'd just come out of a few years of thrash metal and indie noise, so I wasn't expecting it be, so heavy. It is exactly what they say it is. Extraordinary. A stone cold classic. And at that moment they truly were the greatest known live band in the world. I saw them in London in a cold Jan 2002, and they jammed into things like Shakin All Over and the hairs on my neck stood up. My mum came With me (she's now 80) and we were both deaf the day after. Worth it.
@chrismcgovern1647
@chrismcgovern1647 9 күн бұрын
LUV EOMS, it is my favorite Stones 70s LP
@chrismcgovern1647
@chrismcgovern1647 9 күн бұрын
BTW, sorry this is off topic but luvving the look of your legs in this video, Jenna!
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 9 күн бұрын
I started listening to the Stones via huge 70s headphones with a curly lead and the wonder that is/was Rolled Gold on cassette. I could not believe the sound of that guitar at the beginning of It's All Over Now. I couldn't believe that it happened in the 60s, this was the very early 80s, we had Depeche mode ffs. Then I suddenly developed a Stones obsession when Steel Wheels came out. God I love that album (theres a separate discussion) But its breezy and bright and relaxed and full of rhythm, it felt like 'phew they made it through'. Then Bill left and for me it was all over, he was a seriously overlooked component to 'the sound'. But Jenna you do not suck lmao. I bought this first (with my own money) too. A cheap 80s CBS vinyl reissue & I did not like it. I think, like so many classics from that golden era, this album is held in irrational reverence. When it got a remaster about 15 years ago I reviewed it quite scathingly on Amazon and the BILE I got back, close to death threats, (when you could reply to Amazon reviews) for people standing up for those multi-millionaires was unbelievable. I can't believe it's 35 years old. But it's that old Genesis logic that the albums we hear aged 13-23 are the ones that stick. Its good advice to start with the Stones at the first album - then Exile wouldn't seem as unfathomable and/or out of place. Its great. But it ain't the greatest.
@crichards1986
@crichards1986 9 күн бұрын
Definitely not the album to start with. Exile isn't very accessible, and I remember not liking it upon first hearing it. But something kept calling me back to it. I would try it again and it wouldn't click. One day, a year or two later, I came across an Exile music book that contained the lyrics and I sat down and really focused on the music while following along with the lyrics and it was like I was handed the keys to the kingdom and was let inside. Once you break through that wall, Exile is a world unto itself and a magnificent piece of art. But it's not easy. It takes multiple listens and for the unfortunate few, they never get inside. Those are the people who call it "overrated" or try to make it a single record as they stare through the windows watching those of us who got in with drinks in hand, smiling and dancing, loud music playing. The world of Exile.
@garybrowser6885
@garybrowser6885 10 күн бұрын
Hey Jenna - my first Stones album was 'Satanic Majesties' cos I liked the cover !! LOL - so think my first cut choice was worse (however this album is since re-appraised). Should have started with 'Hot Rocks' !
@kiernanthomas6006
@kiernanthomas6006 10 күн бұрын
You kids have a strong Long Island vibe. Saw the REMmurs back in 1984. Chronic Town MurMur and Reckoning were rocking my world then and now.
@tomcimino221
@tomcimino221 10 күн бұрын
Just found your reviews love your conversation. I grew up listening to Dan through my parents who were huge fans . This album just to give you a backstory Fagen had been the driving force keeping the group going Becker had become a recluse in Hawaii with his wife who had died from a overdose. Fagan went to his home to pull him out of his daze of depression. The recording was a drivin labor of perfection that they demanded a drum beat that they developed a very expensive drum machine for the time that did not extsist. All the work and Beckers as well being hit by a car during the recording process plagued the completion. Donald Fagen had released a charting album that I considered a bookend for this album. After the completion of Gaucho Fagen became a solo act for a long period. Walter Becker went into rehab and eventually released a solo effort.
@recordrabbit
@recordrabbit 13 күн бұрын
Love REM but haven't really given a listen to Chronic Town. Like you, my REM was early to mid 90s. Going to give this a listen thanks to your recommendation.
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 13 күн бұрын
Wowzer did y'all have a lottery win lol Oooh John Fahey. I've heard of him. I know jack. New pressings are lovely, but oh man aren't they SO overpriced?! Hey you guys could take us to your local store and do a States & Kingdoms on location thing! Jenna I'm SO glad you got Dream of the Blue Turtles. It turned me on to jazz almost on its own (I was 13 when it came out). I went out and bought Branford Marsalis album Renaissance from a Jazz shop in London. And that was it, Courtney Pine, and then favourite genre discovered. Have you guys done any Can stuff? ps Sean I had a listen to June 44 - theres a lot happening there. Fugazi. Kyuss. Pavement. Maybe even some Beefheart? John Fahey, I had no idea he's acoustic! I think my brain had put him in with John Farnham many years ago. Don't hate me. I've got The Dance of Death and Other Plantation Favourites playing. I like.
@statesandkingdoms
@statesandkingdoms 13 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! You know we have a few Can records and we will definitely talk about them soon. And we really should do a field trip video to the record stores, it’s crossed our minds and we should really just make it happen :)
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 13 күн бұрын
@@statesandkingdoms field trip! That's the phrase I was looking for! 👍🏼👍🏼🙈
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 14 күн бұрын
Its such a strange, murky, danceable, listenable, extraordinary EP. I think the only completely obvious influence isn't musical, its the South. Its just got something indefinably Southern about it. Those opening chords of Wolves, Lower. The artwork. Michaels voice, Mikes backing vocals and harmonies, the sparseness of the drums. Even the photo on the back. When I first bought it in about 1990 it felt like it came from another world, we didnt have streetview and KZbin to get the feel of that scene. I was intoxicated by the Athens scene, the idea that these guys just walked the streets unhassled (up until about 1989). Those photos of Peter sitting on his porch a couple of years later. Of Michael in his scruffy suits and work boots on his stoop around the time of Document and Green. But Chronic Town was like this £100 note that was hidden under a pile of papers you found and couldn't believe. I think it might be the one I go back to the most.
@AutomaticForTheCollector
@AutomaticForTheCollector 15 күн бұрын
Yes! This is the one I voted for in your poll. REM and XTC are 2 of my all-time favorites, and you guys love those bands, too! You have great taste!!!
@soulclass68
@soulclass68 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for your insights on the album, I can’t wait to listen to it…
@babettesfeast6347
@babettesfeast6347 20 күн бұрын
Loving the dress, looks like you two just rocked up from a party. REM are amazing
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 20 күн бұрын
Cant believe you didnt already have Chronic Town. $300!! Whhhhaaa??? Man thats ridiculous. It was the only REM album/EP I had on vinyl simply because it never got the standalone release on cd. I had a lovely copy i got in about 1990 from legendary uk record store Beanos (now defunct). All my vinyl gone though. I'd love to have an open discussion about Exile. I went through a huge Stones obsession in 1989/90. I grew up near Ealing and Richmond where they originated, so I had this sort of weird connection thing. I always bought their record in shops local to the Ealing club. But at some point in the last 25 years, Exile has become the gold standard Stones album, instead of Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers. And I just do not get it. When I was completing my collection none of the stores got excited about it, and reviews on its release were lukewarm. So I always wonder how it happened...? Like from your perspective guys was it always THE album?
@crypttonite
@crypttonite 21 күн бұрын
@statesandkingdoms at 2:40 mark u r R E T A R D E D! Conventional as effn if. They were always about MUSIC. You hear jammy because you are not the one playing. I’m not into jammy jams myself, I understand them. Many people are obviously totally down with tunes that go all over the place in unpredictable repetition or randomness. They want more than verse chorus verse 3 minute pops 2:42 middle 8 solo chorus presented like a book report only extensively lame
@sigalfamily4771
@sigalfamily4771 21 күн бұрын
You do know that Mickey played on Songs for the Deaf as well as Desert Sessions? Homme has always been a Ween fan. BTW, the Grobe is a heavy, heavy song about cooking heroin.
@LaMax61auc
@LaMax61auc 24 күн бұрын
It sounds like TICKET TO RIDE😀
@StrayGator
@StrayGator 24 күн бұрын
Some of the tracks are better on the remix - One Slip being the best. But others - Terminal Frost particularly - are much better on the original. I love the album. I wish there was an extra track on side 2. I always thought it was missing something.
@oldbladderhorn
@oldbladderhorn 26 күн бұрын
she must have been a big influence also on Neil Young you can hear it in his tunes that Jackie deshannon flavour that hidden meaning within her poetry rubs off infecting the direction of the protest movement, on how to stick the finger up at the censors ... the man! there was a lot of revolutionary studio ideas inside her music as well. like that cut and spliced drum loop then re recorded it distorted a floor tom looping put in behind the 12 string guitar riff giving it that odd metronome blip beat she stutters sings in time with.
@esslar1
@esslar1 28 күн бұрын
After watching you guys, I looked into Andy Partridge and found an album called "Queen of the Planet Wow!, The Songs of Andy Partridge + Chris Braide." It is really good and I would have never heard if it weren't for you.
@toddhill7483
@toddhill7483 Ай бұрын
Enjoyed your commentary as always. I feel this album is largely under appreciated. I actually enjoy the remixed and updated version a bit more. Wright and Mason provided some excellent contributions and it just feels more like a proper Floyd album to me. Gratitude.
@2ummagumma
@2ummagumma Ай бұрын
Love this channel and Jenna/Sean are the best!
@seinfeld8812
@seinfeld8812 Ай бұрын
The remixed version of this album is really well done.
@ianfortier5534
@ianfortier5534 Ай бұрын
Personally speaking, I think the remix is better in some spots, but not as good in others. That's just me, though. Everyone wins with two versions of the album!
@wjeffreyrankin
@wjeffreyrankin Ай бұрын
Would love to hear your thoughts on The Division Bell too.
@statesandkingdoms
@statesandkingdoms 14 күн бұрын
We actually did a video on division bell but I really want to redo it!
@matthewsims9469
@matthewsims9469 Ай бұрын
Wore out that tape my last two years in high school, arguably their second best album after Regatta de Blanc (IMHO).
@chrisbotelho7212
@chrisbotelho7212 Ай бұрын
Lifelong Kinks fan. Probably their best of the Arista 70's l.p.'s, Sleepwalker & Misfits are close. Thing about the Kinks is that as soon as the song begins you know it's the Kinks but all their l.p.'s from Kontroversey through Phobia sound different one to the next. And every record has at least one of "those" Kinks songs that is perfect in their way even when the l.p. is not. Love the Kinks, saw them many times.
@robertzastrow4648
@robertzastrow4648 Ай бұрын
Have always felt that the disco version of "Here Comes The Night" sticks out on the L.A. (Light Album) like a sore thumb. Style-wise, it doesn't match the other songs on the album. They should have put "It's A Beautiful Day", from the obscure 1979 film Americathon, in its place, and just released the disco "Here Comes The Night" as a single. Years later, when the album was released as a CD, they could have included the song as a Bonus track. Why the band decided to re-record one of its older songs as a disco song I put the blame/credit to Bruce Johnston, who had then recently rejoined the group, and who was producing the album. He wanted the group (belatedly) to jump on the disco bandwagon. Think the band would have been better off if they had tried this in either 1977 or 1978, and recorded an original song in the disco style. Others, such as the Rolling Stones (with 1978's "Miss You") and Paul McCartney & Wings (1979's "Goodnite Tonite"), were more successful at doing this. I don't hate the Beach Boys song, thinking the music is good, and the harmonies superb. Just think their timing (or "Good Timin' "!) was off on this.
@OlafProt
@OlafProt Ай бұрын
I think it's better than The Final Cut. Final Cut is brutally dark and monotone and hard to listen to. And missed the light touches of the rest of the group. It makes The Wall seem Like a Wham album. So this was, and is, a breath of fresh air. It's never going to match the 70s output of course it won't. But it stands up. Probably more so than Division Bell. And it needs a nod for the extraordinary commitment to artistic integrity that is the cover art and Hipgnosis. None of that cgi nonsense here. Just a shitload of beds. And of course, if it was the first pink Floyd album a person heard, it's always going to be a favourite, never mind what we're "supposed" to like etc. The first pink Floyd album snobbery. 😂 so annoying!
@c.a.carlln0287
@c.a.carlln0287 Ай бұрын
I really happen to love this album. It’s solid all around. Thanks for your musings. ❤
@MN-ug1bh
@MN-ug1bh Ай бұрын
I have always been a fan of this album. I like the 80s sound better than the remix. I think learning to fly, one slip and dogs of war are great songs. I got a chance to see the band 3 nights in a row at the LA sports arena back in 1987. I was blown away by all the classics and the new songs.
@georgemathie8123
@georgemathie8123 Ай бұрын
I don't care what anybody says this is one of my favorite Pink Floyd albums it grabbed from the first listen when I first heard this album at 12 years old and songs such as dogs of war, one slip, on the turning away, yet another movie and sorrow are among my all time favorite Pink Floyd songs again this is just my opinion
@superbug1977
@superbug1977 Ай бұрын
So this album promoted them into the world of legitimate rock in terms of recognition. However, those of us who followed them from their earliest years view Heaven Tonight as the masterpiece. Nevertheless, Dream Police is a masterwork of sonic brilliance. In the late 70s and early 80s there were two ways to view Cheap Trick: love em or hate em--no inbetween. They were a bit like KISS and Rush in that regard. In St. Louis we loved them.
@ronfarney6477
@ronfarney6477 Ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉 seven and the ragged tiger is epic one of by favourite tracks as well is new moon on Monday av ya seen and heard the new version which they are playing on there summer Europe tour check it out from Croatia the 30th July 2024 hope ya like it enjoy 🎉🎉🎉
@SuperStrik9
@SuperStrik9 Ай бұрын
All time classic.
@GeraldYniguez
@GeraldYniguez Ай бұрын
My brother told me, that Floyd played a organ and it sounded like a church organ. I told him. "B S! Can't be done!" So with my mom we went to "THE MUSIC ODDICY." Hippie record store) across the street from PASADENA JUNIOR COLLEDGE I bought A SAUSURE FULL OF SECRETS and ODISS REDING & JIMMY HENDREXE live at the MODERY MUSIC FESTIVEL ( 1967 ) The hippie employee looked at me and asked me... You get into this guys, man? YA, SURE! I reply. He shoot his head and said. HEAVY__-!
@miguelwc
@miguelwc Ай бұрын
Wow... the opening tune of this podcast is horrible and annoying.
@marcyfan-tz4wj
@marcyfan-tz4wj 8 күн бұрын
it's 25 seconds long (shorter in other videos). i think you can handle it...or don't.
@happeningsounds1545
@happeningsounds1545 Ай бұрын
Do you like "Y" by the Pop Group. A couple of years back, their producer Dennis Bovell did a dub remix of the entire Y album. Highly recommended.
@145inA
@145inA Ай бұрын
So…Do you like it more than So?
@dafmor
@dafmor Ай бұрын
"A Cubist version of XTC"is a great description of it!
@mikewest1542
@mikewest1542 Ай бұрын
Greg’s favourite ELP album and mine too !
@johnbraun511
@johnbraun511 Ай бұрын
Its a Joey album for sure, so Johnny hated it.