@@beachcomberbob3496 Wow, really. Link to the sale please
@beachcomberbob34963 ай бұрын
@@Zeaiclies I'm an old props guy. I don't know about all this 'links' and things you're asking about. When I first made this, it was a one-off 'passion project', just to see if I could make a faithful replica that actually did stuff without video trickery or post production (much like my Farnsworth builds - check them out!). I had a couple of WH13 collectors approaching me with offers to buy it off me. But then the whole Covid thing hit, and they melted away and never came back. So it's been sat in the shipping box ever since, waiting for a 'super fan' willing to buy a one off 'hero plus' version of the thing that first appeared in episode 1-2. I'm not a conveyor belt kind of builder. My props are one-of-a-kind (like the thermal detonator from 'Return Of The Jedi', or the 'Lawgiver' from 'Dredd', or the 'Good Samaritan' from 'Hellboy') Once it's done, it's done, so there's always that '1 of 1' collector aspect. Oops, sorry, I seems to have gone on a bit long here......
@Zeaiclies3 ай бұрын
@@beachcomberbob3496 So how do I purchase it or know how much it is? Where is it for sale?
@pervoss4 ай бұрын
i just found this old catalouge, it sais you can get new jaws if needed (page 51) ia801902.us.archive.org/32/items/WodenToolsCatalogueNo.571957/WodenToolsCatalogueNo.571957.pdf
@pervoss4 ай бұрын
Nice , i resently found one of those beasts. in a scrapyard. 38Kg of cast Iron, I Took it apart, and sandblastet the painted bodies, and had it repainted in just 5 houers, funny enough both out vices must come from the same batch, as my had the exact same casting errors as yours. I also had the same problem with the jaws, 2 screws broke, One in each. I tried to to get them out by some special tool, but it broke, so i drilled out the peaces, but have no way to cut new threats i these hardend steel. One Thing i miss is the release macanism, i will try to build it from scratch, based on your pictures. 2 questions: Do you have any idea how old they are, ? and where did you get that nice little sticker ?
@jameslaurencesmith5 ай бұрын
bob...i am on the scrounge [again]the plates that you made up for the riser block ends . look very nice with the dark green back drop. any chance of me buying one ? i would like to copy you and make a ring light for my centec s, yes i have two now !and with a little bit of luck three in the very near future..the third one will be used for spares.. unless its easily fixable. ..look after your self .. regards laurence
@beachcomberbob34965 ай бұрын
Apologies for the late reply (medical problems). I can't lay my hands on the artwork I made to do the original etching (two computer failures ago) but give me a couple of days to see if I can take my own plate off without damaging it, and you can have that one. Then, when I get around to it I can make myself another. Sound good?
@meozurmühle5 ай бұрын
Good video Bob, I have a Myford ML7 with QC MARK 1, but I need a new external gears (related to the leadscrew) could you help me with dimensions and number o teeths of them tanks Romeo
@beachcomberbob34965 ай бұрын
Much as I would love to help you, that was the first and only time that I've come across a Mk1 gearbox, and I was doing it all 'on-the-fly' as it were. To my knowledge, Myford never published any documentation for it, because it was so short lived before they brought out the Mk2. So, in short, Myford probably won't be able to supply spare parts for it, and I have no documentation on the gears needed to mate it to the leadscrew. You could try lathes.co.uk - he has a wealth of information on all sorts of historical machinery, or a ML7 owners forum to see if someone there has an actual Mk1 that they can measure for you.
@alanandrews34136 ай бұрын
Fantastic. Many thanks for this Bob. Perfect text and wonderfully clear photos. This answers all the questions that you don't get answers for in the existing literature, including Myford manuals. Just one small question if I may: when I took my gearbox off (for bed regrind) there was no spacer strip between it and the bed. Should there be or have I misunderstood? The leadscrew seems to align ok without, but it's difficult to assess it accurately as it's so long (long bed) and therefore rather flexible at the RH end until the bearing goes back on. Part No. 230 does not feature in my original Super 7 manual diagram & list, but it does in the separate non-original QC Gearbox one. Super 7, Serial No. SKL 144495D.
@beachcomberbob34966 ай бұрын
If I remember rightly, the spacer strip is there to stand the gearbox off the bed so that it accurately lines up with the leadscrew shaft. I can only surmise that they found that, to get a milled mating surface on the Super 7 bed (as opposed to the ML7), they ended up having to machine away more of the raw casting than they first expected, and the packing plate was a cheap remedy. My concern would be, with the gearbox slightly cocked backwards, when the carriage is up the headstock end of the leadscrew and near to the box, it might cause the shaft to wear into the out-of-alignment bushings (over time). If you are finding that everything seems to be running smoothly without it, I wouldn't fret about it too much. It may be that it was only a problem on the short bed Super 7, which doesn't occur on your long bed version. If it does bother you that it's not there, it is just a simple piece of plate that can be easily made.
@alanandrews34136 ай бұрын
@@beachcomberbob3496 Many thanks for this reply. I'm still rebuilding after the regrind and I did check the top of the gearbox with the ELS level. You're right, it is very slightly cocked backwards. However, the saddle tracks smoothly right up to the headstock, winding the leadscrew manually with the clamp engaged, no undue resistance, and I didn't notice any bearing wear when installing the leadscrew. Hmm. I see the spacer strip is available from Myford at £10 so I think I'll grab that and see if it changes anything. Re your point about the long bed. Maybe the extra flexibility of the leadscrew compensates for any slight misalignment, or is that engineering heresy?
@beachcomberbob34966 ай бұрын
@@alanandrews3413 No - not heresy at all. When owning vintage equipment, some slack is always going to creep in. Just keep your gibs tight and take up the backlash! I would rather have my old Super 7 (which is as old as I am 😀) than anything being produced (for the same comparative price point) these days. Same with my Centec mill. By heck, they knew how to build 'em back then. Seriously though, the only thing I'd ever consider replacing with new parts are lead screws and nuts, although I have put up a video on a 'backlash eliminator' I made for the cross-slide. Perhaps you'll post up a video of your 'baby' when it's all done?
@alanandrews34136 ай бұрын
@@beachcomberbob3496 I don't know about posting a video. It's not a restoration, just a necessary dismantling and rebuild for getting the bed reground. As a self-taught amateur with no engineering training I've got nothing to show that videos like yours don't cover 10 times better. Incidentally, in case it's of interest, the regrind was done by Myford/RDG and they've done an excellent job, just skimming off the minimum necessary for trueing up, not worrying about the odd blemish that it's picked up over 60 years. It had become noticeably looser at the headstock end. They were most helpful, explaining in advance that if it had been reground before there might not be enough material left to stay within tolerances. All ok, but surely a warning there for buyers. They even set up the saddle for me. Smoother than it's ever been, and along the whole length of course. I'd forgotten what that was like.
@jameslaurencesmith7 ай бұрын
bob can you tell me how to put a belt on the the three pulley in the coloumn i see where the morse tapers go in and around the rond bit are three 3 mm hole at 120 degrees is this some sort of locking device ?if so i can blast awat an hope full unscrew it then i can offer in the v belt
@beachcomberbob34967 ай бұрын
Have a look at chapter five - -I think it explains it there.
@jameslaurencesmith7 ай бұрын
hi bob this is not a comment ,,more a word of praise.. well done ! i am still on the look out for a mk 3 head and am willing to pay ... but up to a point ! have just bought another centec 2 coloumn metal gears 6 gears in all.. what it is . its that i am in my 80 s and i havent got the strength i used to have . now the reason for two centecs one is for vertical milling and the other is for horizontal.. but i now need a knee and a table. so i might need to buy another centec for spares i have seen one on internet near coventry for auction starting price £250 "no one bid " so if it comes up again this time i will go for it .. well bob hope you can help me .. regards laurence
@jameslaurencesmith8 ай бұрын
dear bob..i too have a centec 2 but ..the vertical head isnt built to go up or down . i m thinking to make it go up and down by cutting a slot in the lowest part . its complicated. so do i manage with what ive got or save up m y pennies . i could get one tomorrow ! but i would be paying well over the odds i emquired two years ago . and they wanted £1.000.. i ll keep visitng the scrap yards ... who knows..! regards laurence
@beachcomberbob34968 ай бұрын
I would suggest that you hold out for a decently priced 'S/S' vertical head with the quill, if that's really going to be of use to you. Try negotiating the scrapper's price down, if that's the only one you can find. Centec, I think, envisioned that you would use their 'rapid table raise' lever to imitate the downward quill movement, but as that lever is on the rear of the machine, it's not very convenient. Unless I'm using the Centec as a drill press, I rarely use the quill, and prefer to use my Shelley car jack modification (have you seen that video of mine?) to raise the table in a convenient and measured manner.
@greylantern61558 ай бұрын
Dude awesome you just got to love hellboy
@qwazz8 ай бұрын
That looks very well done. Great addition with the different type of bullets.
@BalticLab8 ай бұрын
Now please show how to build the rest of the spaceship as well 😀
@beachcomberbob34968 ай бұрын
It's coming, it's coming. These panels are all going into the cockpit, later in the build.
@fluffchucker139 ай бұрын
OMG I splashed out ££’s on the same one, plus spare tool holders and new tools, only to find it doesn’t sit on the tool post so that the tool holders seat properly. Therefore, more ££’s to buy an arbor and end mill and bits to take 5-6 mm off the post casting, so that I could use it properly. (Note to self… stop watching another site who recommended these tools)
@fluffchucker139 ай бұрын
🙏 Praise to Beachcomber Bob 👍 After my ML7 motor blew up in my face 🥵, I found every time I switched it on, the motor kicked. This wore through the `rubber’ covered 3 core wire to the plug and shorted on the bench. Stripping it down, I took the switch cover off and found wood dust in it, so needed a clean up at the same time. Unfortunately part way through taking it apart … realised I should be taking photos of the disassembly 😱. By then, the I’d taken out the centre pin as I’d seen one of the five Bakelite moulded drum sections had split at the drum contact holes. This was repaired with Milliput, then superglue after it had dried. Alas, like others here, I found springs, drum contacts and clips, all in my tray and no idea how to put them back. With the great help of your video and Mr.LinnsWorkshop I was able to get everything back together … with nothing left over 😎 I want to replace the 5 and 3 core cables, but unsure whether 1.5mm would be suitable
@daviddouglas420010 ай бұрын
All you need now is a 34 & 33 tooth gear & you can cut metric as well as imperial.........
@djjuno10611 ай бұрын
I wish they'd show this in India..I've seen double the amount on a scooter 🛵😂
@reidflemingworldstoughestm139411 ай бұрын
Ya just can't get beatniks to take anything seriously.
@David-e1b3t11 ай бұрын
That looked fun as hell. I'm now sold on overcrowding my ride with fit, feminine and friendly hippy chicks.
@-fuk5711 ай бұрын
I'll keep my car from being overcrowded for the sake of keeping room for smoking.
@-fuk5711 ай бұрын
This really is a public service announcement.
@jameslaurencesmith753711 ай бұрын
brilliant ! im going to make one...still looking for a mk 111 head for me centec . ive thought of making one by converting mine ... after all is said and done some body had to make the mk 111 didnt they ?basically a posh rack and pinion plus some method of tighening up the coloumn ... nothing ventured,, nothing gained .. and if ,,if ,,if it was a success.. i would be flooded. with...... can you make me one ? ..... dreams ... regards laurence
@farfartony751 Жыл бұрын
Ja, architectural, your local gates guy, an overlooked resource.
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@paultaylor3291 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me the dimensions and number of teeth on the external lead screw pinion??
@gangleweed Жыл бұрын
I seem to remember a long time ago someone making a die filer from a sewing machine turned upside down....a bit bulky but I think it did work. With all die filers it is important to have the table at a variable height to even out the wear on the file or you get a file with a bald spot just where you need it to cut and a very necessary feature is to have the table inclinable too............a bit more complicated but you only want to build a machine once.
@beachcomberbob3496 Жыл бұрын
For the use I get out of it (on thin brass sheet), the files won't wear out for a good while (and I can always make more to fit), and I can't justify the expense of a real die filer. Just my humble take on 'make do and mend.'
@jameslaurencesmith7537 Жыл бұрын
hello bob ..been watching your videos with [drooling interest ] i havent got a printer so could you send me one of your riser block labels to afix on my riser block when finished .! ,,i paid £500 for my horizontal centec 2 and had to go all the way to gloucester to get it from derby.. then i wanted a vertical head and found one on e bay £500 .. so far £1000. dismayed slightly ..as it wasnt the quill type [ mk 111 ] but time will tell i have a friend of mine who has several mills ! big lumps just sat there slowly rusting away. what a shame ,,,they are for sale and think i could get one for scrap price . know anybody that wants one ?regards laurence
@jameslaurencesmith7537 Жыл бұрын
i enjoyed all the videos on the centec [ same as mine ] but sadly i dont have the quill head .. just an ordinary swivel type head. . i am tempted to convert the head i have into a quill type [. to a round of applause from all and sundry when finished and working ] i mean,, who made them in the first place ? the tackle that we have nowdays is much more advanced than what was available then !iwould dearly like a quill type even if its broken,,, rusted solid..it can be fixed !..a good soak in hot coca cola wont do any harm !. any ideas ? regards laurence
@beachcomberbob3496 Жыл бұрын
All I can say is patience. The heads do come up from time to time, I was just lucky that mine came up so shortly after I got the basic horizontal base (had to travel a ways to get it mind). No harm in renovating what you have and being 'creative' with it. Visit a few on-line forums for vintage lathes and ask around, as those are the guys who might have an old vertical head just sitting in the back of the garage rusting, or at least point you in the right direction. It's been so long that I've forgotten which sites I visited - perhaps practical machinist or lathes.co.uk (I know they have a ton of interesting Centec data).
@union310 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@jameslaurencesmith7537 Жыл бұрын
i have the exact same machine [ in bits ] this video will help me assemble it to its former glory ..regards laurence
@beachcomberbob3496 Жыл бұрын
Glad to be of help. I don't have fancy video creating kit, but I wanted to put it out there for folks like me who had never even seen this machine before buying it. If I can do it, I'm sure you'll have an easier time.😁
@robinkearney2778 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!! Very good, clear instructions. Thanks for sharing.
@223mike Жыл бұрын
Just a quick question ,where do you get the putty coat? Great videos! I have recently purchased an M L 7 R with quick change gearbox, and it needs lots of t l c !!!
@beachcomberbob3496 Жыл бұрын
Look up 'MOTIP Spray Putty'. Available on Ebay, Amazon, and most big auto spares shops.
@223mike Жыл бұрын
@@beachcomberbob3496 thank you so much !!
@ezeerbanmurd Жыл бұрын
I have a Centec 2a and converted it from 3 Phase to single phase and the table drive motor works with an added capacitor. See my article in the "Model Engineer's Workshop Magazine". Keep up the good work .
@PeterBaker-hp1np2 жыл бұрын
Hi Beachcomer Bob, I have damaged tumbler gear i need to replace please can you advise me how you remove the taper pin in situ from the tumbler gear so you can take out the shaft ?
@beachcomberbob34962 жыл бұрын
In my case, the taper pin had been hammered in, so I had to drill it out. But generally, if you examine both ends of the pin and determine which is the smaller diameter, it should tap out easily with a hammer and punch. If you can't make out which end is which, try a few gentle taps at either end. It should become obvious that one of them is moving the pin out.
@PeterBaker-hp1np2 жыл бұрын
@@beachcomberbob3496, thank you for your prompt reply but can only see one end of it and wo during if it was a blind hole , I will investigate further. Regards Peter Baker
@beachcomberbob34962 жыл бұрын
@@PeterBaker-hp1np Sometimes it can be hard to see the pin if it's flush with it's surroundings, but it isn't a blind hole. Use a drift (parallel punch) of a smaller diameter, if you have one. Like I said, it shouldn't take great blows to move it if you are hitting the correct end. Of course, if some swine has hammered it in to the point of peining over the end, you will have to drill it out like I did. In that case, you do have to get in there at an awkward angle, but it is do-able.
@PeterBaker-hp1np2 жыл бұрын
@@beachcomberbob3496 , Good afternoon Bob I managed to source a new transfer gear [2 teeth broken off the original] I had to drill it part way through then it punched out, replaced gear and new 20 tooth gear on layshaft [ 1 broken tooth] and fitted brand new input shaft [splines damaged in 3 places] Thanks with the help off your video it all went back together very well. Many Thanks for Your Help Bob. Regards Peter.
@beachcomberbob34962 жыл бұрын
@@PeterBaker-hp1np I was only passing on what little I know. Thanks for the update, and happy machining!
@jameslaurencesmith75372 жыл бұрын
hey up can you help me my mill is just like yours ,,,,but i have what can only be discribed as some sort of gear box its cylindrical in dimension 5" dia x200 length with a lever one end and two pulleys on the same shaft help ! regards laurence
@jameslaurencesmith75372 жыл бұрын
dear bob remember me ? i was asking if you will be making any more risers for the centec .. bob,, what extra height do i need ? i can get as much aluminium as i want and have a nice piece of 75x75x300 but after i cut the "v " slots it will only give me a rise of 50mm i think i need at least three times that ! or perhaps twice ? happen you will give me your height dimensions and i will take it as an example that works ! i am not going down the cast iron track... but the aluminium one ! regards laurence
@jc-d61792 жыл бұрын
Much more satisfying to watch than the videos that give every exgausting process detail.
@bustednuckles22 жыл бұрын
That thing is VERY COOL!!
@union3102 жыл бұрын
I think you have had some fun making that
@beachcomberbob34962 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have a full length version showing the build process, on my channel.
@union3102 жыл бұрын
And the point is?.......
@beachcomberbob34962 жыл бұрын
The point is it's part of the space ship console I'm building for my grandson to play with.
@union3102 жыл бұрын
@@beachcomberbob3496 That I get!
@TheDuc0692 жыл бұрын
You really do make it look easy, beautifully done.
@Dzonemp2 жыл бұрын
That's one lucky kid. I'd love to have had something that cool when I was a kid.
@TheDuc0692 жыл бұрын
Bob just Awesome!!! Great job your grandson will love it. Never enough space 😅. Didn’t want to give him your Tesla to play with?
@jameslaurencesmith75372 жыл бұрын
hello remember me ? raise block for my centec mill ! i have changed my mind !,forget the cast iron i want to use aluminium .! and have had a gleg [look] on internet and a 9x4x4 will cost me 40 quid ! cast iron s all well and good but the mess it makes ! ! regards laurence
@jameslaurencesmith75372 жыл бұрын
the thread form on the vice is "butress" most "old" vices have it ... cheers regards laurence
@joelcarson95142 жыл бұрын
Great! Right from the album cover! My favorite rendition of the Martian fighting machines was from a Classics Illustrated comic book version of H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds back in the 1960's though. I've never seen anyone tackle a 3D model of that version.
@WaltherBrandl2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful. Great build.
@jlufton90762 жыл бұрын
Do you take orders? I'd love one.
@beachcomberbob34962 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, I've just started making another one. Do you want to go on the list? My email's on my 'about' page.
@jameslaurencesmith75372 жыл бұрын
you have done a brilliant job ! please could you make one for me i too have a centrec 2 mill so the dimensions are the same .. i would be eternally gratefull and of course you would be looked after... £ wise please help me regards laurence
@beachcomberbob34962 жыл бұрын
Sorry I din't get back to you right away. I'm waiting on my supplier to get back to me with a price for the cast iron. When they do, we can discuss further. OK?
@beachcomberbob34962 жыл бұрын
See my email address on the about page.
@stuartkeen52342 жыл бұрын
That is brilliant and very accurate considering you had to fit in all the equipment. Brilliant job . Want one!!!
@jameslaurencesmith75372 жыл бұрын
dear bob .. couldnt help but admire the way you bit the bullet and went ahead and made a raiser block ! ! brilliant !i have just got a centrec 2 miller only the horizontal head is fitted ,,, so now i need a vertical head and a raiser block ! can you help ?
@beachcomberbob34962 жыл бұрын
Mine too only had the horizontal fittings when I bought it. It took a while for me to find a vertical head - I can only assume that they were an 'optional extra' that many didn't buy. They do come up on Ebay now and again. As for the riser, I'm not sure they even made one. This was just my own solution to the 'headroom' problem with modern tooling.