I met John with Hamskea at an archery shoot that he had a booth at and I have the bracket on my Phase 4 33". He immediately spotted my bracket and told me not to use the bracket with a hunting bow. The angle of the chord to the bracket is incorrect and to install the chord on the limb with the provided limb pad. He went to great length explaining why.. too much for me to write here. Unless you want the full version
@TrueLineOutdoors3 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@trident88724 күн бұрын
If you compare this meopta meostar with Leica televid APO 82 So which is the best???
@TrueLineOutdoors4 күн бұрын
I’ve never compared them but am so impressed with the Meostar. The 20-70 zoom is incredible
@trident88724 күн бұрын
Which scope??
@TrueLineOutdoors4 күн бұрын
Meopta Meostar S2 20-70 (Cabelas euro version same glass as S2)
@@TrueLineOutdoors did you know?? You can use astronomy 1.25 inch eyepieces on your meopta meostar you just need astro adapter and it is available on B&H photo, it's made by meopta please check the.
@robertmonte49657 күн бұрын
What kind of sight is that whats the making
@TrueLineOutdoors7 күн бұрын
Hello! It’s a Williams FP. I have a full video on the sight rundown it works great. -Kyle
@mr.skeptical307112 күн бұрын
I Always sight in with the BMP's. Then you don't have to worry about it
@TrueLineOutdoors8 күн бұрын
Very true!!
@justincarp704120 күн бұрын
That is not a good group
@TrueLineOutdoors14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@loganfloyd50327 күн бұрын
lets play music over a sound test.....brilliant
@TrueLineOutdoors27 күн бұрын
Thanks for feedback!
@andreiilies31928 күн бұрын
Looks like you’re underspined , all three arrows hit the target at different angles . Take a look at spine chart .Also FOC CALCULATOR. You maybe wasting energy because of that . 🫡
@TrueLineOutdoors27 күн бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it!
@Get2TheDeLorean28 күн бұрын
This is the Knight everybody tells me I need?! My Accura LRX groups these sub MOA at 100 yards with 80gn/weight BH209 and a federal 209A…
@TrueLineOutdoors28 күн бұрын
You don’t need a Knight but they are nice. Sub MOA with open sights? We recently got this out to 400 and it’s shooting great with open sights. Recently been shooting closer to 2-3 inches at 100 yards with a peep. With a scope I’m sure this would easily be sub MOA. Didn’t have to fine tune load at all. This was the first time ever shooting these and I do not just post best groups just what I shoot that day and it was not the tightest group which is all good! I have been very impressed with the Knight for many reasons. Glad you enjoy your CVA. -Kyle
@samdye303828 күн бұрын
Excellent!
@TrueLineOutdoors28 күн бұрын
Thank you! Will be using them on NM ELK!
@mikeshaw722529 күн бұрын
Im late to the party but great video. Ive been looking for data like this. Just to echo others, a 3 fletch speed breakdown would be great. Quick question, can you share your draw length, draw weight, etc.?
@TrueLineOutdoors29 күн бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate you stopping by! I do want to do another test video as soon as I can. I will definitely keep in mind 3 fletch with speed. I pull 70# and have a 30 inch draw length. The phase 4 has plenty of speed and my arrows are around 460 grains. -Kyle
@tjblackforest69Ай бұрын
Thanks, exactly what I just was thinking about
@TrueLineOutdoors29 күн бұрын
Awesome! Have a great season! -Kyle
@blainek9344Ай бұрын
That front fiber is huge! Williams has a .019" diameter one, I just got it and it's is awesome: Fiber Optic Insert GREEN - .019"(WGS# 650208). Looks like you would have to get a whole new front sight though, but probably worth it.
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
It is but works! I actually don’t mind it too bad but am looking at options. It is pretty bright and works well. The Williams looks neat you mentioned appreciate you sharing! -Kyle
@TuckerZW24Ай бұрын
every time i see this is think its fake... Unreal vid
@rickanderson9039Ай бұрын
Very Good!
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Thank you! Really enjoying this setup getting ready for NM elk! -Kyle
@greekmaster1001Ай бұрын
What's those ugly big things spinning in the fields.? BTW I love my DCA vanes
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Windmills.. Lots of discussions about them and we were bummed when they all came in. The West Texas sunsets are truly spectacular. DCA is great! Thanks for stopping by. -Kyle
@slawco7Ай бұрын
Ciekawa recenzja lornetki MAVEN którą chętnie bym kupił ale w UE jest problem... ja mam lornetki BLASER Primus 10x42 i także bardzo polecam!
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Very neat! Never tried those you mentioned. The Maven are excellent for sure. -Kyle
@stevefletcher2648Ай бұрын
Will it throw the sight off when changing pin size?
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
We have had two guys do this and haven’t noticed it. I believe this is due to the machining of the vertical pin being so straight. Hope that helps! -Kyle
@fredflati5789Ай бұрын
Why would you play music in the background of this video?
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Appreciate the feedback
@jimathybindlenim635921 күн бұрын
@@TrueLineOutdoors could to release the video with no music? Or just turn the music down I can't really hear some of the shots properly
@gabrielhouston5660Ай бұрын
Awesome!!
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Thank you!
@WyattFontenot-mi8lxАй бұрын
Love the video and I stand behind the deadmeats but a bit of advice I shoot religiously and with what your doing with your release your not target panicking but you are just gripping it and popping it off instead of putting your thumb pressure on it and using your shoulder to let it go off !!! But that’s just how I was taught and my groups at 60 are usually 2-3 inch groups but I do have my off days happy hunting bud
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Thank you so much! Hope you have a great season!
@daviddempsey8721Ай бұрын
Test & Evaluation engineer here.... great job of a difficult measurement to try. Two suggestions for this video would be to stop the music backing for the shots. Secondly, after all the shots, play the sequence of arrows passing (at 1 sec intervals with the type in print on the screen so we can hear the difference in a short time). What you'd also notice that a 3dB change is barely audible to the ear. so a 8.4dB difference with the loudest is noticeable. Yes, there are always more variables to control for (wind noise), small variation in arrow distance from the mic, any mic directionality, ensuring the measurement is responsive enough to gate out the wind, bow twang and the target thump etc. In the lab we'd also record the sensor instrument make, model and S/N for repeatability, and measurement setup (measurement speed if this is an option) and to check that it is calibrated. The make, model and settings would be useful to know. You'd also record the bow details and target (as you've done). When making relative measurements (A vs B vs C...) as you're doing, some of these finesses aren't so important.
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
This is so helpful thank you!! I agree with your suggestions and if I do it again will apply these thank you! I like that you measure by unit. I’m sure every unit has some difference of sensitivity. I felt like doing it all on the same day and same unit helped and for the future would want to redo them all together again. -Kyle
@ukjw2Ай бұрын
Brother, saying this as somebody who struggles with TP, you gotta get that shot tightened up and probably just forget about shooting anything over 30 until it’s fixed.
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Thank you!
@FrancSchiphorstАй бұрын
I was scorer for a final round and the sound of 70 olympic spin vanes was awesome compared to 50m compound. You could hear the release and then ffrfrrrttttttt the arrow followd by the arrow hitting the target. No sound meter but more noise then your test.
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Super cool! Thanks for sharing! -Kyle
@madman432000Ай бұрын
I just got some DCA mini sabres to try in a 4 fletch.
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Awesome! I have been wanting to try those!
@madman432000Ай бұрын
@@TrueLineOutdoors I made up 3 arrows from GT Airstrikes and 4 mini sabres and 125g point, they were flying really well. 87yds and the flight was nice and straight. Looked better than the TAC vanes. I think they are tall enough for 3 fletch so am trying that now on Victory RIP.
@joshuawooledge6945Ай бұрын
Good video. Thanks
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Thanks so much!
@thebshumate2 ай бұрын
Dude, great video. I really like your pack. Did you share your pattern or even a close up break down of how you made it? I'm about to try my hand at it. Thanks!
@jeffreyhall8382 ай бұрын
I own a couple pair of these (8x30 and 10x30) for the money they are hard to beat, to get better optics you will have to buy an Alpha brand and spend at least twice the money. My only complaint is the eyecups could be better they are too flimsy and they need firmer and more settings
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing! I tried the 10x30 as well and definitely preferred the 8x30. I agree these are hard to beat and the size/weight is truly amazing. -Kyle
@echo1er2 ай бұрын
Have you tried cutting shorter arrows to get more fps
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
I have not! My bow tunes well with carbon to carbon at 29.5. -Kyle
@owenogden58852 ай бұрын
I have same gun are you shooting original breech plug and bolt with red primer holder or is it upgraded bolt and which breech plug I'm trying to switch to black horn for elk hunt coming up thanks nice shooting
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
Awesome!! I switched to the bare primer setup. This Knight Disc Elite is a shooter I’m very happy with it. How is yours shooting? I’ll be taking mine to New Mexico for elk hunt this year cannot wait. -Kyle
@owenogden58852 ай бұрын
Thanks Kyle I see knight sells the bolt with 209 breech plug is that the one you got ? Knight is impossible to get info from. Mine is shooting well with 777 but would like to maximize performance if possible. Thanks again !
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
I got mine from SSK firearms. I had to get the Bare Primer Adapter and the Breech Plug Body, Bare Primer. I believe they are part numbers PAK1 and BPBPK1
@Aldocello12 ай бұрын
I have a mathews phase 4 29 , phase 4 33 and a mathews Triax and all three of them I jave the Hamskea cables tied to my yoke pucks and have no issues at all ... There are ways to tune for proper timing the rest itself ....None the less , glad you got things figured out on your set up
@TrueLineOutdoorsАй бұрын
Man that is great to hear!! Do you adjust the launcher tension?
@blainek93442 ай бұрын
Powder used, grains/volume? Primer used?
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
Blackhorn 209 with 100gr by volume or 70gr by weight. Always be careful with this as it could be easy to do too much since the volume and weight are different. Thanks for stopping by! -Kyle
@blainek93442 ай бұрын
@@TrueLineOutdoors nice, good shooting BTW!
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! Excited to get this more dialed for New Mexico elk! Have a great season.
@kerryjones12572 ай бұрын
@@TrueLineOutdoorsweak. I run 110 grain by weight in my CVA getting 2,540 fps.
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
That’s moving! 45 or 50 cal?
@davidlytle39742 ай бұрын
Well done. Your final comparisons with Tract, Nikon etc. were what we needed to make good decisions. Thanks.
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad it was helpful. -Kyle
@TimpTim2 ай бұрын
Have had mine about two weeks. I join others who have simply remarked, "bright and tack sharp." Love 'em!
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
They are excellent!!!
@wswillett3 ай бұрын
Speed means very little stability and accuracy is most important......
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
Agreed measuring speed was interesting to see difference but ultimately shooting with fixed broadheads is a good test to decide which vane also trying 3 and 4 fletch. -Kyle
@mondayfunday5263 ай бұрын
How many grains of charge were you using?
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
Hey there! 100gr by volume or 70gr by weight. I weigh them carefully and made sure would be safe for my setup first. The weight and volume can be confusing as I’m sure you know so everyone who shoots muzzleloader has to be extra careful. I really enjoy the little details that muzzleloaders require. -Kyle
@weekendwarrior83343 ай бұрын
Their Sparrow bino adapter is awesome! I’m going to be picking up one of these heads
@TrueLineOutdoors3 ай бұрын
I’ll have to take a look! This head is amazing. I am totally satisfied with it! -Kyle
@sportbikeguy98753 ай бұрын
my question is, how do you take your calibration shot at 80 yards without a sight tape to begin with? you just accept you're probably going to loose/break an arrow, and send it?
@TrueLineOutdoors3 ай бұрын
Great question! If starting from scratch I would just slowly walk back and you can also use distances such as 20 and 60 to build a tape. I think it’s more accurate further out but you can build tapes with shorter distances. Hope that helps! -Kyle
@ianlaughlin853 ай бұрын
I'd be more concerned with accuracy. A few fps isn't as important. I wonder if the slower speed means energy was transfered into spin or just more drag. Theoretically more spin is more accuracy. So the slower arrows may be more accurate.
@TrueLineOutdoors3 ай бұрын
Agreed! This test showed me they are all pretty close but there are differences. Also accuracy with broadheads would be the best overall test for hunters. Thanks for stopping by. -Kyle
@MH-sp2ol3 ай бұрын
Any tracking repeatability testing? This seems like a nice set up without spending Palma sight money
@TrueLineOutdoors3 ай бұрын
Hey! I haven’t yet but just drew a New Mexico open sight tag so will be putting this through its paces and make a video on it. I’m going to do a lot of testing and try to get it dialed. I will check the zero as well and do my best to get it out on a video. It’s a sweet system but will require some tinkering if you want to get in the 300 plus range.
@Brumasterj4 күн бұрын
Awesome set up I have 2B new mexico Maybe i can get this set up before the hunt!
@juliusjames55773 ай бұрын
No chronys were harmed in the making of this video.
@TrueLineOutdoors3 ай бұрын
Thankfully no! Haven’t tried this since I did this though 😂
@weekendwarrior83343 ай бұрын
What tripod are you using with this head?
@TrueLineOutdoors3 ай бұрын
Hey there! It’s the Vortex Ridgeview. It’s amazing for standing and glassing and I like the 3 vs 4 legs. Only downside is it’s tall when folded up. I remove center column so with this head it’s a very tall tripod and light. It sounds silly but the peace of mind of their warranty is nice too as I have had issues in the past with another tripod. I have tried a Slik 633 and liked it but this one has been great if you can find a deal on it. What tripod do you use? I would like to try an aziak for sitting and glassing someday. -Kyle
@gsnicholas85223 ай бұрын
The B2 series parts are sourced from Japan, but they’re assembled in Wyoming. The parts may originate from the same place as the Sig Zulu, but they’re not assembled by the same company.
@TrueLineOutdoors3 ай бұрын
Thanks for heads up! I’ll add assembled in U.S. I had some sent in for warranty and they were sent to CA which I thought was interested. Regardless the image was basically the exact same with the Sigs. -Kyle
@mlwalters734 ай бұрын
Hey guys. Thanks for the content. I just came across your videos. On your sound test. Are the DCA the regular or mini?
@TrueLineOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Hey man great question. They are the regular DCA vanes. I’m considering trying the minis as well. -Kyle
@Chrissers20104 ай бұрын
I have a "few" 50 caliber Knight Disc Extremes set up for Oregon. I love the Williams rear peep sight. However, I shoot an XS Sights fine white line patridge (not partridge) front blade. The aiming point is the very top of the blade, therefore you are not covering the aiming point with the sight which gives a very clear sight picture which I prefer. I have been able to hold 1" groups at 100 yards when my eyesight was better. This is also an extremely rugged front sight. I use a No Excuses 460 grain conical bullet. These are lead cast bullets. He die sizes his lead conicals for a precision diameter. The heavy bullet is much the same principle as heavy bullets in long range rifles.. With a pure lead conical you don't want your powder charge to be too hot or the bullet will strip from the rifling and get erratic accuracy. I have found around 80 to 85 grains of powder to be optimum. The downrange energy on this load is incredible. I finely put in the time to find a setup that has excellent accuracy for our late season blacktail bunts. I also killed my Unit 61 Colorado bull with the same set-up.
@TrueLineOutdoors2 ай бұрын
I will have to check out the XS sight! I’ve heard good things on the no excuses never shot them though. Sounds like you are absolutely dialed. Congrats on the CO bull as well. I’m really loving muzzleloader more and more and your info is helpful and inspiring. -Kyle
@natephillips15974 ай бұрын
I know this is a older video but at distance to judge accuracy kinda need a wind reading as well to see if you getting a wind diviation
@TrueLineOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Agreed 100%! Thanks for the feedback. I may do more with the precision cut archery wind cuts but this video was to show speed downrange. It would also be j treating how headwinds affect these as well. -Kyle
@philliptaylor75174 ай бұрын
Should test the new blazer bully vane more apples to apples
@TrueLineOutdoors4 ай бұрын
I’ll have to check those out thank you so much!
@larrygrant73384 ай бұрын
nice video, I can see that the Labradar made it easy
@TrueLineOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Hands down the easiest method i have found and most accurate. No longer scared to switch arrows either!
@dcacustomarrows18164 ай бұрын
Great job man!
@TrueLineOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Keep up the great work!
@dcacustomarrows18164 ай бұрын
@@TrueLineOutdoors You too man. Loving the content!
@TrueLineOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thanks again!!!! I’ll try to get the minis at some point to use as well!
@dcacustomarrows18164 ай бұрын
@@TrueLineOutdoors Absolutely! I love seeing guys do their own testing.
@dcacustomarrows18164 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review man! Well done and well presented. The Sabres are super stable and super quiet. They also spin faster and quicker out of the bow than lower profile vanes. They've also a lot quieter than the Hunter profile. Thanks again!
@TrueLineOutdoors4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Really impressed with your vanes. I really like how they don’t hold memory as easy as some of the others and they hold speed really really well! I need to try the minis as I had a little clearance issue with my setup. -Kyle