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@Trontotario
@Trontotario 9 күн бұрын
9:03 if you believe in both MoltenMCI and shatterVictim then Michael experiencing the crying child’s memories could make sense, let me explain. When the funtimes merged into Ennard they’ve basically put the crying child back together by rebuilding his memories into one basically resurrecting the crying child. The only reason Michael survived being scooped is because of remnant and if Ennard is the crying child at that point then Michael would have the crying child’s memories. By ejecting out baby the crying child was able to fully establish control of the MCI hence “one big happy family” and “together again”. This is the only explanation I have for how bite victim’s remnant could have ended up in Michael.
@Trontotario
@Trontotario 21 күн бұрын
Ah, this book doesn’t fit with my crazy headcanon, like who does Scott think he is? I know the story better than him!!!
@SalvatoreBrancaccio-og4id
@SalvatoreBrancaccio-og4id 23 күн бұрын
I think that the third partner was phone guy
@logansgamingchannel6169
@logansgamingchannel6169 Ай бұрын
5:45 well this didn't age well
@dorianbirchall
@dorianbirchall Ай бұрын
1. They're springlock suits specifically so they can be put on endos functionally, so they don't need a 3rd person. 2. The listing was meant for a random person because Henry heard that Mike died after SL since no one knew he possessed himself.
@tuc-kaankaraayan
@tuc-kaankaraayan 2 ай бұрын
@KoolzingtonChefzingtonTheThird
@KoolzingtonChefzingtonTheThird 2 ай бұрын
This is why you’re a small channel 💀
@lwes4
@lwes4 2 ай бұрын
in my mind this theory been a thing since five night four thing that never get brought up like ever about the box is it locked by two locks now why would that be if just something Afton has? two lock mean two key two key mean the two owner's, will and henry... i think what was in that box bow was not some secret about the kid, but the secret about Tech, the third partner, the one will and henry probably cut out of the business and probable had something to do with upcoming secret of the mimic 1979 event. and there is some ofther evidence's some would jump to Edwin (and i think there good chance he will shair that name) but there has been another story the puppet carver implied something at one point what that point is i do not recall. also factor in story chucky cheese and bear company and how it story that revloved around three peaple, (founder chucky cheeses and animatronic builder, the founder about the animatronic company, CC ceo tried to higher and the business man that nearly partnered with CC Ceo but then then hired the animatronic company and built his won brand) it fits.
@ezequielin5058
@ezequielin5058 2 ай бұрын
But Michael IS The Playable Character Of Fnaf1 In FNAF 4 The Nightmare Area And The Animatronics Movements/Patrons Are Based On FNAF1 There's The Fact That Michael Drawn Nightmare Fredbear In The Book And Also That You Can Hear Phone-Guy's Call On FNAF4, Meaning That Whoever Is Having The Nightmare Heared Them Before In Some Point (FNAF1 Protag) And That 'Whoever' Might Be Michael As The Afrorementioned Nightmare Fredbear Drawing FNAF4 Protag = Michael (The Drawing) FNAF1 Protag = FNAF4 Protag (Phone Guy's Calls) Therefore FNAF1 Protag = Michael (He Had Nightmares After Working In FNAF)
@marvankasnoph4142
@marvankasnoph4142 2 ай бұрын
Yo SL definitely closed down,when michael called the cops to retrieve the deaed so they can have their😢 funerals
@zekromfan1
@zekromfan1 2 ай бұрын
According to this book, Helpy is the most hated character in the fandom, and is also very creepy. I still can’t get over how this book doesn’t have a page for either Mike or Micheal, let alone all of the inaccuracies. Why does it show book Charlie when talking about game Charlie? Why doesn’t it specify that Charlie is both Henry’s daughter and also the Puppet? Why does it name drop Elizabeth on Henry’s page, but not his daughter? Why in gods name does Twisted Chica have a page? She doesn’t even exist within the story, she only exists in merch or as concept art, she gets a page but Micheal Afton doesn’t? This book is something people have to pay for, so why is it so low quality when compared to the free wiki? You have to buy this, pay actual money, it should be of some level of quality. It’s almost as if whoever wrote the book didn’t know what they were writing about and just copy pasted the dialogue or events within the cutscenes of the games. And considering what was revealed in the 10th anniversary Dawko interview, it makes sense why it’s so low quality, since Scott has been hands off when it comes to the books, he mostly just gives them clip notes to work off of and it’s not too different when it comes to the games. It’s only after the release of Security Breach where he realized that by doing that the quality of the products began to suffer, so ever since Help Wanted 2/Ruin he’s been more hands on again. Reminds me a bit of what Akira Toriyama did with Dragon Ball for a while, and especially when it came to Super.
@joshuamcgonagle5455
@joshuamcgonagle5455 2 ай бұрын
In the Talbert Files, there was a third partner named Emmett Tucker who built the Mediocre Melodies (specifically Happy Frog) for his daughter Cassidy because her favorite color was green. maybe Emmett is the third partner and Cassidy actually has a LOT more connections to Fredbear's than we initially thought.
@mushroom_gal490
@mushroom_gal490 2 ай бұрын
This is barely related to the subject of this video, but why do you say FNAF world is largely non-canon? There's no indication of this that I know of, and in fact Scott's comments about it seem to reinforce that, while he doesn't love how that game came out, it is still canon
@sodal3
@sodal3 2 ай бұрын
At the time, I'd thought it wasn't canon. Atm, I have almost the complete opposite opinion on it and think that it potentially explains many aspects of the current era; actually currently working on a script for a video on that topic.
@scorcher69
@scorcher69 2 ай бұрын
doesn't five laps at freddy's confrm that you play as william afton in midnight motorist and that the fnaf 4 house is the afton house or an afton house.
@TheHaddonfieldRegistry
@TheHaddonfieldRegistry 2 ай бұрын
@@scorcher69 pretty much
@dwfan91-
@dwfan91- 2 ай бұрын
This is an amazing video and theory Great job! I don't really see anyone talking about dittophobia for some reason so this was really cool
@alexrivers8163
@alexrivers8163 2 ай бұрын
"what did you bring home." Could indicate foxy bro brought his brothers body home at which point Afton began putting him through the nightmare gas experiments
@sh1nyman483
@sh1nyman483 2 ай бұрын
While official, the unused Faz-Facts have been stated to be noncanon and written by Illumix rather than Scott according to an Illumix employee, so I would cite their information cautiously. Personally, I believe FNAF 1 takes place in 1992 due to hints from the Survival Logbook and because applying the calendar schedule of nights worked in FNAF 2 to FNAF 1's week works only with '92 and not '93, but it's only a year's difference anyway.
@cleaveuntome42
@cleaveuntome42 2 ай бұрын
Dittophobia having mikes room in a secret area and mikes room in SB seem connected after listening to this
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 2 ай бұрын
with you are the band set on the 2000s lets say that afton is also springlocked on the 2000s to dittohobia 2000-2010 > you are the band 2005 > the new kid 2009 > follow me 2009 > sister location 2009 (btw, the faz facts were scrapped, not considered canon and were not written by scott, so the fnaf 1 location opened on 1990-1992)
@v1ct0rygames32
@v1ct0rygames32 2 ай бұрын
i've placed the closure of freddy's in late 1993/early 1994, follow me/afton's springlocking in 1995 given that's when it happened in the novel trilogy and finally dittophobia 10 yrs after, so 2005
@TheHaddonfieldRegistry
@TheHaddonfieldRegistry 2 ай бұрын
Oh my god wait. Ok, if the REAL Afton house is in a neighborhood, but the one we see in FNAF4's gameplay, main menu, and in CoDB is the fake experiment one which is always shown isolated, then what is the implication for Midnight Motorist/Later That Night? Midnight Motorist/Later That Night has recently gotten some concrete implications that it's about William. And the house we go to is an isolated house, not a house in a neighborhood.
@justice8718
@justice8718 2 ай бұрын
I think Michael could be a BV bot in the games that was developed by these experiments.
@blanktester
@blanktester 2 ай бұрын
​@@justice8718oka5 so like how in silver eyes, Charliebot is built to replace human Charlie, Mike was built to replace CC? I see where you're going with this but who is Foxy Bro?
@justice8718
@justice8718 2 ай бұрын
@@blanktester Foxy Bro is the phone guy and the in-universe author of the security logs. Thus explaining why the author chosen to present himself as Foxy instead of Freddy, the actual face of the franchise, uses similar wordings as the phone guy, and his knowledge of the springlock suits that are supposed to be covered up. It makes a lot of sense considering that Jeremy is working as a night guard in fnaf2, so he and his friends are clearly old enough to work at Freddy’s. And the animatronic that went after phone guy and caused a stupidly strange event was GF, the animatronics that was possessed by the BV. So far, we have seen him, Jeremy, and Oswald’s dad mysteriously disappear from the face of the earth under very unusual circumstances.
@blanktester
@blanktester 2 ай бұрын
@@justice8718 I thought Phone Guy got killed before FNAF 1, how could get still be alive to write the logbook after that? Interesting idea regardless, not a common take.
@justice8718
@justice8718 2 ай бұрын
@@blanktester He is an Afton. Death is gay to him.
@TheHaddonfieldRegistry
@TheHaddonfieldRegistry 2 ай бұрын
Am old, can confirm much of your real world research. Cell phones were around for a while before they were traceable,which I remember some politicians called tyrannical, and by the turn of the millennium, it felt like everyone had a website. So your timeline works out.
@TheUltimaWerewolf5
@TheUltimaWerewolf5 2 ай бұрын
This is the unknown Matpat.
@vizzzyy190
@vizzzyy190 2 ай бұрын
not gonna lie dittophobia feels so important but at the same time i feel like a lot of theorists ignored it beyond the whole nightmare gas stuff
@malucart
@malucart 2 ай бұрын
For me, that's because its implications suck and make FNAF 4 make less sense
@joshuamcgonagle5455
@joshuamcgonagle5455 2 ай бұрын
You really should make a video about Elizabeth's death.
@Takejiro24
@Takejiro24 2 ай бұрын
I can't remember who exactly mentioned it; but, someone pointed out that the wallpaper in Help Wanted 1's recreation of FNAF 4 is similar (if not the same) as the one Michael's house in Sister Location (and his room in Security Breach) even though the FNAF 4 Nights House had its own orange wallpaper. I'm not entirely sure what that could mean but maybe that the FNAF 4 house and Michael's house in SL were more connected than we thought? A retcon? Maybe he never left the too far from the facility at the end of his shifts? Was that what Dittophobia was telling us even though you said the Dittophobia house isn't real? Guess that would explain how Ennard was able to find Michael in the Fake Ending.
@Wiworgsh273
@Wiworgsh273 3 ай бұрын
I think Cakebear doesn't even need to be another partner. The posters of Freddy in Fredbears could just explain why there is a springlock Freddy suit (Cakebear) assuming Cakebear is a springlock suit and isn't Fredbear
@Angermations
@Angermations 3 ай бұрын
In Curse of Dreadbear's Pirate Ride minigame, you go *though the FNAF2 location* in the secret tracks, which also features the Jack-O's.
@royaloreo1275
@royaloreo1275 3 ай бұрын
Also you're nice to listen to and your theories are cool.
@royaloreo1275
@royaloreo1275 3 ай бұрын
Im gonna be waiting for more wow theories, because it's cool to hear lore from the thing that inspired hearthstone
@gucciganglilaku
@gucciganglilaku 3 ай бұрын
Quite late but amazing theory
@eiscreme3116
@eiscreme3116 3 ай бұрын
One thing I wanted to say about the security log book and Micheal being the guy from fnaf 1 In the book there's nightmare fredbear drawn my Michael and because he might be the one experiencing it either enduced from his brother or as a dream the gameplay is way to similar to fnaf 1 to be just be a coincidence so the protag of fnaf 4 needs some experience from fnaf 1 so Micheal would make sense
@eiscreme3116
@eiscreme3116 3 ай бұрын
But it's a really good video :3
@Trontotario
@Trontotario 9 күн бұрын
He’s experiencing his brother’s dreams because of remnant
@eiscreme3116
@eiscreme3116 3 ай бұрын
23:16 What you mean fnaf world is largely uncannon It ties into a bunch from fnaf 3, ultimate custom night and even ruin So why would it be noncanon?
@royaloreo1275
@royaloreo1275 3 ай бұрын
Good thing I looked in comments before saying the same thing as you. Also: Old man consequences is in ucn, which is regarded as canon Vanny mask from ruin working in a similar way to flipside (entering an abstract world which let's you teleport around in the "real" world) The creator of games in fnaf world fitting in with the Scott lookalike from help wanted.
@remnantballsofficial
@remnantballsofficial 4 ай бұрын
Love that you brought up henry's speech. I had always just interpreted to mean it was meant for literally anybody else other than Michael but this is such a great point about it
@abdel-azizs5720
@abdel-azizs5720 5 ай бұрын
I read the title is the third printer
@thebuddycompany2252
@thebuddycompany2252 5 ай бұрын
You know, freddy may just be a irrelevant employee with a prototype springlock freddy suit, and the job was intended for the last living afton Edit: Michael was thought to by dead
@CreeperokGames
@CreeperokGames 5 ай бұрын
You know what would be funny? What if we used the theory about S. Freddy in fnaf 3 minigames is a suit worn and add that it was the crumpled cakebear/Freddy's suit. In that case William could be in every owner's suits(I believe that W. G. Freddy was used in DCI for it to be true).
@akpen8755
@akpen8755 6 ай бұрын
Stripping everything down and reexamination is exactly what the fan base needs to do. I only ever got into this franchise because I liked the Sci fi direction it started going with Sister Location as I never found it interesting before that. I have appreciation for that stuff now but still I like the goofy aspects and just wanted to see where the franchise went the more insane the better. But even still consuming/enjoying something for this long no matter the reason you start to get invested and I think people are too focused on the perceived details rather than what is actually shown and try to reverse engineer things to fit the "true intent" rather than actually look at things from a further perspective. Love seeing stuff like your channel and the reexamination of the logbook that has been going on recently. It's just refreshing
@wynterwolfrose228
@wynterwolfrose228 6 ай бұрын
I would pose the idea that Freddy in the take cake mini game is just Freddy from the first game but I can’t deny the 70’s Freddy being in existence but what if I brought up fall fest and 70’ Freddy being just an animatronic/ suit a person is in to take ice cream to kids at the event. We do have a fall fest 1970 poster and 70’s Freddy would fit
@MxMe-su1ch
@MxMe-su1ch 7 ай бұрын
I think it is Edwin, and that he is the inventor of endoskeletons. Without him, the Freddy's IP was solely costumes, animatronics, and springlock suits. Edwin was the true genius, and the other two basically stole his brainchild.
@BlankEmporium
@BlankEmporium 5 ай бұрын
That would be a massive spit in the face of fans. Like, imagine the Dark Knight trilogy except it's revealed in the Dark Knight Rises that Lucius Fox didn't built the Bat tech but instead some random guy named Brian who was never mentioned before.
@MxMe-su1ch
@MxMe-su1ch 5 ай бұрын
@BlankEmporium I'm not so sure I agree, because there are three distinct technological elements in FNAF lore. Animatronics, or robots without AI. Springlock suits, and endoskeletons. This could also set up The Mimic as the original endoskeleton. I can understand you feeling like it is poor writing, but I think it expands and refines the lore myself.
@zenvariety9383
@zenvariety9383 3 ай бұрын
​@@MxMe-su1chNever played the games or read the books, but I'm certain that they'll need to adapt some of the newer books into games to flesh out the story. Not everyone will read the books. Not to mention adapting the books into games could add more context.
@Peepaw_Afton_Art
@Peepaw_Afton_Art 7 ай бұрын
The book also calls Bon-Bon a girl but then says that Bonnet is the first girl Bonnie. It also says Bon-Bon shows up in Fnaf 3 and Nightmare Foxy is in UCN.
@Chill_Channel5
@Chill_Channel5 7 ай бұрын
One thing I would like to point out is that Michael is actually confirmed to be Williams son in sister location at the very end cut scene he specifically says "Father, it's me Michael" and if the crying child's sister is Elizabeth the crying child would be related to Michael and William
@lawrencecalderwood
@lawrencecalderwood 7 ай бұрын
Wait Michael Afton was confirmed to be the foxy bro in the ultimate guide actually way before that
@ryandyer3466
@ryandyer3466 8 ай бұрын
It might be Fritz Smith on night 5 of FNaF 2 Phone Guy mentions tracking down the owners of Fredbear’s Family Diner. Funnily enough the name Fritz was originally a nickname of Fredrick
@wynterwolfrose228
@wynterwolfrose228 6 ай бұрын
👀😳 interesting
@Sr_Noir
@Sr_Noir 23 күн бұрын
Well, Phone Guy's name is Ralph. So, no
@ChaCha-playlists
@ChaCha-playlists 8 ай бұрын
Massive video length, haha, I watch spiffs 16 hour streams
@УкраїнаПовнаАнімацій
@УкраїнаПовнаАнімацій 8 ай бұрын
You sound like phone guy XD
@candicechristinabravo8359
@candicechristinabravo8359 8 ай бұрын
The third was probably the puppet
@mubestvideos586
@mubestvideos586 8 ай бұрын
But if you see the paper pals from FNaF 2, u can see that the third partner was a humanoid character.
@_TheGoofball_
@_TheGoofball_ 8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be balloon boy. Balloon boy is humanoid, so..
@dylanhudec979
@dylanhudec979 8 ай бұрын
It could be the lame mimic 🙄
@Deevster
@Deevster 8 ай бұрын
If Freddy was around back in the 70s alongside Fredbear and Spring Bonnie, appears in the Cake minigame from FNAF 2, and is a springlock suit, I think the only other person who would know about them would be phone guy, though this is a stretch considering that Phone Guy doesn't even know what Fredbear's is in the FNAF 2 phone calls.
@Boolets-qv2nd
@Boolets-qv2nd 8 ай бұрын
He recorded the tapes for the springlock suits though, it could be him
@Poja_0811
@Poja_0811 2 ай бұрын
​@@Boolets-qv2nd or maybe not, they could just have the same voice, or maybe he's faking ignorance