Thank you very much! I was trying not to break the plastic too. great instructional. much appreciated.👍👍👍
@jerryseymour273812 күн бұрын
Kato passenger light kits are absolute junk!
@JBG19687 ай бұрын
Kato really does make their stuff user friendly
@LeonKolenda Жыл бұрын
Took me a while to get the hang of soldering, but it works very well. What I like is I can use black and red wire, and not have to use Kato blue and white wire. Also, this does not melt the plastic ballast or burn holes through it. Thanks!
@jimlawson4100 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps you should update your video.
@jimlawson4100 Жыл бұрын
Did you test Tam Valley DFJ?
@donmartin9567 Жыл бұрын
Yes I did and in fact I now have one installed. For me they worked as well as the more expensive PSX-AR and I'd have no trouble recommending them.
@itowbig Жыл бұрын
you know this would be much better if you showed how to wire it all up. there is no wiring how too's ? WHY ??? nice video except for the wiring how to....
@SPYDER990 Жыл бұрын
if you use that center hole in the pads and counter sink a tapered screw through into the car and put a light spring between the car bottom and the pad around the screw with a nut inside the car the pads would put a bit of down pressure on the pads...just be sure the weight of the car is more then the spring...don't want a lot of down pressure ....should glide along and the spring will ensure the pads are flat and keep even pressure!?
@chrisbarr1359 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Big help to me.
@bradandfudge Жыл бұрын
The link to the light video I mentioned earlier. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4PEopWKbdanm9U
@bradandfudge Жыл бұрын
Thank you Don for a fantastic triple video of how to install the Kato light kits. I've just bought a Kato Thalys n scale set which is more or less identical to yours when it comes to fitting lights. I've put lights before into other Kato sets and they look great but I've had more difficulty with this latest set. The height of the led unit is not precise in these coaches and I think I've pushed mine a bit too low down, but I can raise them a bit if necessary. However the one thing that I was not aware of, and you have solved it for me, was how to fit the clear plastic roof lenses into the body of the coaches. I didn't know that there were corresponding lugs and recesses in the lens and the window strips which when positioned all clipped into place. I learned something new today !! I'll take mine apart and try again, I have some spare lenses. I did put some tiny spots of superglue to hold the windows in place as I got fed up of them always falling out. One more thing, I think I noticed that you have the same problem as me, the end of the coach where the light is fitted is much brighter than the opposite end. I saw a KZbin video yesterday where someone has put a bit of black sticky tape over the led and the first bit of the lens and somehow it stops all that glare and diffuses the light further down the lens. I'll try it to see if it works. Thanks again for your patient and informative videos.
@sherlock1895 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip about the X26 paint. I’ve already placed my order. The paint should arrive Monday. It’s funny as I was thinking this morning if I could paint the LED. Cheers!
@sherlock1895 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see how the diffuser makes much difference. I want a more incandescent look in my Orient Express cars. Thoughts please? Cheers!
@donmartin9567 Жыл бұрын
The diffuser doesn't make a large difference but it definitely does make things look a bit "less white". Your other option would be to purchase a jar of Tamiya yellow or orange "clear" paint (eg X-26 clear orange). I've used this on other LEDs and it makes a big difference. You can get this from Amazon.
@sherlock1895 Жыл бұрын
@@donmartin9567 Thank you for the info. I’ve already ordered the paint you have suggested.
@sherlock1895 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video. It was helpful. If you could have someone work your camera that would really be great! Cheers.
@BritishRail60062 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I am going to be doing this in my model but I replace the capacitor with a 100uF 27v type as that removes the dangers of overload/blowout. I hope that Kato will consider moving over to Next18 boards and pre fit a speaker inside to make it more plug and play without any filing of LED's or milling. Here is a like from me.
@donmartin9567 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply.
@Nick-ui9lx Жыл бұрын
no capacitors are in there ? i think they are required, thanks
@donmartin9567 Жыл бұрын
I have no issue with flickering lights just using the base kits provided they are installed correctly and the wheels and track are clean. If you are running on dirty track or dirty wheels then a capacitor would help to avoid flicker but I don't consider them as "required". The biggest issue I've found is dirty wheels so when I set up and run a passenger train I look for flickering and if I see any, I clean the wheels and that restores electrical contact and "no flickering".
@Nick-ui9lx Жыл бұрын
@@donmartin9567 thanks a lot for your complete answer ... i thought it was inside the base of light bar you put on car's tail...the "square"....if not it's intersting because light is perfect. I've seen kato's train by chance ( very beautiful and cheap if you look at arnoldtrains speed train) so i took a look at installing lights...and it's strange they don't put a condensor inside because not everyone keeps tracks perfectly clean :) .... thanks a lot and Greetings from italy
@billclark81 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great tutorial.
@donmartin9567 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill, glad you liked it.
@benm23702 жыл бұрын
Which end of bar do you break off for the end car?
@paulsotheron7102 жыл бұрын
I have seen elsewhere that dcc voltage is too much for the motor. Do you know if that is correct?
@denniskamper27202 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don! Having done some of my Metra cab cars I was slightly perplexed with the lack of guidance, but you proved my suspicions correct and kept me from disassembling the car to find out!
@mrjsanchez12 жыл бұрын
This is the best demonstration, I have seen on installing these lights, the zoom feature really helped, one thing I did differently was put a strip on of aluminum foil on the inner ceiling of the car to help even out and reflect the lighting throughout the interior, the older Kato light kits used to come with a piece of reflective tape, I noticed the older kits had more even lighting in the cars because of that.
@KenGSamurai2 жыл бұрын
You make it look so simple. PS - Penticton Challenge? I've done IM Canada when it was in Penticton 3 times: 93, 96, and 98.
@donmartin95672 жыл бұрын
Yup "Challenge Penticton". The first year that Ironman and Penticton parted ways. And, "Challenge" is the group that puts on Challenge Roth. I've volunteered at both (supporting my son who is a para). The max I've done is a half-iron (Penticton and Calgary). Oh and as far as the train work, just take it slow and easy. :)
@acrranscaleandlifejourney43302 жыл бұрын
Thank you❤!
@ryholli52172 жыл бұрын
💪 𝓅𝓇o𝓂o𝓈𝓂
@marke.saunders48032 жыл бұрын
Looks like a bunch of fun!! Thanks for sharing and I look forward to seeing your next installment of the trailer build. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours my friend.
@donmartin95672 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark. The final build of the trailers will be out this coming Saturday. I really liked how these little guys went together and how they look. Future videos will show the "almost" final scene (nothing is ever 100% finished :) ).
@marke.saunders48032 жыл бұрын
@@donmartin9567 that is so true, there's always something else that needs something
@marke.saunders48032 жыл бұрын
Look forward to seeing the next installment of the conversion. Thanks for sharing
@donmartin95672 жыл бұрын
Coming soon! Working on more videos now. Stay tune, the next installment should release on Wednesday. Thanks for watching.
@discoverfloridatoday2 жыл бұрын
I got a 6 pack for $30 new and shipped in 2 days. What is up with Canada?
@donmartin95672 жыл бұрын
I was just at a hobby store and they wanted over C$60 for a 6 pack. However, I went online to "Plaza Japan" and paid under C$30 for a 6 pack. But, you have to pay for shipping. Sooooo, I also bought a Shinkansen, another set of lights and some decoders. Overall the "6 pack" ended up costing a fair amount :).
@stevehughes552 жыл бұрын
I just picked up the light kit for my Kato Silver Trains. I appreciate the time you spent on the install videos. They are helpful Thanks.
@donmartin95672 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
@andyrbush2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I had no clue from the instructions with the lights, plus the writing is too small for me to read easily.. For a start it wasn't obvious that the led was in that unit and not spaced out along the strip. Mind you as retired engineer from heavy machinery I am seriously struggling with N gauge parts. I can't even get the trains onto the track easily.
@donmartin95672 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy, I have a few of these videos of installing lights hopefully they help you out. I had to laugh at your lost comment. I am totally with you on trying to get my trains onto the track and I find it very frustrating. I use the blue Kato rerailer and find it works really well. I have 2 of them in my portable tool kit and at least one on each of my layouts plus another 1 or 2 on my work bench and I think a couple others still in their original packaging as spares. They are really cheap. The other thing that the club does is, for club modules, we often put in Atlas rerailer sections of track which help to put on trains and cars.
@andyrbush2 жыл бұрын
@@donmartin9567 I just tried putting the lights into a Kato Alegra. I failed. There seems no where to support the LED. Then the windows fell out of the body, and now the body won't go back on the chassis. I have packed up the track, and put the train back in the box. The set is free to a good home now .I have been making models of one sort or another since about age five, but nothing has been as frustrating or as impossible to work with as N gauge.
@donmartin95672 жыл бұрын
@@andyrbush Hmmmmm, I looked up the Kato Allegra set and it says that the lighting kit can be installed. Assuming they install like others then the light bar would snap into the ceiling between the windows (so a bit finicky) and if you look at the ends of the cars (with the tops off) you should see where the copper strips can go in and where the LED will go. Without having a set of these I can't really tell as some Kato passenger cars are different from others. If you want to dispose of the set you have I'd be happy to take them off your hands, you can send me an email at "[email protected]". Thanks.
@andyrbush2 жыл бұрын
@@donmartin9567 I sent you an email and can mail the train to you.
@1Klooch2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was a lot of work! Thanks for the info. I only need one.
@seanpacificrailroad37002 жыл бұрын
Hi don you have a great channel im definitely subscribing look forward to more updates of your layout your videos are very helpful thanks 👍
@Deltabravo6043 жыл бұрын
Super helpful, thank you for posting
@thelic41713 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Don, I'm in the process of doing two of these conversions before committing to all six of my engines. I see a lot of people dislike this decoder because of its weak sound, but I find that reprogramming it with one of John McMasters projects helped it a bunch. I do think that it provides better sound left under the hood as you have done rather than in the fuel tank as it drastically improved the volume when the hood is installed.
@1870movie3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This video is very helpful.
@tonymays61943 жыл бұрын
😒 Promo SM!
@lanceallen10003 жыл бұрын
So you cleaned everything off. Don’t you need to regrease everything?
@donmartin95673 жыл бұрын
Most engines only need very little lubricant and I prefer to use oil over grease. If I can see grease in the gears that means there is "too much". Also, the gears are a plastic and somewhat "self lubricating" in the plastic is already slippery. If I were to here a loco making noise (drivetrain) I'd take it apart, clean and just use some really light oil to lubricate it.
@Tandor693 жыл бұрын
could you extend the wires for the capacitor so it will reach the back of the loco frame?
@donmartin95673 жыл бұрын
Sure, longer wires wouldn't be an issue. The issue would be whether the Capacitor will fit or not. Digitrax uses different sized capacitors (physical size, all seem to be 100uF) and in some cases doesn't even use one. Doing this kind of work is a bit of "try it and see". Digitrax warranties their decoders for a year so if you screw it up you can get it replaced but if you are drilling / milling the frame and screw it there isn't much you can do.
@theotherroad66543 жыл бұрын
Don, your instructional videos are excellent! Photography is perfect and your narration is very professional. I thank you for taking the time to help us all in the hobby.
@MrTech2three3 жыл бұрын
How do you keep the lights from flickering?
@donmartin95673 жыл бұрын
Tough to do. The small prongs that attach on the LED have to have a really good contact with the vertical copper strips but those copper strips like to slide so that the prongs touch on the outside and that'll cause flicker. Over time, especially if you carry your cars around (like to shows), the vibration can cause the prongs to slip as well. If you see the lights flickering you'll need to take the top of the car off and reposition the prongs over the copper strips. I think the REAL solution would be to solder a pickup wire from the copper strip to prong. I've modified one passenger car I have to have rear red lights and those LEDs are soldered to the copper strips that run the length of the car - ZERO flicker of any kind.
@patrickhanosh59903 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done this with a SD70Ace
@sexypeety54753 жыл бұрын
everything was fine until he used electrical tape. amateur. NEVER put electrical tape in a locomotive.
@drosera883 жыл бұрын
Really don't understand why BLI went with this pickup scheme. For the price you pay you'd think they could use bearings for pickup rather than what amounts to glorified wiper pickup.
@NHseacoast3 жыл бұрын
Good for you! I have a tough time just getting the front coupler on
@Stanf9543 жыл бұрын
I always strip down any used engine first thing before it go on the layout. Most of the time it just needs to have the excess oil and grease removed but sometimes you find hair, fur, dust bunnies, thread caught up in the mechanics and trucks. Yuck.
@charlesmitchell4874 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks! will this work on an F7? Thanks again. (Your newest subscriber)
@donmartin95674 жыл бұрын
The F3s are smaller than the F7s so it "should" work. If you check out the digitrax site, it has a decoder selector spreadsheet where you can put in your engine manufacturer and the engine and it'll tell you what decoders will work (both sound and non-sound). The issue for sound is you need to find a space for the speaker and small capacitor.
@SpecterSix4 жыл бұрын
Hello I'm looking to get this locomotive but before I do I would like to know if there is space to install a sound decoder? You think it would fit? Thank you :)
@Gaz38014 жыл бұрын
I bought a BLI NW2 and it is a dog. When it wants to move, it does for about an inch, then stops. It has turned me away from BLI, although I'll give your method of 'improving the running qualities' a go.
@Melo_Andromeda4 жыл бұрын
2:30 track switch where did you get it or what is the name
@donmartin95674 жыл бұрын
The turnouts are all Peco, the "switch" that I use are "Caboose Industries Ground Throw" - an example is at: www.walthers.com/operating-ground-throw-135-quot-travel-rigid. I painted the small block at the top green on one side, indicating that it is thrown in the "through route - mainline" and red on the other indicating the secondary route. I used nail polish as "paint" and put on about 3 coats. The Nail polish adheres well and stays nice and bright. In order to secure the ground throw, I glued down some cork (may have used 2 layers when necessary), then when dry, glued the ground throw down onto the cork and secured with some small track nails. Then painted the cork grey to simulate concrete.
@Melo_Andromeda4 жыл бұрын
@@donmartin9567 Thank you i seen this in Germany the was a layout and i was amazed
@garyrunnalls77144 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@majorkursk7804 жыл бұрын
Too bad Aztec trains does not mill n scale frames any longer