I know I’m late to the conversation but I want moonpaw to be traumatized and depresssed feeling horrible every day never getting to make friends or be happy getting manipulated by the dark forest or starclan I just like depressed protags because I like to relate to them
@Tunawolf_edits3 ай бұрын
Idk why but I’m annoyed that people are already making maps abt her and stuff it’s just annoys me idk why
@Itz_Life_Star4 ай бұрын
Is it just me or does anyone else find it a little weird when they draw moonpaw with two heads? It might even be an interesting AU but I still think it's "weird" (I didn't find any better word to describe it), because it's like draw JayFeather as deaf instead of blind, It's two diferent things *(I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just don't think it makes much sense do moonpaw like two heads)*
@Skystarry754 ай бұрын
You know who would've made a great dad for Moonpaw? Stormcloud! He was born outside the clans and hasn't taken a mate. As for the mom, Finchlight hasn't had kits, and is also a tortie. She's also the granddaughter of the current leader and the previous leader, and the great-granddaughter to the leader before that. Edit: As a side note, they were smart about ensuring Moonpaw appeared as a chimera. Chimeras don't have to be of 2 different biological sexes. It's also possible for the apparent parts to be solely comprised of one part of the chimera. But her eyes are yellow and green, when non-chimeric heterochromia would cause one to be blue.
@MizzyMiz4 ай бұрын
I love the idea of chimeraism, and what they said in the article was so wrong it saddened me, she can still be a chimera but I'd like the actuall right information and not to feed into the myths and crap, I sometimes wanna see images of actual chimeras but i just get split faced cats, in who some may be chimeras but most just aren't. One thing I like is green and yellow eyes usually heterochromia in cats is caused by white spotting the same thing that causes white patches but in the eye making the eye blue so any other eyecolour + blue white spotting eye. Chimeras doesn't have to even be visible but I'm going to make it visible in my designs to try and show what chimeraism can actually make cats look like. I'd like to remove the half half face, but its important to hers so. With that being said heres some of my headcannon ideas: 1. her ginger fur is actually a dilute form of the red cats like rowanclaw, squirrelflight and russetfur are sometimes depicted with. (not that this is an actual fur colour but like this colour doesn't exist anyway irl so we are already disregarding logic) 2. She actually has two types of black fur one the kind that just looks black and 2 the kind that looks a deep red in some light. (my least favourite ngl, due to the orange being depicted so light) 3. While her parents do mean she is meant to be a tortie she actually fused with her brother who has dilute orange, and is the cause of her lighter orange markings and is why they aren't truly white. (absolutely ridiculus but its not exactly impossible) 4. She has patches of shorter fur hidden in from the sibling she fused with, these do not usually show as its covered by the longer fur but sometimes, you can see patches of shorter fur from her fused sibling. (chimera cats are fully able to have multiple fur lenghts not just colours!) 5. she has more of one colour one being due to fusing with a brother of that colour. (while this isn't really what happens all the time, a half and half of colours is very very rare, its fun to think off) Also the intersex idea hit me tho i've not heard of it before and and I'm all for it now so shes fused with her brother in my head lol.
@sexygirlmax20194 ай бұрын
ah hell nah i made a character that is a split face medicine cat that gets spoken to in her dreams by her father though she think hes from starclan. i gotta change at least something about her otherwise im never beating the moonpaw allegations....this is a cruel joke from starclan itself 😅
@Wuffmoon0124 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed your video on the topic! I do think the idea of Moonpaw being intersex and a fusion chimera is a great design choice, but also approaching it in a careful manner. I think Warrior cat topics turning controversial due to fan discussion is a common thing, but should still be discussed of carefully.
@ebplayspiano11684 ай бұрын
Wait what book is she introduced in?
@Rudymentarie4 ай бұрын
The first book of the upcoming arc Changing Skies- It's not out yet, the last book of the current arc has to come out still later this year, and the book Moonpaw features in will come out after that. She's not born yet as of now
@ebplayspiano11684 ай бұрын
@Rudymentarie , tysm!
@alyssasowell7744 ай бұрын
Let MoonxMoonpool be the new JayxStick please, thank you
@meevins4 ай бұрын
they're not remotely comparable tbh because jay x stick was always a joke. it was never serious or supposed to be taken as such when moon x moonpool is the complete opposite of that. feels a bit mean based on how much love, effort and care people have put into the ship to act is if they're on the same level.
@claudiahyde16564 ай бұрын
The thing is she might not be a chimera. A common misconception about chimeras is that if a cat has a half black face and half ginger face it’s a chimera, but this is imply a patter that calicos and tortoiseshells can have without being chimeras. Chimeras often show through two colours that normally shouldn’t go together or two different fur lengths.
@zoethelynx_6254 ай бұрын
The only thing I have to say about that is the writing team is telling the audience that Moonpaw is a chimera, they want her to be a chimera, and she’s characterized to be different than the normal cat’s appearance. The clans have seen plenty of torties and calicos, and yet Moonpaw is an oddity from the get go. It’s like going to an artist and reflecting how their cat art looks like a dog, and arguing how their oc is actually a dog
@Rudymentarie4 ай бұрын
Yes, I did go over this in the video, but chimera cats can also look like just about anything, including a split face tortie or an entirely normal appearing cat
@buntbunx92804 ай бұрын
i really wish they had made her fernstripe and shellfur's daughter :(
@Cranberries4Crows5 ай бұрын
I know somebody is was inbred, and I would just like to remind people that THEY DID NOT CHOOSE THIS. It is typically their parent's stupid decisions, and sometimes it is purely accidental, or not consensual for an inbred person to be conceived. She was often subjected to bullying and such due to the origins of her birth and stuff. She felt ashamed for it, even though she had zero control over it. It was really heartbreaking because she is active in the fandom. The other day she called me crying because of some of the things people were saying about moonpaw. It's not okay, it doesn't matter if it's a fictional character. It's bigoted and gross, and people honestly need to THINK with their minds. ALSIO the ableism that came alongside this was insane. WHY ARE PEOPLE SO COMFORTABLE WITH SAYING THIS CRAP?
@hawktalon78903 ай бұрын
Warriors fandom has unfortunately been ableist since the beginning, unfortunately.
@thesnoopysharkx5 ай бұрын
I think the voice is Skystar, I dont think we have seen them in Starclan and maybe hes a liitle nuts and thats why the voice is described as sinister!
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
He actually spoke in the prologue of thunder, one of the recent ASC books
@LuunaFoxx5 ай бұрын
INTERSEX MOONPAW FOR LIFE 💛💜
@jewels9365 ай бұрын
Moonpaw would’ve been a good fit for a kit of Fernstripe and Shellfur, if Sunbeam and Nightheart weren’t going to pan out.
@buntbunx92804 ай бұрын
i was thinking the same thing! they could have even given her her grandpa's golden-ginger and mom's gray for a more obvious chimera since non-diluted ginger (which gold is kinda close to) and gray cannot exist on the same cat without it being some sort of mutation such as chimerism ^w^
@jewels9364 ай бұрын
@@buntbunx9280 that would be a really pretty color palette! And a lot more moon-like.
@meevins4 ай бұрын
she was obviously supposed to be a sunnight kid but it feels as if they changed her parents randomly at the very last second? incest aside it just feels like such a weird choice
@FlubbCat4 ай бұрын
I wish they did this sm!!!! Then the bloodline would start to get less connected lol
@Shadowfate935 ай бұрын
One of the more famous human chimeras is Lydia Fairchild, who had her kids taken away from her because they did a DNA test that said she wasn't their mother. It wasn't until she had her last child and a social worker witnessed the birth and the taking of a DNA sample that ALSO came back negative was it discovered that Lydia's reproduction system had Different DNA. The social workers then retested her children against DNA taken from Lydia's uterus that all came back positive, and then she was finally given her children back
@honeycreek37135 ай бұрын
I feel like Cloudstar will definitely be a part of this! In his short book, Maybe even the voice, trying to make a change before the others end up like his clan. It’s similar to the story. His clan got destroyed from damages of Two-legs, and nobody believes her at all, nor changes something, as they are done with apprentices that have a lot of mindset to being special, and a cat from a clan such as some random Windclan cat, like Crowfeather, who is a ton more wise, and also OLD, like the title of this Ark. Moonpaw ends up going on a quest with a bunch of elders, in the same concept as Sandstorm and Alderpaw. Moonpaw rebels, and acts like an apprentice. Yes, traveling- but Elders are so fun to explore more! It’s like angst, but old cats. A concept, Sunbeam and Nightheart have a kit, and don’t want moon, and give her to her parents?? But, Cloudstar is very important, as it is the same plot, and I feel like Frostpaw will help Moonpaw, and probably even could be a protagonist, wanting Moonpaw to not “Ruin her life” like she did, and to simply stay out of it. A unintentional protagonist, but still affecting, keeping the cycle of abuse as a point of concern and drama. Moonpaw might end up being snarky and reluctant fully, immature.
@catpool365 ай бұрын
family tree or a family circle
@l4mp1n4t10n5 ай бұрын
i'm actually theorizing that the voice could be related to the fact that moonpaw could be an actual conjoined twin. mostly because the hunter team has no idea how genes work, with her heterochromia and half-mask pattern on her head.
@iridiumSerpent5 ай бұрын
I really hope not because I don't trust the Erin's to handle it appropriately
@Mooon765235 ай бұрын
I’ve been Moon bc of warrior cats since I was a small child. Now the protagonist is Moonpaw. My inner child is screaming and crying in joy rn
@Jupiterisinsane5 ай бұрын
Jakeyfur? Uhmmmm
@axtxmn5635 ай бұрын
I have an au that MoonPaws voice in her head are her own insecurities crashing onto her as she tries to be better and more successful in her clan, and her so called “ connection to StarClan “ is making her seem special and more useful by other cats, causing them to pressure her more and adding to the weight. Eventually MoonPaw struggles so much with the burden it fails and she has a mental breakdown. As the voice becomes even more sinister, as it says, she eventually figures something is trying to reach her and bare her to following in this mysterious voices tracks. The pressure had caused her towards insanity, and one day out of pure hatred she could either kill a cat or damage the Moonpool.
@RavCat5 ай бұрын
Oh did you make her a shorthair / longhair chimera?! (Havent finished the video yet, but its very good so far!)
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
Yes! In my design, the orange parts are longhair and the black parts are shorthair
@RavCat5 ай бұрын
@Rudymentarie that's so cute and unique! I love it (and it's nice to see it, I don't see many chimera designs take advantage of that possibility)
@Thebeezzkneezz.5 ай бұрын
Seen "moonpaw" and immediately thoguht of drawfee
@duck_is_lord5 ай бұрын
I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAD TO SCROLL DOWN SO FAR TO FIND THIS
@FireflyOnyx5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already, but Squirrelflight's Hope was not reprinted, we were lied to.
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
This is super concerning if true- I looked into this briefly after seeing this comment and did find some people discussing it, including at least one person who bought the book and confirmed the line was still there afterwards, though nothing very recent. I could have easily missed something, but I really hope they did remove the line, just later on than expected. It would be nice if somebody who just recently bought the book could confirm or not. I'm probably giving them too much credit here, but it would be seriously egregious if they really never removed the line, showing both how little they actually care about the opinions of the readers or the contested subject as well as their willingness to lie to us.
@SleepyCoffeeCup5 ай бұрын
I am very sure it has not been reprinted. I personally dont own squirreflights hope yet so i could make it the next book i am ordering to double check and inform later about it.
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
@@SleepyCoffeeCup Please let us know if you do!!
@gliscorpropagandaaccount17645 ай бұрын
@@Rudymentarie It could do with the original printing still being in stock
@welpisasilkwing5755 ай бұрын
Love this lil silly, Moonpaw / Moonpool is the greatest au I've seen!
@inkylynx27775 ай бұрын
For some more evidence on the split-face tortoiseshell pattern being an uncommon phenomenon, the tumblr blog felinefractious has tagged the pattern whenever it shows up!
@Overlord93325 ай бұрын
Honestly I love this kind of video! And the way you draw Moonpaw is absolutely adorable
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
Ty!!
@falcon_arkaig5 ай бұрын
Moonpaw! I've already fallen in love with this character. Here's my idea for the special gal: Moonpaw is the daughter of Bayshine, though nobody knows who her mother is. Some speculate that, despite the rule changes, Bayshine had a half clan relationship and the she-cat entrusted Bayshine with their only daughter. Moonpaw was named after her unique facial pattern that looked like a crescent moon (like in canon). Moonpaw is a bit spoiled, as her father and great grandmother (Cinderheart) treated her like she was the most special cat in the clans. She loved all the attention, but starting when she became a Warrior apprentice her thoughts started to become darker. Flashes of her killing certain clanmates haunted her, just like her great Grandfather Lionblaze. She goes to the Moonpool for advice from Starclan, but something else gets her attention. The Moonpool looks...a bit weird. Her reflection seemingly moving on its own. Although as she looks deeply into the Moonpool to figure it out, it starts talking to her. Using her reflection no less. It tells her it can help with her intrusive thoughts and unwanted visions. So. Moon after moon, even when the water is being poisoned and the Moonpool gets weaker, Moonpaw still visits. Still goes out of her way to talk to the Moonpool. Going to the Moonpool is the only thing that helps her mental health, even if it's unhealthy. Eventually, the Moonpool asks Moonpaw a favor. Moonpaw needs to consume the water of the Moonpool in order to save it.
@falcon_arkaig5 ай бұрын
I wanna add something as I am on Tumblr. I posted my current reference sheet for Moonpaw and I added "The voices in her head tell her to kill cats" line to the reference. So, to my surprise, someone sent me an ask basically saying that I was spreading harmful stereotypes against mentally ill people. I was shocked, of course, because that wasn't my intention. I guess maybe I should've explained better exactly what I meant by that line. In my story Moonpaw was horrible intrusive thoughts of killing certain clanmates that might annoy her. I based his off of my intrusive thoughts, as some of mine make me imagine myself k*lling people that annoy me. Even though I have these thoughts I'd never wanna commit any of those acts, as Moonpaw also wouldn't want to either. And even if it wasn't about intrusive thoughts, saying "ur spreading harmful stereotypes against mentally ill people" to me is stupid. The "voices in her head tell her to kill cats" could've easily been a Starclan or Dark Forest cat telling her that. I don't understand why this person automatically jumped to the conclusion they did when even in the canon blurb we have it says that Moonpaw has sinister voices in her head.
@mooneatsworms5 ай бұрын
HELPPPP THE CHANNEL ICON JUST APPEARING ON UR AVATARS FACE VAUGHT ME SO OFF GUARD 😭😭😭
@Mintykingg5 ай бұрын
I see some people saying that they wanted Moonpaw to be a villain. But I believe that with people *already* thinking and headcanoning that Moonpaw has dissociative identity disorder.. that is a horrible and god awful idea. Writing a 'villain' who is more than one person can very quickly stigmatize dissociative disorders. Whether they're written to actually have the disorder or not.
@falcon_arkaig5 ай бұрын
I had this idea for a "Villain" Moonpaw that didn't really involve the whole DID thing. First, Moonpaw doesn't have DID or anything. Second, Sol. Sol had a daughter (Moonpaw) that he sent to join the clans. Her father told her stories about the clans and purposefully made them look bad. When she did join the clans Bayshine or Thriftear adopted her. She doesn't kill cats, no. Her dad specifically told her to not kill anyone, as that could easily blow her "cover". It's kind of a One-eye Star Flower type situation. Though Moonpaw is more manipulative and ends up turning the clans against each other (with the unknowing help of Tawnypelt and Leafstar!)
@Mintykingg5 ай бұрын
@@falcon_arkaigI think that is actually a very interesting idea! My only gripe to be honest is with the people who will take the idea of her and her fused sibling and use the stereotypical 'evil' personality and 'good' personality trope. WHICH IS UNFORTUNATELY something that I have already seen with original characters that are similar to Moonpaw in nature.
@falcon_arkaig5 ай бұрын
@@Mintykingg I just think ppl don't understand how Chimerism works. The fusing process usually happens way before a different "person" (or cat in this case) would form. If Moonpaw did have DID canonically I don't trust the authors to portray it correctly unless that actually had a System on the writing team to help out.
@Mintykingg5 ай бұрын
@@falcon_arkaigI agree! I am so glad that we were able to have this discussion. It's so refreshing to see someone both have their own opinion and share their thoughts on mine. As a system, it is very exhausting to see neurotypical and non-system writers write characters like that without research or care.
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
I think this really depends on what route they go with in the actual book. I really like the idea of a protagonist going through a villainous or more morally grey arc, but I do agree that if she does end up as something resembling a system, it would be a bad route to take. I already hope the authors don't take that route not only because they would almost certainly handle it extremely poorly, but because they've already described the voice as 'sinister'. I do think it's more likely though that it will just end up being another dark forest cat, in which case her having a negative character arc would probably be fine
@Daisythepage5 ай бұрын
I absolutely adore how you’ve made her so big and fluffy I just want to snuggle her 😭 I think it would be cool to make a dilute-tortie/nondilute-tortie design for moonpaw Or a colorpoint-tortie/tortie design based off of the other signs of chimerism on the chart :3 Also I love how the intersex community has embraced her she’s so cute!
@Daisythepage5 ай бұрын
14:49 one case of someone being a chimera and not even knowing it that I was first educated about chimeras on was a case where this one lady had to get a dna test with the kids she gave birth to for some reason They didn’t match her dna and there was a bunch of legal trouble because of it and then she found out(after lots of dna tests) one of her ovaries was her ‘sister’ and that the other was her dna, it was a really interesting documentary! Anyways I think only one of her kids was from her ovary the other two were from the other ovary that had the other zygotes dna.
@justagirlwearingglasses5 ай бұрын
that family tree isn't even a tree, it's a wreath-
@Starlit_Onion5 ай бұрын
NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOO 😭😭😭
@CheeseThePurpleDragon5 ай бұрын
OHHHH THATS SUCH A GOOD DESCRIPTION LOL
@bluejay6235 ай бұрын
oh my god this video is based take after based take wow........ thank you warrior cats youtuber
@CadaverCoyote5 ай бұрын
When i saw this character my first thought was "I want this cat to be a villain."
@weirdbutokaydude5 ай бұрын
I'M NOT ALONE
@Sam-ow9fe5 ай бұрын
Yes, and that it is a medicine cat or at least an apprentice. It's time for a villain, Not only a protagonist, but one who is a medicine cat. I know we already have Podlight, But it doesn't count for much, so it would be refreshing a villain like that
@insertnamehere19035 ай бұрын
honestly the idea of her being a Sol reincarnation could be a good way for her to be a villain (that’s also a med cat), but tbh no matter the route I just need a main series evil protagonist
@soggypotatochip5 ай бұрын
Her warrior name should be MoonShade or MoonFace
@CadaverCoyote5 ай бұрын
@@soggypotatochip I bet they're gonna call her something stupid like Moonpelt or Moonfur I kinda want her name to be Moonpool to symbolize her connection to it. But that's just my personal take.
@Elkriens5 ай бұрын
i absolutely love how you draw moonpaw. its very pleasing to look at and the shapes are perfect
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@lj26595 ай бұрын
My wish is that Moonpaw is spoiled, proud, and rude and is a horrible friend and is bratty. It would be great to see cats suck up to her, and other cats despise her to her "specialness". I would also love for her to become an antagonist
@catcatcat1245 ай бұрын
Perfectheart lore
@lunazstarchaser5 ай бұрын
ugh yEEEEESSS, I LOVE characters that break away from the common main-character-trope like that
@IcestarZ5 ай бұрын
@@catcatcat124 OMG PERFECTHEART REAL
@catcatcat1245 ай бұрын
@@IcestarZ yuh
@Daisythepage5 ай бұрын
Ooo I would love a sandpaw-like moonpaw where she straight up bullies the other aprentices
@LocalLolbiit5 ай бұрын
Right time to inform the authors yall
@evacarrico34465 ай бұрын
Though I think that the authors definitely could've worded that article better and chose the parents better (even though unless her father was stormcloud or wafflepaw or her parents were nightheart and sunbeam she would've been inbred anyway), I don't see any inherent problem with her being a chimera a huge percentage of the population are chimeras albeit a different type
@ceruleanstarbreak34445 ай бұрын
Thank you for informing people and I love the intersex moonpaw headcanon and i am stealing it and you can pry it from my cold dead hands. I love this lil creature! They/She is my thoughts! (I love when I can reasonably headcanon a cat with They Pronouns. Don't get me started on my He/They Crowfeather and She/They/He Ivypool) I hope we get more things cleared up and hopefully the incest thing gets changed? I already felt weird with Ivypool and Fernsong(their relationship is rather sweet though) and this is... a little rough. I have a friend who likes warrior cats and who lives in Alabama they have a bit of trauma with that and generally don't look at the family tree but since the discussion of Moonpaw is EVERYWHERE right now it's making them uncomfortable :( They do like Moonpaw a lot and I do too! Funky lil silly. And since I headcanon Dovewing with heterochromia(she has blue/green imo) I can imagine them being heterochromia buddies! Thank you also for pointing out the idea of the voice hopefully not being just some other part of herself. I have DID and with all due respect... I don't really trust the writers to do anything like that... I love that moonpool idea though, tasty! Anyway, good video, sorry for the rant I'm in a writing mood-
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
No worries, reading comments is one of the best parts about making videos!! I absolutely love people accepting her as intersex, and I greatly enjoy seeing her gender identity played around with as well. It's certainly something I've thought of myself, though I have my own sort of complex version of that in my mind. I really do hope they will change the parents, there are so many better options right now and they surely must have seen how poorly people think of it considering how widely that topic has spread. They could even have them adopt Moonpaw instead, which could allow them to extend Ivypool's family line, if that's something they'd wanted, without these issues. However, we already know they've treated adoption weirdly in the past. Disappointing. I completely agree with you on the DID thing as well. If we could have a character with DID who would be guaranteed to be portrayed completely respectfully and without any misinformation or fearmongering, I'd take it in an instant. But there's seriously no way the writers wouldn't take that topic and absolutely butcher it. It's very unfortunate because I believe people with dissociative disorders need and would love proper representation in the media they consume, but so often it just ends up doing far more harm than good.
@TheOneandOnlyR0zieP0zey5 ай бұрын
They should've just had her be Nightheart and Sunbeam's kit, it would've been absolutely perfect.
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
genuinely
@Daisythepage5 ай бұрын
This would make a good au :3 this is actually so perfect fr
@TheOneandOnlyR0zieP0zey5 ай бұрын
@@Daisythepage Ikr, they're both very special cats and them being the parents of a very unique kit would make so much more sense than two random characters they decided to pull from a raffle.
@Daisythepage5 ай бұрын
@@TheOneandOnlyR0zieP0zey yeah, I’m convinced warriorcats sometimes throws darts at a cork board to determine parentage sometimes 😔
@Steamedcatfish5 ай бұрын
I've been headcannon'ing the idea that it is Nightheart and Sunbeam's kit secretly. While it doesn't make perfect sense I will still guard this headcannon that Moonpaw is adopted with my life.
@lunazstarchaser5 ай бұрын
Is this seriously your first longlength video (on this channel)??? this is a really good breakdown/analysis! you have a new sub!
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
Thank you, and yes! This is my first time ever speaking on anything like this
@LoopsAndLops5 ай бұрын
wait when i watched this i thought this channel had alot of subs and this vid was really popular- new sub earned because this video is amahzin' :D
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
Tysm!!!!
@almondsun5 ай бұрын
Absolutely ADORE your entire commentary!!! It's immersive, wonderfully organised and insightful! + Love your design process as well, very hyped to see more content!!! <333 ❤️
@Rudymentarie5 ай бұрын
Thank you sm!!! I worked really hard on this, so I'm so glad to hear it's come off well!! <3333