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@ryandavis317
@ryandavis317 15 сағат бұрын
Everything sounds good! A few questions: What is your Tom mix??? Them joints sanging! What level do your subs set on the speaker on the back? Do you have them set to Live or Music?
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 14 сағат бұрын
@@ryandavis317 Long Read Alert Honestly I think I had the toms a tinch too high on this gig. But I have low cut at around 70hz, small 4+ db boost at it’s resonant frequency, wide cut/dip at 250 hz (cut completely), minor dip around 500-650 hz, mid wide boost at 4k about 6+ db. That’s just the high Tom. Low cut and resonance boost varies for each Tom, High Tom panned about 40% to right, mid Tom 15% right, low Tom 25% left. Low Tom is in the sub heavy. Gate opens 0ms, hold 141 ms, release 412 ms. Range 30db. Filter frequency set to its resonance frequency to where it’s listening to just itself and won’t open if someone hits the snare, kick drum, or cymbals. I hate cymbal bleed in Toms, so the Gate settings are important for me. Compressor attack 15ms (think I need it slower to not squash the attack), hold 10ms, release 108ms. I’m not completely confident with compressor settings. All my gear is set to normal/live settings. I dislike club or music mode. It over exagythe lows and cause things to limit quicker
@ryandavis317
@ryandavis317 14 сағат бұрын
@ thanks!
@dallasslim1838
@dallasslim1838 Күн бұрын
They chose the right sound guy for this gig damn that’s looks busy!
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 Күн бұрын
It took a lot of “Know How” for this gig. Many other “Sound Men” was in the place
@alexanderv.753
@alexanderv.753 5 күн бұрын
Did you won this clipping? How?
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 4 күн бұрын
@@alexanderv.753 Hey I have a video titled “NYE Live Sound Gig” on my channel. It explains how to get away from the clipping issue
@jonahsmith2262
@jonahsmith2262 5 күн бұрын
You should get them patented
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 5 күн бұрын
@@jonahsmith2262 it’s probably too late for that lol. I gave all the build plans away
@THEREALDJREDD
@THEREALDJREDD 6 күн бұрын
I actually like both of them.
@THEREALDJREDD
@THEREALDJREDD 6 күн бұрын
The more I watch your videos the more I’m leaning towards the CDL. A+ on the pole mount. Just spray it black.
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 6 күн бұрын
I’m happy with them. Especially with the new mounts. I don’t have to bring 4 stands, 2 mounts, 2 truss, and 2 hoists. Now just 2 stands & mounts
@goodtimesradio-sz5hb
@goodtimesradio-sz5hb 8 күн бұрын
I like the van!! Something I’ve been thinking about
@goodtimesradio-sz5hb
@goodtimesradio-sz5hb 8 күн бұрын
Dig your set up and approach!! Very clean. Thank you for taking the time to produce the video
@James.KingHTX
@James.KingHTX 8 күн бұрын
Great job man! Just found your channel and subscribed! Looks like you have been doing this for awhile and have it figured out!
@peterchaleumchai8922
@peterchaleumchai8922 19 күн бұрын
I'm kinda have the concerns about the CDL12P due to it clipping I mean they sound great
@elijah5103
@elijah5103 24 күн бұрын
What type of speaker stand are you using
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 24 күн бұрын
@@elijah5103 pro X light stands actually
@elijah5103
@elijah5103 20 күн бұрын
Thanks
@billdethrow2511
@billdethrow2511 Ай бұрын
Question? the CDL12s on the Prox L Brackets? Could you do 3 boxes per Bracket? I love my CDLS but i need more height and coverage without getting Genies out. Thanks!
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 Ай бұрын
@@billdethrow2511 These brackets I had made locally. They’re much bigger than the ProX version. Only can fit two
@LG1685h
@LG1685h 2 ай бұрын
So these are not the hybrid line arrays? Those are 1000 dollars more, do you think they are worth it?
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 2 ай бұрын
@@LG1685h these are constant curvature arrays. Yea they’re worth it for me.
@PerfektSoundLighting
@PerfektSoundLighting 2 ай бұрын
Having a hard surface behind the subs will negate the cardiod effect.
@DustinRadtke
@DustinRadtke 2 ай бұрын
Do you worry that the CDLs will tip being so high with only the one sub holding it down?
@darrinlavigne1601
@darrinlavigne1601 3 ай бұрын
How much did you pay for all the headphones
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 3 ай бұрын
@@darrinlavigne1601 the college did. But this company typically charge $6 each headphone
@sound4uaudiovideorecording927
@sound4uaudiovideorecording927 2 ай бұрын
That is such an interesting gig. No noise. That’s truly bazaar. What a great idea though.
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 2 ай бұрын
@@sound4uaudiovideorecording927 it’s a pretty popular type of event. Every major city & cruise ships feature them
@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent
@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent 3 ай бұрын
Inspiring brother! You having fun out there in it’s sounding great, proud night im sure. Question, how did them 4 15s do with the bass heavy tracks? Hip hop etc
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 3 ай бұрын
@@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent in this room, the bass is already prominent. So they’ve had no issue. I tend to use my 15s for live sound and my 18s for DJ gigs. I trust and have used the 15s in a club setting plenty of times though
@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent
@Tim_ArtistName_Tallent 3 ай бұрын
@@lamarcobbs1 oh ok cool that’s really good to know. I have two Yamaha dxs15mkii that sound great and even better coupled, and I been wondering how 4 total would do because they’re so easy to transport. Wondering if that would give me the power and flexibility to handle any small-medium show
@gregoryfoster5995
@gregoryfoster5995 3 ай бұрын
You need to go work for a bigger production company to learn how to Do some of the things you were trying to accomplish.
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 3 ай бұрын
@@gregoryfoster5995 For sure I do! I’m just always booked for gigs that’s near me. And then some are on the “competition” way of thinking. I do try though
@gregoryfoster5995
@gregoryfoster5995 3 ай бұрын
@@lamarcobbs1 for sure but you have to find a big one in your area. Are you in Arkansas? Also, when are you gonna get the right fly frames for the speakers man?
@sound4uaudiovideorecording927
@sound4uaudiovideorecording927 4 ай бұрын
The very top of your top should be pointed directly at the last row of chairs (before the delays take over). Then the delay speakers should be pointed to the back wall at head height. That’s what I would do… your mileage may vary.
@sound4uaudiovideorecording927
@sound4uaudiovideorecording927 4 ай бұрын
I always do the delay speakers on a single matrix. Mono out there. They are about 89 feet out in the audience.
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 3 ай бұрын
@@sound4uaudiovideorecording927 see I’ve thought about that. And what about center fills? Do you go mono or stereo
@THEREALDJREDD
@THEREALDJREDD 4 ай бұрын
Great video. I see you got some fabrication done for the 4 CDL for the FOH. backlines may vary. The last quote I did was for $800
@ryandavis317
@ryandavis317 4 ай бұрын
Also what stage box your using? In regards to back line it all depends on quality(brand) of gear…. Better gear more money $$$ but I charge any where from 500-600 for backline: drums w\cymbals, bass, keys
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 4 ай бұрын
@@ryandavis317 my stage box is the Midas DL16. It sounds much better than the Behringer SD16
@ryandavis317
@ryandavis317 4 ай бұрын
Yessiiirrrrr it’s a game changer!
@ryandavis317
@ryandavis317 4 ай бұрын
Do your speakers still clip even with using the RTA mic? Also can you show us your settings for the cdl 12p on the boxes and master fader?
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 4 ай бұрын
@@ryandavis317 like with any other speaker set up, using an RTA mic to “EQ a Room” is only to get a flat frequency response from said speaker set up. Room EQ is just shaping the overall sound to try and get your highs, mids, and lows to be equal and flat across the entire spectrum. Every room would be different Clipping is determined by how much signal is being sent to the speakers while limiting is the amps max output. So yes clipping and limiting will still happen as it would with any speaker set up. The RTA Mic is just gonna show you what frequencies are HOT and what frequencies are low in the room you’re in. Just a tool to have consistent sound. In this gig I Ran each CDL AT +5db and the signal being sent from my board was at -10db. That goes for the delay speakers as well
@ryandavis317
@ryandavis317 4 ай бұрын
@@lamarcobbs1 the mix was smacking!!! I was just seeing if you figured out that CDL issue at this point I love the speaker so I just deal with it lol.
@sound4uaudiovideorecording927
@sound4uaudiovideorecording927 4 ай бұрын
I’ve found that my CDL when ran at +6 on each of the four I have for the L R mains, they don’t clip anymore. My matrix sends now never go above -10.
@ryandavis317
@ryandavis317 4 ай бұрын
@@sound4uaudiovideorecording927 so you use a matrix 🤔? Can you show a sample video? Where is the master fader at 0db?
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 3 ай бұрын
@@sound4uaudiovideorecording927 spot on sir! I run mine at +5. The bottom speaker in my array(s) vary from +3 to +5. Depending on how close to the crowd the bottom speaker is
@racesla
@racesla 4 ай бұрын
Those up lights look really nice and the monogram is a nice touch.
@racesla
@racesla 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the in depth solution for the input clipping. Question using the more downward pointing mounting hole on the CDL with a single stand, will that give you enough downward angle for good coverage with one or two speakers? Or do you need to buy the rigging hardware? Thanks
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 4 ай бұрын
@@racesla Hey. Yes, the pole mount option is definitely enough down angle. I prefer to fly them so that I won’t have 15 degrees aiming towards the ceiling. The pole mount option is great for an auditorium or gymnasium where the seats are set up “riser style.” But for most flat seating venues, I like to focus all that high end energy directly to the people. It’s about getting less reverberation for me
@chriswolf622
@chriswolf622 4 ай бұрын
Btw take care dude with your beautiful children 😊
@stevemail5239
@stevemail5239 4 ай бұрын
From watching this video I believe that these top speakers are sensitive to input signal.. my suggestion would be is to lower the input signal on the speaker itself. Remember that the gain is not a volume it’s to control the input signal.. Set your mixing board to max with out redlining and lower the gain on the tops. Start at -6db and go down until you get the desired signal without clip, and then play with the sub signal without going over infinite, which is 0db. So you don’t get distortion.. that should give you headroom without clip. Just a suggestion..
@djflavordaone
@djflavordaone 4 ай бұрын
Very Nice Setup I would love to do this in Memphis
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 4 ай бұрын
@@djflavordaone A lot of the singers I use come from Memphis. I love it there
@MartinScheuerJr
@MartinScheuerJr 4 ай бұрын
lol get those in the air man! I know you said it but this is hilarious lol
@newmeutube1
@newmeutube1 5 ай бұрын
Why the drum not running through your system?
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 5 ай бұрын
Just the cymbals and snare for the most part. They were very loud already
@juancarlosteranjulcamoro2
@juancarlosteranjulcamoro2 5 ай бұрын
Friend, how do you do with the limiters because they quickly reach the limit?
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 5 ай бұрын
Set the gain to +5db in the speakers and run your Mixer at -10db
@thebeatfreakz4278
@thebeatfreakz4278 5 ай бұрын
Your son is Awsome! Hope hes into music!
@michaelvillanueva6862
@michaelvillanueva6862 6 ай бұрын
Let me know if you need any help, I have a ADJ link as well. It's okay.
@jokerswildmusic4882
@jokerswildmusic4882 6 ай бұрын
Looks like your subs were constantly clipping, I assume that’s what the lights flashing on the front mean. Next time, try using 2 boxes per-side. No reason to reinforce sound waves to the ground.
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 6 ай бұрын
The front LED is just a warning. Gotta go off the LED Screen on the back. I’ve been taught flashing is ok. But when it holds or that LED screen on the back says LIMIT in bold, that’s when you back off
@soentertainmentdjs2316
@soentertainmentdjs2316 6 ай бұрын
Where you located?
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 6 ай бұрын
Jonesboro Arkansas
@tbmproductionsdj1
@tbmproductionsdj1 6 ай бұрын
With an odd number of subs, you get negative dB on bass. Two 18 subs would have been more than enough. Good gig. The kids looked as if they were having fun. We talk about gear on the DJ Round Table Show. Come check out an episode.
@madmaestro3002
@madmaestro3002 6 ай бұрын
Did you set up the stage and if you did what are you using to hold your shade covers?
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 6 ай бұрын
Yes I did. In each corner, there’s an L angle metal welded to the stage. I bolt 10 feet square tube poles to those. At the top of the poles are eye bolts. Just hook the shade panels to those with hooks or shackles
@MrYamahaman2010
@MrYamahaman2010 6 ай бұрын
I agree to disagree with this video. The rigging system that he designed works well on a cheap budget. I know welders who are professional welders who are certified and can get the job done and make a rigging system just as good if not better than the price that Presonus offers for the CDL rigging bar. $599 is a chunk of money and you can buy the same grade steel and hardware and still make this rigging system cheaper that $599. I think what this guy has done is the safest system I’ve seen on a budget. I’ve done sound for years and had different systems set up and I can knock this guy for trying.
@marcougarte2030
@marcougarte2030 6 ай бұрын
How many db do you work with the first cdl 12 y how the second, sorry for my english😅
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 6 ай бұрын
+5db on all 4 CDL speakers for this gig.
@rodneywalker252
@rodneywalker252 6 ай бұрын
Can you do a video this on your lights?
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 6 ай бұрын
@@rodneywalker252 sure thing
@djerniet350
@djerniet350 6 ай бұрын
Likes looked good to me. keep em dancing
@djnvision
@djnvision 6 ай бұрын
SOLID PROM! Good job
@notsure984
@notsure984 6 ай бұрын
Yeah you got that Numark. I think those are the best. I'm gonna save up for one.
@TheRickdoggie
@TheRickdoggie 7 ай бұрын
The CDL12P is such a clear sounding box. Not harsh at all. You can hear that clarity with your videos.
@JanTaylorEllis
@JanTaylorEllis 7 ай бұрын
Sang Lillian!!
@Eric-xu1mz
@Eric-xu1mz 3 ай бұрын
I believe this particular song was first introduced to Lillian Lilly then it was given to Marva McKinley, what if sister Marva and sister Lillian Lilly get a hold of this song on lead at the same time talking about 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@TheRickdoggie
@TheRickdoggie 7 ай бұрын
Crystal clear sound. The coverage pattern on the CDL's is killer. And that girl can SAAAANG!!!
@deewizzard808
@deewizzard808 7 ай бұрын
great production fam
@ajjjps
@ajjjps 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the content.
@ericgustin3386
@ericgustin3386 8 ай бұрын
Hiss isnt from the speaker. Thays in your chain somwhere.
@lamarcobbs1
@lamarcobbs1 8 ай бұрын
It’s definitely the speakers
@ericgustin3386
@ericgustin3386 8 ай бұрын
Are you running a digital crossover? If not you ha e to get one. Relying on the subs built in hipass/crossover is a nono. Get yourself a dbx driverack pa2 for a few hundred bucks. It seperates all the low mids and highs for you and can do a tonof other stuff, like ring out the speakers to the room and cancel feedback etc. Good video either way!
@nscaledelights
@nscaledelights 8 ай бұрын
Im here because of the Sound Couple too lol.