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Now that’s a video game even I would play!

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THis was awesome! I really enjoy hearing both your inputs about other films and actors as well as the movie you’re discussing. I agree with you guys about Tom Cruise being a great villain. I’m not a big fan of remakes, as you know, I turned off that Rob Zombie Halloween after about 10 minutes. I did, however, really enjoy the remake of Psycho. Go figure. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Some trivia -Boris Karloff was the great nephew of Anna Leonowens - the real person of The King and I fame

Imo, Humbert Allen Astredo was the best actor on the show. He portrayed Nicholas with depth, humor and energy. Forget Barnabas or Quentin.

Love them both dearly! Great show!

Thank you for having me on Jule! Hopefully my work schedule will be a little less crazy soon so i can join your discussions more often.

I don't understand your title? "got over despite a lack of build"?

Cover any more David Lynch, let me know! Barry and I can talk about David's work all night! Eraserhead would be a good one!

I own all of these in the original printings, most of which I picked up at flea markets and yard sales for less than a quarter each. They are fun, quick reads written in the style of gothic romance novels which were popular at the time they were published. They don't follow the storylines of the show or even much of the show's characterizations, though. Think of them more as alternate timelines/parallel universes.

Jule, these books are good and a lot of FUN! I'd LOVE for you to start reading them so you can do some shows on them.

How did I miss this review?!!! Man, this is one of my FAVORITE horror movies of all time and my favorite Vincent Price film. I would love to talk these with you sometime! When I first watched this on VHS when I was 11, I thought it was great. Now that I’m older, there are some terrifying things and images that flew over my head then. When we see the paintings of the demons and ghouls surrounding the slab where Francis was tied down and Nicholas was giving his speech describing Hell and that they were the demons and ghouls surrounding him and waiting to drag him down to Hell after he was tortured to death…that sends shivers and chills down me. This was such a well-done movie with a GREAT twist!

Hey Jule, Maybe it serendipity, but July 31 is the 37th anniversary of the film's premier. 😊

Man, I love this movie. The Superman Donnerverse is my favorite set of movies. I’ve gone back to the Lester cut once since this came out, and I can’t go back. It’s darker and more threatening, and the scene of Lois finding out Clark’s identity was sooooooo much better. It was so Lois Lane to do that and fake him out. I love this movie and this cut so much. We need the Dan Curtis cut of NODS next!

Awesome video. It’s always so much fun listening to you guys talk about these westerns. I learn a lot from the two of you.

"I and Bobby Lugosi top 5 favorite DS Episodes" What bizarre grammar.

Shouldn't the title be Me and Bobby...?

Universe Mode Past Present Future

01 vs 01 02 vs 02 03 vs 03 04 vs 04 Past Present Future

Elbow Pads|Knee Pads|Taped Wrists|MMA Style Gloves Past Present Future

Hey there, Jule! Imagine my surprise when I saw your latest podcast, and it was about the comments I posted on your earlier podcast on DS:Resurrection and the difficulties it’s had in getting made. I guess I wasn’t expecting a response so soon! However, as I watched it, it quickly became clear to me that you apparently misconstrued some of the things in those comments, which I accept I may well be to blame for. I’d like to see if I can’t clear up some of those “misconstruings”, though (hopefully without goofing things up even more!).

First, though, going over my comments, I noticed that I failed to finish my thought re: the effects of the Burton/Depp movie on the overall franchise. I think we’re both in agreement that it did do damage to it to a certain degree in some areas. As to how long this is likely to last, that’s hard to say. Apparently even after 12 years, it still casts a shadow (no pun intended) over the franchise. Will it still be doing so a generation after the release of the movie? I seriously doubt it - I think the movie will have been forgotten about by any studio types by then (though by that time, things probably would have to start over at square one). But with regards to the present and/or the near future, I think that, as you suggested, some creative alternatives might need to be explored, like approaching MPI, or some other company a little less “risk-averse” than the “big guys”. Anyway, I think what happened is two separate subjects I brought up somehow got conflated (and again, I fully accept this may be my fault). Yes, they both involve David Chase, The Sopranos, and DS:Resurrection, but in very different ways. The first mistake I think I may have made was by using mob movie tropes to refer to the problems the Burton/Depp movie has caused the franchise. Admittedly I did that in part to let you know a bit more about me (i.e. that I’m also a mob movie/TV show fan, which I admit is probably a relative rarity among SF/Fantasy/Horror-Suspense fans), and also to possibly pave the way for what I hoped might be a discussion (at an appropriate time, of course) about the similarities I believe exist, whether deliberate or coincidental (or a combination of the two), between DS and The Sopranos. I feel important to point out here that the similarities I see are all “beneath the surface”, mostly having to do with the tone of the two shows, as well as existential (as opposed to “surface level”) similarities between some of the main characters, some of the secondary characters, and their interpersonal relationships. However, as you’ve mentioned that you’ve never seen The Sopranos, that obviously negates any reason for me to attempt a conversation on that subject here (FWIW, it’s possible that Chase might have been influenced by DS in some way; he would’ve been attending Wake Forest and UCLA Film School during the series’ original run). So I put the idea back in my mental filing cabinet, shrug my shoulders, and move on. The other, more pertinent subject, had to do Chase’s claim that there is a decline of so-called “prestige dramas” (of which The Sopranos is surely considered a leading example) happening, and speculating if perhaps some of the problems Mark Perry is having with getting DS:Resurrection made might have something to do with that, assuming he’s chosen to go in that direction with the series. To this end, I should have posted a link to one of the interviews he gave at the time of The Sopranos 25th anniversary celebrations earlier this year. FWIW, I’ll correct that error here. www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/jan/14/the-sopranos-creator-david-chase-quality-tv-era-over Finally, I agree with you that DS and The Sopranos are indeed both timeless. There’s very little that connects either one to a specific time in history (some of the music in the Blue Whale, some of the clothes, and the occasional car that shows up in the series for DS; Motorola and Nokia cell phones, Blackberries, and a few basically throwaway references to 9/11 and the Enron scandal on The Sopranos). But I think beyond that, Dan Curtis and David Chase, though I’m sure neither intended to do so, created a couple of series that were true TV “game changers”. Dark Shadows expanded the boundaries of what a daytime serial could be capable of, and its effects have continued to be felt until the present day in the remaining soaps still on the air. The Sopranos proved that there was an appetite, a “market” if you will, for a high quality, intelligently written and well acted TV series, one that also wasn’t afraid to “stretch the boundaries” of what TV could do. Anyway, I guess that’s it. I notice you did a podcast on the Billy Wilder/James Cagney film 1-2-3, which I think is a greatly underrated film (I laugh every time I watch the scene where Red Buttons imitates Cagney - to Cagney himself!), so I think I’ll check that out this weekend. Take care and have a great weekend. Ciao!

This was great and a little scary. Urban legends have always really spooked me. We don’t have too many in these parts but they have a ton in Mexico and my cousins who lived there used to always scare me with the stories.

I love this idea too!!

This is another installment of your podcast that intrigued me, Jule, if for no other reason than that most DS fans treat the 2004 pilot like the proverbial "Red Headed Stepchild". Tbh, I have to confess that I have a soft spot in my heart for such "orphans", whether it's the 2004 DS pilot, the 1954 Climax! presentation of the first James Bond story, Casino Royale, or even the Saturday Superstar Movie presentation of Lost in Space. I'll admit, if I were in my teens, twenties, or even early thirties (I'm sixty three now), I probably would've been horrified at how different from the established "canon" it seems, but fortunately I've actually gotten *more* open minded about things as I've gotten older, not less. While I understand that it's not complete in some respects, and there are some gaffes (like the apparent time gaffe near the end when David goes missing in the middle of the afternoon, and Victoria goes to the Old House to look for him), I still find the difference between it, the original series, and the 1991 revival to be interesting and, for the most part, enjoyable. As to the actors, Marley Shelton makes a fine choice for Victoria, as is Alec Newman for Barnabas (at least he's a bit closer in age to what one might expect Barnabas to be than Jonathan Frid or Ben Cross were). Other than Blair Brown, I'm not familiar with the other actors in the pilot, but I don't have any real problems with any of them, or how their characters are scripted. I find certain choices interesting, like making Willie Loomis a former BMOC/jock gone to seed instead of a violent thug/drifter as he was initially in the original series, or blood dripping accidentally onto the desiccated corpse of Barnabas bringing him back to life (unlife?). The one thing that intrigues me the most is the pilot's conception of Angelique -- it leaves me wanting to know *a lot* more about her, her history with Barnabas, what he did to cause her to "vamp" him, and why some sort of enchanted dagger was necessary to keep her "at rest" for eternity (which itself I find an intriguing plot device), not to mention that alluring but not terribly historical dress and jewelry she's wearing (I suspect most of those would've been dealt with in short order if it had gotten green lighted). I agree that the ending is frustrating, though it does seem to be the way the pilot was intended to end (I have a copy of the script on my computer), but that's really the only artistic flaw of any significance I can find. It really is a shame that the WB did not pursue the production further (especially since, as you point out, we would have been spared the Burton/Depp debacle had it gone to series), as I actually do like most of the differences between it and the original or the 1991 revival.

Very interesting take. One thing that I really hope they do with this character is that they should make him appear to be very very frightened of Michael. One of the things that made Halloween so scary for me as a kid was that the “hero” of Haddonfield, was Loomis and you could see how scared he was. He wasn’t this cocky doctor who thought he knew everything. That’s just my opinion. 🙂

Great discussion. Good to see Butch back. 👍🏼

Hey, Jule! I found out about your podcast via your appearances on Penny Dreadful's "Terror at Collinwood" podcast, and so have been checking it out. I found this installment particularly of interest, and would like to proffer a few thoughts, if I may. First off, I totally agree with you that probably the "800 lb. gorilla in the room" with regard to DS: Resurrection becoming an actual series we can watch one day on one or another channel or streaming service is "THAT MOVIE" (i.e. the Burton Depp Dark Shadows version, or as I prefer to call it, "PERversion"). I'm a big "mob movie and TV show fan" (I'm as big a fan of The Sopranos as I am DS, and in fact see many "below the surface" similarities between the two, though that's "a story for perhaps another time", as they say), and as they say in them, "You're only as good as your last envelope". Carrying that analogy a bit further, the envelope marked "DS 2012 movie" was more than a little "light". Enough so as to cause the franchise to get "whacked"? No, I don't think so; but I do think it's pretty hard to deny it definitely "took a beating" because of it. But there's another reason I think *maybe* it might be difficult for DS:Resurrection to get made, and coincidentally it comes from an observation recently made by the creator of The Sopranos, that other game-changing figure in television with the initials "DC", David Chase. At the beginning of the year, as The Sopranos celebrated its 25th anniversary, David Chase commented in interviews that perhaps those celebrations should actually be looked upon as funerals for the recent "Golden Age of TV" The Sopranos sparked, i.e. the period of history that gave us writers like Terry Winter, Matt Weiner, and Tyler Sheridan, and shows like The Shield, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, True Blood, Boardwalk Empire, Sons of Anarchy, Yellowstone, and Succession. He said he had noticed that recently networks, pay services, and streamers alike had started to go back to more formulaic programs, with streamers starting to include commercials now, and that execs at FX had shot down a recent proposed series he'd brought to them as requiring audiences to pay too much attention, and that he needed to "dumb it down" if he wanted to sell it. In short, he basically proclaimed the era of "quality television" was at an end. Now, while as both a fan and an aspiring screenwriter myself, I revere Chase both for his know-how and talent, I also notice he does usually fall a bit on the pessimistic side of things when giving opinions. There are still intelligent TV shows out there, ones that exist probably at least in part because of the groundwork he laid with The Sopranos. Still, I can't completely dismiss his observations, either. So what does this have to do with DS:Resurrection? I guess mainly it has to do with whatever approach Mark Perry is planning on taking with it. Obviously, as you would expect with such a project at this point in time, he's playing it fairly close to the vest, and what he has revealed hasn't really indicated whether he'll go the same route as the series' I mentioned above, or a less -- I don't know, would "thoughtful" be the right word here? -- more mainstream approach. If the former (and if Chase's observations are correct), I could see how it might add to the difficulties of getting the series sold and made. I personally hope he does go for that more "thoughtful" (and thought provoking) approach, and I believe that there must be out there somewhere some producer and/or outlet that believes such a series can satisfy both an audience and a company's shareholders. I'd be very curious to know what your thoughts on this are, Jule? Do you see a "quality approach" as a potential stumbling block (assuming that's how Mark Perry has chosen to go with it so far), or do you think it's a non-factor?

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Jule, I love the camera work, too! And thanks for giving Art Wallace some "love". Totally agree.

Great job, Jule! Well done! So much fun!

Great job, guys! Loved "Guest Host"!

How's it going with everyone love everyone and take care and be safe❤❤❤❤

Brilliant!

Wow!!😂😂

❤❤❤❤hi!!

Great discussion. Lovely that you guys reviewed this after Donald Sutherland’s passing.

They should continue where the 1991 Revival left off. That was fantastic, unlike that abomination of Tim Burton’s movie.

This was awesome! Great conversation. You guys covered a lot. 👏🏽

This is a good movie. I think it gets made fun of because Star Wars had such impressive special effects and this looks very different as all of you pointed out. I love Queen and Kenny Loggins! Tied for first in my book.

Simon MacCorkindale! What a great call back by Patrick. He would have been a good choice after Roger Moore. I loved Dalton and wished he would have made more Bond movies! Addison Powell and Keith Prentice, there wouldn't be a stage left to stand on😅. If you ever want to talk Jaws 3 let me know. It's so bad that it's good.😂

Further comment: Angelique was a lady's maid so would have been exempt from the really hard work such as drawing water for Mademoiselle Josette's bath or starting the fire in the fireplace in Josette's room. The narrative of what we see onscreen is that Angelique only begins to awaken to her own powers gradually, but of course, that gets retconned years later with the whole Miranda Duval thing. And I'll stop bugging you now.

Also, I think Patrick's cat is the real star of this show. And further, when Patrick pulls out the popcorn bowl--dramatic masterstroke.

My impression always has been that Barnabas and Angelique's "nights in Martinique" in which events occurred that she later paraphrased as "not all promises are made with words" had been just a few months prior to the du Pres family's arduous journey to Maine. I forget how Lara Parker herself describes these events in her novel, but I'd be surprised if she portrayed it substantially differently from that. So, let's say Summer 1794 at the earliest--may have been Spring of 1795 if the courtship was orchestrated by Joshua as a formalization of his business partnership with Andre. As for Angelique, the Countess said she had known her as a rather simple child. My presumption, given that Angelique is white-skinned and fluent in upper-class French, is that Angelique and her mother were in service to the du Pres family, most likely on their estate in France, and that they all fled France with the rest of the family when the "unfortunate events" of 1789 occurred.

OMG, I love that character.. thanks for the memories...

It was very common here in the South for cousins to marry. My best friend's parents were cousins.

Great episode!

Haven’t watched this movie in so long but I was just thinking about it the other day, actually. This was a fun podcast to watch!

11:08 I always took it as Molly thinking that he was joking about it explaining why she reacted that way. Her thinking he wasn’t being serious