Nee, ik ben maar 1 dag meegeweest, groot, petje en spijkerjasje

Bedankt maar geen idee wie je bent

Or attacked!!

idd de moeite waard

Dankje , een slechtvalk is bijna net zo groot als een buizerd maar daardoor ook minder wendbaar en daarom makkelijker aan te vallen als andersom.

redjered dankjewel voor je toelichting.

Vrouwtje slechtvalk is bijna zo groot als een buizerd en dus veel groter dan de torenvalk, mannetje is iets kleiner maar nog steeds groter dan de torenvalk

Not domesticated, they are wild but ringed. This is a juvenile female not yet very skilled and fattened by it's parents and the nest is nearly to high to reach with her high body weight. This is the nesting box she is brought up in and somehow the kestrel tried to take over the territory trying to chase her away.

aren't fake attacks or attacks without contact no attacks at all?

They're more like "attempts".

@@TheGreatOne16439 - I don't think these are attempted attacks. They are just harassing feints.

Blijkbaar heb ik er helemaal geen verstand van, maar wie weet heft hij het wel gedaan, we hadden hem pas laat in de gaten toen hij al op z'n retour was. Bedankt

Het was wel zeker een mooi ding. Gezien de intensiteit van de buien toen kon rotatie ook wel plaatsvinden, ik denk alleen niet dat het ooit de grond heeft kunnen raken. Ik heb er ook geen melding van gezien! Desalniettemin zeker mooie beelden!

Je hebt gelijk, mijn vrouw zegt dat hij het wateroppervlak raakte, ik begon pas te filmen toen hij al op zn retour was, had hem later door

Dan is het een waterhoos, geen tornado ;)

Brian Verhoeven oke en jij bent echt BY FAR de meest irritante makker hier ;)))

Very logical. the kestrel knows that, although the peregrine is less flexible, coming to close is dangerous because he can flip 180 degrees and he would be to fast to avoid the talons pointed to him. In all bird of prey fights the attack is mostly made to their backs or wings and are defended by flipping to point claws to the attacker. See my other confrontations of peregrine attacking buzzard , kestrel attacking buzzard and buzzard attacking white-tailed Eagle. the last one defends also by hitting his attacker by hitting them with their huge wings.

....and when zooming out to much, it leaves only two dots to look at, they take a great distance to make speed and are hard to keep in view constantly together with the peregrine. Filming fighting birds of prey in the air is making constant choices, because the zoom in and zoom out speed is limited, and because at the point of the impact you want to be zoomed in. So thinking forward is very necessary.

Well obviously you wouldn't zoom out all the way, lol. Just enough to get shots of the kestrel as he's coming in on the falcon. You have a few good shots of the two together and you still see plenty of detail, but then the film zooms back in on the falcon. Perhaps your goal was more to shoot movement than behavior, which if that's the case then that's fine, I simply wish that I had gotten to see more of how the kestrel moves in on the falcon.

it is also hard to predict what they are doing, every time I have this problem. last week with a sparrowhawk and a crow, very unpredictable, although I have plenty of experience. You should try it yourself sometimes. ;) as soon as the attacked bird turns his head the attacker slows down or choses another way. hard to see what the two are seeing or thinking.

I suppose I could, although my shitty ass phone doesn't capture detail unless I'm standing right next to the object, but hey I'll shoot you a whistle when I shoot some pixel blobs for you to see

Young female peregrines are not fast enough and to clumsy to handle a kestrel.

+redjered aren't male peregrines faster and more agile than females?

the kestrel is more flexible in the air, the airspeed of the peregrine is faster but needs to build up speed and thus clumsy in short distance confrontations. But the female here just left the nest and is clumsy from inexperience.

females are indeed heavier and less flexible in the air than males. I've seen female fledgers so stuffed and not yet strong enough, they even couldn't reach their nest anymore because it was to high for them, though it was no problem for her smaller brother.

redjered prost

This is my second channel. I have much more vids with peregrines and other birds and naturevids on my first channel redjered with all small letters. Thnx for enjoying

inmiddels gelukkig verleden tijd, die toepasselijkheid dankje :)

thnx :)

Dat filmen en snelle reeks foto's maken doe ik al vanaf 2009, dus dan leer je op een gegeven moment wel voorspellen wanneer ze weg gaan vliegen aan het onrustige gedrag. Verder maakte deze jonge wel heel speelse onvoorspelbare bewegingen, waardoor ik hem uit beeld verloor. Verder is filmen met de oogkijker en veel oefenen verplicht, wil dit lukken.