Anet: "We don't want botters" Also Anet: "Here are 6 specs that can bot without macros/scripts, just move AutoAttack to another skill and start farming, enjoy!"

I have been playing Guild Wars 2 since the first expansion, and honestly, I am happy to use a bot in the game. Once the Living World episodes and the main DLCs are completed, there is nothing left but intense grinding with the goal of obtaining legendary armor and/or the legendary weapons that come with it. These items are extremely time-consuming or require a lot of gold. Unfortunately, the auction house is completely monopolized by a base of players or guilds, making it extremely difficult and time-consuming for an average player to generate a lot of gold. Personally, I don't want to spend 3 months grinding and farming just to get an item for comfort and aesthetics. It's too much time to invest, so for me, botting has been my solution to make my progression more enjoyable.

ill never blame the creator, only the user.

The dont just use 1 account.. they use MANY accounts with bots !... YES it DOES raise prices INGAME because those with Gold buy and resell for outrageous prices. ALSO its UNFAIR for those who play fair and pay for items with REAL MONEY !!... This is why my family and friends stop playing this game... To hell with cheaters online !...

Im so tired of these bots crap ... This is why I quit playing the damn game !!....

In my personal experience, there's a point where gold has absolutely 0 meaning to progression of an account. I would definitely agree that the impact is negligible at best.

I always report bots when I see them. That shit disgusts me.

For many years. I tested flight, no clip, jumping, teleportation. It was fun not needing mounts and getting through jump puzzles for years but it isn’t good since raid bosses reset when you are not within range or visible line of sight. It was fun as thief though for pvp and wvw Competitive you have to be careful because crippling and slow effects will make your body distort, rag doll and glitch visibly obvious if using speed or teleportation. Anet only bans you if you email or receive a fully built legendary 3 months per legendary. You are only allowed to receive the components to build it. It was purely for educational and entertainment purposes and I don’t resort to such methods other than testing and research

I think that using bots is bad for the game but unfortunately the inventory management bot made me pause for a second, I'll never use it because I think there is a very genuine chance that you could get your account banned for using it. But I think it goes to show just how poor the inventory system is in Guild Wars 2 that this bot feels neccesary for some players, like the gold farm bots are because people don't want to play the game, but I can understand someone not wanting to deal with the inventory system, I hope GW2 fixes their inventory system soon. Even if it's a patch job like adding a mastery or even just allowing a "list on TP at lowest offer" and removing the TP cap accounts over 1 year old.

"It's not cheating in PvE because it's not against a person but the computer." Yeah, right. It's the same logic people have when cheating in exams.

I know of at least two pve-raid focused discords that have had to ban users for botting/macro-ing/cheating Temple of Febe LCM. Do you know anything about that? Information about it is hard to find and I feel strongly that their existence needs to be cracked down on by Anet.

Personally, I don't mind BOTs, because they are programs designed to maintain a sustainable economy and ArenaNet has managed to balance this very well by attracting the player to invest their gold in converting gems. It's perfect.

Great video, it was just a matter of time and i'm glad that your video is produced as objective as it is. The gatherbot that the reddit user took videos of is the same one that the developer you spoke to on discord voice is referencing whenever he says "nothing happens as long as you dont break the economy". It is also why MMOMinion shut down (in my opinion), this specific bot generated gold like no other. Ever since MMOminion is dead, the botting scene has died with it. While the new project has many talented developers and real passion, its missing the community of scriptwriters that MMOminion had. This is all to say that botting is a non-issue atm, nobody really wants to bother. It was good times.

Dunno man, 300 people using just this one bot/tool earning 200+ gold per day per account it is used on (it likely isn't limited to just one considering ppl using such things probably try to profit from them as much as they can) still means they at the very least swamp the economy with 60 000+ gold worth of mats every day. Add a few more accounts and a few more tools with similar user numbers and you know why 90% of the stuff on the tp is worth just 10 copper and has millions of sell entries. Really pathetic that Anet never even tried to combat these hax. edit: About the list of 700 accountnames you figured out to be 3rd party tool users: send them to Anet and let's see what they do with it. If nothing happens, publish that list and make it into a Wall of Shame, so we can at least call the people out ingame.

what i wanna know is what the ban rate is like for these tools.... in other words, how efficient is ANET at detecting these accounts/tools

I suspect that the problem stems from the fact that some developers from arena net create these mods on the side and that's why there is little pressure to fight them. I once experienced something similar in mortal kombat online where a few devs were selling items on the side or entire characters

In WvW, if you're following a cheating pugmander it's kinda funny. If you're fighting against one it's a nightmare. IMO it's rare enough that it just gives us something to gossip about.

I don't get those people. GW2 is a game, where you don't have a lot of farming and are pretty free to do what you want and still there are bots for everything. Why evewn bother to play at this point? Winning a hard fight or getting a rare item through a quest/event etc. is so nice. I have zero sympathy for those cheaters and that excuse 'I made it for my ill relative' is just bs, sorry. And that German guy, you interviewed: I'm pretty sure, Anet could held him responsible in our country, if he would found out. I do think, those people are selfish assholes, even if there aren't too many. There are also the people who uses bots to crowd a map with a lot of characters, which leads to event maps being full for the player, who actually want to play the game and those people are mainly afking and not really helping (and I just saw, you made a separate video about those afk farmers) I do like, that you are documenting this in a neutral manner here though, so that we can make up our own opinion. I agree, that those people are probably few compared to the player base (and GW2 has the nicest community I ever encountered), but it is important to talk about it.

i got told by guildies arena net bans rarely even breaking every rule. i did have some toxic behaviour on times with other toxic people so im sure the ban rate is low.

ohhhhhh based

Holy shit. Quick Maffs after listening to the custom client guy. Say 300 users, bot for about 4 hours a day, 5 days a week. Not goin 24/7 but getting a bit of grind in during some chores. Say they make something like 53 gold an hour doin whatever their doin. Mash that all together. 4 a day, 5 a week, for four weeks, 300 people doin this ; Thats 1,272,000 G a month getting forced into the game from the ether every month. And this is only one small fraction of the whole botting population using an example of only 300, and assuming just on account connected at a time. Like godd damnnn

Botting and cheating in games is amongst the lamest thing a person can do

i have friends got banned by trolling afk farmers by just boarding them into turtle and tp them away to kill them. he got banned by doing by ruining afk farmers day lol

I just dont understand how bots and tools that are that broken exist in this game... Its really sad the devs dont care about players or even try to, the game had so much potential allways has but i just dont get how they constantly drop the ball over and over... I realy wish more mmos would take a page and the only good page jagex has is osrs and its community involvment..

if they would stand true to their policies they would ban the afk farmers, but no, they sit there weeks after weeks at the same spots unbanned, unbothered. Its on soem maps even so much worse that you cant even do several archievements anymore...All Arena Net should do is to make Pets and Minions last only some some seconds until they have to be resummoned that would fix that. Yes that should apply for engi turrets too

cool vid ty

What about me who flips on the BLTP? I research things to flip while the game is running.

Isnt it super sketchy to login using one of these clients though? They could hack you easily no?

Why would they Ban people ? It's not in their interset to-do so. Keeps the Wales in the Game.

If ArenaNet would do something... the reputation it would received would be amazing.

I'd like to think I could play attentively enough while also watching videos.

ArenaNet don't really care if you're using any of these tools unless you don't advertise it. If they ban you, then banned you for advertising the tools, not because you're using them. Bots are not really a problem in GW2 since the important materials in creating a lot of gold are account-bound, meaning non-tradable. You have to do stuff yourself if you want to get stuffs. Anything you can bot farm will only make those items/materials more common which will reduce their value over time, and will only hurt the bot-farmer in the long run. So in a way, the GW2 economy is self-regulating, that's why the Devs don't really care much about it. Heck, they don't even care if the game story is good or not. lol. As for the PvP/WvW, the more you cheat, the less players will play the game mode, which you're only hurting yourself in the long run. They rather invest their time in creating skins, which the quality are getting better lately, IMO. Great video but this issue is not a major concern.

Came back 6 months after this vid. The afk farmers are gone in maps like lake doric, istan, and kourna. Unless there are map instances that are full with just only them lol.

If you make these kinda of exploits, you are a loser ruining good fun for the rest of us.

So now we know they are german :D

This is against the terms of service. You are allowed to make tools and addons for Guild Wars 2, but you are not allowed to sell it.

Well... Bots is one thing, but teleporting and stuff is completly anet's fault of having too much client-side agency in the game making stuff that should not be possible, possible.

This makes me want to set up a bot farm 🎉

Great video, thank you.

I saw a WoW content creator recently exposing bots, he is getting irl downstate threats so bad he is deleting his channel. Blizzard doesn't care. Maybe ANet cares more about the welfare of players and puts effort into actual bot detection, we shall see. Please stay safe too.

well you proved you're too good at journalism to get a job in the mainstream media :) good work

Says it's just for fun and charges a monthly. Yeah, cheaters suck. I dont see them often though. Seen a few fly hacks and the node teleports but it's rare. Spend most of my time in WvW. Nothing too crazy out there besides the occasional player attacking others from under the map. I think some hacking accusations come from misunderstanding the game mechanics. I know it's different but the afk necro farming is more obvious and rampant. Fun to mess with if you can kite an area boss to them. Funny watching them die. Sometimes you can get them in your turtle mount and take them for a joyride.

this video made me subscribe. Thank you.

This is the exact type of video I want to see for Lineage2 but a focus on private server files/owners a well

yea and what about pvp guys that one shot you 28k hp in 2 secs or less...

08:30 he german o.o

Who’s the guy in the interview

Very thorough. Shame they laid off all their GMs lmao.

It's wild how actual players will get suspended/banned for "botting" just because they've been farming for a long time or are using ingame features such as minions and turrets to automate some ingame tasks to play semi-afk while watching netflix or something, but meanwhile we've got people like this just literally warping around the map with virtually zero input whatsoever or just autoplaying PvP matches and ACTUALLY ruining the game.

i've seen egirls in some guilds that sell pics for ingame gold, so i'm not surprised to see these tools being used more and more haha honestly gg to this young german hustler, making a living wage off of that shid without being caught is a win. cheaters will eventually lead all these multiplayers games to their demise (well, gw2's already kinda dead), it's sad but hey maybe we'll get some kind of digital law enforcement in the future lol